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stallone in this guy. this guy should be from brooklyn not central florida. the trial continues, so does our coverage with our colleagues next hour. martha: we'll see you back here on monday -- or tomorrow, how about that. we'll be here wednesday. bill: wednesday, yes. jenna: brand-new stories and breaking news. the george zimmerman murder trial underway right now, bill and martha were just talking about it. we heard new testimony from the lead investigator to questioned zimmerman the night he shot trayvon martin. we'll bring you the dramatic new developments, get you caught up on that. growing questions as we learn that a ten-year-old girl whose family successfully fought to get her an adult lung transplant didn't have just one transplant last month but two. we'll tell you more about this story. and he's one of just five surviving quadruple amputees, veterans from the wars in afghanistan and iraq. the remarkable recovery of
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travis mills. a great story about determination. it's all "happening now." central casting we're not. the lead investigator, the bleed detective who really investigated the fatal shooting of trayvon martin back on the stand today, and his testimony has been one to watch. we are glad you are with us, everybody, i'm jenna lee. >> reporter: i'm rick folbaum in for jon scott. chris serino is answering questions. today's proceedings beginning with a key decision by the judge. jenna: very interesting the judge throwing out part of yesterday's cross-examination by the man on your screen there defense attorney mark o'mara who -- where detective serino stated that he thought that zimmerman was a truthful witness. that testimony has rick just mentioned was officially stricken from the record. prosecutors are also playing
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more of the taped police interviews that took place with zimmerman. let's go ahead and take a listen to what o'mara is asking the detective right now. >> and when the suggestion is why didn't trayvon martin have blood on his hands, does blood dash is blood susceptible to graph virginia thee as well. >> yes, sir it is. >> so if he gets smashed in the nose and is thrown on the ground which way is the blood going? >> towards the ground. >> back down his throat. >> back down his throat. >> and only when he stands up is h it going to come out of his nostrils. >> yes, sir. >> which is after he is no longer, mounted by trayvon martin. >> typically, yes, sir. >> okay. break my nose, put me on the ground my blood is going backwards into my throat, right. >> theoretically, yes. >> and would not be available to be on trayvon martin's hands at that point because there is no blood outside the nose, correct? >> correct. >> i'm not going to approach you like he did, but basically first
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of all, if he's holding him down could that be literally momentary that he's holding him down and that mr. zimmerman is trying to get back up? yes, sir. >> could the attempt to suffocate literally be momentary as well? >> yes, sir. >> mr. could it even be a sleeve, an arm or a palm or anything that could have given mr. zimmerman that impression? >> yes, sir. >> thank you, your honor. >> thank you. >> i think i'm only going to ask two or three questions. >> thank you. >> may only ask one. right now it could be raining outside, right? >> yes, sir. >> and that would be pure speculation on your part, would it not? >> yes it would. >> thank you. >> mr. serino you're excused from the courtroom but you're subject to being recalled. thank you very much. ladies and gentlemen, i think we'll take a 15-minute recess, if you'll please put your notepads face down on the chair,
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and follow the deputy back into the jury room. jenna: all right taking a little breather here in the courthouse in sanford, florida, just wrapping up the testimony there with the lead investigator, as we mentioned. phil keating has been watching this all morning for us, as he has each and every day of the trial. phil, catch us up if you would. the lead prosecutor on the redirect really hammering home this profiling theory. what does that mean? >> well, remember prior to the trial the judge, debra nelson said they could not in opening statements use the term racial profiling. however profiling in many other ways was certainly allowed. that is what bernie chris hondros the prosecutor was trying to get detective serino on the stand to testify to this morning, that george zimmerman profiled trayvon martin based on zimmerman's experience with previous crimes in his neighborhood. he was neighborhood watch captain and his usage of terms,
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including punks and some other ones. detective serino today did not out right say zimmerman profiled martin, only that based on the circumstances one could conclude that. the prosecutor also replayed for the jury zimmerman's recreation video that he made for police the day after the shooting. that is of him walking through the neighborhood basically explaining how his version of what had happened went down. de la rionda pointing out that addresses on townhouses were quite visible, yet zimmerman with police claimed he didn't see any. the prosecutor also pointed out that when police first asked zimmerman what led up to the shooting, h reply was about a lot of previous crimes and why zimmerman started neighborhood watch. >> you recall hearing that in terms of investigator singleton asking him, the defendant, about what was going on and he's stating, as he stated there, that they always get away? >> yes, sir. >> do you recall that?
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>> yes. >> didn't he say that to the nonemergency operator also, but he used more colorful language, pardon my language he used the. [bleep] always get away, correct? >> correct. >> and those words were uttered within minutes of the actual shooting, weren't they? >> yes, they were. >> reporter: zimmerman claims he was being pummeled 25 to 30 times by trayvon martin leading up to the gunshot, but bernie de la rionda did ask serino was there any evidence of any blood -- zimmerman's blood on trayvon martin's hands? the answer was no who. jenna: that's what we saw at the end there the ending questioning from o'mara on that and the follow-up as well from the prosecutors. there was also an issue today, phil, about and we've heard this phrase, what trayvon martin was quote up to that night. why was that an issue this morning? >> well it's been a big part of
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the demand to have zimmerman arrested in the first place over the past 16 months. benjamin crump the attorney for the family always was saying trayvon martin was doing nothing wrong he was simply walking back to the fiancee of his father's house where he was staying. inside the courtroom george zimmerman basically looking as he has throughout much of this trial, showing not much of a reaction, as the lead detective questioned and questioned and answered the questions from both sides in a very dueling manner. and then the prosecutor boiled it down to the victim, 17-year-old trayvon martin, and what exactly he did or did not do to provoke anything. >> was there any indication that trayvon martin, trayvon benjamin martin, the young man i think 20 days past -- had just turned 17, was committing a crime that evening, sir? >> no, sir. >> was there any evidence that that young man was armed? >> no, sir.
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>> reporter: however, on the re-cross defense attorney mark o'mara did elicit serino to get back to the moment of the gunshot, and the evidence on the hoodie as well as the bullet hole in trayvon martin's chest eliciting that there were burn marks on the hoodie, showing that it was weighed down because of that arizona fruit drink in his pocket that was full, so that provided weight coming down. so the burn mark on the hoodie was different than the gunshot evidence inside the skin of trayvon martin, basically revealing that trayvon martin would not have been up right at the time, but would have been leaning over zimmerman, perhaps bolstering zimmerman's claim that he was on his back and truly was in fear of his life. jenna: again the court,a 15 minute recess right now. we'll rejoin the court when it takes the case back up again. phil, back to you in florida as we hear more. thank you so much.
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>> and obviously having listened to phil a lot of testimony to break down with our legal panel. lis wiehl is a fox news legal analyst. doug burns is a former federal prosecutor. good to see you both. you'll be with us for the next couple of hours. the judge's decision to strike down the testimony of the detective. >> it was a correct decision. >> a correct decision. >> yes. >> he was offering his opinion. >> about the credibility and truthfulness. you can't do that. that is for the jury to decide. they are the only people to decide it. it's a question for the jury. she was absolutely right in striking that down. the bell has been running in some sense but they can't argue that in closing argument. that take the argument away from both the prosecution and/or the defense. >> you say the bell has been running because even though the judge told the jury disregard it. >> you know once you've heard it you've heard it. >> once you've heard it you've heard it. a lot of analysts doug have said that the prosecution has really been having a very tough time
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gaining any kind of traction in this case, that the witnesses that they have presented so far have proved to be at least according to analysts more helpful to the defense. did anything that you have heard today, has anything that you've heard today helped that to turn that around? >> maybe a little in the sense that he -- their best card, but it's actually somewhat of a legal red herring, their best card is that he called in to a nonemergency 911 and he said this person is there and i'm going to follow them. and he said, we don't need you to do that. so jurors coming in off the street are saying, wait a minute, he initiated this. and but for, which actually is a legal term, but for causation, which isn't always the correct causation, but for what he did none of this would that happened much that's what they have to overcome. the way they overcome it is by saying, he can follow him, that doesn't mean he's precluded from using self-defense if the other person initiates an attack, but where it becomes fuzzy and gray is what's the difference between initiating it by following him,
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or initiating the contact? >> fuzzy and gray is always good for you defense guys, it's not great for prosecution. >> that's right. >> prosecution 101, this case has been followed for a longtime. it's really hard for me to believe the prosectors have been bringing in case and they wouldn't have interviewed their witnesses a little bit more, that they wouldn't have something more. it's too early to second-guess this. has the prosecution been having a tough time? he why, absolutely. but it's not over yet. >> i also wanted to say, rick, this is interesting, one of the witnesses, the forensic expert came in and everybody is hanging on every word and he's like, we cannot determine who was screaming. >> on the 911 call. >> then he turns around and says but a family member might be in a better position, time out which would have been great. and there is something called listener by as which gives the defense a field day in summation to say they are biased. >> the prosecutors in order to get their second-degree murder conviction, they have got to convince the jury that zimmerman
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acted with ill will or a depraved mind. >> that's why the prior 911 call, even the nonemergency calls are so important. he snapped that night, that that was it, he was angry already he was predisposed to being angry and taking out that anger and that anger happened to be this victim. that's what the prosecution has to argue. >> but for not everyone has been to law school, so you're going to stick around and when we come back in a couple of minutes some legal 101 questions about the law and about what the burden is on both the prosecution and what the defense is trying to do as well. we'll talk with our panel as the morning goes on. jenna, over to you. jenna: thank you, counsel. we'll all get up to date on that. the obama administration warned us that automatic federal spending cuts would cause dire consequences for the entire country. we'll tell you the real impact of the cuts, that's just ahead. and as we were just talking about and you just saw, a quick recess at the george zimmerman murder trial after the lead police detective on the case took the stand. coming up, more live coverage when testimony continues.
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jenna: welcome back. we are four months into the automatic federal spending cuts known as sequestration, and despite the obama administration's warnings of dire consequences for the country a recent check on those cuts shows the impacts may not have been quite as severe as predicted. carl cameron is live in washington with more on this. carl, it wasn't just the obama administration. a lot of folks were warning about government services being cut and what this was going to mean for uts. us. what is the reality. >> some government agencies say it has been a bit of a strain. tk*efpl krats made it sound like the 85 billion dollars in spending cuts would decimate government services. we were warned by democrats and the administration that as many as a million federal employees would be furloughed for up to a month without pay and it would hit the military, law enforcement, the fbi, border security, dea, education programs, health services, virtually every part of the government especially air travel
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because air traffic controllers would face furloughs too. in late april when airport traffic really got bad right before a week-hong kong alrecess for easter lawmakers with incredible speed lifted the mandatory across the board rule and let the faa shift money from other accounts to keep the controllers on the job. other agencies did similar things according to "the washington post." instead of furloughing fbi and federal prison staff, the just this is department used money from programs that had neither never begun or ended without using most of their budget. the workers were mostly allowed to stay on the job. they cut some maintenance programs, avoided bonuses and general built tightening and lo and behold it wasn't who nearly as bad as everybody thought it would be. jenna: more automatic cuts are on the way. >> in three months the government has to pass next year's spending bill. if they don't there is going to be a government shut down. there will need to be another $109 billion in mandatory across the board cuts as you the
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so-called sequester but that is going to have to get done, democrats are already beginning to warn how horrible the consequences are going to be. the problem is it's the very same predictions they made eight, nine months ago about this now four-month-old sequester and the problems haven't happened as they were predicted to do so. jenna: let's see what happens this time around now that we've been through it once before. carl, thank you. rick: testimony is about to resume in the george zimmerman murder trial in florida after a quick 15 minute recess. you can see zimmerman back in court along with his defense team. we will continue to monster testimony in the trial and bring you highlights, plus analysis coming up. also new reaction after a young girl received a second set of lungs, donors provided ten-year-old sarah phurpb murnahan with lifesaving gifts that are in sort supply. some why people say that crossed ethical barriers the second transplant. a stor storean ied took both of
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jenna: new information following the operation of sarah murnahan, a ten-year-old little girl who received a second lung transmanslaughter last month after she received the first adult set of lungs that actually
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failed. patti ann is live in the newsroom. >> 4 a heartbreaking story. last month the ten-year-old received her first lung plant. the lungs were from an adult. kids under 12 are usually only eligible for lungs from another child you but her parents had sued and a judge ruled that sarah could be placed on the adult transplant list. it was a controversial decision with some medical authorities saying the rule was in place nor a reason. sarah's first set of transplanted lungs failed within hours after surgery. three days later the girl who suffers from cystic fibrosis received a second set of adult lungs. >> it was such rapid decline, in fact the doctor said it was the fastest decline he has seen in 23 years of lungs. we were willing to accept marginal lung in that moment pause we knew we needed to >> some question the decision to give sarah a second transplant. arthur cap lan asks, quote if
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the goal is to save lives with scarce lungs should retransplants ever be done following an initial a cute failure of a first set? i would say no if others could have used organs that did not have a first shot. and another authority said, it's always difficult to decide how to allocate organs but the best way to make those decisions is probably not to involve the courts. sarah meanwhile is now taking some. bret: on her own although she continues to breathe mostly with the help of a ventilator and she is scheduled for additional surgery to repair her diagram, which was damaged through the operation. jenna: she has been through so much we wish her well. but an interesting debate as we continue to watch this story. thank you. rick: back to florida now, and we are waiting for the jury to be brought back into the courtroom in the george zimmerman murder trial that is about to resume after a short quick recess. let's take a listen. this person on the stand right now is a friend of george zimmerman's, who actually accompanied him to the police
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station after he was involved in the incident with trayvon martin. let's take a listen. >> did you get a call and did you end up responding to the retreat at twin lakes. >> i did. >> and did you meet the defendant's wife shelly zimmerman there? i did. >> okay. later the following morning, early morning of the 27th did you come into contact with the defendant, george zimmerman? >> yes, i did. >> okay. and did you transport him somewhere with his wife, shelly zimmerman? >> i did. >> did he make some statements to you regarding what he alleged happened regarding the shooting he was involved in? >> yes, he did. >> did he specifically state that that sunday night, the 26th he had -- was going shopping at target? >> correct. >> object, your honor, leading. >> sustained. >> okay. if you could, tell us what the defendant told you and let me set the setting if i could, you were with yourself and i believe you were driving is that
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correct? >> i drove myself -- >> i'm going to rephrase the question. i apologize. confusion on my part. when mr. zimmerman the defendant was telling you something about what happened, he was in the car with you is that correct. >> that is correct. >> were you driving? >> i was. >> and was his wife, shelly zimmerman with you and george. >> she was. >> did he make some statements regarding what had happened regarding the shooting. >> he did. >> could you tell us what the defendant said regarding what he alleged happened? >> george said that the night -- on that sunday night he had left his home as he did every sunday night to get lunches for the week, and as he was going to go to super target, which is really, really close to his home he was going to -- he just drives out of his neighborhood and i think it was dark that night, and on his way there is when he observed someone in a black hoodie, and someone who was looking like someone he had not seen before.
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he knew most of the people in his neighborhood. so he had observed someone walking through the neighborhood with a hoodie on looking either into windows or looking into around residences and such. >> let me interrupt you if i could. did he describe the individual. >> he did. >> how did he describe him? >> tall about 6-foot and about slender, slender build. >> and he stated the person was doing something he said? >> he said looking into -- looking -- walking through, between two sets of townhomes, when you look to your left and right you would look into windows, you wouldn't be in a position really to look into any of the front door or such, side windows. >> did he describe the individual by race or ethnicity? >> well at that time he knew that he was a black male. >> okay. i apologize. i interrupted you. what else did the defendant tell
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you that happened. >> he said when he realized that the person that was walking through the neighborhood was someone he didn't know, he didn't recognize, and someone who usually looks through a neighborhood while it's raining is suspicious, a lot of times juveniles will walk-through neighborhoods or people who are suspicious will walk-through neighborhoods while it's raining because you get less people walking around, walking their dogs or taking an evening walk. so someone that might want to be a little more sus spweur suspicious, they will do it when it's dark or raining and that might have been a trigger he had said to me. >> i want to focus as best you can in terms of what you recall him saying as opposed to -- >> i'm sorry. >> that's all right. >> he said he observed what is now -- we realize is trayvon walking between the two buildings and then he came down and he observed him, thought it was suspicious and that he was going to call the nonemergency number for the sanford, police
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department. >> did he state that the individual that we're referring to now as trayvon martin starts toward him and came under the light and so he was using his phone? >> correct. correct. george was using his -- i'm sorry did you mention george was using his phone or trayvon? >> what did he say? >> i never -- i was never told by george that trayvon was using his phone. >> i'm sorry, that he. >> george was. >> george zimmerman was using his phone. >> correct he dialed the nonemergency number and wanted to make sure that he called that line instead of the 911 line. >> did he say the person you know now as the victim, trayvon martin approached his car? >> walked close at this point. >> what does i say about that if you could? >> walked down to the street, about where -- because george had remained in his vehicle, and trayvon had walked down i guess down to the sidewalk area. he walked a little further away, he walked back a bit and then
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george had i believe pulled into the front of their clubhouse and parked his vehicle there, and waited for sanford police to arrive and -- >> did he say. >> and make contact. >> i'm sorry i interrupted you. >> that's all right. >> did he say the person that you now know as trayvon martin, when i say he i'm talking about the defendant george zimmerman. that he walked up to the passenger window, stood there for a moment, comes to the front of the car, to the driver's side towards the rear of my car and walks away. >> he walks around the vehicle in close proximity and they looked at each other george said. >> did he the defendant then say that at some point he lost sight of the person you now know as trayvon martin? >> yes, briefly. >> and do you recall then in terms of mr. zimmerman the defendant saying that he was talking to dispatch or the
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nonemergency person, correct? >> yes, yes. >> did he tell you that in terms of whether he was asked, are you following him and he answered, yes i'm following him but he didn't see trayvon martin at that time, was looking for him? >> there's kind of two -- as george described it to me there were kind of two phases of the contact. the first one was when he first saw him, and then he pulled into the clubhouse parking lot and then the second one was when he reestablished contact with trayvon who walked down another side street that wasn't the main street around the circle, and then he backed his car up and then he tried to keep a visual contact with him so he followed him with his car and he didn't get out of his vehicle until he lost visual sight of him. >> and then do you recall the defendant telling you that the officer or the dispatcher, i use officer just because they're with the police department, saying to the defendant that we
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don't need you to follow him, and he said, okay? >> correct. that was at the point where he had already gotten out of his car first, and as he described it to me, there were two reasons for getting out of the car. first, he didn't know the street, i guess, he was on that center street. it's a smaller street. he didn't know the actual name of it, so he got out of his car to try to establish a visual contact to try to direct the police officer in to meet with trayvon and dispel his suspicion s, and to find the exact address. because as a police officer, you always want to know the exact address of where you're going. >> all right. and then he told you, i'm sorry, he -- the defendant, i apologize for using a pronoun -- that he started walking, and then he put his phone somewhere? >> he put his phone in his pocket after the dispatcher told him they didn't need him to follow him, so he was going to walk back to his vehicle. >> okay. and then he said something happened at that point? >> with he told me that as he was walking back to his car down the dog path that trayvon had,
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had confronted him, had walked towards him and confronted him, and they had a verbal. >> okay. and what do you recall the defendant telling you that trayvon martin told him, and what did he say in respond? >> he cursed. i'm not going to curse here today. >> all right. >> he said you, do you have a problem? >> okay. >> and then he used a curse word. >> all right. now, you wrote a book about this, right? >> i did. >> and you wrote a book, and were you quoting what the defendant, george zimmerman told you, correct? >> correct. >> and you recall do you have a problem, that's what he said trayvon martin said. >> are right. correct. >> okay. and you didn't put anything in that book anything -- put in that book anything about the curse word at all? >> i believe i did. >> you did? >> i believe i did. the do you have a problem, and then used the initials mf. >> okay. may i approach the witness, your honor? >> yes, you may. >> i'm going to show you your own book, and unless i got the wrong page, i'm on page 28,
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counsel -- just to refresh your memory. >> correct, correct. um -- >> don't read from it, just -- [inaudible] >> all right. yeah, he had told me that do you have a problem be, and then the curse word. it was taken out of the book because it was pretty graphic. and i -- >> oh, okay. so on purpose you took it out. >> i think the publisher had asked that that not be put in. >> because you put on do you have a problem, and then he, mr. zimmerman, you said, replied, no, i don't have a problem, correct? >> correct. >> but you believe the words were actually what now that defendant said? >> mf. >> okay. so -- [inaudible] and then the defendant,
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mr. zimmerman, replied -- [inaudible] >> you do now. >> okay. and the defendant claimed that he, trayvon martin, was coming at him at that time? >> he was very close, probably within a an arm's or two arms' reach, and george lost contact visually. >> and i apologize. >> okay. go ahead. no, he as george was reaching down to get to his phone to reestablish contact with the dispatch, that's when physical contact happened. >> so the defendant told you that he had these words with trayvon martin -- >> correct. >> and then he said that he went and reached for his phone in his pocket -- >> correct. looked down. >> i'm sorry, he looked down. >> he looked down to reach to get into his pocket -- >> and at that point is when trayvon martin pushed him. >> struck him in the nose. >> okay. so he, defendant claims he
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looked down, and that's when trayvon martin hit him? >> well, he looked down, got his phone, and he said as he looked back up -- he lost visual contact for maybe a second to get his phone out of his pocket. he went like this, and as he looked up, the punch came squarely in his face. >> so did the defendant say he took the phone out or left it in his pocket? >> i don't remember that. >> okay. >> i don't remember. >> and then what did the defendant claim after he claims the victim hit him in the nose? >> he stumbled backwards and found himself on his back. >> are okay. >> partially on the grass, partially on the sidewalk. >> did he say what the victim, trayvon martin, was doing at that point? >> he moved forward and got on top of him. >> did he describe to you how he got on top of him? >> his knees were up somewhere near his chest or up near his armpits. >> are okay. >> and he was beginning to punch him. >> okay.
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so the defendant is claiming that the victim straddled him, i guess? >> correct. >> and his knees were up in his ribs and near his armpits, correct? >> correct. >> and he began punching him. >> that's what george said. >> where i apologize, again, punching trayvon martin. >> trayvon began punching george zimmerman. >> i'm sorry. i got it backwards. the defendant's on the ground, and trayvon martin -- >> [inaudible] >> i'm sorry. >> i apologize. >> whether i'm sorry. he said that he was on his back, and trayvon martin straddled him and began punching him in the face. >> but the way he described trayvon martin straddling the defendant, he claims that it's -- you said his knees were up to his ribs or armpits, something like that? >> somewhere around that, correct. >> then he said what? >> well, george began screaming for help at that point. >> did he say anything about the
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defendant grabbing his head and doing something with his head? >> absolutely. once he started screaming, trayvon -- george said trayvon grabbed his head and started bashing his head on the concrete which, the upper half of his body was on the dog pathway. >> n., i think you quoted mr. zimmerman, the defendant, saying he was 8 inches from the grass, correct? >> about. as george was explaining it, this upper half of him, somewhere was still on the concrete where the rest of his body was still on the grass. >> i think your quote is i notice i'm about 8 inches away from the grass, correct? >> correct. >> and then does mr. zimmerman, the defendant, tell you i tried to maneuver my body just enough to get up to the grass? >> it was a squirm, he said. he said as he was squirming down towards the grass to get his head from hitting the concrete, he said his jacket kind of
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remained still. it wasn't buttoned, so it stayed where it was, and his body moved towards the grass a little bit more. >> what else did he say about anybody saying this? have he said several people had come out, at least two that he saw come out, and he directly screamed for help towards those people. so as he was screaming, it was more directed at someone. >> and did he say one of the individuals that came out was a man, and he yells directly at him, and the man just went right back in? >> he stated he was going to call 911. he wasn't going to get involved. >> and did he say then there was other individuals that saw this too, correct? >> perhaps at least one other for sure that witnessed what was happening. it may have been the same person that had the flashlight. >> with right. >> that showed up later. >> i think you, and you can refer if you need to refresh your memory on page 28 where you quoted mr. zimmerman -- rick: a friend of george
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zimmerman's testifying right now, a hostile witness for the prosecution. we are streaming the trial live on a quick break here on fox news channel, and we'll be right back after this. don't go away.
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jenna: "happening now," an update on staffer sergeant travs mills. for those of you who don't know him, here's a little background. travis was born and raised in michigan. he was 14 years old and in high school when 9/11 happened. weeks later president bush announced the next step. >> on my orders, the united states military has begun strikes against al-qaeda terrorist training camps and military installations of the taliban regime in afghanistan. jenna: travis joined the army four years later becoming a proud member of the 82nd airborne. and by the time he was 24, staff sergeant mills had deployed to afghanistan three times. in that time he also met and
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married his sweetheart, kelsey. and today had a baby girl named chloe. on april 10th, a few days before his 25th birthday, travis was on a foot patrol during his third deployment, and an ied attack took both arms and both legs making travis one of the few quadruple amputees in our nation's history. now, you may think you know what's coming next in a story about a wounded warrior, but we assure you, you have never met anyone like travis. we reported on his story only days after learning about his injuries, and over the last year we've followed travis' recovery marking each step with a phone call or an update, and fox news viewers have shown overwhelming support for he and his family. just recently i visited travis on his own turf where he showed us where he's living, working and making strides that literally took our breath away. here's travis. >> in the very beginning, seeing
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yourself with a new view is rough. i looked at myself in the mirror, i couldn't do it for a while. just because, i mean, i've got nothing left. jenna: what do you see now when you look in the mirror? >> this devilishly good looking, handsome face, of course. no, just the same person. life's a little bit more adaptive or changed a little bit, but it's nothing i can't accomplish or get through. saddle the horse. jenna: how long did it take you to get to do this? >> took me a while. it's challenging, but you keep -- [inaudible] go ahead. jenna: how many times do you think you've been around this track? >> oh, a lot. 26 laps is a mile. jenna: really? >> i've done a lot of miles in here. [inaudible conversations] jenna: what about the pain? what is it like? >> i don't have any right now.
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jenna: really? >> yeah. jenna: do you have any soreness in your back? hey, wait. what you doing? >> chloe, can i get a high-five? is that for daddy? okay, thank you. jenna: do you remember your first day? >> yeah, i do. i didn't do much. i just did some ab stuff on the mat and went back to sleep. i was so tired. i can sit up. jenna: what would you say have been some of the hardest days here? >> i just got my legs. i just received them. i got to walk around on my short legs. i was driving in my chair, and i was driving too fast, didn't have a lot of core strength, and i went too fast out of the doors, chair shot me forward. i catapulted out of it. i went down on the ground and cried out in pain -- manly like, of course. no, and then i was set back two weeks from walking. >> when he comes in, he kind of makes everybody want to work a little bit harder. he's one of the guys i looked at and said, okay, he's working hard, and he doesn't even have
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the tools. i've got two good hands. he has a better attitude than i have, and i've got two good hands and longer legs. his prosthetics just broke, but if you look at it, most people would be horrified by it, but he's -- [inaudible] so, i mean, like, and it's very scary to fall down from five feet or six feet. he just fell down, and he has a great attitude about it. i cannot look at that guy and say, okay, look, i'm just making excuses, you know? i need to get myself together. >> so that wasn't part of it. jenna: are you all right? >> yeah. so i swished legs -- switched legs back, my left leg buzz out too far. i wasn't trying to do it for the camera. jenna: how would you characterize his progress? >> compared to somebody who just lost just his legs, he's a little bit behind because he doesn't have the arms to assist him with things, but, i mean, i think he's doing amazingly well.
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jenna: it doesn't hurt? >> no. i mean, it feels funny because it's actually, like, this is my calf muscle wrapped at the bottom. this is my kneecap right here. this is my calf muscle. i've got paddle. i've got padding. it's really the rubber that adds resistance. the rubber adds a bunch of resistance, and then eve got to put on a little more. jenna: all right, travis, let me see. >> you ready? jenna: okay. okay. [laughter] >> that's acting 1012 right there. -- 101 right there. jenna: that's really hard. i'm not even exaggerating. >> i don't know if they told you, but over in the housing they call him the mayor because he goes around at night and visits everybody. he's somebody that goes into
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somebody's room when they just got here, and they're kind of feeling upset and depressed and sad, and he walked in with his four prosthetics and a smile on his face, and he's like, you're going to be okay. >> ot compared to pt, ot helps you adapt your -- chloe, you want animals? can you get a straw? i'll get it, you get a straw. good job. who am i to sit around and be sad because i had the opportunities i had? i chose my career in the army, and i knew what could happen, and it did. luckily, battlefield medicine's come so far that it has saved me to where i can watch my daughter grow up, i can hang out with my wife, and we can plan our dreams. jenna: speaking of travis' wife, next hour you're going to hear from her. we first interviewed kelsey about five days after travis was injured. she's going to reflect on that. she's also going to tell us what the last year has been like for her. and wait until you hear who she says she's turned to the most
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over the last year. that's coming up. we're going to show it to you next hour. rick: unbelievable story. look toward to that. and just as a dad with young kids watching him, i have a hard time getting snacks ready for my kids and doing the kinds of things that travis is able to do. it's really unbelievable. jenna: well, we know that chloe needs an agent, obviously. that little girl, we've also seen her grow up, and she's nothing but the sweetest little girl. you're going to see more of chloe next hour as well. rick: sounds good. we look forward to it. we're also following, as you know, gripping testimony today in the george zimmerman murder trial in florida. our legal panel joins us to take a look at the latest developments and explain some of the legalese that you might be hearing and perhaps might be a bit confused by as we watch both the prosecution and the defense in the zimmerman trial. we'll have more of that when we come right back.
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rick: fox news alert, want to take you back now to live testimony. the defense attorney in the george zimmerman murder trial cross-examining a friend of zimmerman's, mark osterman. let's take a listen. >> where no one could see him. >> and did you have any contact with him at that point? >> none. >> so then -- >> couldn't get anywhere close. >> okay. then at some point you went to sanford police department, correct? >> correct. i drove shelley over to the sanford police department, and we waited in their lobby til he was released. >> do you recall how many hours you were there? >> goodness, two, three a.m.? could have been even longer. >> what was he, what was his state of mind when you finally saw him at two or three o'clock in the morning? >> stunned. he immediately attempted to reassure shelley who broke down again once she saw him, once
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they got out of the elevator. she went into hysterics, kind of a breakdown. maybe not hysterics, but went into a sobbing breakdown, and he immediately tried to reassure her he was okay. he was more occupied with her than with anything else. but he had a stunned look on his face. >> and when you say "stunned," tell us -- >> wide-eyed, just kind of a, a little bit detached perhaps from maybe not realizing he had just gone through a traumatic event. >> [inaudible] >> odd to describe, very difficult to describe. >> let's talk about, obviously, as a good friend to him the five years prior or four years prior you've known him, correct? >> oh, yes. >> and then tell the jury, if you would, how he was that night compared to the george zimmerman you knew most other days. >> that's what i was using to base my observation on, was a
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more wide-eyed stare, a -- again, once he saw shelley, he focused more on making sure she was reassured and letting her know that he's okay, he doesn't have anything fatal, anything going on with him. he's all right. and she immediately started to observe -- once she got out of her, her shock at seeing george, she then started kind of looking at his injuries. i guess she kind of went into nurse mode at that point, because she was a nursing student. >> and, again, how is george presenting himself to you? >> um, detached. it's hard to describe. >> well, is detached different from the way he normally is? >> oh, vastly. >> so when you say "detached," what do you mean? >> i would say probably -- rick: the entire trial, all the testimony streaming live right now at you won't miss a thing, and
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jenna: hitting noon here on the east coast, and live coverage of the george zimmerman trial. another dramatic day in florida as the jury now hears from george zimmerman's friend. man e stand right now, his name's mark osterman. he's testifying about what zimmerman told him the night of the fatal shooting. this comes after jurors heard again from the lead detective in the investigation. that made headlines yesterday. let's go ahead and take a listen. >> i believe there was a window to one where the light was on, and you could see that someone was looking into the window of a townhome. and it was about that time that trayvon and george made eye contact with each other and both or were aware of the other's presence. >> okay. and in that initial contact, did
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he say to you that he was angry or anything like that with who this person was? >> no, no. george, george said that he wanted to make sure that he just got with nonemergency dispatch and had them send a police officer. >> and he told you he did that? >> immediately. >> and, of course, you know from your conversation with george that that entire conversation was recorded, correct? >> yes, i do. >> and from your conversations with george both about this night and other nights, george zimmerman certainly knows that those phone calls are recorded, correct? >> yes. >> so tell me then, again, he's explaining to you that trayvon martin is now walking up and sort of near his vehicle at some point? >> correct. came walking from between the townhomes down to where the sidewalk or the road area was. >> and are you taking any notes at this point, or are you just listening to him download? >> i'm driving.
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>> okay. so at some point it became apparent to you that mr. zimmerman had stopped his car by the clubhouse, correct? >> yes, he did. >> and that trayvon martin then came up towards his car, looked in the window or walked partially and it? >> very close. walked around it very close, made eye contact several more times, very aware of each other's presence. >> during this point, this sort of second eye contact, did george zimmerman relate to you in any way that he was angry or anything about trayvon martin or this person who was there? >> no. not at all. >> and he further told you that he was still on the phone, of course, with nonemergency, right? >> he remained on, correct. >> so then we move forward to i think you said that george martin -- george zimmerman did what he thought he should to
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keep trayvon martin in sight? >> correct. >> is that pretty much the way -- tell me how he related that part to you as best you can recall. >> well, he said that he had heard from the sanford police officers that showed up to the clubhouse to give instruction to neighborhood watch people was to always try to keep whatever subject that you're observing in sight. it makes it much easier for a law enforcement officer to show up and make contact with the subject if you're on the phone with dispatch during the whole process and you can actually see the subject. >> did he relate to you that the nonemergency dispatcher had actually told him on a couple of occasions tell me what he's doing now, or let me know if he's doing anything else? >> he told me what he was doing. he didn't tell me that the dispatcher had said certain things. >> okay. so, basically, george zimmerman as he's telling you this story, he's recounting to you actions, correction -- correct? >> yes.
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>> not necessarily i did this because of this reason, or i did this and sort of superimposing the conversation he's having with nonemergency onto your conversations? >> no. not at that time, no. >> okay. he was just saying, basically, a rendition of what was going on. >> correct. >> and just so the jury is clear, about how long was this conversation between george zimmerman and you during this car ride? >> the drive from the sanford police department to near the intersection of reinhart road and lake mary boulevard which would have been about 14 minutes, 15 minutes. >> and during that time were other things being discussed as well like whatever shelley was doing with him? >> she didn't interject at all. >> will okay. so during this conversation then, he's telling you that he's trying to keep an eye on trayvon martin however he can. >> that was his intent, was to keep him under observation. >> okay. and at some point -- well, tell me then at some point did he say
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to you that i couldn't see him any longer or that he'd lost sight of him? >> that is why, that's one of the reasons why he got out of the vehicle. >> and tell me how he related that to you. >> he said he went in between the townhomes down the dog path, a walking path -- >> when you say "he," you mean trayvon martin? >> right. he lost contact in the darkness in between the townhomes town walking path -- down the walking path, and then he got out of his vehicle to, it may have been at the time when someone was asking him where is your exact location, because the officer was getting close. so as the police officer gets closer and closer to the actual scene, the dispatch likes to tell them exact street house, street numbers so you can find your place exactly. >> okay. >> and that's what he was looking for. >> george zimmerman never told you during the entire this conversation that george zimmerman ever went down the dog path, correct?
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>> he, he did. he left his vehicle, and he -- >> walked down the path. >> walked down the path, correct. >> do you know the area that we're talking about? >> i do. >> okay. and you know there's a path that goes straight through to retreat view circle -- >> correct. >> and then a right turn -- >> t. >> 2rbgs. >> are yes. >> and he had said to you that trayvon martin went down the t, correct? >> perhaps, that's what he believes because the street beyond was lit better than the dog path was. so if trayvon had gone all the way to retreat view circle, he would have seen him or his shadow perhaps. because he lost sight of him around the time where the t was, he just, he said i believe he made his turn down that dark dog path area that was not very well lit at all. >> and tell us the path, if you recall, that george zimmerman told you he took as he was on the phone? >> he said he went straight to go through. since he lost contact, he wanted
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to go straight through to get a house number -- >> straight through -- >> straight through, not take the right to go down on the t, just to go straight through and find some kind of a house number because you want to make sure you get the exact house number. there was a lot of units there on retreat view circle. the exact house number would have brought the police officer faster. i believe that's what his intent was. >> and he told you he was on his way back when the altercation began, right? >> correct. >> and they said whatever they said to each other as you testified to. just to fast forward, i think you said that you weren't taking notes during that event, correct? >> i was driving, correct. >> have you ever talked to george again about the facts of this case, or was that the only time? >> one other time i heard him relate the incident. >> and when was that? >> the next morning. >> okay. and we'll talk about that in a moment. >> okay. >> during the event in the car,
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when he said things like do you have a problem, you do now or, no, i don't, are those, as best you can recall, the words that george told you he remembers from the night before? >> that is correct. >> and talking about the actual mounting, when he said trayvon martin had mounted him, i think he said at one point he was straddling him, and the knees may have been up as high as the armpits, is that correct? >> could have been. the rib area, could have been as high as the armpits. >> well, no, i'm just asking you because what i would like to do is have you tell the jury without suggesting ribs, armpits, whatever it might be, for right now just recount as best as you recall what george remembered of the event and what he told you. >> um, well, i guess while -- during the struggle, i guess, the position of his knees and legs would probably change with george squirming. so at one point i believe they
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were around his ribs with george trying to squirm off of the sidewalk and onto the grass. i guess his knees came up a little higher, and that's very possible. or the other way around to where it was as he's scwurming once they get closer to the grass, it, in a fight, i guess, or in a scrap like that it began at least here with the ribs, with the knees somewhere in the ribs area. >> was he consistent, however, that it was trayvon martin who was mounted on top of him? >> if it was trayvon? >> yes. >> oh, absolutely. >> and was he consistent that it was he, meaning george zimmerman, who was screaming for help? >> without question. >> and he did tell you at some point that there was some hand over the nose, hand over the mouth event? >> correct. but it was raining, and it was slippery, i'm sure. >> did he tell you how long that portion of the overall altercation lasted? >> twenty seconds, maybe? 15, 20, 30 seconds?
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he didn't mention it. >> well, again -- >> no, he didn't mention it. he did not say how long. >> okay. did that, however, as he relayed it to you seem to be significant as it was occurring to him, that he couldn't breathe for whatever length of time? >> it was critical. >> and that he had, somebody had a hand, trayvon martin, on the nose that had already suffered the previous injury? >> correct. >> and as he was relating that to you, was that sort of a real focus of his? >> that was, that was the focus. when he was losing oxygen, he felt he was not able to breathe, and that's why he was desperate to clear an airway. >> and in your experience as law enforcement, would you agree that that's sort of a natural reaction to traumatic events? >> i would think so. every time i've seen it. >> and do people involved in traumatic events like that sometimes focus on particular parts of it? >> almost exclusively to to the
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omission of others. >> for example, car accidents you might focus on the speed of the car coming at you and completely forget about other cars around you. >> correct. >> is that unnatural in your experience as law enforcement? >> no, it's typical. >> so when you hear, when you go to the scene of an accident or shooting or anything that you investigate, do you find in your experience that people often have sort of tunnel vision views of what happened to them? >> sometimes very specific, correct. >> does that mean that they're lying to you when they do that? >> not at all. >> why not? >> um, that's -- well, it's been proven that that is typical. sometimes they'll focus in on one event to the exclusion of others. >> how about their ability to just recount events with any particularity at all? >> i'm going to object. this is beyond the scope of the -- [inaudible] >> sustained.
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[background sounds] >> and then we talked -- you testified concerning this whole event around the gun. did you have a similar concern as to mr. zimmerman's ability to recount those events to you? >> no. >> okay. tell me what he did say about having to grab his gun. >> he said that trayvon had reached down and grand for the gun -- grabbed for the gun. whether it was on the leather holster or on the actual metal part itself, at the time i didn't see a difference. i just thought that the intent was clear. and that's when he had to, he had to -- he freed one of his hands and went and got the gun. he either broke the, he either broke contact or knocked somebody else's hand away, trayvon's hand away from him reaching for the gun or grabbing
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the gun, and then he drew it. >> do you recall if he even told you that trayvon martin had touched the gun or just said he was reaching for it? >> i thought he had said he had grabbed the gun. i've only heard the story twice, and whether it was grabbed the gun, grabbed for the gun, i just -- perhaps it was just the intent. but i believed he said he grabbed the gun. >> so -- rick: another witness for the prosecution seemingly helping the case of the defense, a friend of george zimmerman's on the stand. the cross-examination continues. we're streaming it live without interruption on and we'll have plenty more right here on fnc. don't go away. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
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george zimmerman after the shooting as stunned and detached. his description or his retelling of the night, according to what zimmerman told him, is crucial to this case. but there's a big question about why the prosecution chose george zimmerman's best friend to to the stand at this time d to take the stand at this time. it's a question our legal panel's going to be taking up. but let's go ahead and listen back in. again, mark osterman, the best friend of george zimmerman, answering questions from the defense at this time. >> i may have documented it wrong. >> and even if there was manager different that -- something different that it told law enforcement a few hours earlier in a recorded or videotaped interview that you recall happening, would you defer to that? >> i would.
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>> a moment, your honor? >> and at some point in this investigation you had an opportunity to listen to the screaming on the 911 call, correct? >> [inaudible] >> sustained. >> no other questions, your honor.ny redirect? >> you as best you could testified and have written in your book what the defendant, your best friend, george zimmerman told you, correct? >> correct. >> you haven't made anything up to help one side or the other, correct? >> none whatsoever. >> and as you stated, the victim told you the -- the defendant told you the victim had his hands underneath his body,
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correct? >> correct. >> and the defendant told you the victim, trayvon martin, grabbed his gun, correct? >> yes. grabbed for his gun. >> well, i think you -- >> grabbed -- i guess we're going over whether he grabbed the holster part or the gun, i didn't want see a difference in the two. but grabbed -- >> grabbed the gun. >> absolutely. the gun didn't come out, but he grabbed the gun in the holster. >> that's what i'm saying. >> yes, sir. >> mr. zimmerman didn't tell you he grabbed for it, he said he actually got it. >> that's what i thought i heard, yes. >> okay. then he told you, i thought i shot wide, but he -- [inaudible] so i put my gun in my holster. >> correct. >> then he said he put the phone in his pocket, turned around to head back, and the guy was right there about 15 feet walking towards him. >> correct.
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>> thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> very briefly, one question in response. as to the reholsterring of the weapon, do you recall if he told you it was reholsterred as he got up or if he had it in the his hand when he was holding trayvon martin's hands down or even at some point shortly thereafter? >> he may have had it -- he may have had it still in his hand as he jumped on top of trayvon and perhaps holstered when he saw the flashlight -- i don't remember specifically whether, when exactly he holstered his firearm. >> thank you. nothing further, your honor. >> any redirect? >> [inaudible] that he holstered his firearm. >> he holstered his firearm at some point. exactly when, i'm not 100% sure whether it was when he got up or when he was still partially on top. >> do you want to look at your book a minute? if you could, page 29 at the bottom.
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did you quote him as saying, in fact, i thought he might try to get up again, so as i was putting my gun in my holster, i jumped on top of him and pinned his wrists to the ground. >> are correct. >> was that accurate? >> as far as i remember that he holstered -- yeah, at that point now remembers, i remember that he was -- he holstered, pinned his hands down -- it's what i, i remembered him saying something like that. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. may mr. osterman be excused? >> [inaudible] your honor. >> okay, thank you. jenna: just a reminder, mark osterman, again, is the best friend of george zimmerman. this is him telling his side of the story from the night as told to him by george zimmerman. he was never there. so just keep that in mind as we're continuing to watch the witnesses that the prosecution, the state is calling to the stand. there's some questions about that, our legal possible will take it up in just a little bit.
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in the meantime, we've got more from the heroic soldier who lost four limbs on the battlefield, travis mills. he's going to show us his life at home and we're going to hear from his wife kelsey as well. the story of a true american hero. we'll be right back with more "happening now."
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rick: as we've been following the zimmerman trial, let's talk to lis wiehl, former federal prosecutor, douglas burns is a former federal prosecutor and criminal defense attorney. and watching the trial with both of you, as i've been privileged to do, is almost like watching the dvd where you listen to the director's commentary in the background. [laughter] you have a lot to say, all right? >> no, we don't. rick: lis, first to you. the prosecutor calling a witness -- >> as a hostile -- rick: a guy who wrote a book called "defending our friend." >> it is a dark day for the prosecution when in your case you have to call the best friend
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of your defendant, and you have to treat him as a hostile witness. that's, hence, why it was cross-examination. a lot of people probably wondered. that's why. the only thing, i mean, i was really perplexed. the only thing i can think the prosecution was thinking they could get from him was this repeat of the word "suspicious." they're trying to go to zimmerman's state of mind that night and having him repeat suspicious, suspicious, martin was suspicious, that could lead to the inference of racial profiling. rick: okay. the detective who was on the stand earlier today not exactly bolstering the prosecution's case, and that's usually the job. the police take the stand, and they help the prosecution. in this case it seemed to be more deferential to the defense. >> very, very unusual dynamic developing in this trial. first of all, real quick back to this prior witness, he turns to him and says the victim was grabbing for the gun. rick: right. >> that is potentially fatal, for lack of a better description in terms of self-defense. >> it's all about self-defense. >> now, your point is something
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that really needs to be addressed, and that is that people were saying, well, wait a minute, could the defense theoretically get into evidence that the police investigated this case and concluded not to bring charges? the answer to that is, no be, they really can't because there's a lengthy statute of limitations. however, what's fascinating is if you think about it, law enforcement is basically saying you have come in here from another jurisdiction, and you're attacking, essentially, the work that we did. and that dynamic is tractionlating directly into your point which is that law enforcement does not seem favorable to the prosecution. rick: just a little context to explain and remind everybody that initially charges were not brought against zimm everyman. it was only after the fact. >> 44 days after, right. rick: and so the police in this case -- >> they made a decision to go one way, that is not charge and, you know, a lot of other things happened in those 44 days. whether it was political, whatever, it happened, and the charges were filed. this is why it's so important that the prosecution be thinking long and hard now about lesser
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includeds, not just the second-degree, but something less than that, negligence, negligent homicide, manslaughter, assault. something so that if the jury cannot find and get him on second-degree, they've got something to fall back on. that's what i would be doing right now. i would have done it earlier, frankly. rick: so when would that happen? if the prosecution would want to let the jury know, hay, listen -- hey, listen, you've got some other options here, when does the jury find out about that? >> interestingly enough, they could are put in the top count and the lesser charges. that mandatorily guarantees the jury would have the choice. now, to answer your question, at the close of the evidence, your honor, we would like you to instruct this jury -- >> jury's not in the room at that point. >> yes. that they have the option to convict him of, let's say i'll use the example, manslaughter. but the point is, it's up to the judge. >> right. that's put in the instructions. you asked about when it would happen. when the judge reads the instructions ott jury --
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rick: okay. last point because we're running out of time. the possibility of zimmerman taking the stand or the possibility of the defense not even presenting a case because they don't have to. >> at this point, i mean, doug can probably speak more to the point, but the prosecution is not making a strong case. the prosecution has to prove everything, and putting zimmerman on the stand does have some risk for the defense. they might just sit down. rick: real quick, doug. >> no, real quick, the prosecution has to prove it wasn't self-defense. they seem to be having a tough time, and the defense is strategizing about not putting him on, but again, nothing definitive. rick reduction stick around, if you would, we're going to come back to you, but for now over to jenna. jenna: thanks, rick. well, he lost all four limbs fighting for our country in afghanistan, and last hour we told you about his incredible physical recovery thus far. moments from now, travis mills will share new details about his family life and his life ahead.
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jenna: welcome back, everyone. now to the second part of our update on travis mills. last hour travis showed us the physical part of his recovery after losing all four limbs in afghanistan just last year. he also spoke very candidly about the personal side of it all. as we took the walk back to the apartment where he lives with his family at walter reed bethesda. we also heard a crucial part of the story from his partner in all this and, quite frankly, the very first person we contacted and interviewed; his wife, kelsey. take a listen. >> when i talked to you last, i really don't remember our conversation because it was so fresh and new. i know he was on a foot patrol, and he stepped on an ied, and then i was informed 12 hours later. jenna: and the extent of his injuries, what can you tell us about that? >> um, he's lost both his legs
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past the knee or slightly above and then his right arm above the elbow and his left arm below the elbow. i didn't imagine he'd be sitting or standing here walking around, running, doing all the sports he's done and how far he's come in a year is pretty impressive. jenna: for you what's been the hardest part of the last year? >> seeing him struggle. but he's overcome everything that has been thrown his way, so -- and she hasn't been too easy this year. jenna: how old was she when -- >> six and a half months. she's 19 months now. so she's grown up here and around. i like that she's grown up around, you know, prosthetics and disabilities, because i think it'll just make her a better-rounded person. and she doesn't think it's weird when she sees people with no legs. >> yeah. she's okay with giving my hook a high-five. no? you're tired? okay, my bad. jenna: do you have a moment where you look back and think
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that was a real milestone, that was a real high, and do you have a moment where you're thinking that was a real low? >> the real low was the first day we got here. that was the lowest that we've been all year. we've just gone up from there. but the best day, the most memorable day was the first day he walked off the table, off the turntable or whatever. that just sticks out. jenna: where do you go for support? because i can't imagine that any -- >> [inaudible] jenna: really, is that where you go? you're supportive? >> yeah. for myself or for her? i tell her when she does manager, cleans the house, i mean, i still treat her like i would if i had arms and legs, but if she has a problem, she can come to me and figure it out. if she has to be mean to me, she is. i'm not going to help you, you're a big boy. then i realize that she's right. jenna: is that hard sometimes, kelsey? >> no. no, it's fun when i get to tell him -- [laughter] no, it's hard to say no to him, but i like him to challenge
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himself, and the more he does something, the better he'll get at it. jenna: we haven't really talked about this, but i was just curious, has faith come into play? your belief in god? what's been a driving forest to help you -- force to help you through the last year? >> to say that it hasn't been tested, would be a lie. to wonder why this would happen to you, to wonder, you know, was he really there watching me, am i a bad person? but just think it you find your inner strength. jenna: how do you make sense of that question that you brought up, why did this have to happen to us? >> you can't really make sense of it. there was no rhyme or reason, it was an accident. unlucky day. could have been anybody, and happened to be us. >> yeah. if you dwell on not healthy. you've just got to get past it. knowing there's a future and not to live in the past is a big thing. jenna: what are you most excited about for the future? >> oh, well, i think we decided we're going to live more north
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where there's four seasons. i can't really do softball as well, but chloe is going to have four-wheelers, and we're going to have off-road treks, we're going to be able to go swimming and just the way they've shoin me adaptive sports and what i can do, next winter we're looking forward to teaching her how to ski or snowboard. she might be be a skier or snowboarder, just shred it like dad. jenna: you're excited. >> she's going to side with me, because i give you candy. jenna: if i sit down with kelsey, chloe and travis in ten years, what's going to happen? >> travis is going to have gun prosthetics to keep the boys away. >> possibly transplants in the future. we'll see about that. i've just got to get better and better with my legs and i can see what these legs really do, how the knee works. it's just amazing with technology getting better. is kind of the just whatever the future holds is going to be just a step in the right direction,
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i'd imagine. jenna: what about chloe dating? >> yeah. so, like i said, gun prosthetics. i have a hand attachment that will -- so when she's 30, we'll think about it. [laughter] we'll think about it. jenna: chloe has no idea what that's going to be like, to introduce the boys to her dad, right? but you can see that kelsey and travis and chloe, they're an incredible couple. we're so lucky that they shared what they have with us over the last year. and just -- just one thought. last may travis and i spoke for the first time. he had just gotten out of a series of surgeries. and he said that one of his dreams is to host this show, a television show. so we promised him that we would make good on giving him a little bit of an opportunity to host. so travis mills will be with us in studio tomorrow. wait til you see him live. he'll be here -- rick: i have no doubt that he's going to, he's going to hit all his marks and read the prompter
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with no problem. jenna: he's going to bring his moneymaker to "happening now." rick: you know, the thing i took away listening to kelsey, you know, we think often about the sacrifice that the men and women who serve -- jenna: right. rick: -- put in for our country, but the families that are left behind, the sacrifice that, you know, they're not signing up for this. in a way they are because their loved one is going overseas and defending our country, but in a way they're sort of along for the ride. and the grace and the dignity and the humor and the faith that this family displays is just unbelievable. jenna: kelsey is just plain cool, by the way. she just is. and i love what she said. you think about all the different groups that support, the hospital, and when i asked her that question, where do you turn for support, it's such a great lesson about marriage when she said, i turn to travis. where else are you going to turn? i thought that was really special. so we're learning a lot from them and looking forward to seeing them tomorrow. rick: travis here in the studio tomorrow.
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incredible video of a rocket crash in kaszikstan. the rocket was carrying some very expensive equipment. patti ann brown is at the news desk were more. >> reporter: three satellites were worth $200 million. luckily, russian officials so far are not reporting any casualties or other damage after today's crash of a russian rocket booster. but an emergency minister is quoted as saying a toxic cloud of burning rocket fuel has blanketed the launch pad in kaszikstan. that crash occurred shortly after takeoff from the dome leased by russia. the russian space agency said the unmanned booster unexpectedly shut down the engine just 17 seconds into flight. it crashed more than a mile away. the booster was 17 stories high and was carrying three onboard navigation satellites which are a total loss. video, as you can see, shows the craft veering off course shortly after liftoff, breaking apart in midair and then exploding in a
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fiery blaze once it hits the ground. the rocket was carrying 600 tons of highly toxic kerosene fuel which was spilled when the booster was destroyed. that is according to russia's news service. the potential environmental impact has yet to be determined. people in a town 36 miles away were told to stay home with their windows closed and public shops and cafeterias were also closed according to reuters. rick? rick: wow. patti ann brown in the newsroom with that. thank you so much. and coming up -- jenna: we're going to turn to egypt next. egypt seemingly on the brink of another revolution, or is this a continuation of the one that started two years ago? these are some of the big questions in this. president morsi has just hours to respond to an ultimatum by the country's military leaders. what's next there? we're going to speak to someone on the ground in cairo, that's next.
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jenna: a fox news alert from egypt now where hundreds of thousands, millions of people are on the streets in egypt. you're seeing live pictures in cairo right now, demanding president morsi's resignation. the nation's top generals set a deadline for president morsi to end the standoff with opponents or at least to engage them before military leaders move forward with their own plan. what that is is a big question. there is now less than 24 hours to go until that deadline. our president, president obama, is calling for calm on both sides. >> what we've consistently insisted on is that all parties involved, whether it's members of mr. morsi's party or the opposition, that they remain peaceful. jenna: michael munet is a dual citizen of both egypt and the united states. he's currently the head of egypt's political party and one of the opposition leaders, and he's joining us live from cairo.
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michael, we're taking a look at the wide swath of crowds in the streets of cairo, and we understand that people want an alternative to morsi. but who is that alternative? who would you like to see in power? >> are well, i mean, we want to see morsi go first, and i think i want to go back to what president obama says. i think president obama's making another mistake where he's delaying what he should be actually doing. he should be calling on president morsi to respect the will of the people and to step down peacefully and to pull his supporters that have been trying to terrorize protesters, peaceful protesters from the streets and to just yield to the will of the people. we've seen millions and millions of people since the 30th going on the streets asking for his resignation. this is the only thing that at this stage anybody would accept. nobody from the opposition or the military or anyone else can actually accept anything other than what those millions that
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went out on the streets and are still on the street as we speak are asking for. jenna: but, michael, if i could -- >> we are looking -- jenna: sorry, there's a little delay as well. i just want to jump in here because one of the things our viewers are hearing from people who say the president is making the right move is that morsi was democratically elected by millions of people in the country as well. so how do we support his resignation without knowing what is the future of egypt and what that next government will stand for? >> well, hitler was also democratically elected. i mean, democracy is not just at the ballot box. it's a process. and since the president took office, he completely -- the first thing he did was he issued the constitutional decree putting himself, appointing himself effectively king of egypt. he had all the powers. he hired the general prosecutor that belongs to the muslim brotherhood. he start hiring ministers and cabinets that belong to the
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muslim brotherhood. we even put a terrorist in this a governor position. that guy had been already convicted of killing foreign tourists that came to egypt. and he put him in one of the cities that actually thrives on tourism. so the president has failed. the fact that he's democratically elected does not mean that he did not make mistakes, and he could not be removed by the people. jenna: okay. >> that's the point. it's useless because hitler was democratically elected. jenna: sure, and we understand, and your point's well taken. as we're witnessing this revolution from the outside looking in, one of the questions that still surfaces is what is the egypt that is the next egypt to become? what do you think the government, the true government of the people of egypt will stand for once this revolution -- and it's anyone's best guess when it ends and when it began and all of that -- but what is the ideal egypt of the future?
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>> the ideal egypt is an egypt for all egyptians, islamists and non-islamists alike. minorities, christians, women. what morsi did and the reason everyone's on the street, he forced a constitution on everybody that no one liked, a constitution that's turning egypt into an islamic state. the majority of muslims do not like that constitution, so the best process and the first process to rebuild is to actually draft a new constitution. we can take a little bit of time to have a constitution that is worthy of this revolution, this great nation has put a lot of time and effort, everybody in, in the past two years to make sure that we have democracy, we have religious freedom, we have -- jenna: michael -- >> -- we have respect of the law. jenna: understood, and i just need a quick answer to this, do you want to be president of egypt? >> unfortunately, according to the constitution i can't because i'm also christian. but we have many, many talented
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people that were excluded from the process by the older crowd, the 70 and 80-year-old guys that are still gripping power in egypt and trying. whether it be on opposition, by the way, or in the government. and what we want to see, we want to see a second tier, people in their 40s leading this country. egypt is a country that has stars all over the world. most egyptians that emigrated to the outside world have been extremely successfulful. two advisers of president obama are actually from an egyptian origin. jenna: interesting. >> so what we want to do is we want to make sure those people can come back to egypt and can rebuild egypt. jenna: you have a very interesting story yourself, and we appreciate the time you're taking to share that with you. it's interesting to note that you're not eligible to be president, and that's something we're going to want to learn more about. michael, we look forward to having you back. thank you so much for the time today. >> thank you, and hopefully in the new constitution we can change that.
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rick: all right, thank you very much, sir. when we come back, the george zimmerman murder trial. it's in recess right now, but there's been plenty of gripping testimony to talk about. our analysis from doug and lis when we come right back.
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rick: we're watching the george zimmerman murder trial play out today town in florida. lis wiehl has been joining us, former federal prosecutor, fox news legal analyst, as has douglas burns. okay, let's get a take from both of you. first, the prosecution side. >> okay. when you are forced as a prosecutor to bring in the defendant's best friend and have to, you know, treat him as a hostile witness, that is grasping at desperate straws. things can turn around, maybe they've got something up their sleeves, but it's not a good day so far for the prosecution. rick: and the defense. >> will when you have the voicee
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cannot tell who's saying this and you have the best friend of the defendant testifying for the prosecution, as a defense attorney, you keep your head down, you count your lucky stars, and you keep it short and maybe not even put him on the stand. >> right. rick: this is a trial that we were told would last for about a month or so. we're only -- >> with a sequestered jury. rick: we're only about seven days in the actual testimony. do you see this thing wrapping up quicker? >> i absolutely do. they gave the state a stack of witnesses they might call. they might have something more. but, again, defense? i'm not sure if i were defending this one i would do much at all. i might just say rest the case. rick: and yet this is being televised, so you've got attorneys who like their moment in the spotlight. >> that's a great point because you're sort of conflicted. your client does want you to spend a lot of time cross-examining, but those of us who have done this know that
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sometimes less is more. but i do think the trial's actually moving along at a decent clip, so we'll see. the other point i would make just like flipping dell's advocate -- devil's advocate is we've all been to ball games, one team has a huge lead, so let's not prejudge it. but right now the defense is doing extremely well, in my view. >> these jurors are not going home to their family and friends, so they don't want to have their time wasted at all. rick: you want them on your side. lis and doug can, thank you very much. when the lunch break is over, we will continue streaming the trial live on, and we'll be right back with more "happening now." this is greta. she works in quality control.
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>> travis mill tomorrow. >> right here. >> we should do the whole hour. zimmerman and travis mills, it is a nice mix. >> thank you for joining us everybody. america live starts right now.
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>> fox news alert out of florida, we are less than 30 minutes from the restart of the george zimmerman murder trial after a dramatic morning of watching the prosecution trying to undo the damage to their side by two of their own big witness. welcome to america live, i am megyn kelly; the day started in sanford, florida. testifying the night george zimmerman shot an unarmed trayvon martin. and yfd he testified he did not believe zimmerman at first and he later changed his mind, believing that zimmerman was credible. the prosecution argued that the detective's comment was improper. remember that defense attorney asked him. did you believe that zimmerman was tel


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