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death worldwide among women ages 14 to 44 is the violence they are subjected to in their own homes by their own relatives. >> but newly unearthed tapes throw that claim into question. clinton in the 1980's discussing a case she took on, the one she represented a man accused of raping a 12-year-old girl. here's hillary in her own words laughing about how she helped get this convicted child rapist a reduced sentence. >> do you remember that case where i represented that guy? it was a fascinating case. a really interesting case. the guy was accused of raping a 12-year-old. of course, he claimed he didn't. all this stuff. he took a lie detector test. i had him take a polygraph which he passed. >> how did it turn out?
>> oh, he plea gar ganed. got him off with time served in county jail. >> a 12-year-old victim is now 52. and she claims clinton went to great lengths to discredit her and, quote, took her through hell. dana, as a former prosecutor handling these cases, these are some of the most egregious and violent crimes that can be committed against women and childr children. hillary clinton took this on as private counsel and elected to represent a man and get a reduced sentence for someone who raped a child. how does this set well? >> i think most women that support her are inclined to do so ferociously and they will find some way to rationalize
this. they might say she was just being a good lawyer. i don't know what they'll be able to say. one of the reasons this is happening is that hillary clinton is trying to have it both ways for almost too long. is she a presidential candid or a private citizen in post public service life? she has a big book that's come out and all of her records are at the university ofarkansas. look at the media coverage. during the 2012 election the washington post ran a story about how mitt romney was a bully in high school. it led, i remember, msnbc. we even talked about it here. this has been known for some time but had been repressed by other news organizations. the washingt beacons finds the tape. she does the reports and puts it out there. what happens yesterday? university of arkansas bans the washington free beacon for
coming back because they forgot to fill out a certain form. >> i think i hope women are going to be smarter and intelligent and say listen, this is inconsistent with what she's been telling us. who should i believe? which is the real hillary clinton? the one back then taking cases on voluntarily choosing to represent a child rapist? that's a big choice. this is my problem with it. >> it gets worse. >> it's an egregious crime. >> this actually gets worse if this is true according to daily beast. daily beast you don't like. anyway, hillary clinton said she knew the guy was guilty and got him off with time served, ha-ha ha. why does that matter. you look at hillary clinton if she wants to run in 2016. do you want something sitting in the oval office getting somebody
off like thchlt that's not the kind of character i would want my president to have. >> it's a moral choices issue. it's an ethical issue and one of integrity and goes to the core of whether or not you are someone that believes passion e passionately in women's rights and the right of women to be free from violence and evil like this. i was a prosecutor. we made no money. i could have -- i made a choice, that wasn't something that sat well with me. i chose to be on the side to represent and protect victims of violent crime, the people most vulnerable, women and children. >> i don't have too much of a problem with her getting this guy off on a technicality. that's what lawyers are paid to do. what i have a problem is her lying about this victim and laughing about it. this is a 12-year-old girl raped brutally. she was put in a coma and a virgin.
she was told she could never have children again. and hillary clinton said this person is mentally unstable. a lie. she said this girl had made up rip rape claims before. that was a lie. hillary has a problem with unethical behavior. remember she was terminated for unethical behavior in water gate. she's spinning this tail about this video in benghazi. she's got a real problem with telling the truth. i think this is going to be very damaging. >> this should be a value issue. this is the type of person with the core values they share or not when making a decision about who you want to be the representative for the country. bob? >> she was 26 years old when she took on this case. i don't know of a defense lawyer that doesn't know the client is guilty.
most all of them do. you do whatever is necessary as a lawyer. you do what your best representation is. if you're dragging someone down to do it, you do it. the fact of the matter is she was 26 years old and to try to take a 26-year-old tape it's a good lead for us but it's a bunch of bull crap. >> why doesn't it matter? this is consistent with hillary's values at win at all costs. >> that's -- >> what difference does it make when americans died in benghazi because of administration's short comings. >> that's not why they died. that's also bull crap. >> take any one of these in and of themselves. they may not be reasons to disqualify her as the next president. but when you start adding them up and think about what happened -- i can't remember the year. hillary clinton was somehow trading commodities and made
several hundred thousand dollars. there's a whole history. what do they call it? the summation of your work. it's a body of work. what you end up with is someone who has literally no problem lying and maybe no character. that's not the president i want. >> that's a general statement. you picked out four things, not one of which has not been proved yet. >> she lied about benghazi. >> i'm not going to talk about benghazi. >> that's fine. i'll make this final comment. she stood in front of four draped caskets and blamed the video knowing very well that whole benghazi situation was not a protest. >> what did you say? >> okay. bob, let's focus on this -- the issue at hand. the whole platform that has been very strongly put -- the war on women. if she's going to be the choice, she is going to be the one
that's going to take the white house for women. right? i think people would be excited to see a female president? is she the right choice? she was not a child but she did traumatize a child to this day. the woman is upset about this way she was treated. she might not have been mentally unstable at the time. but being put on the stand and forced to read things about yourself that somehow you are to blame, you are deserving of a rape and deserving of crimes of violence is so offensive. it should matter. >> she has done more for women's rights and human rights. she went to china in the face of opposition for the entire government and spoke out about chinese women. she has a body of history of working for women. and no woman has been more scrutinized than she has. give this woman a break. she was 26 and a lawyer. >> the interview is from
somewhere between 1983 and 1987. so she wasn't 26 when she did the interview. and i also don't think she has been the most scrutinized. this has been out there but the media protects her. if you read, when it was going to put this forward and the editors buried it. it ends up hurting the democrats in the long run when the media tries to protect them. the difference between this and the mitt romney story that i mentioned on the front page of the washington post about him bullying, being a bully in high school is different from trying a case when you're 26 and talking about it ten years later. >> right. the time reference there is significant. >> and let's look at hillary's history with women. i know she's done a lot. think about what she's done as well. we have had her leading the
charge to smear monica lewinsky as this desperate reckless shut. do you remember that? remember whin '93 when she was e first lady running for president. she said i could stay at home and cook and drank tea in the kitchen but i decided to pursue a profession smearing -- >> is that your best case? >> these are examples of her declaring war on women when it's politically convenient. >> i'll grant you she was ambition and hurt and she didn't want to see him get hurt. >> she stood by her husband while he was sexually harassing people all over the country. i don't know if that's the paradigm of being a fem mist icon. >> the question of balancing her work with women against three important instances you're
talking about is crazy. >> these are there's are four instances. >> this is a summation of her body of work. >> of her body of work? >> of people victimizing women. >> if you're saying the other sides got a war against women, i'm the one. fight for women and children. then you bet you're going to get this kind of scrutiny and it is relevant and relevant she brings it up ten years later and her attitude about it. next the commissioner of the irs had to answer to lawmakers today about those e-mails related to the agency's targeting of conservative groups. you're going to see that straight ahead. ♪
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. how did the irs lose thousands of e-mails related to targeting of conservative groups. holding the agency's commissioner of capitol here. things got testy. >> this concludes my testimony. >> what i didn't hear in that was an apology to this committee. >> i don't think an apology is owed. every e-mail we have. >> even america's favorite boy scout showed he has a limit. >> i am sitting here listening to this testimony. i just -- i don't believe it. nobody believes you. hard drives crashed.
you learned about this months ago and we had to ask you monday. this is not being forthcoming. this is being misleading again. >> we're going to kick around the table. layers of deception and the committee is saying we have had enough. especially because it's not the hard drive where the e-mail would reside. it's on the server. why isn't it possible to get the e-mails on the server? >> remember the e-mail we lost and can't find them. guess what, we threw those out. they must be on the server. well we'll let you know about that. here's the problem. first of all, the bigger picture is they think we are that stupid. >> administration? >> administration thinks we're going to continue to buy this bs that we heard about it in the news or we can't find it. we're not -- so when things like this happen -- here's what the democrats did. they apologized. >> to the irs?
>> to the irs instead of asking him to apologize to the american people. the committee, the democrat apologized and one guy started talking about area 51 and obama's birth certificate to make a mockery out of it. this is a scandal they want to go away as quickly as possible and they do what bob does, change the subject and say i'm not talking about it. they think we're going to be okay with it but we're not. >> you thought this was the biggest problem for the white house of all the things they had going on? >> the one that concerns me now more though is the va. i don't think anybody believes this. first of all, i find it amazing that i don't believe they think a person is that stupid. to try to put a conspiracy like that together is impossible to do. the worst part is it's covering up the story which is these
right wings for breaking the law. they were, too. >> that is a nice tactic and i am learning from you but i'm going to skip you now. >> yay. >> the committee has been stone walled and told six months ago they had the e-mails and all these things. so as a prosecutor, the department of justice does have discretion to go forward to try to do something. they don't seem like they're going to do so. even if nobody likes a special prosecutor, do you think it's time to ask for one? >> i think it has to be strongly considered given the nature of the department of justice. we cannot expect them to do what the name over the door says. that's the problem. instead, we're going to have to look elsewhere again. just so you know, your taxpayer dollars that you put in, the department of justice, they're not doing much. they're on vacation or
something. or they have got shades on and out in the back garden. not paying attention. now you're going to have to rely on groups and nonprofits to represent and go forward and make requests. and consider getting a special prosecutor because they're not being transparent and have no interest in telling the truth. we know those e-mails are available and they have been lying from the beginning. i like paul ryan's comment. >> people just like you -- you said you went to work as a prosecutor because it was the right thing to do. there are thousands of lawyers in the justice department -- >> i was ethical and upheld the law. and took an oath i take seriously. fine. eric holder? >> bob, you just smerjed all the conservative groups. they should have been targeted any way. also, let me put out what we learned today about the timeline. in june 2011, okay, june 3rd.
congressman camp wrote a letter to lois learner that he knew what was going on, asking her questions about targeting, criteria, corresponding with the treasury department. 10 days later, it crashes. >> delete. >> three weeks later the whole thing is shredded. so the timing is absolutely insane. and then he was asked today, this new commissioner, why they don't keep records of new e-mails. he said they can't afford it. they have a budget of $12 million. they're doing star trek videos. >> following the letter of the law as an independent committee is bull crap. >> you don't have evidence of that. >> i certainly do. >> is that what you're alleging, guilty before proven innocent. >> they weren't prosecuted when they should have been. >> you don't think the irs went far enough? >> they should have been prosecuted. >> they made a finding there was
no wrong-doing. the victims are people targeted because of political ideology. that's a crime. >> let's look at the tax filing of any of these groups and ask yourself how close they came to breaking the law. >> do you think the 501-c-4's are breaking the law. >> i do, yeah. >> then we should start looking at them. >> they have a $12 billion budget but $1.8 billion is specifically for it management. $300 million of that was for server management. and they can't -- it's not just lois learner's e-mails lost. it's six additional people who happened to lose their e-mails at the specific time the committee is asking for. that's why i think it doesn't pass muster. before bob gives you a heart attack.
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welcome back to the fastest seven minutes in cable. three curious stories, one host. first up, today was jay carney's last day at the white house. no longer does he have to keep a straight face when saying things like we heard about it in the media or yes, the president thinks you can keep your doctor. check it out. >> they want to hear themselves
talk or they want to create moments, creating some drama and sometimes -- >> shut the [ bleep ] up. did you ever want to, hey, guys, i got a question for you, why don't you bite me? >> clockwise around the table. starting can dana. >> i know it's funny. i do think that the reporters there do their job and do it pretty well. >> tell us about that first day after you're no longer with us? >> it's a bit different. i stayed until the end of the administration so i wasn't leave knowledge the middle of it. so i don't know exactly. i know from talking with robert gibbs where it's this moment you feel on top of the world. you get to take your wife out to dinner, go for a walk and i'm sure jay is having a great afternoon.
>> jessie, he might be hitting the beats? >> the guy is such a hippocrate. he sayings the press likes to play with the camera. the administration goes on every talk show they can. steve harvey, ellen. the guy takes his tell prompter everywhere. >> you know the other media thing he did -- >> if only jay jay could have been this funny. >> he does look more relaxed. >> she's so super happy. >> i thought it was something i would say and i imagine he would say it every day. i don't blame it. this is some of the people asking questions. >> next up, this guy right here could be a model or not. c'mon put the picture up. he's not. the story is that the usa today
highlighted this man and ran his mug shot to sell newspapers. they were apowelled. they would never do such a thing unless it was a kardashian. take a look. >> i just visited my wife and she said i blew up all over facebook. i appreciate that but i just want them to know that this is really not me. like i'm not some king pin. >> you can lead it off. you're blushing. >> no. obviously, here's the thing, i wouldn't want to try the case to put him away because all the females would have to do it in a clever way and the guy is a criminal. he's on a $900,000 bond. all kidding aside. this is somebody who has done hard time. he's got the tear drop. >> bob, have you ever gotten out
of a speeding ticket or anything because of your good looks? >> as a matter of fact, i rolled up $300 bills. i did once. i won't say which state it was. >> you bribed? >> i bribed the cop. this guy is one of the ugliest punks i have seen. why they think this skin head ought to be good look. >> he's not. >> you say he's a good looking dude. look at him. he looks like a canine. >> usa today, a picture of a dog would sell newspapers, too. >> if bob is such a hippocrate, do you remember hot mug shot girl? >> yes. >> put her up. bob was in love. >> she looked a lot better than that before. >> the other one. >> she was hot, that one. >> that was another one, too. >> i think i would be nervous about this guy. i don't think you would want to be called hot in front of the
entire country when you're in prison. my favorite were the comments. he can kidnap me any day from one woman. or what is he guilty of, first degree sexiness. my favorite. let me know when you get out daddy. long list of naughty things i want to do with you. >> you added kimberly's contact. >> what? >> next up, terry brad shaw, winner of four championships with the pittsburgh steelers in the '70's. takes a shot at peyton manning's wrack of super bowl rings. >> nobody would argue with that if you like winning good during the season and losing super bowl, that's your guy. >> he's got a point. >> yeah. he's got a point. he was a great quarterback. but i think great quarterback's don't say things like that. manning is a great quarterback and had some bad luck. also, keep in mind terry won for
super bowls in a row. that is unbelievable. but the talent up against him were mediocre. >> what a dig. i think terry -- i want to defend terry bradshaw. i don't think he needs to apologize. look, the room left. >> he was kind of kidding around. talkg a little smack. we like terry. >> we like terry, too. he won for super bowls. i think the first two games he had 18 completions combined and the fourth game he had four picks. >> he's a winner. anybody could go to the super bowl but somebody has got to win it and he won. >> you're saying peyton -- >> i didn't say that. >> so he's not a clutch guy. >> i like to focus on the positives. like clutch guy. joe montana. >> when the clutch is on, you bring it. >> it's not like clutch the
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as long as i have been on this show, i have begged moderate muslims to stand up against the elements. when christians are slaughtered across the globe, we hear the same sound. that's right. it said districcricket's there. i didn't know what that meant. >> i don't hear a lot of criticism from so-called moderate muslims. >> i'm a muslim american. nobody is forcing me to wear the
head scarf. i could choose to wear whatever i want. >> will you speak out against those who use your religion and force women to cover and stay home and they can't drive, force women that they can't be seen in public without men related to. you're not going to speak up for those women's rights? >> well, i think every country has their own traditions, laws and culture and here in america, like, you know, i don't think -- >> do you think those customs are wrong in the name of religion that you're treating women that way? >> there are rights and wrong customs everywhere. >> i think that probably said everything you need to hear. she obviously agrees with the customs. or she's afraid to say something. these people either agree with the radical islami isists are d or are cowards. what do you think.
>> she's afraid to speak up. that's a problem with radical islam. it's not like they yell at you or they write something nasty about you. they kill you. >> yeah. >> not putting myself in that boat, however, it wouldn't be bad to see every once in a while a moderate muslim speak up again that take place. >> don't you think that somebody in the muslim community will have sense to say we have got to nominate some brave soul to say something once in a while to condemn these people? >> she benefits from living in america where -- if you close your eyes, she sounds just like any other person on the street. maybe not the content words but the tone is very american. she doesn't have to deal with the radicalization that other people have to deal with. the people you're talking about, you're not going to get the
e-moms to come on but what about the ambassadors? there's some good ambassadors from the middle eastern country that is could come on and have a rational discussion and they have an opportunity to play a bigger role. >> when we were going through this -- there's been so many heinous crimes. we have been trying to call the embassies. nobody would come out. >> yeah. >> don't you think somebody somewhere -- are there not activists women who would come out and say something? >> you're making a great point. there is strength in numbers. i think in particular women should be coming forward and speaking up on behalf of these acrossties and crimes committed against women. they were be internationally untolerated. she won't come out and condemn
radical islam. but how are you going to put a dent in it if you don't stand for something in your lifetime. >> do you think she was either cowardly or believed it? i think she believes it and she's a total fraud and nut case because we looked into her background. she was born and raised in pakistan. came over here to go to college. worked for two democrats. all of a sudden becoming the tea part infiltrator when she's an activist. we checked and she's been checked into a psychiatric ward and arrested for stocking. this woman is not okay. she might have been -- who knows who she's community dating with. >> when you talk about my sister like that, you have got yourself in some real -- >> it's like the woman who was going to speak at the university and she gets shut out by her
education system, too. it's a no-win for them. >> she's not to be taken seriously, that woman. >> the list of things she's done. did she push the video, too? >> you know what else, she's friends with the portland christmas tree bomber. >> that's right. >> she shredded the e-mails. destroyed the server. >> make sure you catch hannity. at 10:00 p.m. eastern. up next, a new study saying women are still doing more work around the house than their men. and eric and jessie, you're about to find out. we should get their wives in on this one. i think it's a good idea. why don't you put a call in.
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bob is about to have a field day with this one. he loves to give me a hard time whether i'm a good husband. there's a new study saying women are still pulling more weight around the house than men. bob is probably wondering if i'm one of those men. i love my wife dearly. >> you can't possibly do more than your wife at home. >> i do as much as i possibly can and it just never seems to be enough. >> don't say that. >> didn't i help you? i coached you on what you need to say and do. are you doing it? >> i realize now the more i do around the house, she loves me even more. >> right. >> that's true. i believe -- there's a big payoff. >> all you have to do is offer. >> it's all about offer. >> everybody i talked to, you
have a wonderfully smart, great wife. do you not recognize -- see, i wouldn't do anything. when my old lady asked me to do something, she pushed it too far. it is true. it's a direct proportion between how much you do and how much you get. >> see, i would not call my wife an old lady or get out of the way. >> or peush her out. >> i can't imagine why you're not married. >> the more you do the more you get. >> so you leave at 5:00 a.m. >> i'm up at 5:15. >> to avoid housework.
>> no. let me just tell you my wife is a neat freak. if you put a cup of coffee down, it's gone. she's a neat freak. she has a lot of energy. i don't have a lot of time to be the guy cleaning up around the house. but c'mon, i work. >> he also gets it. it's like happy wife, happy life. that's all you need to know. >> do you take the trash out. >> i do. >> five of your husbands were not happy with you. >> no. two of them were very happy. two total. that's that. >> let me ask you a question. my wife has instituted a new household rule. when i come into the house i have to now take my shoes off. >> what? >> this is a new rule. apparently i have been dragging a lot of mud into the house. >> you or everybody? >> just me. well, my kids, too. >> do you like walking around the house without shoes. >> do you think this is a fair deal to all of a sudden years
into the marriage a radical new house change? >> i don't know if i would have gotten married to someone that i had to take my shoes off at the door. >> when you have children crawling around on the ground -- >> no, i have a dog. >> if you do that, you're a woos. >> am i? am i whipped now? >> what you need is when you walk in and take off your muddy shoes and have house shoes and i think right. >> obviouslybob.
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it is time for one more thing, and one more thing from bob. >> thank you very much. you were excited saying that, weren't you? comedian tracy morgan was in a horrific car accident and now we are happy to ereport that he has moved tout rehabilitation, and we wish him well. >> well, that is succinct and well done. and now bob -- no, eric now. >> bob? >> well, you have been acting like bob all week. >> and now, the highly anticipated fool of the week, the third fool of the week. ready? paul krugman earned it by saying this, quoting him, mr. obama is having a seriously good year. in fact, there was a very good chance that 2014 will go down in the record books as one of those years when america took a major turn in the right direction. that is what he said. mr. princeton and mr. new york
times' columnist and mr. nobel prize winner mr. krugman, you are fool of the week. >> dana, top that doozy. >> well, this is what i love. i love the speech and the e debate team, and this week in overland, kansas, they had the national tournament and 4,000 students from all 50 states competed in all sorts of categories and competing for $200,000 of scholarships and they did something fun which is this texting in order to break a world record of how many people could text at the same time to raise awareness about speech is and debate and they broke that record. so congratulations to all of them. parents, if you are looking for an activity for your children to do next year, think of the speech and the debate team, because it is a great thing and it is not expensive and you don't have to buy the equipment. >> i was on the debate team. >> i believe it. >> i can't tell. >> fantastic. >> jesse? >> well, the people who ride motorcycles are insane and here is why. take a look at the video. >> oh. >> whoa!
>> wow. >> flipped. >> and he walked away. >> he gets up and walks away, this guy michael smith down in clearwater, florida, sees that he is about to have a head-on collision with the car and slams on the brakes of the motorcycle to create a flip, flip, and he is up. beautiful recovery. >> that is a good one. >> he meant to do that. >> no, i don't think that florida has a helmet law either. >> no, but it is time to get one. >> and let's talk about something extremely important and i ask you all to focus and pay attention here. there is a new study out, and guess what excites some women more than their significant other? >> chocolate. >> well, like that, but feast your eyes on these, people. it is shoes. you see that! i put the spurs into bob today and you see, but he seems to like it. >> those things look like weapons. >> they are am a maizing. and 1 in 5 women say they are more excited by these bad boys.
>> maybe, jesse, that is why your wife wants you to take the shoes off at the door. >> yes, your heels. >> and greg is going to be back monday and the special report is back next and have a great weekend, everybody. thanks for staying with us. sorry does indeed seem to be the hardest word for the head of the irs who is refusing to apologize for the loss of all of those lois lerner e -mails. this is "special report." good evening, i'm chris wallace in for bret baier. the internal revenue service is not an sergeagency that most pe love, but tonight it is under more venom than usual. today, the top tax man was unapologetic in missing e-mails targeting the e-mails of conservative groups.
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