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world, a story where we started fox report tonight. the story is still growing. and justice with judge janine and geraldo at large are live on the subject at 9 p.m. and don't miss it. and right now, huckabee, have a great week. >> tonight on huckabee. >> u.s. embassies under attack as chaos breaks out in the middle east. >> and quickly, this began and how quickly it turned violent. >> who is behind the attacks, intelligence committee member, michele bachmann has the latest. >> and federal chairman ben bernanke launching another stimulus. >> because what we're about here is trying to get jobs, trying to create more employment. >> is it really an effort to save one man's job. >> plus. >> what if i told you jesus came to abolish religion. >> he's a christian who loves
jesus, what about organized religion? >> and religion, hate it, in fact, i literally recent it. and youtube sensation joins the governor tonight. ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applause [applause]. >> thank you. now, what a great audience we have here tonight and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. you know, every week we hear the latest jobs numbers, and they aren't good. in fact, they're dismal. an estimated 23 million americans don't have jobs. and beyond those numbers, there are real people, and some of them are in a world of hurt. i've got a special friend who lives in iowa, i got to know her and her family during the presidential campaign in 2008. her name is wendy and she's a beautiful young lady and some would say she's a special needs child, but i'd prefer to
say she's just truly special. well, yesterday, wendy went to work just like she has for the past 11 years, at the local wendy's restaurant. but it was locked up. and a sign on the front said it was closed. the manager explained even though the store was doing fairly well, the company had abruptly closed it because it either needed renovations or rebuilding and in this economy there wasn't enough money to justify the cost of building or renovating and her dad took her back home and for a while she just sat in her room, for a long time, still wearing her uniform and then she said, i think god is telling me right now that i'm not feeling too good because now i've got this frosty keychain and i can't use it. you see, she could always get a free small frosty at the end of her shift with her keychain and whenever i've been in iowa her parents try to bring wendy to see me. when i was there last month
she came and gave me a big hug and i sure wish i could give her one right now. more than that i wish i could get wendy her job back there. and barack obama and mitt romney are going to be slugging it out the next six weeks and talk a lot about the economy and jobs and what they're going to do to make things better. you i truly believe president obama wishes things were better, but after watching his plans fail for four years, i doubt he's going be to be able to make them better. i think that mitt romney understands if people don't have a job they can't buy a hamburger at wendy's, if wendy's isn't selling enough hamburgers for the food and insurance and people will close and special friends like wendy, won't have a be job. and i know they can't personally keep every wendy's open just so my little friend
wendy will have a job, but i really would like both barack obama and mitt romney to be able to look wendy in the eyes and convince her and me that they really understand who she is and that she matters as much as any banger or broker on wall street that got bailed out of their trouble. you see, it's not just about jobs, it's about people and a lot of them don't care about the politics. they just want to feel good again. [applaus [applause]. >> so investigators aren't saying if the attack on our consulate in libya was carried out by a specific group. that happened 11 years after the al-qaeda attacked america. white house press secretary jay carney says they don't hate us, no, they're just angry over a film trailer. >> and this is a fairly volatile situation and it's in response not to the united states policy, not to,
obviously, the administration and not to the american people, it's in response to a video, a film that we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting. >> sure, that's what it was about, all about and watching a video. and so how has this administration handled the crisis? my first guest is on the intelligence committee, would you please welcome minnesota congresswoman michele bachmann. [applause]. good to see you. >> thank you so much for coming. >> thank you. >> no nice to be with you. >> (applause): congresswoman, the white house is blaming all of this on this movie trailer for a movie that nobody really has even seen trying to say that all of this violence was stirred up because people saw a film.
your thoughts, is that what we're really dealing with here is a film? >> no, it isn't. that's the excuse, but that isn't what it is because we know what's happening for about since 2005. the 57 muslim countries across the world have had a plan for ten years and they want it force all the rest of the world to be in compliance with their religious laws, it's called sharia law and they want even nonmuslims like us to have to follow their laws. i think what i want people to know is that we are not the problem. the problem are the islamists who are demanding that we follow their religious laws, this isn't about being mean to muslims. we're not being mean to muslims. but in this country, we believe in true religious tolerance. if you're a catholic, if you're a jew, if you are a muslim, if you're a hindu, we tolerate everyone and their religious beliefs. it's a very different view and this has very serious consequences because
unfortunately, our state department agreed with something and pushed with the muslim countries, u.n. resolution, 1618 and what it effectively does is criminalize speech and says to to the countries across the world, you can't say anything negative about islam, not any other religion, but! >> you know, it's troubling that in the aftermath of the attacks, first on egypt and then on libya that result inned in the horrible deaths of four americans that the immediate response was we've got to tell everybody they can't say anything that offends the muslims. wait a minute, people say things that offend me all the time as a christian, i don't form storm the city hall or take down the flag. >> look at the speech that radical islamists said about jews and christians. and they wanted to send martyrs into jerusalem and jews should sleep with their eyes open.
they intend to kill jews and defeat the united states. there's been terrible hateful speech coming out from the islamists towards jews towards christians and they're serious about that. again, we aren't the problem. the problem is the evil that's coming from the islamists who intend to not only defeat, but kill jews and christians. >> immediately after the attacks on egypt, presidential candidate mitt romney came forward. issued a strong statement because of the message that came out of the embassy and the immediate aftermath, which he said, look, we're not apologizing, for who we are as americans and we're not going to blame ourselves for the attacks. the press jumped all over him, as did some republican pundits. i was stunned that they-- they were more upset by mitt romney having taken a strong stand and when he did it, than they were about the attacks on burning our flag and desecrating it. help me understand what's the reason that there was a backlash over what he said and
when he said it? >> well, it's pretty simple because the state department that issued that statement was absolutely wrong. here in the middle of all of this carnage they said they were trying to prevent the hmay member in cairo. they quickly said we apologize, we apologize for this movie, we think this is a terrible movie and they thought that would stop everything. it didn't at all. all it did is continue to inflame. mitt romney was exactly right. we don't go out as a country and apologize for these people who are attacking our embassy. we don't apologize for them. they're doing wrong by us. [applause] >> so he was right. mitt romney was exactly right. the problem is, governor, this statement perfectly epitomizes the the current administration. barack obama's policy is that statement because now hillary clinton and barack obama are now abiding by that u.n.
resolution that says, our government won't say anything negative about islam. now, that's pretty big handcuffs that you put on the entire government. >> it really is. there was a letter that apparently came out of egyptian general intelligence service warning that jihady group was going to launch attacks against the u.s. embassies in cairo. the talk about we didn't know anything about this. this letter came out written on 4th of september, published in the jerusalem post on the 11th, the day the attacks took place, would you think if we lacked intelligence we could read the jerusalem post, we might pick it up. i don't mean to be facetious. did this ever get talked about among the members of the select committee on intelligence, the fact that there was this out there. >> it was classified materials. we had a meeting with the cia director and we've been
briefed on the issue and not at liberty to talk about this, as everyone can appreciate and understand, but it's clear, knowing that it's september 11th, we should have beefed up security everywhere, and also, i think it's important that all of us recognize as well, that the one thing that we have to make clear to the world, the obama administration hasn't, that we will never elevate islamic sharia law over the constitution. in other words, we won't abide by sharia, we're going to abide by the constitution. [applause] >> because the constitution provides for freedom of speech and our government isn't to prefer a religion. when our government says we're not going to say anything against islam, that means we're preferring islam. we can't do that as a country. we've got to get back to common sense, we're americans, we have nothing to be ashamed of. stand on the constitution, and we'll never aside by the dictates of sharia law in
america. >> mike: very well said. [applause] >> we're going to talk about all of the events in the middle east that affect us every day, how we live and talk to congresswoman michele bachmann about the impeding fiscal cliff we're about to drive right off of. stay with us, we'll be right back. [applause]. ly the beginning. ♪ ♪ introducing a stunning work of technology. ♪ introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection.
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temporarily cease at the embassy in pakistan tomorrow. the decision to shut things down for a bit. coming in the wake of violent anti-american protests throughout the arab world. in pakistan, protesters were outside the u.s. consulate in karachi, hundreds through a barricade and reaching the outer wall of the consulate. and they fired tear gas and all americans at the consulate are safe. and israel rile prime minister netanyahu with a bombshell washing and iran is six months away from having the most destructive weapon on earth and saying that iran was moving rapidly to complete enrichment of the uranium needed produce a bomb and a nuclear armed iran would pose a threat to the united states and have the military action to stop it. i'm harris falkner, back to huckabee. >> mike: we're back with michelle congresswoman michele bachmann. you were very critical of president obama's actions in
libya back when the revolution was going on. let's talk to that. how do you feel he's handled the aftermath relative to concerns a year ago. >> i did, because i said unequivocally, that it was wrong for barack obama to go in. and he unilaterally took the united states forces and bombing libya. we had gaddafi, no one loves gaddafi, no ot a great guy, but fairly neutral and working on issuings. the problem, we knew we had a lot of al-qaeda in libya, an and lot of people in eastern libya were recruited to kill our troops in iraq. so if you depose gaddafi, the question, who is next, who will take over? that's the problem that we're seg this week in libya. who taking over? it's complete lawlessness and a break down in society and also, a lot of weapons that went missing, when gaddafi was deposed and a lot of those weapons are now across the middle east and could be used against the united states. >> one of the people who was
killed, shaun smith, indicated in an online post that he put out just hours before he was killed, he said we are fearful that there will be an attack. i hope we don't die tonight. that was his specific words, i hope we don't die tonight. and he said that one of the guards had taken photos of the embassy and had taken photos of the safe house, we know this was not just some spontaneous efforts, you don't have rpg's, rocket propelled grenade launchers, and theyeneded up capturing a number of secret documents out of the embassy that included the names of contacts in libya, those people are now vulnerable. going forward, what do we learn? you're on the oversight committee that looks at these issues of intelligence. what do you and other members of the committee say to the intelligence agencies and the military so that this doesn't happen again? >> well, again, what prevents this is strength, and the projection of strength and i think we can wind back to when
barack obama made it very clear that the united states was no longer standing behind israel. and that changed the complete dynamic in the middle east. and when president obama has sent one unmistakable signal after another that we're not going to stand with israel to the point where even our state department won't say that jerusalem is the capital of israel, that sent a signal that we've been the big dog, having israel's back since they declared sovereignty on may 14th of 1948 when the united states took a step back under barack obama's direction that changed the dynamic. we have got to send an unmistakable signal. it's like you punish bad behavior and that's what we need to do right now, punish bad behavior and reward. and i think the president should cancel his meeting with david letterman and beyonce and jay-z and schedule with
benjamin netanyahu and tell the islamists that we would have israel's bank. >> mike: that's a strong statement and i wish that would happen, congresswoman. i need to ask you a quick question about the economy, because we are headed toward what has been described repeatedly as a fiscal cliff that we're going to fall over. what must we do to prevent it? >> it's called tax-mageddon. make sure that we continue the current tax rates as they are. and right ng we need is to increase taxes and we're looking at what we call tax-mageddon on january 1st, it's very quick and it's a disaster. in my district in minnesota we're looking at increase of taxes of the average household, someone making $50,000 a year, joint income, of 4,739 for household. you can't do that.
the average household across the united states has lost that much in income in the last four years, about $4,000, in gas prices have doubled. you say wendy and what's happened with her life. if you have an average household look at increase, we're not just talking about rich people. we're talking average americans, 4,739, very few americans, mike, can afford that now, that increase. and this is going to set us way back and it will mean a certainty of recession so what we have to do is make sure that taxes don't go up and we've got to cut back on all of this wasteful spending, we cannot continue to keep wasteful spending. [applause] >> hopefully you can convince some of your colleagues to go along with you on that. congresswoman it's a delight to have you here. >> thank you. [applause] >> you've heard the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again and then expecting different results. well, after printing money twice before to try to get the economy going and failing,
guess what the fed did again this week? charlie gasperino from fox business network is here to tell us just what they did. [applause]. welcome aboard! [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ male announcer ] now you'll know when to stop. [ hk! ] the all-new nissan altima with easy fill tire alert. [ honk! ] it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪
(applause) >> on thursday, ben bernanke said the government is going to print some more money in an attempt to help the economy recover and create a few more jobs. fox business network's charlie gasperino says the federal reserve chairman is biding time to keep the president from losing his job. charles joins me now. [applause] >> you wrote a pretty powerful article this week that really spoke to the idea that ben bernanke is doing something because obama is doing nothing. >> right. i mean, you know, a lot of
people criticized bernanke's move that he basically threw a life line to the president and tried to help the president's chances of reelection. and i don't think it's quite that, you know, i think what's going on here is the federal reserve chairman knows that fiscal policy, that's the policy of the administration, of any white house, that's the economic policy of bush, it's called fiscal policy as oppose today monetary policy, which he controls. fiscal policy is is not working, what does he have to do? print more money. what is ben bernanke afraid of? he's afraid of a double dip reception, more than that he's afraid of us possibly going into depression. is that totally out of the question? i don't think so. if you look at the numbers coming out. unemployment goes down because the labor market sphinx and census data, the middle class income, lowest since 1995. take the stock market out of it, small, regular people are not in the stock market that's all traders right now. you look the at the numbers and it's pretty scary and that's what bernanke is
worried about. >> mike: now, i think that people need to remember, bernanke was originally report i had by a report, he's a republican and although he's kept by the obama administration. i don't necessarily believe the line that he's doing this to push obama. i think he is trying to figure out, okay, is there anything i can do because it doesn't look like the president is going to do it. let's talk about the consequences. this is a good thing for borrowers. >> so the bank will lend you money. >> that's the point. that's it. the charlie, the banks are not lending money under dodd-frank, people can't get a simple loan. >> it's not just dodd-frank, people are tight with money. they're worried about the future as well. that's the odd thing, never before has so much money been printed in so little time. remember, since 2009, this is qe3 and by the way, other fake qe's, they don't call it qe, they call it operation twist. >> let's make sure our viewers know. sometimes they hear qe1, and
it's not the queen elizabeth cruise ship. >> mike: it's quantity fay tiff easing. >> and might be tinking. >> mike: "titanic" 1, "titanic" 2, "titanic" 3. >> they go in there, because ben runs the bank and they go, banks, we're going to buy bonds from you and ie, expand the balance sheets and give mour money. whi banks have more money they have more money to lend out. why aren't they lending out? guess what? they're worried about the future as well. i'm telling that you when this began in 2009, a lot of smart economists said, listen, never before has so much monetary, what's called monetary surplus been pumped into the economy. we need a v-shaped recovery, as it went down in 2009 and shoot back up. guess what? it hasn't happened. the reason why, banks and businesses are afraid what's coming out of washington. >> mike: how do we get them to loan the money and what do we
do to fix itten. >> this is my opinion, i believe you need a more rational tax code and a lot of business people believe-- forget what about what i say. why rpt businesses hiring, because they're afraid of tax and cap and trade and obamacare doesn't help. >> mike: no, it doesn't. [applause] >> one other point, charlie, to make, while this keeps interest rates low, it keeps the low rates for those who are living off of interest, so, senior citizens in this country, who have depended upon the interest of from, let's say cd's, certificates of deposit, figure 300,000 would have brought in 1500 a month a few years ago. today it brings in $250 a month. and think about this. suppose you don't want to-- this is good for the stock market, and stock investors
and why does the stock market go up? it goes up because all the interest rates, the returns on more, on safer investments, u.s. government bonds, cd's, money market funds all of those rates are down. what happens, sophisticated investors go out and other investors go out and bid up more risky assets and you're forcing people to invest in more risky assets. why should a senior citizen have to roll his or her dice in the stock market? that's what they do. it also creates commodity inflation. oil prices go up when you bring rates down, and so do food prices, a lot of negative consequences. and real question, when does inflation become broad-based not just on a few things? that's when we hit the road and rubber meets the road and guess what you have to do, raise rates and avert recession, there's no other way around it. >> mike: charlie, there's a reason people like to read what you write and you make a lot of sense. you should be in the
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>> this is a fox news alert. i'm harris falkner in new york. the nation's third largest school district bracing for a second week of striking teachers and words moments ago, chicago mayor rahm emanuel reports he will file an injunction immediately to try to end that strike by the union. late today the teachers union voting not to end the strike with a proposed deal. changing job security and evaluations and the continued strike will mean hundreds of thousands of kids will have no classes and some with no place to go during the day, a burden
on the parents. and martin dempsey calling, troops killed by a man dressed in a soldier uniform. four soldiers killed, and the shooter was wearing an afghan uniform. now back to huckabee. [applause] >> even if you don't plan to vote the same way i do, i hope you'll exercise your right to vote. a recent survey found at that people are more likely to vote because their facebook friends are vote are than because of some ad or mail piece that urged them to vote. i'm joining with countries to launch a new fair and balanced event plague where you plan to vote and then send it to your friends and hopefully start a movement across america to get people to vote. here is how to be a part. go to our votes decide.com. it's simple. and you don't have to say how you're going to vote, just help influence your friends in
joining you in voting. it's our vote decides.com. our vote decides.com. well, the president is being highly criticized this week over his reaction to the violence in the middle east. and one of his comments kicks off tonight's version of quotes of the week. >> you don't think that we would consider them an apply, but we don't consider them enemy, they're a new government that's trying to find its way. >> you know, (laughter) >> i've heard that now maybe ten times and i'm utterly baffled whether the president of the united states is sure whether egypt is an eally or enemy and either one, maybe it's because we don't have a foreign policy. but we have an ally, israel, and if and when they have to take out the capacity of iran for nuclear weapons, that
somehow that we're going to stand with that ally and in the meanwhile, if egypt is our ally, how come it is we don't put forceable demands upon them. including threatening to take away the billions in aid they don't if they don't intervene when our flag is desecrateden burned before our very eyes at our emmy because it was stormed by vicious and violent people? well, prime minister benjamin nets netanyahu-- >> listen. >> there's still time. and i say wait for what? wait until when? those in the international community who refuse to put red alarms before iran don't have a moral rate to place a
red light before you. >> mike: i could not agree more with the prime minister. [applause] >> let me be very clear. i believe that benjamin netanyahu may be the churchill of our day. he trul understands the threats that economies not just to the millions of jews who live in israel, but he understands that those threats extend to the middle east arab countries and as well as the united states. iran is not a country that's rational, despite the joint chairmans some time ago, there's nothing rational saying you you want to wipe an entire country off the map and nothing rationality, ko holocaust were wiped out by hitler's reign and nothing rational murdering citizens in the street because they oppose the outcome of an election in your country.
that's not a rational country, that's irrational with the goals. and netanyahu is the only one who seems to see that we're in a dangerous sprays and we can't weep asking, hoping that we say something so polite, accommodating refreshing and they'll back down, you know, you make such sense when you talk sweet to us. good heavens, people, this is a dangerous quarrel with people who want to kill us. >> well, it's september and the the school year has kicked into full year throughout much of the country except in chicago where a teachers strike is forced 350,000 students out of their classrooms this week. and here is national president of the american federation of teachers, randy winegarden's reasoning and she says this, teachers still beaten down throughout the country, they feel beaten down because of austerity, because of tests rather than teacher-driven policies. because after spike this
poverty, because of the demand on them to do more with less and then blame them when that doesn't work out and that's what created the frustration here on the picket line, she said. look, i enforce teachers. i appreciate the fact that most people go out and do what we wouldn't do with four times the month with a chair, a pistol and a whip and the job. it's one of the toughest jobs in america, i wouldn't be where i am today without wonderful teachers in the public school system. and my sister has been a public school teacher for 35 years, it's not about loving and honoring teachers. what we have to understand, in chicago, the average teacher makes $79,000 a year and the average person in chicago makes $40,000 a year and the city offered 16% pay increases over four years. and they wanted 30% pay
increases. do you right now look forward a 30% pay increase in your job? many of you are working for less money than you made a year ago, and the here is the real trouble, they don't want to be evacuated. neither do i. i'd like to know that my show is going to go on and i'm going to get a 30% pay raise even if nobody watches. can i let new on a little secret? if you quite watching this show it's not a pay did he go gags, ill i'm worried about. i'll be out on the street selling hotdogs in manhattan. we get paid for what work we do and how we do it, that includes educators. never right for receivers to go on strike and walk out leaving 350,000 kids to figure out what to do. and now parents with jobs who can't pay rent and put food on their table because the teacher wasn't indicated with a 16% pay increase, that's not
po people are not that sympathetic with the teachers in chicago. 78% of americans identify themselves as christians, but coming up you're going to meet a young man who say that christianity and religion are two very, very different things and he's got the internet buzzing about his videos. youtube sensation joins me next. bob... oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nasty. here's your "honk if you had an affair with taylor" yard sign. looks good. [ male announcer ] fedex office. now save 50% on banners.
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and-- please welcome jeff. good to have you here. >> thank you. [applause] >> you know, some people probably look at you and think of you as a modern day prophet like jeremiah calling out the religious people for their own sins. how do you see yourself in your roll? >> to me, i just see someone who i love jesus and i'm just infatuated with his grace and i think sometimes we can add a lot of players on top of them that then mute and muffle how beautiful he is and i like my gift and say, can we pill some skills back and see who he really is. >> you know, you you're getting at the heart of what faith is and sometimes people equate faith with things that are earthly and temp rorl. one of the shots you took was the at people who makes politics equal to jesus. let's watch this one. >> what if i told you voting republican really wasn't his mission. what if i told you republican
doesn't automatically mean christian and just because blind, ougautomatically-- >> and what, jesus road down the streets on an elephant. >> more than anything that's more idoltry statement. many things that the bible says are good, money, politics, sex, but when we make the good ultimate things, then they become bad things and can we make sure that we're not elevating politics. not getting our worst or satisfaction from it. and our identity put in jesus, and what he's done for us. you can tell whether you made an idol of something, whether or not you demonize it. you can disagree with people, but the minute you idolize something, you're going to demonize it. rather than saying i disagree
with you, let's dialog, chat, engage, truth and pursue truth and instead, if we worship and elevate politics more than they should be we demonize and they're actually the root of event and the problem and i think sometimes that's unhealthy. i don't winter the audience or anyone to listen between us, i think you're absolutely right and i do think that the fact is, a lot of people elevate politics way beyond where it should. a hundred years from now, you know, i won't still be a republican. i still will be a believer. >> exactly. >> and that is what i do understand and i, i get it, i totally get what you're saying. and here is another message that you have getting a message, that we want to see what you think about it. >> knowing judging, just putting on a fake look, because there's a problem if people only know you're a christian by your facebook. >> mike: that's a good one. don't put on a fake look, 'cause people don't want to just know you by your
facebook. >> you're good. you could do one. >> mike: well, you could host the show, but you're not going to get to, okay? talk about the fact that people do sometimes put on this outward appearance in which everything is lovely, but they are he' not lovely inside. >> yeah, i think specifically the passage where jesus addresses in the gospels where he says the faracis, there will be a group of people who everyone thinks speaks for god and the outside of the cup amazing and shiny, but the inside is fifthy, in the old testament, god is not looking for external behavior, but a heart that loves him and per suits, desires for him. >> you look at the conflict between jesus and religion. how how do you define it, should we not going to church. >> in my seattle area, religion has become synonymous on the street more legalistic, and self-righteous, i'm a huge
believer in you have u-church and i love to go to church and church is more an organism, more about body of christ and bride of christ and don't want people-- i never want people to talk badly about christ's wife and i don't think it's going to do-- >> are you shocked by the reaction, 22 million views, my gosh, man. there are rock stars out there that would like to have 22 million people know who they are for everyone's sake. has this shocked you, the reaction? >> completely. i took a bet with roommates we put it out six months ago and betting, dinner on who will get-- on who will get closer to the most views, 2,000 viewers, highest 8,000 and i think we woke up and 1.8 million, and i still owe that guy dinner. he was far away. >> mike: and that's amazing. jeff says he doesn't always know jesus or talk about him. or make you feel bad about
>> this is it true. no one was on to me. a church quid addicted to pornography. i was crate tod have sex and get wasted. i felt a facade of meekness now i know jesus, i boast in my weakness. >> mike: that is an unusual statement for people . >> mike: that's an unusual statement for most people who have never read the bible. boast of your weakness, the whole point of being an american, i'm strong and tough and beat everybody up. and what do you mean you boast in your weakness. >> paul posts in a letter to the corinthians, jesus is
standing you representing you as a christian and kind of representing you on your behave to your father shall you can boast on your weakness and free to fail and you're not representing your is he. there should be christians to some degree should be the most transparent and vulnerable on the earth, we're the only ones that don't represent ourselves. >> mike: did you come to awareness of your own personal faith and relationship to christ late in life or something you had as a kid. >> i kind of crew up and had the cultural idea of christianity, a lot people do in america. god got a hold of my heart in college, poetry is not my full-time job, back home planted a launched a min have in tacoma and god got a hold of me then and i want to go back to the campus and say this is why he's awesome or better than things calling new college. >> mike: jeff, i can understand how this would really touch people who are college and younger people. but has has it been to
provocative people are mad at you and criticize you because of what you said. >> totally, totally. there's been staunch criticism obviously. >> mike: where does it come from? from religious people or-- >> it comes from everywhere, i have to take the criticism and say, what am i getting criticism for? because i'm a christian and jesus said the same think or a criticized because i'm saying something stupid? that's tough to sit in prayer and say, jesus, is this because of i'm misrepresenting you or can i get better, learn, and grow here. >> mike: what's your long-term goal. what do you want to do with the youtube videos? look, 22 million hits puts you in the stratosphere. >> i'm up there with rebecca black and-- >> your message is better than rebecca black's song is ever going to be. tell me what you hope to achieve. long-term goal,uge
heart for discipleship, but my heart is to infect and impact the college demographic to make disciples that go across the nation and infect him with his grace and we launched a one in tacoma. >> the king.tv and we're in the support fund raising and my hope is it will be up and running or maybe even die there. >> it's a remarkable approach you've taken and thrilled to have you here and i commend you, because it's so unique and fresh and original to hear someone taking on all the institutions, including that of organized religion, but not being against it, just being for it to be authentic. >> yeah. >> mike: i think all of us want that. jeff, it's a delight to have you, thank you very, very much. >> (applause) >> and thank you for joining us. i hope your life is authentic because if it's not, jeff will
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