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up. there's a lesson here. don't try to steal a bike from a marathon runner. have a great day. neil is next. >> the fate of your planet rests in your hands. >> i'm going to stop you. >> what do you think? >> neil: the pressure we superheroes feel every day. no wonder we're stuck on the man of steel when leaders the world over seem to have backbones of clay. >> welcome everybody. we are just kidding. 125 million bucks may not seem like much to washington. it spents that much every hour, but that's a lot for a movie considering it's a superman remaining and made that much in its opening weekend. not too shabby. but given the timing of its release, not too surprising. who wouldn't be drawn to a superhero who cares amidst
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leaders who do not seem to have clue. a president's his best defense in scandals is he didn't know, and the smart majority leader whose best defense of the health care debacle it needs fine tuning. this guy seems fine with an immigration bill that might end up having zero security at the border and this gee seems just as fine on giving up big spending cuts. european leaders who just keep taxing. a russian leader who just keeps threatening. and an afghan leader who just keeps shoveling. a syrian leader who just keeps butchering. a north korean leader who just keeps flying. no wonder average americans the world over are hiding. not in their homes. they're in dark movie theaters and not revolting. they're dreaming.
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watching and clearly admiring a fictional hero who gets things done, amidst a world where very real leaders are getting nothing done. not because he is a man of steel. maybe it's because he has principles of steel. that is why he is a hit. he is surrounded by misses. part of what motivation experts call a very real mortal leadership vacuum and it's interesting, we're doing nothing to address that vacuum, are we? >> absolutely not. these guys -- barack obama is running for a popularity contest rather than providing real leadership, which is what people wont on the right and left. >> neil: as a business coach, advising people to move up their career, and opposite they established themselves, you're very big on standing for something. what do you mean by that? >> i want to know what you stand for as a leader. i want to know you stand for the right thing, whether it's popular or not. if it's my company or a parent, i want to know, you will do the
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right thing, management's responsibility is to do that thing right. and the president of the united states is not a manager or a leader. he basically is a bad salesman that overpromises and underdelivers. >> neil: he wouldn't be alone. that has been a pall inflicting our entire global leadership, don't know whether it's a sign of the time wes don't address our problems or keep punting, but it's gotting pretty bad. >> like this lost art of leadership, you have to be popular, you need everybody's support. i need everybody to believe in what i'm doing. you need to sell it, this is the right thing to do. this is where we're going, this is the direction, and this is why. i need you onboard or you're not onboard. but you can't get everybody's support. the only thing he has been a leader on is obamacare, and i'm glad he sold it like that.
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>> neil: he was very passionate about it but part of the passion is lacking in admitting whatting wrong about it and i'm wondering when you see the likes of harry reid and max bachus and other senators who were big champions of the program, admit there are problems. whether that goes far enough. >> and now look at things like benghazi. still don't know what happened. snowden, is he a detroityear or hero? how can the president of the united states allow headlines to go on like that and the american people nobody what he is. it confused people and the american people need leadership. >> neil: grant, thank you very minute. a very good superperspective on this, barack obama's approval numbers dropping eight points. larry said that is a clear sign the scandals are taking a toll. what do you make of what is happening here and do these declining numbers indicate frustration with the president
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on how he i handling these scandals. >> he has a case of the second term blahs. superman never has the blahs, but -- >> neil: he does. he is always troubled by -- and he is a superhero, and i always feel like saying, you're a superhero. but i digress. go ahead. >> you really digressed there, neil, got me totally -- >> neil: sorry. >> part of it is superman's faster than a speeding bullet. government is as slow as a sea slug, and a second term administration, i guarantee you, president obama is not going to get very much passed. we can see it already. he has run out of steam and we're only six months into a four-year term. >> neil: do you think we get ahead of our ourselves, whenever you see scandals and how they pile up, i've had some prominent democrats who say six months from now they won't be issues. do you agree with that? >> i doubt it. look, some of it may fade but
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you have a multiple choice scandal here. you can pick one and keep it going for a few months, and, look, some of them are long-term debates that we're going to have about surveillance, about the irs, some of these things will last a long time. i don't think all of them will fade. some will still be present in politics for the mid-term elections. >> neil: do you think the no drama obama thing is beginning to work against him? an issue we're going to be exploring here. that as a leadership style, that very style, is not getting too agitated or acting up in public, which might be admirable on some levels, is costing costing the t dearly at this time on these levels with these scandals. >> he is going to have to show some fire and he has 0 show fire on scandals perhaps by firing some people. that is how you deal with scandles. once you clearly know who is responsible, you get rid of them. you get rid of the dead wood and show you're in charge.
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other presidents have done this in the first term and second term. obama seems very hesitant to do so. again, when you have the second term blahs, they're catching. congress can catch it. your base can catch it. you don't want that to health. >> neil: do you think this escalates to the point where people just don't think he is up to snuff? looks like he is overwhelmed by the events and it's hardly heroic. >> if that happens neil it will happen because of the mode term elections. if he loses the senate, and if they lose ground in the, how then you're looking at two years just waiting, treading water. so, yeah, it could happen, and the most likely time for it to happen is in his last two years. >> neil: we shall watch closely. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> neil: here's the problem. too many problems and too many tin ears ignoring the problem.
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the president obama plans a $60 million luxury family vacation trip to africa. more than i spend with my family in disney word, and congress that talks of stopping spending but off ares not much more than lip service to entitlement reform. all numbers going down. monica and melissa and steven. spell it out. how bad is this getting? >> your first guest was talking about the idea that people look to washington and want to see someone they believe is sincere. he has been a liar and when you look around washington right now it feels like there's no one you can trust. talk about the poll numbers. the president in april of 2009, 73% thought he was honest and trustworthy. right now it's 48%. what does that mean? at an impasse and generally gridlock is good in most cases. i'm a small government gal. but this time around, the cash registers just racking 'item
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after item as they're sitting there doing nothing. in this one case gridlock is not good because we have a lot of things to in fix before we go but. >> as the leadership style, whether he has done anything right or wrong -- the president -- has an aloof style credited with, at betts he didn't know this stuff was going on. now coming back to hurt him, more than if he were to admit to knowing exactly what he was going on. he can't win. >> all of the scandals, irs, doj, nsa, bober bencare falling apart, the seeds were planted in the first term. in 2008 wanted to talk about transforming the nation. you can't goo that without breaking heads so all of these things are the logical result of what he intend to do all along. the problem here is by being so dispassionate, so disconnected from the issues, as melissa laid out, and the problems all of these scandals, it leaves the impression of one of two things. either really deep corruption is
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going on here or profound incompetence and neither is go for any presence. >> i remember at the time when we were looking at president bush and not too long ago about how he handled the iraq war when things got bad very quickly and the criticism of the press he was aloof and didn't appreciate the fact meshes didn't appreciate we are were getting bogged down. now you have a democratic president embroiled in the same issues. different crisis. but the same issue, not appreciating the severity of what surrounds them. is that a fair criticism? >> i think it ills. i 'normally like the whole no drama obama persona he projects. that gives a lot of people confidence. most of the time. but there are types when you have to show some sort of sense of urgency. there is several big problems here, and i think if the president doesn't get his arms around them they're going to define his second term. going to define his legacy.
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has to project that he is in charge and that he can get his arms around these things. i want to say that there's the other side of this. every problem to some extent is an opportunity. so the president actually has number of big opportunities here, but he has to prove he has the leadership skill to take charge and do something about it. he has to take some really big steps here, like one of your previous guests said, maybe have to fire some people but has to make some really -- kneel neil but he is not, and time is awasting. maybe that's the move he has to make. >> goes back to the original thing you want a president who actually stands for something and you don't want someone who looks like the nine-year-old who just got caught in the kitchen and is covered in cookie crumbs and is giving you the technicality i didn't take the cookie from the cookie jar, it was laying on the counter so i'm not lying to you.
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>> neil: dug up that old polaroid photo of me. that was not real. that was not how it went down. >> did you lie about where the cookie came from or were you clean? i ate the cook. >> i'm sorry, give me my punishment. >> neil: it wasn't a single cookie to that point, all seriousness, whether the problem here is not appreciating the severity, what is at stake here, and if you do appreciate it, you're giving mixed signals to the public. so you have a case where fbi director mueller is saying this great -- have to get to the bottom of the irs scandal, and not a singlele one of those conservative groups targeted were interviewed. so it begins to get people thinking, wait a minute. you said this was a big deal. you don't really act that way. >> when i worked with president nixon in the last years of his life. one of the things he said to me watching the clinton scandal, in a bout of frustration, why did i go through the damn fire if nobody is going to learn from me? the lesson here is that presidents win -- when the crap
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comes down you call a press conference, maybe a primetime press conference and lay out al the facts, start to fire people and you hold everybody accountable, including yourself. the problem with that is that only works when you're not guilty. so the question about whether this president -- why he hasn't been more pro-active, i think he is answering his o -- >> neil: could be he hasn't gotten to bottom of it. you argue there's a lot of get a handle on here but time its awasting. >> itch i could speak directly to president i'd say, schedule a weekly meeting or a weekly prime time telecast where you teal the american people all the changes your making but you have to have the changes to talk about if they're going to do that, and he has to take those steps, good tot do something big, but people really are losing confidence across the board. in their government. the president, the congress, democrats republicans. something really big has to be
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done here, and whether the president does it or not. that's how he's going to be thought of in history. >> neil: let it by marked this is when steven said this is he hindenburg. which you didn't say but entertaining. it was all a lie? fox on top of something that never went down. the notion that all the attacks on tea party gripes war oreck stated from ohio. more like a few hundred miles east, the land of the budget. [ stewart ] we've never cooked anything like this before.
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>> to the democrat now saying, oh, i told you so. >> offensive after a while when after the inside the beltway types are trying to pawn this off as being done by a rogue agent in cincinnati. this thing requires more than a rogue agent, i think. it requires an evil genius and i
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don't think there's any around here the last time i looked. >> neil: that democrat was like because the former irs supervisor in washington just admitted to personally scrutinizing tea party applications far from cincinnati. more like washington, dc. the dusty rhodes. you have been vindicated and getting all sorts jumping on you saying, wait a minute. how do you feel now. how widespread this was, is? >> well, neil, great to be with you again. it's nice to be right. it's nice to be right. but i don't -- it wasn't exactly a tough call. and i think that anybody who loves their country has to be sick about this. this entire thing. it's another example, i think, of the big guys trying to blame the little guys for their screwups, and it's, as they said, it's offensive. >> you know what seemed to happen? you were closer to this fire than i was or will ever be. a lot of the indians were
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getting ticked off at the chief for throwing them under the wagon. >> i think that might be some of it. yes. i think that's right. but the whole thing just is real awful for people who want to trust their government, and most americans do want to trust their government. some -- and i think that monica nailed it. out got to step up, you got say, look, this is my problem and i'm here to fix it and i think your popularity numbers would go right back up. but i just -- this is just the way government seems to operate these days. and you have to wonder who is advising people to act like this? that's the thing you wonder about. >> neil: the bunker mentality, a point you and i addressed last time you stopped by, and you do talk about people who admit a mistake, john kennedy, couple months into his term, admitted that he was the chief in charge in the bay of pigs fiasco and inherited that when stories said he went through with plans that
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were concocted in the prior administration. nevertheless he took full responsibility, addressed the nation on it, and his poll numbers win up. i know this is apples and oranges but does get back to a bigger point and i wonder if it's too late for this administration the irs matter, and that is taking responsibility for what seemed like widespread systemic abuses. what do you think? >> i think -- i would hope that it shouldn't be factor. it's time too do the right thing. you're right about president kennedy and he could have blamed the cia, and probably would have made it stick on that. but he took responsibility. i am reminded of harry truman, who always used to say, the buck stops here. and that is the way he operated his office. i hope it's not too late. and i don't think it's a question as much of popularity as of responsibility that those of news public office have to allow people to trust their government and -- i think the
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mistakes too many elected officials think they have to come off as perfect and there aren't any of us who are. >> neil: thank you very much. the fallout is cheapening the debate.
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the dow rising up intoso patients can save up on health care. a number of doctors are ditching the health insurance system and going it alone. the family physician will explain how this works. doctor, very good have you. explain how you're saving your patients money and what this involves. >> absolutely. on the simplest terms, insurance ads red tape, government involvement, as red tape, and so he who cuts the most red tape wins.
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if we can simplify the process of delivering care we can vastly increase the value and affordability. >> so how does that work, then? do you direct bill your patients and have them deal with the insurance and as a result that cuts out a lot of the administrative nonsense for you? >> precisely. >> how too your patients respond to that? up to now they had to submit an insurance form and pay a deductible. now they might have to pay up front and everything. >> now most of our patients have a high deductible plan where the insurance will not cover the first 2 to $5,000 they spend. but with our membership middle they can maximize the amount of health care they get and minimize the cost. so we work with patients directly on a monthly membership, like a gym so unlimited home visits, work visits, office visits, and what we call technology visits. we also don't have copays for anything in our office. any procedure we can do in the clinic, like ekgs, biopsies,
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are included free of charge and we run our own pharmacy out of the office so we can get medications at wholesale pricing and labs at wholesale pricing so we save our patients more than their membership costs and that membership is $10 a month for kids and 50 tuesday a month for most adults. so we designed this to be very affordable for the masses. >> neil: doctor, your too savvy a businessman besides being a pretty good. we'll keep that on the hush hush. but is there anything that you're doing now, doctor, that -- regardless of the dramatic results, saving your patients will run afoul of what obamacare and its proponents what you to be doing? >> excellent question. directly no, doesn't run afoul of obama care. several doctors worked very hard to insert into the health reform bill a claw that allows for direct primary care practices like ours to be a legal option
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under the health reform bill though best case scenario is a major medical plan wrapped around a primary provider like our clinic to save the mask amount of money and still provide the maybes amount of care. so this is a legal option under the health reform bill and also something that most acos may have to rely upon if they want to minimize costs. so moving forward i think this is the salient model for family providers, pediatricians, doctors across the country. >> neil: might bev the model. >> our ability to decrease the cost of insurance by 30 to 50% eliminates the need for obamacare style regulation, because woe can make health insurance affordable again. >> doctor, thank you. best of luck with this. what a concept, saving money. >> watch howl legals deal with it. when the can't cross the wall they just move to the place where there is no wall and now it's driving texas texans up a
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which seals the argument for my next guest that sealing the border works to keep up invited guests out. the arizona sheriff paul babeau. remarkable correlation here. >> the path of least resistance. human nature. we saw this 15-17 years ago in california when they, if you remember, the difficulties they were having in california, they were the main effort. there were hundreds and thousands of thousands of illegals coming across the border as well as the narco issues the trafficking of drugs from the cartels. when they started to secure the border -- i was a young army lieutenant at the time helping south of san diego, north of tijuana, build double barrier, 14-foot wall core gaited steel no climb fence, and the effort worked. all that drug trafficking and illegal immigration shifted to the east, towards arizona, and we've been the main effort, and so now with more resources, more
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border patrol agents-additional infrastructure, we're still not totally built but there's such a concentration of effort there that it is expressing itself, the path of least resistance is texas, new mexico and still arizona is still the main effort. >> the bottom line is that if you make it difficult for someone to cross the border, at least they'll seek out areas of least resistance. but the argument against building a wall, or even something electronic that would be akin to a wall, is that it gets very pricey and illegal immigration bill they hope to make law, that is the sticking point on that it would cost billions at a million, many continue tens of billions. do you buy those figures, sheriff, and is that any rope not to include enforcement right up front while we're legalizing illegals? >> great point. that is the crux of the opposition's argument. i ask back in retort, what is --
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is the price of our national security in what is the price of our national sovereignty? to protect not just with the illegal exception now we have 11 to 20 million illegals here. the drug cartels of mexico. 60,000 people have been killed in mexico because of the cartel wars and they come up through the border, largely uninhibited, and then you look at all the other expense, with the military forces around the world protecting other countries, why can't we spend at the gao, government accountability office says, $3.1 billion to secure the border? and that is not a price too heavy to pay, and it finally addresses the issue, let's secure the border first, and force all the laws. then and only then can we talk about what the gang of eight would like to do, the path to citizenship, or some form of amnesty. >> neil: we'll watch it closely. this is always a sticking point. see how it goes. thank you very much.
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>> take a look at that. keep the party going. stocks taking off early on, a brief fall but by day's en, back to where they are, ending a day with an across the board advance
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that echoed across the globe. everybody hanging on the federal reserve continuing to do what it's been doing, providing nicotine to these markets. we'll know for sure by wednesday when ben bernanke and his buddy can wrap up a meeting when we will be told been when the interest rates are over. >> what happened today, the report came out that -- most people know the fed is going to taper its buying of bonds, putting money into the economy. that's is what is going to happen. and -- >> neil: when you say taper, so not 85 billion. >> 7 5. and cautiously say if things get worst we're back to buying again. i think that's is what the say. most economists agree on that. it's interesting -- this is my one, -- i think the fed, even if it tapers a little bit, the
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chances are the stock market will keep going up. i only say that people should be cautious about the future. here's one reason. wall street is trying to sell this there are notes from goldman sachs, larry fink, meredith whitney, a big bull. they're trying to sell this market. i only worry that when wall street says, listen, don't worry too much, keep buying stocks, as an average investor, play attention to it. and i can give you an interesting bullish scenario. the fed does taper, the economy is getting better, markets start reflecting the economy, corporate profits, earnings are strong, and low inflation and guess whatting are as they taper, the pop the bubble in the bond market. there's a bubble in the bond market. particularly the more risky bonds. looking for yield and return. that money somehow comes back to the stock market. that's the possibility. >> neil: that's been the hope. not always consistent that money
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hat leaves bonds goes to stock market. we're gold. what if the fed were to say the clearest terms not only are we tapering down but we're going to continue to taper down in the months to come. that would imply something stronger than just ebbing a little bit. >> here's the thing. the mind of the market. we keep talking about that. forget about rationality and fundamentalled. remember the movie backdraft. report deniro looking for the mind of the fire. the market is fixated on fed spending. even if he says something more than tapering, the market could sell off significantly. >> neil: something else that might or might not rattle. dropping the rating on bonds, as low as you can go. not a big so shock when the city all but declared bankrupt.
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>> or trying to avoid bankruptcy, stiffing bondholders,. >> neil: paying them pennies on the dollar. what do -- >> that's a workout. bankruptcy would be really bad. when you start that -- that's a legal term and ended certain -- certain legal things kick in. >> neil: they don't have the money to pay -- >> they want the bond holders to agree to something like ten cent on the dollar. >> neil: even bond holders can say i'll take my chances. where is this going? >> detroit is a basket case. i was critical of meredith whit by the when she talked about mew minimals felting. -- municipalities, and you have places like detroit -- they have the highest tax rate in michigan. both person income tax and property tax. they have no business, no economic growth. it sounds like greece, and it's
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in detroit. here's the thing. this has been going on for 20 years. i mean, if anybody knew there was one basket case out there ready to implode it was detroit, and you look at other cities that did the opposite of detroit. you look at philadelphia in the early to mid-1990s. i worked as a bond buyer there. they were heading in that direction. new york city had a fiscal collapse in the '70s, bailed out by deposit management from the state, from the. city, ed koch. then rudy julian any came insuring of rudy giuliani came in, cut taxes. >> neil: thank you very much. forget where the irs started targeting. my next guest says it's time to put a stop to the entire agency for good.
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>> americans for fair taxation, it's clear where the group stanes. what kind of reaction have you gotten? >> we have gotten a lot of pretty positive reaction. people are pretty fed up with the system. and it's not just the irs. the irs is sort of the focal point right now. but people know that the income tax system and production taxes are -- at it broken. >> neil: you know, it does come at a time when a lot of people are saying, i thought the information i gave you, irs, was sacred, you'd hang on to it and wouldn't share it with anybody and that has been proven wrong. so, you might be coming at a good time to rates the case, how -- raise the case how reliable is the agency and how much good does it do, besides getting into healthcare do you think you have any chance of abolishing the place? >> we have to start with the
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political question. right? we have to start with this issue, do we tax production or do we tax consumption? do we tax people under wages and on their investments or do we tax them on how much they consume? and that battle has to be fought, and that is ultimately electoral battle, and our plan is to bring this into the primary election cycle for congress. all of this stuff with the irs is something that's been enabled and set up by congress. congress is responsible for this. the irs are just following through. yes, you see abuses, and those are getting our attention, but we have to fiction the fundamental system, which is -- >> neil: could you have the same risk if it was taxing -- re-assigned to do other things. doing things it should be doing, a more productive way of going, they would just as easily corrupt that process? >> well, the idea of a consumption tax is the way to go. without any taxes on production,
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the opportunity is dramatically lowered. people will always try to figure ways around the system. but what we have is a situation where we don't have enough jobs, we don't have enough production, and we have too much consumption, and we're taxing one and giving the other a free pass and that's got to stop. and ultimately that responsibility lives with congress. you don't have to have income taxes and payroll taxes. the two most vibrant economies in the world right now run with no income tax and no capital gapes taxes. those are florida and texas. two of the 20 largest economies in the world and they run without that tax base. we can do that congress can switch it but we have to get rid of the 16th amendment and stop congress from taxing production. >> neil: all right. we'll watch closely. interesting argument. you express it real well. just because you need a license to drive doesn't mean you need an i.d. to vote. arizona did not distinguish.
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before you can't be asked, the supreme court strikes down a law that requires proof of citizenship to vote. opponents call it an attack on immigrants, did they get it right? attorney rebecca rose lynn land says they got it right. rebecca, you think the supremes did the right thing. explain. >> in this situation, neil, we have a law in arizona that
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required people, what the supreme court justices said was too much. they said federal voter laws are what is required. the states cannot additionally add things to a requirement because it is restrictive. what arizona wanted to do was proof of citizenship, not just a form signed, which is what the federal laws require, are you a citizen, yes, no, arizona wanted further proof, either a birth certificate, driver's license, passport, something that would prove citizenship. the supreme court said let the federal government make these decisions, the federal government has decided enough is enough, the paperwork that we require is enough. arizona has gone too far. so within the context of the federal laws, they think the supreme court got it right. >> maybe so. monica, in new jersey, they need proof i can vote, i show a
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license with my name and image from a much thinner period, but in other words, it is me. and what is so wrong about that? regardless of what's going on with federal law, new jersey just wants to make sure, my town and my state, that i can vote. >> right, neil. and let's look at this from a very basic position. arizona has two issues it wanted to deal with, illegal immigration and voter fraud. wasn't trying to step all over the federal government or cause any kind of problems. it was looking for a solution to help it with our state's problems, the voter fraud and illegal immigration. all arizona wanted to do was just add one more requirement on top of the federal form that all you have to do is sign it under oath. they just wanted you to show some type of identification, whether it is a passport, a birth certificate. >> i don't know why they have a problem with that. >> rebecca, do you think there's
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anything wrong with asking people to provide something where they go to vote, much as you would a license to drive? >> of course, but that's not the issue. when you go to vote in arizona as in every other state, you have to prove you are yourself by identification. that's not what was decided at the supreme court level. what was decided today was additional proof of citizenship, not proof of who you are. >> by and large, you have that proof. >> no, no, no. the license is not what arizona wanted. arizona wanted proof of citizenship. >> that's not true. >> i think it would be good enough. monica, go ahead. >> they do want proof of citizenship because, neil, it is not fair to allow people to just come into the polling places and vote if they cannot prove they have the right to vote. arizona wanted that proof. that proof of citizenship. you get it in a driver's license, with a birth certificate. >> wait. >> there's nothing wrong with requiring that you are an american and you have the right
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to vote. >> nothing wrong with that. but the federal government forms require that you check yes or no. are you a citizen or not and someone signs it. the federal government has decided that is enough. arizona cannot go further. it is a federal law, elections and voting is a federal decision. >> the supremes sided with you, rebecca. we will see where it goes from here. monica, thank you very much. you know why this guy is such a hit, not because he is made of steel.
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>> start of the show, there's a reason the man of steel packed them in. we are desperate, desperate for any leader to just step up. that doesn't mean he has to have x-ray vision. just vision will do. someone is that sees the big picture, and gets the little stuff. the little stuff like telling the truth and sticking to your word. but you don't have to be made of steel to do that. just showing something approaching steel resolve and you're on the way to that. my mom used to say just do the things you say, and she was no super hero, just an irish immigrant who believed like her italian husband at that words matter. backing them up matters more. that's the essence of true justice and the american way. it used to be our parents and grandparents' way. we have lost our way. sometimes we contort ourselves to be something that we are not. most folks are drawn to those that are honest, real, themselves. it doesn't take a super hero to
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admit a series of scandals is wrong, just a human being to say how do you plan to make things right, like it doesn't take a guy with a cape to stand for a cause. any lowly politician counts if he stands for anything, like the one that says he will cut spending and does, or discovers the excess waste i have a health care law and admits he goofed. human beings are very forgiving. we all make mistakes. what we find irksome are those that claim they do not. it doesn't mean we want idiots for leaders, just that we admire leaders that make idiotic mistakes so they don't compound the mistakes. they are flocking to theaters to flock to see a hero standing for something, it is not at all surprising, given the worldwide politicians doing nothing. that's why my super hero resonates. a lot of you will take the hero,
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even your lumpy one, anywhere you can find them. fox news alert. i am eric bolling with andrea tantaros, dana perino, bob beckel and greg gutfeld. this is "the five." we are about to show you the first time, for the first time a world exclusive interview with the father of ed snowden who blew the whistle on the nsa snooping scandal. he reached out to someone he trusted, that happens to be me. after days of talking and e-mailing with mr. snowden, he agreed to sit down and talks. what follows is a man deeply concerned with the safety of his son and a man deeply con


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