tv Justice With Judge Jeanine FOX News February 15, 2014 6:00pm-7:01pm PST
lucky to come out with a commemorative t-shirt. from new york, this is mike huckabee. good night and god bless. stay tuned for "judge janine." hello and welcome to justice. i'm judge jeanine pirro. tonight another obama delay. first my open. president barack obama is using you as an excuse to be a lawless president, hurting you, me and the very essence of our system of government. and in the process, our nation as well. the latest example? this week he signs into law a raise in the minimum wage. albeit in the future for federal contract employees only. now, to some of you, this could
be a good thing. but that's not the point. this is about power. the blatant pervasive and unapologetic power grab and the abuse of the office of the president. he uses as an excuse that he just can't wait for congress to act, so he's going to get in there and do it himself. he makes believe that congress won't work with him when, in truth, he is the one that won't work with congress. he thumbs his nose at congress, saying he's got a pen and a phone. well, mr. president, how about you use that phone to make a local call? to congress and offer to work with them instead of trashing everyone and creating a divisive, bitter atmosphere in washington and the rest of the country. but then again, this president has no leadership skills. anyone who even considers saying the following doesn't even know how to be a leader.
>> i'm the president. i can do whatever i want. i've got a pen and i've got a phone and that's all i need. >> who talks like that? this is a democracy. this is the united states of america. our founders broke from a king, from a monarchy so that we could be a government of, by and for the people. instead we have a president who ignores laws against warrantless wiretapping, and then even sanctions his administration's perjury about that very wiretapping. we have a president who signs laws he doesn't intend to follow, who changes laws that congress legally enacts and then uses executive orders somewhere in the middle to do whatever the hell he pleeases. and this week he requires companies to swear to the irs that they are not hiring or firing employees based on the impact of obamacare on their
bottom line. what business of the government is it how an employer chooses to staff a private business? so now the irs not only knows everything about our health, and the nsa knows everything about us and everyone we talk to, but now businesses, private businesses, are required to be transparent and not blame obamacare for their failing business or their reduction in employees. to me, that's bullying. it's intimidation that rises to the level of a dictatorship. the president even arbitrarily decides what laws law enforcement agencies should enforce. in 2012, his dream act prevented immigrations, customs and enforcement from doing their job, deporting illegals, which would be fine if congress passed a law. how can you be the chief executive officer and block
enforcement agencies from their statutorily mandated obligations? president obama takes no blame. >> that's not how our democracy functions. that's not how our constitution is written. so let's be honest, i need a dance partner here. and the floor is empty. >> but according to congress, mr. president, you don't even show up at the dance. you are not only killing the ability of congress to pass laws that reflect the will of the american people, but you are wrecking every semblance of legal foundation upon which this country was founded. candidate obama said -- >> the biggest problems that we're facing right now have to do with george bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through congress at all. and that's what i intend to reverse when i'm president of the united states of america.
>> i guess he changed his mind. this is not the first or the last time the president has or will mislead us. so why care? let me ask you this. do you remember when your kids were little and they started testing the boundaries when they would do or say things that got worse and worse? at some point as a parent, you had to step in and stop them. they needed to learn. imagine what would have happened if you didn't step in, if you didn't stop them? now think about it. the president is the most powerful man on the planet. he said it himself. he'll do what he wants. what's the next thing he's going to do? and the one after that? and the one after that? where does it all end? that's my opening. and with me, conservative columnist and author of "never trust a liberal over 3," ann
coulter. all right, ann, where does it all end? >> it's already pretty bad. it's not like we're at the top of the slippery slope, we're already at the bottom. i think the three biggest issues of alarming unconstitutional behavior is obama's disregard of the obamacare law, disregard of immigration laws and disregard of the drug laws. look, we have a constitution that specifically gives to the legislative branch, weirdly enough called the legislative branch, the right to write legislation. it's carefully calibrated. you have two senators from each state, six years in congressmen. >> and the three equal branches of government. >> right. and consider -- i mean, different branches have different rules. in terms of writing legislation, the president's rule is quite clearly laid out as he sort of indicates but then ignores with his pen, with his veto pen. that is his role. then he has a phone.
he can call congressmen, he can call senators and say, this is what i like in the law. but other than that, he has no role in writing legislation. he is vetoing legislation by refusing to enforce it. the constitution demands that the president of the united states take care that the laws be faithfully executed. he has simply taken it upon himself to rewrite obamacare, to rewrite immigration laws, you indicated with the dreamers thing, to rewrite drug laws. now we're not -- colorado ask wa washington, sure, just legalize drugs that congress has written and made illegal. this is the bottom of the slippery slope, and i think he would be impeached if he weren't america's first black president. >> you know, a couple of thoughts, ann. number one, obamacare is a law he wrote that he keeps changing, even though it was supposed to start on a particular date. there is no am by -- ambiguity
the word shall and the date. every president will do what he wants. is there a difference? >> yes. of course a president can issue executive orders in order to regulate the executive branch. probably 99% of executive orders are of no interest to anyone. it has to do with what kind of typewriter do the secretaries within the executive branch use? those executive orders are irrelevant when your executive order is rewriting legislation. that is what violates the constitution. and it's ironic and it's worth needling him over it, but it doesn't matter who signs the law. it doesn't matter if you like the law. ask andrew johnson, it doest matter if the law is unconstitutional. if that's what the law is, the president is required to take care that it be faithfully
executed. and obama is just coming up with all new laws. it really is a shocking, abusive power. >> so ann, what can be done? if this really is sobe i don't understand what every other president does in terms of executive orders -- and by the way, he's a lawyer. he alleges he's a constitutional professor, but he's a lawyer, he knows the law. every lawyer i know understands that this is not the way a president is supposed to act. so what can you do? >> well, i mean, any honest liberal lawyer or any honest liberal who has read the constitution will tell you this is completely beyond the purview of the powers of the president. i mean, technically, yeah, the constitutional response is, is it impeachment? i suppose there may be something that congress could do with the purse, but not with the senate in democrat hand. i mean, unfortunately, and i hate to say this, the constitution isn't supposed to be overruled by political correctness, but i wasn't joking
at the beginning. i just -- the first black president is not going to be impeached. so let's just hope the next president is at least subjected to the threat of impeachment so that he won't take over the legislature's powers. >> and let's just hope that 2016 comes sooner that it really will be coming. ann coulter, thanks so much for being with us tonight. coming up, he's now a defendant. the president got served. why one senator is suing the commander in chief over the nsa's spying program. and worldwide outrage. after a zoo in denmark kills a healthy giraffe and feeds him to the lions. you won't want to miss my closing statement on this one. and what do you think? is killing a healthy giraffe in front of children and feeding him to lions educational? facebook or tweet me at judge
there's a huge and growing swell of protest in this country of people who are outraged that their records would be taken without suspicion, without a judge's warrant, and without individualization. this, we believe, will be a historic lawsuit. >> that's kentucky senator rand paul who, along with freedom works, announced their class action lawsuit against president obama over the nsa's domestic spying program. so will the lawsuit protect our fourth amendment rights? with me freedom works president matt kibby and jay sarks kelow. matt, sue the president. how often is that done? >> it's not done often, and this particular case i think is
historic because pending certification is every single american who has made a phone call, either on a cell phone orland line, since 2006. we're talking upwards of 300, 400 million people. that's why this matters so much, because so many people's rights have been violated. >> jay, i'll go to you. the administration says they need the nsa program to keep us safe. is there evidence they've done that? >> it's one thing to have information through intelligence gathering, which i support. it's another thing to have a program without limits that has not only no limits, but no real cognitive connection between what they're trying to prevent. in other words, if they're trying to prevent international acts of terror or even domestic acts of terror, there should be a criteria that's put in place for data gathering of t. that's absent here. you take a perfect example of
the tsarnaev brothers in the boston marathon. >> it's worse than that. the government told us twice. i'm not going to get going on that. what is the reaction? there are so many americans affected. how are people responding? how do people become part of this class action? >> we're going to have representatives of the class, and we're going to be very careful how we organize that to make sure this case is credible. but public opinion and public education and a basic understanding of our rights under the bill of rights, and particularly the fourth amendment, that's what this is all about. and i think that's going to help move us forward. >> well, you know, speaking of the fourth amendment, jay, the question is, is the gathering of the metadata or the numbers, that as invasive or as illegal as actually listening to the
conversations? is it an invasion of your privacy as it relates to your telephone records? >> certainly that's the argument matt and the class are going to make, that there is an invasion of privacy with regard to this information. that's number one. number two, you have the constitution issue, there's also a stat to hutory issue. i think it's a constitutional issue but a statutory one as well. and there's got to be a connection between the data you're gathering and what you're trying to prevent. what's happening here is as this nsa program has expanded since the patriotic days, it's gone beyond to where every american is involved here. >> jay, sorry to interrupt you, but what do you think they're thinking? they can't prove to congress in any way, shape or form that the
collection of this information has helped us in fending off any kind of terrorist attack. they couldn't come up with one. so why are they doing this? what are they doing with this information other than lying and saying they don't really collect it. >> they're operating under the theory that if you just have data, somehow you'll be able to draw the causal kiconnection. the fact of the matter is, from an intelligence gathering device, that hasn't been shown to be successful. again, it goes back to what is the harm you're trying prevent, and is this a reasonable way of doing it? it's beyond the expectation of privacy, by the way. it's what is this actually doing? what is the data going to do? they haven't been able to prove anything to congress, and i think that's part of the problem. >> matt, with respect to the class action itself, are there specific allegations in your lawsuit of the government actually listening in on some conversations? >> well, the problem is they've been gathering everybody's data. it's been completely
indiscrimina indiscriminate, and all of us who are innocent have been targeted in this mass collection of metadata and that's the problem. >> all right, matt and jay, thanks for being with us tonight. >> thanks, judge. and we're joined to explain why he thinks obamacare should be scrapped altogether. ♪ ♪ i'm bethand i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage. it's a stationery and gifts store. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink.
another day, another obamacare delay. the president just can't stop rewriting his failing health care law. this week another delay from the employer mandate. and now businesses have to swear to the irs that they're layoffs have nothing to do with obamacare. really? i have an idea. how about the president call it a day, wave the white flag,
surrender. he'll sign another executive order and exempt the entire country from obamacare. with me, ceo zain tankle who owns about 33 apple bbee's in t country. zain, thanks for joining me. what effect does obamacare have on your business? >> my concern, jeanine, is really about all the people he claims he's helping. those are the people he's hurting. when i used to ask people if they know what obamacare was, they would say, sure. obama cares. now they know it's going to cost them some money, and obama doesn't care so much. it's hurting the exact people employers -- i'm not -- i want to make it clear i'm not, but employers are shrinking people down. obviously, the budget office has just said 2.5 million people over the next 10 years are going to leave full-time employment
and go to part-time because they can now get the entitlement of health care, and that retards the economy, it retards gdp, retards the growth of it. i'm concerned about america. not republican, not democrat, about all the people that he claims, and he claims he's a great orator, he's just not a performer. >> you say you have 4,000 employees in applebee's. how does that affect them? as an employer, let's talk about you first. do you have to now swear you're not making any business decisions based on the need to give them obamacare or the health care? >> you know, judge, that's a good question. the problem is that it's still unfolding. nobody really knows what any of this is. it's broken, it's the oa. now 70%, if you're under -- let me give you an example. if you're under 100 employees, only 70% have to be signed up.
how do you pick the 70? i like you, you get obamacare. what about the 30 that are left out? >> and who pays for them? >> who pays for them. it's becoming more and more transparent, it's becoming more and more clear that he just doesn't know how to go do it. he's probably a really nice guy, and he really knows how to get elected president, he's demonstrated that, he's just not competent when it comes to running the country. >> and what about when you have to swear you're not making any decisions on the basis of your health care. how does that strike you? >> it strikes me as a banana republic dicktatatorship. >> and what is this doing to the american work ethic? >> it's absolutely gutting it. there was a study we did that said 70% of all working
americans are unengaged because -- well, for example, we provided health care for all of our people. it doesn't fit the profile of what the president said health care should be. they all had to come off of it. so they no longer have an employer-employee relationship, they get it from the government. the president stood up and he said, let's give america a raise, america. did he give them any raises? he went to everybody else so people are getting this zombie nation kind of mentality that the president gives it to you. >> gotta wrap. zain, it's good to talk with you. we're fwg to hagoing to have yo this one. fas na fascinating conversation. the dems are running as fast as they can. do they stand a chance? stay with us. amily pricing. that's 100 bucks cheaper than us. i know. are you guys with verizon? what makes you think that?
oh. just her nametag. and i see you guys at the food court every day. can we go back now? yeah. [ male announr ] introducing our best-ever pricing for families. 10 gigs of data to share. unlimited talk and text. and 4 lines for $160 a month. only from at&t. i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male anner ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh, what a relief it is!
plus h♪s a fast-acting antihistamine. they lived ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ (dad) we lived... thanks to our subaru. ♪ (announcer) love. it's what mas a subaru, a subaru. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that parker. well, did you know auctioneers make bad grocery store clerks? that'll be $23.50. now .75, 23.75, hold 'em.
hey now do i hear 23.75? 24! hey 24 dollar, 24 and a quarter, quarter, now half, 24 and a half and .75! 25! now a quarter, hey 26 and a quarter, do you wanna pay now, you wanna do it, 25 and a quarter - sold to the man in the khaki jacket! geico. fifteen minutes could save you... well, you know. cozy or cool "mw" or "woof"? exactly the way you want it ... until boom! your mattress a battleground of thwarted desire. enter the sleep number bed. an innovative design that lets couples sleep together in individualized comfort. he's the sty: his sleep number setting is 35. you're the rock, at 60. as your needs change, you can adjust your sleep number bed, so you can sleep better together. visit one of our 425 stores for the the largest closeout event of the year with 50% savings on innovation limited edition beds. know better sleep with sleep number. looifr from america's news
headquarters, i'm maris faulkner. they will retry a man who shot and killed a teenager over loud music. jurors found 47-year-old michael dunn on four counts. they couldn't come up with a decision on the first degree murder charge. dunn shot jordan travis as he and his friends sat at a gas station listening to music. he faces 60 years in prison. workers at the volkswagen plant in tennessee have voted against big labor, against the united auto workers. one employee said he and his colleagues were not wanting to risk hurting their place of employment. they also feared a union victory would scare away factory jobs. now back to justice jeanine.
democrats are struggling to distance themselves from obamacare and the obama disaster. congresswoman blackburn, do you think if the dems distance themselves from the president that they're going to have a shot at winning back the house? >> i don't. because the damage is already done. and when you look at a couple of things, judge, 71% of all the american people think this business of the president saying, i've got a pen and a phone and i can go around congress, they find that offensive because they have elected people to represent them in washington. and the president is to be working with us. and secondly, the damage from obamacare. they like to say all these people are getting access to insurance. 6.6 million americans have already lost their health insurance, and more is yet to come. >> there's no question. >> all the insurance agents say, rate shock in 2014 is nothing compared to what it's going to be in 2015. and when those notices come out in september and october of 2014
about the 2015 rates right before the election, so the damage is done. >> what about the democrats who try to distance themselves from the president? what can he do to try to keep everyone in line? does he have any leverage or is he just a complete lame duck? >> i think you're looking at a lame duck presidency. this is when they try to do everything by executive order. they're into this spiral now. they do the executive orders, they make everybody angry, and then they come back around and they try to say, well, we're going to give you a little bit more of this and that, and 91% of the american people say jobs in the economy. this is what they want to talk about. they're concerned about the national debt. so i think that they are on the wrong track. most people know the country is on the wrong track, and they're looking for solutions and answers. they want to get things done. >> but this week, interestingly enough, to go to the other side, congresswoman, we've seen the
republicans who, with the latest debt ceiling thing, decided to kind of stay quiet unlike what they did in december. so now we've got infighting among the republicans as it relates to ted cruz. what impact is ted cruz going to have on the republican party and the 2014 elections? >> you know, i've been all over my district the last few days in tennessee, and meeting with people, whether they're independent d independent, democrat or republican, they will say repeatedly that republicans need to stop the fighting and they don't want to see this infighting. they want us to realize we have a common enemy in those that are trying to take away the power of the people through their elected representatives. and what they want us to do is focus on getting the country back on the right track. i'd say you can pretty much boil the arguments down to five things. faith, family, freedom, hope and opportunity. >> last question.
how do you keep ted cruz from creating this infighting in the republican party? >> i don't think that you're going to see that infighting. i think most people have decided that it is time for us to all push the same direction -- >> but he hasn't. >> well, i've got to tell you, i think that he is going to be right there with everybody else. i've got a lot of tea party supporters, i've got a lot of moderate republican supporters, i'm the most conservative female in washington, and people repeatedly say, let's focus on the problems, jobs, economy, obamacare and get something solved. >> congresswoman, blackburn, good to see you. >> thank you. it looks like there is a new game in d.c. who wants to buy an ambassadorship? the debate is raging over the qualifications of the president's nominees for different ambassador positions.
some have never been to the country of their proposed ambassadorship. why were these people nominated in the first place? >> is there a rule the ambassador can't set foot in the country he's going to be ambassador in? would it ruin the surprise? the argentinian raised $500,000, and nancy pelosi told me personally that only republicans are corrupt. it would also mean that iceland times more than argentina. >> with me radio talk show host mike slater and democratic strategist christian dorsey. gentlemen, thanks for being with me this morning. mike, i'll start with you. the presidential campaign to an ambassad ambassadorship. shouldn't there be a higher bar for a position of this kind? >> of course.
the president back in 2008 made a campaign promise that he is going to restore the image of america around the world. you would think that would mean not nominating ambassadors who have never been to the country before. that's an insult to these countries around the world. i mean, how is that improving our relations around the world? >> christian, how do you respond to that? isn't this something all presidents do, christian? >> yes. yes, judge. this is not something that's new. it's something every president has done and it's something every four or eight years we have new shows talking about how silly and ridiculous it is. let's all take a pill here. we just celebrated the passing away of shirley temple, someone who had a later career as a diplomat that was well regarded but whose only qualification for becoming a diplomat in the first place was she was a world famous star. let's all relax a bit. >> a president is supposed to be the most transparent president in history, he's supposed to set to a higher standard as a
president, and that's no excuse to still be doing the wrong behavior like this. >> go ahead, christian. >> max baucus said, i am no expert on china. this is serious, this isn't iceland or norway, this is china! it's dangerous. >> when you think about what happened in libya, and you talk about ambassador chris stepheef and may he rest in peace, obviously, but this was a guy who loved his country, he loved what he was doing. so doesn't it make you feel that when we see this, this is the best representation of america to the country to whom the ambassador is being sent. i get the bungler thing, i think it's outrageous, but if you don't know the country, you've never been there, you should be ashamed to appear before congress. but let me move on. >> i agree with you on that. they should have been ashamed because they should have been coached up to talk a little bit
better at their senate hearings. absolutely. absolutely. >> we had ann coulter on a little earlier saying the president crossed the line when it comes to executive orders. is he? >> oh, my goodness, the erosion to the separation of powers is incredible. i almost blame the american people on this more than the president himself. men will always want power, but the american people are more and more outsourcing more responsibility into the office of the president, and again, vice versa, if the republican president was doing this, then the left would be outraged at the erosion of our constitution. and we should be outraged this time. >> christian, do you think the president's actions are creating a new precedent for an abuse of power? >> absolutely not. i've been following executive power, you know, for a long time, and quite frankly, president obama is no different than any other president. to suggest otherwise is completely irrational. there is nothing he's done that hasn't built upon the precedent that's been built on by every president before him. >> chris, i want to ask you a
question. the guy is a lawyer. the president cannot change a law that he wrote and then decide, you know what, i'm just going to change it. he can't do that. >> he hasn't changed it, he's just operating within the bounds of what the law allowed him to do. >> christian, does the law say that it shall take effect on a particular date, yes or no? >> and it gives him authority to determine whether or not those are met. it's in the law itself. you have to read it. i know it's 2,000 pages, but it's in there. >> i don't believe you. 2016. hillary clinton. is she the fair-haired lady. some say she's too old. is she? >> if you gave me a steno pad and 10 minutes, i could write down 100 reasons why she would be the worst president ever. age, i don't think, is even on that list. there are plenty of reasons we could make on hilary. >> christian? >> ronald reagan was the same age when he became president
that we're talking about with hillary. is it a sexism thing? i don't get it. >> mike and christian, good to have you both back. thanks for being with us tonight. >> thank you, judge. a monster storm causing havoc and power outages all over the country. what if the lights couldn't be turned back on? our continued investigation into the vulnerability of the u.s. power grid, next. welcome back. how is everything?
there's nothing like being your own boss! and my customers are really liking your flat rate shipping. fedex one rate. really makes my life easier. maybe a promotion is in order. good news. i got a new title. and a raise? management couldn't make that happen. [ male announcer ] introducing fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex.
crestor got more high-risk patient bad cholesterol to a goal of under 100. way to go, crestor! yh! tting to goal is a big deal, especially if you have high cholesterol plus any of these risk factors. because you could be at increased risk for plaque buildup in your arteries over time. so, when diet a exercise aren't engh to lower cholterol, adding crestor can help. go, crestor! ♪ ♪ oh, yeah [ female announcer ] crestor is not right for everyone, like peoplwith liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor about other medicines you'rtang. call your doctor rht away
if you have muscle pain or weakness, fl unusually tired, have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine, or yellowing of skin eyes. these could be sig of rare but seris side effects. crestor! yes! [ female announcer ] ask your doctor about crestor. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca y be able toelp. like a ramen noodle- every-night budget. she thought allstate car insurance was out of her reach. until she heard about the value plan. see how much you could save with allstate. are you in good hands?
a deadly winter storm is taking its toll this week from texas to new england, producing severe power outages for hundreds of thousands of us. how difficult, in freezing conditions, is it to get the power back on? with me the chairman of the foundation for resilient societies, a non-profit group that add voluntavocates protect american grid from natural or massive disasters. without talking specifically about terrorism, solar flares, emps, deadly storms have been causing major weather-related power outages. how severe do these storms get, and how do they create an outage? >> well, the storms can be actually quite severe and create outages for millions of people. in the winter time, the outages are caused by snow getting on
trees which then fall on local neighborhood power lines, or a more serious circumstance, sometimes we get freezing rain that can accumulate on transmission lines. when that happens, a lot more people can be affected by the outage. >> and how does it actually affect the grid itself? how does it become bigger than just that branch that may be iced up falling on a power line? >> if they get a transmission line that's taken out, it can actually bring generation plants off line. i'll give you an example. nuclear power plants need to be connected to a functioning grid so they can operate safely. we had a situation in new england last winter where a storm came through, knocked off one of the transmission lines going to the nuclear power plant. that then knocked the nuclear power plant off line. it actually caused an electricity shortage here in new england, and we narrowly avoided a major blackout. so there are certainly circumstances where you can have a bit of a cascading effect during these major storms and
really get either to the verge of a major blackout or actually a real blackout. >> and then let's assume there was a problem, say a significant problem. why does it take so long to get the lines back up and running? i mean, if we know what's there and we know -- why does it take so long? >> the electric utility companies staff their line crews for normal circumstances. when you have a big storm that comes through, you may have thousands of locations that are without power, and so they don't have enough staff. typically there is mutual assistance agreements where they bring if line crews from neighboring states. during hurricane sandy, 67,000 line crews were brought in from all over the country. in some cases they were actually loaded with their bucket trucks onto military transports and flown into the sandy disaster area. when there is a lot of individual neighborhoods that
are knocked out, it just takes a long time to get to all those neighborhoods. if you have a transmission line that goes down, that's a complicated situation, too. >> finally, tom, does the enormity and the uniqueness of these storms have the potential to create a bad scenario or the worst case scenario that you could imagine? taking down the whole grid? >> in winter storms, the electric utilities do a pretty good job. what we're concerned about more than winter storms is a situation called lto or long-term outage. that's when the electricity goes out for long enough, it brings down not only the grid but also the telecommunication systems and the natural gas pipelines. then you get a very difficult situation that our country really hasn't experienced before. >> all right, tom poppit, thank you so much. we'll have more on the power grid next weekend in our hour-long investigation into the power grid danger. and coming up, i have a message for those in denmark who
everyone who knows me knows i'm an animal lover. in my stable, dogs, birds, pigs. my pig wilbur lived to the ripe old age of 19. as a district attorney, i prosecuted animal cruelty with a vengeance, and crusaded to change laws to protect animals and punish their abusers. so i was seething when i heard about what a denmark zoo did to a young giraffe this week. imagine a 2-year-old giraffe
having his favorite breakfast, then taken down, shot in the head, dissected, sawed, quartered, skinned, and offered to lions who continued to tear him apart as a crowd, including small children, watched in horror. you may ask was a giraffe diseased? genetically inferior? might he have been a danger to the other animals? could the zoo not afford to keep him? the answer to each question -- no! the too's reason for the slaughter, "his genes were well represented in the zoo population." yet adoption offers poured in from other zoos around the world. one in the uk with a state of the art giraffe house. money offers as high as $600,000 from animal lovers willing to take the giraffe. the zoo's response? "there might be some inbreeding
in another zoo." i don't know what you're thinking, but there's a procedure called spaing, neutering, we do it all the time. why did you breed this giraffe in the first place? but it gets even better, folks. after worldwide outrage, the spokesman for the zoo says, i'm actually proud because we've given a huge understanding of the anatomy of a giraffe and we're here to educate people. it's a good way to show people what a giraffe looks like and the children and the audience were fascinated. fascinated? i have an idea. why not just slap a picture of a giraffe up on the wall or let them look at a live giraffe walk around? and what arof? how brutal you can be to an innocent animal? how an innocent animal can be overcome by your brute force? the truth, these kids watching
are going to suffer trauma and flashbacks for the rest of their lives. if kids want to learn anatomy, they can go to medical school or become a butcher when they grow up. they didn't need to see a magnificent animal massacred. as for me, decades later we're still traumatized after watching bambi's mother shot in a cartoon. don't give me your circle of life bs! a little known fact from a woman who has been in law enforcement for 30 years. every serial murderer i know of started out by torturing and killing animals. let's hope the kids who witnessed the killing of an innocent giraffe in that copenhagen zoo stay in denmark. you should all be ashamed of yourselves. and on the phone, jack hanna. all right, jack, talk to me about this giraffe. >> well, i know one thing, i've
never said this before in my 30 years in tv, i want to have a copy of what you just said and show it to the international zoo association for 3,000 people come september. you're right on every single statement. i've done this for 40 years professionally. i spent maybe 12 hours in the last four days, i cannot get over what happened. it's beyond abominable. a perfectly healthy animal, our duty is to take an animal from birth to death and show that animal the best we can as far as where he lives in our park, educate people about what they will never see. you have to remember something, a lot of people, maybe 1/10 of 1% will see these. i want people to see what giraffes are like. we work very hard at educating
folks about animals in the wild. if you tell me what anybody, anybody in the world could love something like this, this is terrible. is this the hitler of the animal world in europe? you take an animal and kill it? that's garbage. i can house 15 giraffes. they should be able to do it over there. >> all right. jack hannah, thank you for being with us this evening. we very much appreciate your input. and now for tonight's insta poll results, we asked is killing a healthy giraffe in front of children and feeding them to the lions educational? jenny writes, whoever killed the
giraffe should have been fed to the politicians. that's it for us tonight. join us next week for a special on the grid. a full hour investigation. ♪ ♪ so you canet out of your element. so you can explore a new frontier and a dient discipline. get two times the points on travel and dining at restaurants from chase sapphire preferred. so you can be inspired by great food once again. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up.
yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. oh, it's great. yeah. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. ♪ new at&t mobile share value plans for business. our best value plans ever. for example, you can get 10 gigs of data to share. and 5 lines would be $175 a month. plus you can add a line anytime for $15 a month. sharing's never been better for business. ♪
good evening every, and good evening, everyone. welcome to "the kelly file" special on the presidential power grab. i'm megyn kelly. tonight, we investigate the growing concern over what critics are calling a lawless presidency with an executive branch ignoring the constitution and creating, editing or ignoring laws as the president sees fit. to be fair, mr. obama has not tried to hide what he is doing. >> we can't wait for an increasingly dysfunctional congress to do its job.