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ellis among our guests. pastor robert jeffords of course. good nye night see you tomorrow. elizabeth: president trump's top attorneys led by rudy giuliani. laying out voter fraud allegations. it was fire i press conference you have to show the proof in court. time is running out. states certifying next week. deadline december 13th. with us jim trusty, sol wisenberg, joe concha, greg stuebe and brandon judd on today's top stories. we'll decision into what trump's lawyers are alleging today .
dealing with the chinese energy company, that communist china considered its quote, bridge to russia. for energy deals. working with vladmir putin. the senators say the new details deepened their existing concerns about quote, counterintelligence risk and much more. we've also got the growing backlash against the media and democrats, for trying to politicize and attack "operation warp speed." it is bringing effective vaccines to the market. the debate putting politics over your health. we have more on new york state governor andrew cuomo attacking a reporter for asking about school closures. the governor is saying you know what? you're wrong. but the announcement came out moments later that new york city schools were in fact closing due
to covid-19. now parents and taxpayers are not he hadfied. they're increasingly worried that the elected officials don't know what they're doing. anger mounting at california lawmakers for straight up breaking their own covid-19, the state's own covid-19 rules but now they're trying to defend as quote, crucial and essential that they needed to go on a plush junket to hawaii paid for by corporate lobbyists to figure out how to open their home state of california. that is a head-scratcher. we'll dig into that. on the border, this is a big issue. mexico forced the u.s. government to send backs to mexico a former defense secretary arrested in the on drug corruption charges for allegedly helping one of the most notorious and deadly mexican cartels. is this a tipping point in u.s.-mexico relations? thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right
now. ♪. elizabeth: joining me now federal prosecutor jim trusty. good to see you, jim. okay, jim, before we, let's do this. let's listen be good to see you. listen to rudy giuliani lay out the president's case about voter fraud. watch this. >> you're going to tell me that 60 people are lying? they just didn't tell me this. they swore under penalty of perjury. why did it happen 15,000 times people in pittsburgh walked in to vote and they had already voted according to the democrat election machine? did they forget? we have specific evidence of intimidation and changes of votes. that will all be in the lawsuit that comes out tomorrow. she is basically trained to cheat. she said that, i was instructed by my supervisor to adjust the mailing date of these absentee
ballot packages to be dated earlier than when they were actually sent in. then she was instructed, by my supervisor, not to ask for a drivers license or any photo i.d. you should had the time and energy to go look for them. that is your job. like it is my job to defend the president. elizabeth: okay. he is saying they have got evidence of all of this. it is going to come out tomorrow in a lawsuit. do you this this is going to be enough to overturn the result? certification happens by december 13th. electoral college moves on december 14th. they got to move and move fast if they have got the proof. what was your reaction to the press conference? >> well they do have a move fast. it's tight but look, everything is on a expedited track. what i'm seeing from the media in particular a lot of overreaction to this case as an amended complaint or this case
was denied. nothing has been decided on the merits at this point. talking about things like preliminary injunctions which are different procedural animals than a full-blown trial. what rudy was effective doing today, basically knocking down the notion there is no evidence because he kept pointing to hundreds of affidavits should raise an eyebrow where people will want to consider these things, to hear whether we had massive fraud. whether we win the day, it is too early to know. it will move quickly but they have to get to higher courts. they have get to the point where constitutional rulings are taking place. where maybe wisconsin is ruling on a state law has to do with soliciting absentee ballots. they have to get the things elevated quickly, essentially stop things in the tracks by december 12th or 13th. elizabeth: trump as current chee of staff, mark meadows, told reporters yesterday, the real question fundamentally continues to be are there enough votes out
there to overturn the election, dubious votes? they have to overturn the results in pennsylvania and two other states. that means-off turning tens of thousands of votes. so what is the proof they can do that? what is the proof there was a centralized plan by democrat-run cities to overturn the election? that is big thing to say. rudy giuliani said logical conclusion reached. incidents he took place in several states. do you see any proof of any of that? >> rudy's opening statement turned into a bit of a closing argument, right? he wanted to dip down in his old mafia fighting days talk about conspiracy law. it is a bridge too far. you don't actually need to go there. that might be an inference to draw at some point but really everyone of these fights is a fight in individual states, different laws, different legal theories at work. i thought there was a little bit of overshooting and trashing philly, saying some of the things he said. it might have felt good but
wasn't as focused as it could have been. that brings us to dominion, right? it could be a ridiculous conspiracy theory. if it is not, if sidney powell can be believed, get i don't know credibility and forensic analysis of software to demonstrate actual large-scale voter suppression, voter fraud, that would be huge. so i think that has got to be a big part of their emphasis right now, getting their hands on that stuff which is different when you're not in law enforcement. it is a hill trickier. elizabeth: is an affidavit by somebody who is watching the vote count saying, i saw that vote, i saw irregularities with that vote, is an affidavit enough to overturn that vote? >> well, not by itself but it will have to be one of these things where they can get the nose under the tent and figure out was there large-scale intentional misconduct. were there instructions being given to actually shade the way
you calculate votes? look, not any individual affidavit will do that with the possible exception of the whole dominion issue. that beg as different issue which is the early stages of this litigation most judges will not even get to the point of credibility but if they do, this happened in wayne county with one of the cases a credibility finding against the affiants, people brought out by giuliani and company is a really bad sign. we have one case like that so far where a judge with a preliminary injunction setting basically dismissed the credibility of the affiants in wayne county. that doesn't bode well, that is the kind of stuff immunized from appellate review. they don't want to second-guess findings of credibility. that is the only thing they have to watch out for is adverse credibility rulings. otherwise everything is in play. everything needs to play out. recognize there are different legal theories and different bases for getting into these different courts.
elizabeth: president trump got criticized personally calling the two republicans on michigan wayne county board of canvassers. they are moving to rescind their votes to certify, claiming they were bullied to side with democrats toker isfy it. they say they were called racists and reportedly threatened and doxxed on social media. that is going on. the wisconsin recount of 800,000 votes in two counties happening in wisconsin. required by law because president trump's team paid $3 million to do the recount. biden won the state by nearly 21,000 votes. you have all of that. got, they stripped out the main fraud claims in the pennsylvania suit. then they're saying voter fraud. you're right, there is a lot of moving parts, what are your thoughts on republican jim jordan and james comer saying to house judiciary you have to do a hearing and a probe of election integrity? not clear jerry nadler or carolyn maloney will go for it. your thoughts on that? >> here is the difficult part.
if you're trying to resolve this by the middle of december, all of 3 1/2 weeks from now you have to rely upon the litigants in civil court. law enforcement usually can't move that quickly to build a case, to persuade people they brought a righteous case. congress may have hearings. may have moments where they talk about this, but again it is not going to actually affect the outcome t might be helpful over the long run to address the frailties in our system or the corruption in our system. those are not things that will win the day for president trump. i think if you're looking at you know, resolution of the election, you've got to look at civil litigation, see if it gets up to the higher courts, including the u.s. supreme court and see how it sakes out. elizabeth: what if, you know, here's the other thing. there is a story out there that the president is basically doing this to delegitimatize the election for joe biden because he is looking to 2024. could the courts take any, any
statements along those lines into consideration whether or not to overturn the count? >> well you know usually extra judicial statements like people going on social media don't become, kind of embraced as a legal theory of the case or become all that damaging but, we have seen kind of different rules for trump where he has said things where even the supreme court said, what about his campaign promise? it is not necessarily helpful to make those types of comments but it really shouldn't merit, it shouldn't really decide the merits of cases when they get into courts because politics is politics. this is about factual determinations of election engineering, election fraud, based on what people saw and what software may or may not have done. it will stay fairly siloed off of that. elizabeth: wow, this will be a nail-biter over the next few weeks. jim trusty we'll have you back on to break it down. you've been terrific. thanks for coming on to help us out. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: former independent
counsel sol wisenberg with us on more revelations, brand new revelations in the hunter biden controversy. chuck grassley, ron johnson are getting more information from tony bobulinski, hunter biden's former business partner, millions of dollars he was getting from china while china was working with energy deals in russia. this has deepening concerns about counterintelligence risk and more. sol wisenberg is next. >> he got $50,000 a month from buriesma. he got 3 1/2 million dollars from the mayor of moscow's wife. he got six million dollars to his law firm from chinese billionaires. these are all national security concerns especially when you talk about the energy industry, very sensitive technology, not to mention intellectual technology theft from china.
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to get energy deals in russia. the bidens continue to downplay. joe biden says none of this is true, basically downplaying. your take on this information coming out? >> well it is more of the same. it's certainly, you know it is smoke and definitely should be looked at. the first question is why, why are you giving three million dollars in two different tranches of $3 million to law firm of a person who is not particularly distinguished lawyer, who has a lot of problems, who has no particular expertise in your area? why? that is always the question. it was the same question is burisma, an energy company on the board, hunter biden on the board who had no particular experience in energy. by then a number of personal problems that were well-known that would have affected his employment. could it have something to do,
is it conceivable that it hadding to to do with the fact that his father was the vice president at the time? all of these certainly should be investigated and the idea that you just say that there is nothing to it, we should walk away, i think is wrong. but at this point in time, that is as much as you can say. but i certainly think it is suspicious for people not to answer questions about it or just to blow it off. i'm talking about hunter. there is not much evidence of joe's involvement. elizabeth: so the senators are saying they're really worried about counterintelligence and extortion concerns. let me back up. tony bobulinski is laying it out. he wanted a 10 million-dollar deal, hunter and tony with the chinese energy company, cefc. that fell apart. then the chinese company starts sending millions of dollars into these off-balance sheet shell companies. they bury the payments in these off-balance sheet shells. they found another $3 million
that went to rob walker, llc. that was hunter biden's business partner. >> right. elizabeth: seems like millions of dollars are sloshing around after the deal fell apart and here is more information. this just came out. that the leader of this company, chairman ye, of this chinese energy company, that you know, hunter biden is sending a text message to tony bobulinski saying, we had a standing once a week phone call the two of us. i would, he would come to my apartment. we would cook didnter together. he helped ye on personal matters like visas for his staff. then this guy goes missing. he was the go-to guy for energy deals in russia. that is, hunter biden sends another text message i have the blanking top spy of china my apartment. that is a concern for these two senators. what do you think? >> there are all kinds of concerns.
number one you always have to be concerned about possible foreign extortion. that is what the fbi was supposedly concerned about with respect to president trump when he was a candidate for the presidency. you mentioned something interesting, you mention that bobulinski deal or bobulinski deal falling apart. don't forget one reason that might have fallen apart because bobulinski kept insisting that it be done on the up and up, that it would be done the right way. all of sudden he is ignored, he finds out years later that the money is going to biden interests through a different path. so all of that is worth looking at. and you noticed that hunter biden in one of these emails, he mentions the foreign corrupt practices act. elizabeth: right. >> there was a big scandal a few years ago in china where a major u.s. bank had a programs called the sons and daughters programs where they had huge contracts
with the chinese government at the same time they were offering employment to the sons and daughters of chinese communist officials. and so i'm not saying the exact psalm thing happened here but that is the kind of thing that the u.s. government and the justice department investigates and prosecutes all the time. we don't know that it happened here but the idea that the fbi shouldn't investigate this or that it is not a cause for concern is just simply ridiculous. elizabeth: okay. gotcha. sol, we'll have you back on later in the show. we'll stay on the story in another segment. you will come back in a bit. >> sure. elizabeth: we have a lot more to discuss on the story. sol is coming back in couple minutes. next up, fox news joe concha on growing backlash on media and democrats trying to prolit size the attack on "operation warp speed." it is successful to market. maybe a vaccine in a few weeks. the debate, are they putting politics over your health? more on new york governor andrew
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♪. >> what are you talking about? you're now going to override. we did it already! that's the law. orange zone and red zone. follow the facts. >> still confused. >> you're confused. >> i'm confused and parents are still confused as well. the schools are -- >> they're not confused. you're confused. >> no. i think parents are confused as well. >> read the law. of the read the law you won't be confused. >> i don't think that is obnoxious at all. >> i don't really care what you think. elizabeth: welcome "the hill" media opinion columnist joe concha. i'm sure you have a lot to say, joe. what do you think of that? >> i thought i was watching sonny corleone in the corleone family. a tough guy, calling a reporter obnoxious. he is confused as far as the facts are concerned, elizabeth. imagine the shoe on other foot,
the foot on donald trump's. you would hear declarations this was unprovoked attack on fourth estate and free and fair press in terms of speaking proof to power. challenging leaders at press conferences this shall not stand. cuomo on national media gets a free pass on this particular instance. you calls the reporter confused, the reporter from "the wall street journal," was asking elizabeth, parents are confused in terms of when the kids are going to school, they may not be. we hear stories they may be pulled out of school, 24 hour notice. sure enough, cuomo said you're confused. moments later, bill de blasio doesn't talk to the governor of the state very often, literally closed schools on new york on thursday despite a positivity rate of 0.19. which is almost nothing. elizabeth: i know. >> here you have governor cuomo an incompetent egomaniac, currently on a book tour, elizabeth, that he defeated coronavirus. it is going through a second wave and a surge like many
predicted it would but yet he wrote a book. now is doing a book tour about a great job he did. what a joke. elizabeth: the real hero there too was guy who was trying to sign language it. he is real hero now. >> no emotion. elizabeth: yeah. move on to this one, media and democrats trying to politicize speedy covid-19 vaccines. watch first of joy reid of msnbc falsely claim moderna and us pfizer did not participate in "operation warp speed." combined, got $4 billion from it. >> the companies themselves producing these vaccines were not involved in "operation warp speed." said as much so that is a lie. elizabeth: that is not a lie. referring to pfizer saying they didn't get research money. they got money to distribute it. and for other things. then you have new york state governor cuomo saying the
reasons why the vaccine development is moving so fast, is quote ego and money. that the first drug company has the vaccine, that is the big money. you don't need to tell trump that. he had nothing to do with that. really about ego and money, is that a fair assessment? >> let me go back to joy reid first, what she said was a lie. not just money defies her couple million dollars, $1.95 billion that was for vaccine delivery. moderna who she also said had nothing to do with "operation warp speed." >> they were involved in vaccine development partnered with nih. who is nih. national institute of health. that is dr. fauci. that is easy fact check to make. you will never see an apology there. as far as cuomo, he said this. the bad news the vaccine came two months too early, in other words before the biden administration takes over. he went on to say, that we cannot let the vaccination plan go forward. imagine that. you're the most vulnerable in new york state, we saw what happened with nursing homes, up
to 12,000 people sent back to nursing homes who were covid positive by an order by governor cuomo. now because of politics, the governor cuomo who said last week to howard stern that if he wasn't governor he would physically assault president trump, that he would deck him? again, the ego on this guy. the bottom line is, if he does not allow the vaccination plan to go forward, people in new york, the most vulnerable, above 70 years old, with preexisting health problems don't get the vaccine because this guy is trying to make a point, wants a cabinet position, in the biden administration. elizabeth: i got it. i want to show the viewer what operation. what "operation warp speed" has been funding. show the scroll of funding what they're doing over there. now we've got also "the wall street journal" james freeman is pointing this out that nbc claimed back in august there was quote, no evidence for the president to be saying "operation warp speed" would produce a vaccine before the end of the year, saying this was largely false. but you know, the question is
why politicize this? why attack this? covid has been with us almost a year. form her. hs director kathleen sebelius regarded in the health sector, trump was right to put financial muscle behind this to get the government and private sector working. she give as lot of credit to the trump administration. she says they were wrong in other ways but this made a huge difference. so, let me back up. why politicize this? >> that is the thing. i think, elizabeth that this is the signature achievement of this administration, get this vaccine so fast. in february, we saw, actually, a fact check from "the washington post that admonished president trump for saying we would have a vaccine around this time. even dr. fauci, again, this isn't a criticism because this is unprecedented virus but he had said late february, it would take anywhere from a year, year to year-and-a-half. we're talking about march of
2021, somewhere around september 2021 to be at the stage that we are now, where you could have the military getting doses as early as this month, front line workers getting it as early as next month this sun precedented. the blind partisans get out of the way, give president and this administration the credit where credit is due. this is his signature achievements elizabeth. elizabeth: joe concha. thanks so much for joining us. really appreciate it. >> great to see you, thank you. >> same here. next up, former independent deputy counsel sol wisenberg back with us on the new information in the hunter biden controversy. we'll break it down next. >> president obama's administration was concerned about it. this wasn't something that popped up on the eve of an election. this is something going on for a very long time. if they would just use their, i mean, the same vim and vigor they used to investigate trump i think a lot more would have dropped earlier. they need to continue to investigate it fully.
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♪. elizabeth: okay. more on the hunter biden story about that new senate report. back with me is sol wisenberg, former deputy independent counsel. sol, the new information, appears that there is information from tony bobulinski, hunter's former partner that hunter was getting paid millions of dollars by the chinese energy conglomerate. while that same company was trying to get energy deals with russia. that company, cefc, was russia's main bridge to china on energy deals. he is cultivating ties with officials close to vladmir putin, the chairman of the cefc company. at the same time cefc is paying hunter biden millions and millions of dollars through shell companies, off-balance sheet shell companies. what is your take on this? >> it is not illegal to do business with a foreign government unless they're on a
prohibited list. so everything, everything is con contextual. i'm not excited about that yet as some of the other stuff with buriesma. to me, the key is, why does this guy, obviously if his name was hunter wisenberg or hunter wilson or something like that, and he was basically a regular old lawyer he wouldn't be getting, you're talking about his law firm alone from what i've read in the report, the law firm alone got six million dollars. then you have all of this other money coming in. the question is, what is he getting paid for and why? the fact that he is, that he is being hired to lobby with russian interests is, should be very interesting to all of us since his father is president. could be subject to extortion.
could be kompromat issue. there is no issue as long as you make all the disclosures you should. yeah. elizabeth: the information coming out is that the chinese company knew the value of the biden name and went for it. that here is the new information. >> no kidding. elizabeth: hunter biden was key to the goodwill to surround chairman ye, the cefc chairman, to surround this chinese chairman with good wil. hunter biden name associated with him, so they could do deals in oman, luxembourg, romania and also russia. but the off-balance sheet shells, hunter is getting money, family is getting money for shopping spruce to avoid registering as a register foreign agent for the u.s. government. money laundering the hunter biden laptop at the fbi
reportedly still being investigated that the shells were used for money laundering. there are some avenues for this story, sol, what do you think? >> you're throwing a lot at me. elizabeth: i know. sorry. >> this goodwill, this food goodwill. a lot of money for goodwill. business people don't pay money without something in return. you just don't pay somebody money because his dad is vice president. that doesn't do anything for me. you know. keep in mind with money laundering you tell need for money laundering to, to show money laundering an underlying, almost all cases what is called unspecified unlawful activity, an underlying crime. i commit a sophisticated bank fraud and i do something with that money. that is the question, what is the underlying crime. all i know it is of supreme interest to me, supreme interest, this amount of money is being paid, being paid in a
hidden way to something like that and why. elizabeth: okay. sol, so sorry, so sorry hit you with so much and overloaded you. won't do that again. >> all right. keep it simple. elizabeth: we will. coming up congressman greg stuebe from house judiciary on california lawmakers saying well, we had to violate the state's lock down rules, because it was quote crucial and essential to go to hawaii on a junket to figure out how to open up the home state of california. we'll give you more on the head scratcher next. >> they're saying not to have but a certain amount of people at thanksgiving at your house. they're talking about maybe you need to wear a mask in your house. look, the american people have had it. i'm not going to enforce any of these edicts.
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♪. elizabeth: okay. welcome back to show florida congressman greg stuebe from house judiciary. congressman honored to have you back. maybe you can figure this out. nine of california went including democrat, they say they broke the california covid rules, that they had to fly to a junket in hawaii. that this trip to hawaii, was quote crucial, essential to get ideas how to safely reopen in california. why do you need to fly to hawaii to figure out how to reopen in california? >> it just show you the democrat hypocrisy knows no bounds. we seen it with speaker pelosi violating mask mandates in san francisco. we've seen it with governor gavin newsom in san francisco violating ordinances there. governor cuomo going to georgia maskless, violating restrictions. d.c. mayor bowser going to a joe biden event, calling it
essential travel. as long as rules don't apply to the democratic leaders instilling lockdowns to the american people. it doesn't apply to them t applies to us lower beings that we have abide by their mundane, over reaching atrocious regulations. >> democrats, lawmakers out of california so far are silent. it is republican state lawmakers trying to explain it. go figure. what is also going on. we have sheriffs now in four states saying we can't enforce these thanksgiving lock down rules going to people's private homes to see how many people you're having dinner with. at the same time california governor gavin newsom going to a restaurant with 24 people the same day, the same day that he put the brakes on reopening. he attends an indoor dinner party with two dozen people in napa valley. they're not wearing masks. media and you know, people are really, really angry about this,
really ripping into him, what was your take on this story? >> of course not. then he lied about the fact he was following all of his covid restrictions. come to find out they were inside, not outside like he said they were violating all the restrictions. you haven't heard from him since recanting on the lie to the people of california. we don't even have, this is the alleged party of science and party of investigations and scientists there is no real evidence that these lockdowns even work. look at countries like sweden didn't lock down, they don't have infection rates like in other countries that did lockdown. florida, we've been open since may. kids in person since may. summer camp, you're not seeing infection rates in florida like some other rates. we don't really know what is spreading covid. so why lock down the american people on unenforceable rules. the sheriffs are right, you can't enforce how many people they have in the thanksgiving dinner, knock on the door to
make sure everybody inside is wearing masks. it is an overreach. the american people are sick and tired of it. elizabeth: you know, governor newsom, he is apologizing for breaking his own rules. but is he apologizing only after he got caught? it is sort of like they get to ask for our permission but, they get to ask for our forgiveness but we have to ask their permission, that is what it feels like, right? >> nokia would have reported he was actually in there. after he said he was outside eating. there is pictures that surfaced he was actually inside, elbow to elbow, everybody maskless, eating that was not what he had lied about. so absolutely, it is -- the american people are starting to see leaders imparting these very overburden densome regulations on the american people are not willing to follow themselves number one, they don't think they actually work or number two, they're enacting laws on
the american people. elizabeth: pennsylvania says you have to wear a mask if you have a visitor into your private home. everybody has to wear a mask inside your home. how do you enforce that? >> justice alito already said that these type of things have gone way over our constitutional protections in the united states. i hope people start filing lawsuits, if in fact some jurisdictions decide to enforce overreaching, overburdensome regulations. elizabeth: congressman, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. elizabeth: next up national border patrol council brandon judd how mexico forced the u.s. to send back to mexico a former defense secretary back to mexico on drug charges for allegedly helping nor tore russ drug cartels. is this a tipping point in u.s.-mexico relations. that story next. >> being distributed through every corner of the country. it is very deadly in very small
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we love having you on. what is your take on the story? reports come in mexico gave unheard of warning to washington, if the u.s. had arrested it is former defense minister for drug corruption. mexico says you, if you don't let him go, let us take him back, we will expel american federal drug agents from mexico that is a decades long partnership that brought several drug lords to justice. this is a serious story. is this a tipping point in relations here? >> this is very serious story, this shouldn't surprise anybody in the united states. anybody kept up what is taking place in mexico, what is on our borders, there is widespread corruption in the mexican government. for law enforcement officers here in the united states, to take into custody, to deprive somebody of constitutional rights there has to be evidence that a crime was committed. there was evidence. these individuals, law enforcement took this mexican
official into custody for proper reasons and then of course the mechanic can government pushed back. he is a very powerful individual because he has the cartels backing him up. we know that cartels have a lot of influence and sway in mexico in the mexican government. elizabeth: i mean, it is like, he is one step away from the leader of mexico. he was at that time. >> he is. elizabeth: he is charged with money laundering and trafficking heroin, cocaine methaphetamine, and marijuana on behalf of the h-2 drug cartel. that is offshoot from older criminal mafia. they create horrific acts of violence as part of drug smuggling business. he wants answers. why did you let him go? >> he should ask for those answers. the american public should ask for the answers. after face value you have to question why this took place. i will take a step back and look at attorney general william barr, say, this guy has done a
phenomenal job as the attorney general. he is a law and order individual. he wants to protect the interests of the american public. so there has to be a reason that he made this determination. and until he comes out and explains that i will give him the benefit of the doubt. you look back, asked about the tipping point. if this is the tipping point in foreign relations between the mexican government and the united states government and this isn't the particular tipping point. the tipping point was when, the mainstream media called the election for joe biden. at that point the mexican government, cartels knew that hey, we're going back to the old way of doing business. we can start ramping up our production again. we can start crossing people illegally. we can start making ultimatums of the united states and the united states will acquiesce. that is what we've seen in the past. elizabeth: all right. so now, we've got the story, we reported last night, npr reported it too, fentanyl is
really coming on deadly strong in the western u.s. and california, arizona and those states. tens of thousands of deaths from fentanyl. because now there was a breakthrough discovery, stanford university found, by the way two milligrams, about the weight of a small mosquito can kill you, it is fatal. they're finding fentanyl in certain other opioids like oxycontin. also in xanax. they're also finding it in heroin and ecstasy. that is why you know authorities out west are realizing people are dying more from drugs and it is because fentanyl is slipped into it. china drugmakers, china drugmakers, people in china are hooking up with drug cartels in mexico to deliver the fentanyl across the border to contaminate all sorts of drugs with it. what do you think of this story? >> so when you look at these multinational criminal organizations it should be very scary to know that these chinese cartels are now hooking up with
mexican cartels. they're partnering to get their products into the united states. so you have got this fentanyl. very cheap and very dangerous fentanyl coming from china into mexico. then the mexican cartels are getting them into the united states. huge profits are being made for both cartels. this should be very, very concerning. it is alarming to the law enforcement community that two major powers like china and mexico would be teaming up to get drugs into the united states. elizabeth: all right. brandon judd, always great to have you on. thank you so much. thank you for your service to our country. good to see you, my friend. >> thank you. >> i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. thanks so much for watching. we hope you have a good evening and join us again tomorrow night. ♪ we come to the top of the hour.
see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. president trump's legal team today saying they have the evidence to swing the election to president trump. attorneys for the trump campaign speaking for more than an hour and a half today at a news conference in washington where they chastised the radical dems and the left-wing national media for their handling of this election, and they provided damning examples of what they say is rampant vote or or fraud across the country. the president's attorney, rudy giuliani, leading the charge today. giuliani says the radical dems' control and power