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this easy-to-understand guide will answer some of your questions, and help you find the aarp medicare supplement plan that's right for you. this week, get ready for obama care. a look at what to expect when the health insurance exchanges go live on tuesday. plus, he's the man at the center of the budget showdown. just what did senator cruz accomplish this week? and president obama speaks to iran's rohani but will nuclear negotiations be different this time around? welcome to "the journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. well, are you ready for obama care? with health insurance exchanges set to open. waiting to find out just who
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will sign up and what premiums they'll pay. president obama said this week he has no doubt it will succeed. >> what we are confident about is when people look and see they can get high quality affordable health care for less than their cell phone bill, they're going to sign up. >> joining the panel this week, "wall street journal" columnist and deputy editor dan henninger. so, joe, you heard the president's optimism. what do you expect to happen on tuesday? >> well, i think we're expecting a very choppy rollout here. very disruptive. we've seen a lot of delays this week. the d.c. health exchange said it wouldn't be able to perform core functions. i think we're going to see the same thing in the 34 states where the federal government is
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running the exchanges in lieu of the governors and a lot of problems overtime. now, that said, everyone's expecting this to be such a mess that they're really judging it with the soft bigotry of low expectations. >> all right, what about the premiums? are people going to pay more than they would be paying in the private marketplace or less than the president asserts? >> the answer's both, depending on where you live and how much income you make and how healthy you are. in general, i think premiums are going to be about 20 to 30% higher on average than they are in the individual market today. that will be offset a little bit by the subsidies for some people. but some people are also on the hook, the younger and healthier people are on the hook, people, peopleextensive. in some cases, less, depending who you are.
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>> one of the interesting things here is private insurance, some of the big private insurance, like aetna for xap peexample, a not participating in these exchanges, these government-run exchanges. aetna isn't even participating in connecticut. >> the exchanges are supposedly marketplaces but they're really marketplaces for political competition. the health and human services department and state insurance custom commissioners have been saying regulations are going to increase the cost. we need you to find ways to offset some of that, to hit the cheapest price points that you can. so the insurers that are running -- that are offering policies on the exchange, are really the contractors who currently run medicaid in a lot of states. so we've been talking about rate shock here. people are going to see what i think is going to be benefit shock. where they're going to have very limited networks of doctors, hospitals and other providers.
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and just not a lot of choices in return for some of these discounts. >> that's why the products on these exchanges, so-called medicaid plus. what's the big fear inside the obama administration about this rollout? what are they really worried about most? >> well, you know, the problem here for democrats, they have been telling themselves for years, you know, our problem politically is we're running against a law that has not even yet started. people don't like it. and so when they finally get it, they will understand how great it is. the big fear is that is not going to be the case. and that as you have benefit shock and price shock and you lose your doctor and combined with people -- layoffs at companies trying to avoid being hit by this law, reduced hours, that there is going to be a public revolt against this, which is going to be reflected in next year's midterm elections.
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>> right, but the history of entitlements, social security, medicare, medicaid, is that despite initial glitches, people come to love the free lunch. they love the subsidies and they warm to it. is that going to happen again this time? >> i don't think so. let me put it this way. who are you going to believe about obama care? joe rago or barack obama? because we just heard the president of the united states say this will provide high quality health care for less than the cost of your cell phone bill, okay. and now the question is, is that going to happen? i think the consensus is, it's going to be complexion, it is going to falter, it's going to be a mess. i don't think this entitlement is going to become as entrenched as social security did. >> you wrote this week in a piece, let obama care fail. this thing is going to fail of its own accord in essence. it's just too big and too
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complicated. explain your argument. >> well, i said let it collapse. now, it may not literally collapse. it may not literally fail. but i think it's going to be a very poor federal program. poor health care program. there's going to be enormous problems such as people discovering they only have a limited number of doctors to choose from or getting their bills paid is going to be complicated. when that starts happening, people are going to start looking for alternatives. i think that's the point. when conservatives and republicanspeople, this was a b entitlement. we have to look for alternatives to the entitlement state and having the federal government provide services like this. >> what do you think ultimately is going to happen? you share dan's belief that it's going to collapse? >> no, i mean, think its problems are going to create an opportunity for a real
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alternative. government failure is usually solved by another regulation and then that failure is solved by another regulation. so i think the problems that we're going to see in practice with the affordable care act, if there isn't a real alternative offered from the republicans, democrats are going to come in and say, well, all doctors and hospitals need to accept government coverage. >> okay. all right. thank you, all. when we come back, one republican senator making his opposition to obama care. the centerpiece of the federal budget fight. so what did ted cruz accomplish this week with with his 21-hour floor speech? i want peacocks. peacocks? walking the grounds. in tuscany. [ man ] her parents didn't expect her dreams to be so ambitious. italy? oh, that's not good. [ man ] by exploring their options, they learned that instead of going to italy,
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defunding obama care. until i am no longer able to stand. >> texas senator ted cruz, the republican at the center of the budget showdown, kicking off a 21-hour floor speech tuesday aimed at drawing attention to his efforts to defund obama care. but his tactics are instead drawing fire. predictably from those on the left but also from many on the right. we're back with dan headinger and kim stozle and "wall street journal" political editor jason riley also joins the panel. kim, the senator said his goal is to defund obama care. is he making any progress toward that end. >> no. here's what senator cruz did this week. he kept the focus on, surprise surprise, senator cruz. more importantly, on republicans. and this has been the big problem here. is that what we need to have happen, if you're a conservative and you don't like this law, then the goal here should be to make, as we just talked about,
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making democrats own a law that is proving very problematic and painful for many americans. and one of the results of this entire defund campaign has been there has been no attention for months paid on democrats, in particular, vulnerable senate democrats who come from red states who are up for elections next year. these are people like mark pryor in arkansas, mary landrieu in louisiana, to feel the pressure to vote in some way to delay or change this law. but nobody's talking about that. >> you're saying there's zero chance the republicans will succeed in defunding obama care during this fight? >> not if the leverage is government shutdown. because americans don't generally agree with that. the president intends to veto anything like that. this is his signature achievement. the question is whether or not republicans can find some sort of leverage that does give them some sort of changes, delay or
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in some way help them with the law. >> it does seem cruz is tapping into a grassroots sentiment of frustration with washington. there really are a lot of people who say, look at the republican leadership and say, you know what, you're not fighting hard enough. and he's tapping into that frustration. and being backed by some activist groups and of course the talk radio crowd which likes this populist ground swell. is he on to something here, cruz? >> i think a lot of people agree with him. a lot of people are frustrated. >> we want to defund obama care too. >> right, and the issue here is his tactics. the long-term republican strategy for defunding obama care is winning elections. first next year in the midterms and then ultimately the presidency. that is the only way you're going to really push back or start to roll back obama care. what ted cruz has managed to do is isolate people who agree with
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that goal in his own caucus. that simply isn't helpful. particularly to the extent that it's taking the focus off of the fights republicans have a shot at winning in the short term. there are senators like tom c e coburn and vitter who have put together these things for a delay. pointing out how members of congress and their staff are trying to put loopholes in the law that exempt them. that is where obama care is vulnerable. that's where the leave raverage be had and used. >> what about cruz? some of this is -- he's almost clear in saying he would like to run in 2016 and this is helping raise his profile to run for president. did he help his personal political stature this week? >> well, that remains to be seen. i mean, let's focus on the fact that there was an enormous political element here.
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to run for president, you need an enormous amount of national publicity and you need it fast. there's a school of thought that says if you can get in there early and perhaps win in iowa, in new hampshire, you immediately become the odd es on favorite for the nomination. if it's a bloodless strategy, he's doing a good job of running it. look, we're living in a media age and the media loves media savvy celebrities. so far are he's showing he has that ability. >> kip what do you think about how cruz has helped himself or hurt himself? a lot of the republican colleagues in the senate don't agree with what he's doing. but, hey, they don't vote in iowa. >> we, right, and here's why some people have used the word "cynicism" with regard to this. there's an enormous frustration out there among conservatives in the base. they lost last year's election with a candidate who wasn't a great candidate, mitt romney. they felt the rnc let them down. they were completely outmatched by the obama team. they want change in washington.
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so what senator cruz has done, and i don't think anyone can argue against this, he has elevated his profile but he's done it very specifically by beating on his own colleagues in the republican party. and that sounds good with the base out there, but in the longer run, you know, you need lots and lots of friends to run for president. >> the next ronald reagan -- >> i don't think so. reagan united the party. he didn't isolate his allies in the interest of self-promotion. what cruz is also doing is even more damaging, he's giving reid and the democrats an excuse to bust the spending caps and to use that leverage. that is the best leverage republicans have to bring down spending. it's working. >> okay, jason. when we come back, an historic phone call between presidents obama and rohani. ♪
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iran's new president hasan rohani made his debut on the world stage this week when he addressed the united nations general assembly. and a series of other speeches and meetings in new york. notably none with barack obama. the white house offered an informal encounter between the two leaders. something iranian officials rejected. the two leaders finally connected in a 15-minute phone call. the first communication between an american and an iranian president since 1979. global view columnist join us with more. why this new enthusiasm from the iranians for negotiations? >> i think they get the sense
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the united states really would like to make a deal. obama has given every indication he wants to shake rohani's hand, he wants to set a new tone in relations. there's the american debacle with syria. which the united states walked away from what appeared to be an imminent military strike which shows just how little appetite there is in the u.s. for any kind of strike on iran as well. so they see an america that's willing to play. >> that isn't what the administration says. the administration says, look, the sanctions are working. the iranians are under pressure. and now that's why they're doing it. and this new president, rohani, a new moderate voice. he's impressed the rest of the iranian leadership with how well he did in the election. they're willing to say, all right, see if you can cut a deal. >> we've had sanctions against iran for a very long time. and i keep -- we've been hearing about how the sanctions have been working for years and years with no change in the iranian
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behavior. as for rohani, people forget that more than 600 candidates for president were deselected by the regime before they found six acceptable people. rohani has been a creature of this administration. he was a top aide to the eye tolly hoe matol ly khomeini going back 30 years. there's no question he looks different. he speaks in softer tones. if you listen to what he says, there's relatively little difference in substance from his predecessor. >> what do the iranians hope to get out of this? if brett is right, that there really isn't much change in their approach? >> they want to but the plug on the pressure that has been on them. the sanctions, you know, they're like down to 1 million barrels a day. inflation. they have a restless population. they would like to get out from under that. in the last tenure years, they e
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spent $100 billion on this nuclearprogram, it is a huge commitment, their key to ascending to power in the middle east, nuclear capability. i think they are certainly willing to enter into negotiations with a sort of compliant obama administration. but i don't think there's any possibility of actually ending the eiranian nuclear program. it's going to be like north korea where we talk for a very long time without ending it. >> the key phrase, nuclear capability. for a long time, there was a debate whether iran wanted a nuclear weapon or simply nuclear capability. a country like japan that can produce many nuclear weapons in a very short -- >> right on the edge of a breakout capacity. >> precisely. perhaps the debate resolved at least for the tyime being withi iran's political circle is they would be content with the nuclear capability, being right on the edge. rohani said, we well never
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negotiate away our right to enrich uranium. that will rovover time become invulnerable to any kind of strike should they move to weapons. >> do you think the obama administration is willing to accept that kind of a capability, near breakout capacity, in return for a promise of not building a bomb? >> well, that's -- the obama administration has been all but explicit about that. the wild card is of course the israelis who have insisted that a nuclear capability for them is tantamount to a nuclear iran. i think in this sense, the israelis are right. because what people forget is that possession a nuclear capability amounts to use. no country's really used their nuclear weapons but by possessing them it gives then the freedom of regional action, prestige, authority and deterrence that you don't have if you're not at that stage. >> briefly, is there going to be a deal? >> i don't think so. >> okay, all right.
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time now for hits and misses of the week. >> this is a hit to larry ellison and his sailing team oracle. they were contesting the america's cup against new zealand and were down 8-1 and made an astonishing comeback to take the cup. people talk a lot about the engineering that goes into these amazingly fast boats. there's no doubt there's a great deal of engineering involved. there's also a lot of seamanship and heart. congratulations. >> all right, joe. >> paul, a big hit this week to bill gates who apologized for control/alt/delete. instead using one key to log on to your pc, in microsoft early days, he chose three.
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so control/alt/delete has persisted for no reason. it's a testament to how powerful enginei intertia is in human life. >> miss to hillary clinton who endorsed de blasio in new york. he spent the 1980s in nicaragua helping fight u.s. allies down there. hillary clinton is probably going to run for president in 2016 and probably going to run as a moderate but episodes like this tell you where her heart is. >> so does joe load da, the republican, whose challenging running against deblajo have a chance to rally and beat hip? >> democrats outnumber republicans in new york 6-1 so it's an uphill fight. >> all right. thank you. cheers in malibu for the america's cup. remember, if you have your own hit or miss, please send it to us. be sure to follow us on twitter.
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@jeronfnc. hope to see you right here next week. fox news alert on the impending showdown in the nation's capital. the countdown is well on its way this hour to a government shutdown come midnight on monday. house republicans meeting for a rare weekend session, rejecting the senate bill that will keep the lights on for another 45 days and keep obama care intact. instead, they're preparing to vote on their own version today. delaying obama care by one year before throwing the issue back to the u.s. senate. all of this of course setting up a standoff with president obama himself who says he will not sign anything that takes away funding from his signature legislation. >> i would have said a week a

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