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honor to have you. >> thank you. >> secretary rice. that's all the time we have. thanks for being with us. see you back here tomorrow night. [applause] >> tonight ka-ching ka-ching. that's the sound of herman cain's cash register. the cash register has been opening and closing for the past few days. money has been pouring into the campaign and it all started yesterday when presidential candidate started facing questions about sexual harassment. how busy is it? he made $300,000 online yesterday, the biggest one-day hall of his campaign. meantime governor rick perry is getting for this speech he made on friday. >> come on, live free or die? you've got to love that, right? we are kind of into those slogans, man, live free or die,
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victory or death, bring it. the little man i just shared with you doesn't force the granite state to expand your tax footprint. you know what i mean, like 9% expansion. [laughter] >> now is that strange behavior or just enthusiasm? tonight governor perry defendants his performance calling it a good speech and saying he felt great that night. fox news senior analyst brit hume joins us. he is getting secured on late night talk show and others. fair or not? >> he got a standing ovation in the room and reporters on the scene, both local and national, including dan from the national post who we have known for a long time and covered dozens of campaigns, did not notice anything especially odd or strange or disqualifying about it. in fact, to read his account of it, my impression was it was a good outing for perry. so i think that this was one of
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these cases where if you take a little excerpts and string them together you can make it look one way but people in the room who heard the whole thing got a different impression. >> i'm always stuck on things i her in the past. in 2004 when governor dean gave the famous dean stream, i don't know if i was live on the air or whatever, i thought it was the weirdest anything she said in the room it wasn't weird. i don't know if she still remembers saying it. >> i remember her saying it very well. >> so it gives me a little bit of pause because we watch things on tv and they can team really weird but in person sometimes it's different. >> i looked at the number of hits and as of late this afternoon, early this evening, there were more than 600,000 hits for an 8-minute excerpts on youtube. >> five were probably fine. >> there was a 25 minute version, basically the full speech and there were 289 hits of that. you see people who saw this when it went viral on the internet
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saw the excerpted version, which judging from what we can tell is much worse. >> i thought the smoking ad for herman cain went viral, and i thought that gave them like free advertising. they weren't putting it on tv and we were putting it all over tv. i'm curious whether this one going viral has the same effect? >> i don't -- well, it never helps to have some speech of yours held up to ridicule and excerpted in a way that makes people poke fun at it. you are trying to move on, talk about the issues and so on and he's answering questions about a speech he made last friday. it just gets in the way of what you are trying to do. in the situation of herman cain that's correct ad went viral, and they didn't even have it up on their own website when it went viral. my sense about the ad was it was kind of interesting. you sort of couldn't take your eyes off it once you had seen it but i'm not sure how much it accomplished. made him look like a smoking advocate and he had to take a lot of questions about that when he was on one of the talk shows
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this weekend. there you go. >> and what has come out since the allegations of two sexual harassment complaints against him. i don't think the complaints are helpful to him, i i might add, t money is coming in. >> i think people who like herman cain, who sense sort of a deep down goodness in the man, which is the way he comes across, they hear a complaint like this, they may know about the state of the law in this matter to know you don't have to prove that you actually did anything or propositioned anybody, it's enough to make a complaint that someone said something to you that made you feel uncomfortable or that you found offensive. that leaves a wide area and it's subject to potential abuse. here he is like clarence thomas back in 1987 at a big moment, he's number one in the polls, and all of a sudden this comes out of the woodwork and i think it made people suspicious it may not be on the up and up and
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maybe felt people to donate. >> i don't want to flip but i wouldn't find sexual harassment allegations as a campaign fundraiser. >> of course not. >> i'm being sarcastic. >> the last two days has he been talking much about 9-9-9, the plan that got him so much favor? no, he's talking about whether or not he sexually harassed anybody. that doesn't help. >> he was here with us for a long time. i can't tell you how i felt -- viewers were telling me i was waterboarding him and they were furious. he has a strong base of support. >> you asked the questions that had to be asked and he was clearly here to answer them. >> and he's quite willing and i told him straight up i have to ask all the questions and he was fine on that. let's talk about 2012. speaker gingrich seems to be sort of reminds me of the kentucky derby, seems to be
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coming up the back row a little bit. >> one of which the debates have done, they have rewarded candidates who behave in a composed and dig anified way. in the case of herman cain, he had something substantive to talk about. he came across as likable. he moved up in the policy. i think that rick perry came out and didn't have much to say. he sank in the polls. newt gingrich always has stuff to say. he has a great mind, he has a lot of ideas, he's pretty articulate. he may not be the freshest face in the race, but he's done reasonably well. michele bachman she had her moment but she couldn't really back it up, it seemed to me, and that's why she faded. gingrich is another story. he may get a little tracks here. >> brit, thank you. hope you come back soon. >> thanks, greta. >> now to the crisis that's
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gripping our nation, no jobs. we spoke with kevin mccarthy earlier tonight. >> good to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> we on the republican bills related to jobs? >> well we have our whole american job creators. the interesting part of the ticket is these are all the bills of that passed the house but are sitting in the senate. currently there's 18 and they continue to grow. we passed three more this week. one of them will actually be a democrat bipartisan bill as well but the senate just continues to sit there which is frustrating when you look at what the president is saying as well. >> it's almost like practice voting. if there's no movement i think the bill would be either passed or not passed in the senate but they just stall? >> they just stall. but there are 915 days, not even passing a budget with a that's their style.
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>> why doesn't he put it on the floor and let it get voted down? >> i don't understand why. if you don't like it, you have the votes, let it be brought up. a lot of some of our stuff, bills that have passed, the president talked about it in scope what he wanted to do, we bassed the 3% withholding and the president said he would sign that. it was part of his explain they haven't brought it up. >> do the republicans do that to the democrats when they have that opportunity, to hold things up? >> i'm sure there's enough blame on everybody's side. i'm only in my third term. i haven't seen it done on this side. i'm not into going it going in from past anger. i'm from today. people are hurting at home. >> there are democratic bills sitting here, anything from the senate sitting here that's unfinished business? >> i haven't seen from the standpoint something sitting that they want. the senate hasn't passed much. we are bringing up a senate bill today on the floor in suspension. we have a democrat bill from the
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house this week. we like the things get brought up. things changed since republicans have taken over that people haven't looked at is the transparency. we are going to conference for the first time in three years. we had an open process where anybody can offer an amendment. much more open than you have had in the past. >> what's the problem? there's such a logjam here. and even the president, he's critical of congress and congress is critical of him. what seems to be the problem? you all work within about 16 blocks of each other. >> that's probably the part that upsets me the most. normally in divided government we've accomplished great things. when ronald reagan was president he had tip o'neil as a specker and ross mckowski as a weighs and means chairman and they reform the tax code. and newt newt gingrich was a ler and bob dole on another side and they balanced the budget and reformed welfare. >> what happened? >> i have found since the day we came, i have a picture on the wall here, of the president
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inviting him to our conference when we were in the minority. i just haven't found the engagement. when we first got elected to the majority, speaker boehner and i went and had lunch with the president. let's not demon eyes each other, let's have ideas up and move forward. we produced a budget that talked about tax policy, budget reform and the president said that's good let's do it together and the next thing we know he invites paul ryan down and criticizes. i think the politics of it it has gotten caught up in his mind instead of find being the answer. >> we see a lot of politics. people talk about each other in the public domain but when you sit privately with the president, what's the conversation like? are you able to come to any sort of agreement on things and any sort of common ground? >> the toughest part, you never get to an agreement with him which we would like to get to because you've got to be able to move forward. and we find that when you start
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him into the talks, he never finishes in the process. he will talk about, yeah, let's talk about that. yeah, we need to do something about it, but never comes to a conclusion. >> why not? give an example. >> i'll give you an example when we talked about our budget entitlement reform. we said to the president let's do this. let's go around the country together, just talking about what the problem is. what's the amount of debt america has? what are the different options? and he said that's very interesting, we should look at it. the minute we produce something, he criticized it. you can produce another idea. when you are going into the debt limit, we sat down as a conference and sat in the white house with the president. i laid out to the president, i said, look, let's just pick principles, and if we are in a big problem that we won't spend more than we are willing to cut, we will look at it from that, we will create a jobs plan that's actually going to work. we will look at ways we can reform entitlement and he won even agree to the process where
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we go in principle so it gets very tough. >> why? >> only one person can answer that question. >> if he were sitting here, what would he are saying about you? >> i've listened to a lot of what he said about congress and sometimes i don't think it's quite true. but i think there's enough pain and anxt to go around that come down and find the answer. >> why can't you just call each other and get in the same room? it's baffling because there is common ground, right? >> yeah, there's a lot of common ground. >> seems like we should at least identify the common ground and move quickly forward on that, right? >> yes. >> so why doesn't that happen? >> well, we found that a number of bills are moving off the house but it gets stopped in the senate. i think sometimes politics get put in the way. >> can't you call the president and say, look, your guy, a democrat is holding this up, it's monogrammed, you agree, we agree, can't we get him onboard and get a vote on it. >> i would like to get a vote
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any day we can. >> but can you make a call to make the president do that? it's his party. >> i would love to call the president. >> so if you call he won't answered? >> he answered that many and i haven't called that many. but when i see him we talk about it. >> when was the last time you saw him. >> when he came to give his jobs speech. >> which was september? >> yeah, a month ago. >> almost two months ago. >> that's a long time. american people are thinking okay that's two months ago since you have spoken and you only work 16 blocks apart, you have common ground and you all agree on certain things and it might really matter to the american people it gets done and it doesn't so it's quite perplexing. >> it's not just a phone call. remember, when he came out with his jobs plan, the speaker and the leader went and analyzed, one we did from a whole group, what are the things in his plan that are similar to our plan. wouldn't that be a good starting point? let's start and work from there. >> what happened there? >> we never quite got an answer.
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>> it goes into a black hole? >> well, i never received a letter back. from the standpoint we started moving items, we moved to 3%. we did work together when it came to the free trade agreements. we passed up a three of those, waiting five years, that was part of his plan and part of our plan. this week we will move a number of small business bills that are in the scope of what he talked about. we moved a vets jobs plan that's sitting over in the senate. there's part of the responsibility that we have, and we are doing that work. you've got to carry it on to finish it out, though. >> i hate to speak on behalf of the american people but i guess they would rather see something with some finality, whether denied or granted but it seems instead things just sort of linger and they seem to be swirling around in a circle and things don't get denied or granted or passed are to shot down. >> first thing i learned about politics is early morning as a young kid i'm just a bill on capitol hill, remember that,
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conjunction, conjunction, what's your function? all right. a bill goes to one house, the other house and then to conference. that is a breakdown of the system. >> does it drive you nuts? >> its frustrating. it's one of the reasons why we ran even as the majority and the reason why we wrote the pledge to america that we would not participate in that. so he opened up the process. everybody can offer amendments. so there is some correction and some change. the frustration that i see is you get within the politics of it, that people want to demonize the other person instead of argue about it. if your idea wins at the end of the day, let's put it over. >> how do we get to the point it's not a debate but a demonization? when did that happen. >> make particular personal to me is not where you want to go. look, i am tired, when you sit and talk about a budget, we all know we have a deficit. i'm tired of the tricks we make
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with it, the game mix that go forward, the false lies. let's put it out there and let people make a decision. that is a process. we have a responsibility as a majority party in the house, we produced the budget in less than five months of being in the majority. our counter parts have not produce the one in 915 days. say why does that happen? our system is created one side has to produce something and somebody else. if the other side doesn't produce it, it breaks the system down. now you can put blame on all houses but that's not really the case. if one side is producing it, that's the way the system is designed to work. then you are supposed to come together and go to the other side. if that is breaking down, the focus has to be there, what's the correction needed on the senate side. >> thank you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> and straight ahead, did you see what happened to the stock market today? a nose dive. and what about tomorrow? should you be worried or should you just buckle up and get ready for a really wild ride?
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>> greece is risking a meltdown. it's on the brink of collapse tonight and you care, you care big time because our markets are getting drag into their financial chaos. did you see what happened today? the dow plunged nearly 300 points. jean correspondent dennis neal joins us. before we get to the question of greece and the markets we have it talk about what's going on with the big bonuses at fannie mae and freddie mac. who can contain themselves even talking about this one? >> it's one thing, frankly, when the ceo of jp morgan chase gets a big bonus and they have paid back their tarp money to the government, i don't think the government or anybody has anything to say about it except the shareholders of chase. but when guys are running a
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governor receiver ship like fanny and fran any, two who contributed so hugely to the meltdown, far more than wall street did, and wall street paid back with a profit and these guys are still $140 billion or $120 billion in the hole or something like that and then to pay them bonuses for basically running something this is a dead man walking that needs to be put out of business is kind of in four -- infuriating. >> let me say aim going to contain myself because it is so appalling after everything, after $170 billion bailout. let me move on to another bigger crisis, the worldwide one. greece is about to literally implode and it really matters to us. >> yeah. this is my big, fat greek anxiety attack. okay, on thursday, wednesday, thursday, the dow up 500 points
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in two days. why? we are so happy about the greek bailout. then the greek prime minister comes out and says, you know what, let's put this plan up for a vote for referendum among the very people who have been rioting in the streets in protesting a benefit cut. >> and we should explain to the viewers what we are talking about is that germany and france say, look, we will bail you out, greece, but you need to have an as austerity program and you have to start cutting things and the people of greece have to vote on this. they are furious they will lose benefits so the prime minister says let's vote on it so now take over. >> i don't know what he is thinking. the bad thing about the selling we see is that for the rank and file investor, we end up feeling like, shoot, do these pros know something i don't know? should i sell, too? and here's the thing. pros are selling so furiously is because they don't know anything
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at all. they aren't sure how much exposure there is, the american banks have to the greek debt. they aren't sure what will happen. i think overall the greek economy the size of connecticut, i'm not going to let that have me sell my stocks and get out of a retirement fund. one said today can we all just calm down? the pros and speculators are going wild but we are investing for the long-term. slow down. something this week shows you, greta, you have to be diversified. you have to have other stuff that goes up and stocks go down. >> and right now angela merkel from germany and sarkozy from france are going to meet about the bailout in greece and it has an impact on us what greece does because there's the domino what happens in europe happens here. so we have to keep our eyes on it.
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as much as we are looking at it long-term, if something collapses that has a long-term impact. >> and if you are talking about our retirement account and over half of americans have their retirement account in the stock market, remember i didn't sell any stocks today so even though the market fell $300 i didn't lose a dollar because it might rise the next day. it's two steps up for one step back, two steps up and overall the direction is up. don't panic here. hold on and you have to believe. >> and my husband told me that i'm such a downer on this, he said dennis is so up-beat about you. he likes listening to you better than me on this. >> somewhere between the two wild extremes of you and me investors might stay the course and overall i hope we will be okay. i'm praying, guys. >> i hope you are right, dennis. anyway. >> thanks, greta. >> nice to see you. and haley barber goes on the record. is he tipping his hand showing which republican nominee he wants? you will find out. also hold your breath for this one. the landing gear fails on a huge
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it slid down the runway and here's the shock, no one was hurt. the flight originated in newark, new jersey. the pilots didn't realize the problem until they were preparing to land and the landing gear didn't work. then they circled for an hour, dumping fuel and went for it. the put out small fires as the plane scraped the ground and tonight the pilots are heros. the time is running out for the super committee and right now there's a trillion dollars gap between republicans and democrats. republican democrat haley barber said he and fellow governors know what needs to be done. we spoke with him a short time ago. governor, nice to see you. >> hi, greta. thank you for having me on. >> governor, i understand you and some other governors have written the super committee in washington about some of their expected or intended cuts. what have you written the super committee? what do you want? >> specifically republican governors have talked to the
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super committee and written them about making saves in medicaid. medicaid is our biggest entitlement program for states by far. earlier this year republican governors published a report of 31 solutions that would improve the quality of medicaid while saving money. we brought that back to the attention of the super committee and said we know the country has to save and spend less and we are willing to do our part. here are some ideas. count on us to help save but police don't shift costs from the federal government over to the state government. we can save money but cost shifting is not saving money. >> did you get an answer like that's a great idea or let's talk or we will consider it or that's a lousy idea? did you get any response or does it go into a black hole. >> well we have got response from the staff. staff people have reached out to our staff to go through some of these ideas. we've made presentations to them. and as you know, senator baucus
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actually put out a proposal i believe calling for $100 million in medicare savings. unfortunately, from what you read in the paper anyway, it looks like most of what he was talking about was cost shifting that. is changing the rate of the federal government's payment for medicaid versus the state, what they call a blended rate. all that does it means the federal government will spend less but the states would make it up. there wouldn't be savings involved. we are willing to do real savings and we want to be partners with the federal government but we want the federal government to save money but the state to save money too, and it can be done that way. we also told them, greta, there are other nonentitlement programs that states are involved in where we know we can save money, like workforce training where there are dozens of different programs and you can save a lot of money just by reducing the administrative costs by only having a small
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number of programs instead of several dozen programs. and, of course, the example we tried to set with medicaid is if we can save money on our biggest entitlement program, the federal government ought to be able to make spending not go up as fast and therefore have savings on the big federal entitlement programs like social security and medicare. and senator baucus again has apparently proposed some savings in medicare, and we applaud him for that. the last thing we told him was don't raise tax rates. that to deal with his deficits, we've got to increase growth. we've got to generate some growth in the united states and raising tax rates will make the economy grow less. in fact, the president's repeated proposal for huge tax increases on employers makes it less likely and harder for employers to hire anybody. so those are -- we talked across the board, but with a big focus on medicaid. >> all right. i would be more optimistic that
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they were seriously going incorporate your ideas if, a, it wasn't the staff to staff and b, if it wasn't senator baucus but instead they said the wholcommittee and lay it out so we can all talk about it among the decision makers. have you gotten that invitation? >> well, we have. i'm not sure that's operation neal how they are working so i don't read too much into that. but hopefully they are hering from us. and a lot of democrat governors agree with republicans on this. tax increases will hurt our economy where the biggest thing we need in the united states is economic growth and job creation. >> all right. i know you have not yet endorsed for 2012, but i'm curious, what sort of interests you more in a candidate for 2012, someone who is more in line with your thinking, your particular ideology on different issues or someone you think is more apt to beat the president in a general
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election? >> well, of course, i'm like any other voter, both interests me and interests me a lot. but i think i am like millions of republicans today who are looking at this field and where those republicans normally would be saying who do i love the most? who is the most like me? i think there is a lot more sentiment in people's minds to say who has the best chance to beat obama? because republicans, conservatives, moderates, independents in the united states know we have to have a change, and know that the direction, the policies of the obama administration are bad for the country. so i do think there is a bigger element this year than normal of people who are focused on that second point. who is the most likely to defeat obama and get our country back on the right direction? >> okay. i know you know political strategy probably as well or better than anybody else. which in the field, aim not
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saying not necessarily the candidates most in line with your thinking, but which in this line of candidates is that person that is most likely to beat president obama? >> well, you know, that remains to be seen. i know almost all of them and a lot of them pretty well. almost everybody has got strengths, great strengths, almost everybody has weaknesses. >> adding them all together. who has the most? who has the most, do you think? >> well, i think that really remains to be seen. we have to see if mitt romney, who has great discipline, he's got proven management skills, is he going to develop that ability to really connect with the voters? because he's got a lot going for him. rick perry, who has got a great record in texas, and is for a lot of the policies i would be for, is he going to become a better candidate, a better performer, get more on his game? herman cain, can he add he's
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likable and attractive, can he add issues substance, policy substance to what he's doing? newt gingrich, who i think has done better in the debates than anybody else and is a brilliant guy, can he give people the belief that he can manage, that he can actually run the country? michele bachman, somebody who is very articulate, and i think has shown better in this than people thought, can she really rise to the occasion or can rick santorum recover from having lost his senator by coming back? can jon huntsman, who is sort of coming at this from a different angle, can he catch up? can he convince republicans he's the right candidate for change? we're not going to know that, greta, for a while. remember, four years ago in october the two leaders were rudy giuliani and fred thompson. so we shouldn't be expecting everybody to have reached their full potential by now. >> but i assume you have sort of
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identified the president's vulnerabilities in 2012, where you think he is the most vulnerable to a republican competitor and i assume you have looked through the candidates in the field and say this person is probably the best to meet his vulnerabilities? it might not be the person i look the most or want to be but have you not done that sort of strategy in your mind? >> well, i have. the point, though, and it's a very good happy point for republicans, is if this election is about president obama's policies and the results of those policies, that is if it's a referendum on his record, obama is going to lose. and almost anybody we nominate, if the election is about obama's record, is going to be a better candidate than obama is. that's why the obama people are going to do everything they can do to make the election anything but a referendum on his record. they are going to try to not let his policies be what decides the
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election. then you start seeing now which can dates are more vulnerable to attack or easier for the obama people to change the subject? and our country, greta, typically re-elections are referenda on how the incumbent has done. if that's the case, everybody i've named would beat barack obama. >> governor, thank you for joining us and i hope you come back soon, sir. >> thank you for having me, greta. >> and now to an on the record campaign flash. something president george washington never would have imagined, a caucus app. they have a brand new app for the iowa caucuses. now they can follow by using their phones. it provides information on all the candidates. it's free and available at the app store. download it, it's great. >> news tonight in the justice department's gun-walking scandal. it isn't just fast and furious
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>> big developments in the justice department gun walking scandal in 60 seconds. but first let's go to the newsroom for the other headlines. >> thank you, greta. about 1.5 million people preparing for a fourth cold night without power. this weekend's fall snowstorm initially knocked out electricity for some 3 million homes and more than half of them still in the dark tonight. the storm stretched from west virginia all the way up to maine, dumping about 30 inches of snow in some places. the storm is being blamed for at least 25 deaths. and closing arguments scheduled to begin on thursday in the manslaughter case of dr. conrad murray, the los angeles trial is wrapping up after 122 days of
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testimony. but the man accused of giving singer michael jackson a fatal dose of a powerful anesthetic will not of it in his defense. his attorneys claim jackson gave himself the deadly dose. if jurors find otherwise, the doctor could face four years behind bars. back to greta. >> a big admission and big regrets from a top justice department official. >> i regret that in april of 2010 that i did not draw the connection between wide receiver and fast and furious. and moreover, i regret that even earlier this year that i didn't draw that connection. >> assistant attorney general lanny brewer telling congress today he should have taken more aggressive action to stop the government's repeated use. controversial gunwalking tactics. but will him taking the blame give more senior officials like eric holder off the hook? homeland security editor rob joins us. nice to see you. >> thank you.
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>> were members of congress particularly impressed with lanny's admission? >> they seemed impressed by the admission that they appreciated it. i don't think it will help the justice department any further than that, though. >> what did he know and when did he know it? >> what he knew was about a previous operation called wide receiver in 2007. >> gunwalking, as well? >> counter gun running but there was alleged gunwalking. the idea of guns flowing into mexico with the atf knowing about it but not doing anything. he found out about it last year as fast and furious was actually happening. and he actually told his staff to talk to the atf, say that these tactics were problematic and unacceptable. >> problematic and unacceptable, that's not like saying don't do it. it's like sort of squishy. >> it is. he made it clear in the hearing he did not find -- unacceptable sort of means he did not like these tactics.
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he let the atf know. according to the brewer the atf acknowledged it while fast and furious was still going on using the same tactic and actually at a much larger scale. >> when did he seem to realize it was really not a good idea. >> he seemed to know it in this hearing. he seemed to know that he knew that this was a problem as soon as he heard about the wide receiver investigation last year. and fast and furious was a big problem earlier this year. he said he did not speak up. at that point there wouldn't be much he could have done because it already happened. the cat was out of the bag at that point. >> except one thing he found out in april of this year, is that when he had the thought? >> he said as soon as it went public. >> which is about when? >> january. >> so since january until now there is a cat and mouse game between the justice department and capitol hill. so i mean, his failure, inability or whatever it is to come forward, he certainly knew they wanted to know what was
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going on? >> his expression of regret was really that he last year didn't take this to the wider justice department. he went to the atf and said this was a problem. he said i probably should have gone to the attorney general, the deputy attorney general so they maybe could have issued some soared of broad edic to stop as youing in tactic. >> were any congressmen thinking the way i am, why didn't you tell us sooner, we were trying to get this information and now it's november 1? >> i think at this point a lot of them were appreciative of having a justice department official that was that frank with them. >> wow. attorney general eric holder, is he mentioned at all? lanny breuer is the one below so the only other one is eric holder. >> the attorney general is scheduled to testify next month in december. he is certainly a part of all these hearings. he is brought up constantly. it is obvious that senator grassley, representative issa really do want to hear what he
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knew and when. >> what do they want -- at this point what does the committee want out of him? what are they digging for? >> the committee got something they wanted today which was in february justice contacted senator grassley and said we have taken every effort to stop guns from crossing the border. and this gave senator grassley a chance to say, well, if you knew last year and nothing changed, you clearly haven't taken every effort. this was a tactic that was used in 2007 and then used again in 2010. >> well, i guess i'm just surprised that lanny breuer was sitting there quietly. it appears it was rather slow to getting the information to congress. rob, thank you. hope you come back. >> thank you. >> straight ahead the bank fees keep adding up and customers are getting fed up. but tonight there is news that will save you money. also, what do basketball players do during a lockout in looks like one nba star is joining another team and another sport. and plus if you notice a lot of
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