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death. he was also suffering from lewy body dementia in addition to early stage parkinson's. the second most common form of dementia after algz himer's with 1.3 million americans suffering from it. i hope we bring awareness. that's it for us. "special report" is up next. this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. tonight fox news has obtained brand new documents from a government agency containing detailed proposals for presidential action that could lead to legalization for millions of undocumented immigrants. executive action that sources say could come as soon as next week. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live on capitol hill with breaking details on what promises to turn into an 'em pick showdown on immigration reform. >> bret, no question about that. sources say president obama was briefed on this proposal before leaving on his trip to asia and is expected to announce his
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executive action on immigration as soon as next week. in this draft proposal from a government agency, up to 4.5 million illegal immigrants living with american-born children would be allowed to stay in the u.s., an expansion of defefrd action, also expanding children for daca who came to this country with their parents following president obama's action of june 2012. also included is a pay raise for i.c.e. officers in order to increase morale. it also allows family members who enroll in the delayed entry program another avenue for citizenship. a source tells fox that category is likely to be exploited because people will join to get american citizenship and not show up for boot camp. on congress's first day back from the lame duck session, lawmakers sent two very different messages to the president. >> i think president obama has the duty to help build the trust
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we all need to move forward together, not the double down on old ways of doing business. that's why i think moving forward with the unilateral action on immigration he's planned would be a big mistake. >> i join with my colleagues in urging the president to take action. what the president needs to do is give immediate and significant relief to those families that are being wrenched apart and living in fear. >> several other elements on this ten-point plan are, there are plans to promote the new naturalization process by giving a 50% discount on the first 10,000 applicants who come forward. tech jobs through a state department immigrant visa program would offer another half million immigrants a path to citizenship and increase border security. democrats are urging the president to go big and bold. republicans up here on capitol hill are warning this kind of executive action could blow up
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this lame duck session. bret? >> very detailed. mike emanuel live on the hill. more on this with the panel. tonight republican opponents of obamacare have another opportunity to say "i told you so." a third video has now surfaced of one of the plan's architects insulting the americans who supported his work, comments he called a mistake and off the cuff this week. all this comes as a new republican majority in the next year's congress prepares its efforts to repeal the controversial law. correspondent doug mcelway has the story of yet another video causing obamacare supporters heart brurn. >> the incendiary remarks by professor jonathan gruber have gone viral with hundreds of thousands of views. he claims obamacare was intentionally written in a tortured way to hide the taxes that would have killed the bill. >> lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever, but
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basically that was really critical to getting to it pass. >> gruber tried to walk back the remarks yesterday on msnbc. >> the comment in the video were made at an academic conference. i was speaking off the cuff and basically spoke inappropriately. i regret having made those comments. >> reporter: gruber has repeatedly argued attacks on insurance policies would be political suicide. >> you can't get through. it's politically impossible. >> it's hard to make political case for this. >> reporter: in other clips, gruber said it was then senator john kerry who proposed the idea of hiding taxes on insurance plans. >> senator john kerry had a clever idea, he said let's call it instead attacks on insurance companies and not attacks on insurance plans. >> a clever basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the american voter. >> the american voter is too stupid to understand -- >> reporter: many say shear repetition mean he was not speaking off the up the. >> nancy pelosi said first you have to pass it before you get
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to find out what's in it. we knew it was written in a way that was deliberately written to deceive the american people and now people are paying the price. >> it was put together by a bunch of elitists who don't understand the american people. >> reporter: a recent poll supports dean's point. they found 55% of americans believe the administration misrepresented the law to get it passed. in a 2012 pbs interview, gruber said president obama's support for the tortured wording was worthy of a profile in courage. >> they were all about times politicians didn't listen to the public and did what was right. this was a profile in courage. >> reporter: the supreme court will hear a challenge to obamacare next year that could invalidate federally operated exchanges in 30 states. as fox news reported in july, gruber may have unintentionally made a case for the plaintiffs. >> what's important to remember politically about this, if you're a state and you don't set up an exchange, that means your citizens don't get their tax credits. but your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill.
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>> even if the plaintiffs lose that suit in the supreme court, the new republican majority indicated its intention to chip away at the law and the next congress and starve it of the funding that it is its lifeblood. >> doug, thank you. what do you think? do you think republicans will send an obamacare repeal to the president's desk. let me know on facebook or twitter. you can use #specialreport. we may use some of your comments later in the show. the republican takeover of the senate appears a little more decisive tonight. alaska republican dan sullivan is celebrated as the associated press reports absentee ballots insured a victory over democrat mark begich. so far begich has not conceded. the sullivan win puts the gain at eight seats. there is still one more race to go. louisiana will hold a runoff next month on december 6. tomorrow the two candidates
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involved are expected to offer competing bills calling for a vote on the much delayed keystone xl pipeline project. marry len net will work to keep her seat. republican bill cassidy has offered a measure to be voted on in the house. president obama is in burma tonight where in a few hours he will try to address yet another element of his foreign policy that has failed to live up to expectations. before he left china, the president struck a deal over climate change. chief white house correspondent ed henry who is traveling with the president looks at what all sides are saying about the deal. good, bad or essentially no deal at all. >> reporter: eager for a victory on the world stage barely one week after the midterm election drumming back home, president obama plunged into another executive action. >> this is a major milestone in the u.s.-china relationship. >> reporter: this time cutting a deal with chinese president xi jinping on climate change that, like many aspects of the state
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visit to beijing, may or may not end up being quite as good as it first appears. >> i was particularly distressed by the deal apparently he's reached with the chinese on his current trip. >> reporter: the president did get china, the world's largest polluter to agree for the first time to caps on carbon emissions, though the deadline is basically in 2030, and it's an open question whether the chinese will actually follow up. meanwhile, the president promised the u.s. will emit 20 to 26% less carbon than in 2005. though that goal which has to be met nearly a decade after the president leaves office will hit a dose of reality from the incoming republican congress. the presumptive senate majority leader mitch mcconnell clearly declared this deal will expand what he calls the president's war on coal, the vastly different assessment of the climate deal is symbolic of the broader contradictions during this visit. the u.s. and chisting of dramatic new economic and
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military cooperation, even as the chinese continue launching cyber attacks to steal trade secrets and just so happen to show off their new stealth fighters in a dramatic display of military muscle. then there was a joint news conference where xi lashed out at the protesters in hong kong as an illegal movement and tried to claim enormous progress on human rights inside china. in fact, the communist host tried to control every last second of this visit. yet that changed at the news conference when mr. obama called on mark land her of "the new york times." xi never takes questions from western reporters. after being pressed on whether he'll grant visas to journalist at that time times and elsewhere, there was a stir when an aide initially said the president will not respond. >> president xi will take a question from a member of the chinese press. >> he went on to say they have a right to express themselves and ensure journalist whose are
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kicked out of the country have themselves to blame. >> translator: media outlets need to obey china's laws and regulations. >> reporter: here in burma the president wants to highlight efforts to help move this government from a military dictatorship to early stages of democracy. his critics say the president lost leverage by moving too quickly to reward reforms. >> ed henry traveling with the president in burma, thank you. up next, jennifer griffin at the pentagon with why russia is talking about flying its bombers closer to the u.s. first here is some of our fox affiliates across the country. fox 4 in dallas with a settlement between the family of a lie baron man who died of ebola and the president whihosp turned him away. we'll have an update on u.s. military efforts to fight ebola. fox 5, two window washers rescued from a broken scaffold 69 floors up. crews ended up closing through
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the office building's glass walls. the workers are okay but treated for hypothermia. the scaffolding is secure on the building's roof. this is a live look at los angeles from fox 11, the big story there tonight a geyser in griffith park created by a fire hydrant mishap. construction crews somehow sheared off part of that hydrant. the incident created traffic headaches adding to the already robust l.a. congestion. that is tonight's look outside the beltway from "special report." we'll be right back. get healthier gums in two weeks. innovation and you philips sonicare save when you give philips sonicare this holiday season. if you're suffering from constipation or irregularity, powders may take days to work. for gentle overnight relief, try dulcolax laxative tablets. ducolax provides gentle overnight relief, unlike miralax that can take up to 3 days. dulcolax, for relief you can count on.
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national security xnd jennifer griffin has it all from the pentagon tonight. >> reporter: the pentagon has already deployed nearly 2200 u.s. troops to liberia to combat ebola. major general gary velez ski, the top u.s. general in liberia say it is pentagon revised the number of troops the military thinks it will need from 4,000 to 3,000. >> there's a lot of capacity here that we didn't know about before. and so that enabled us to reduce the forces that we thought we had to bring. >> reporter: over the weekend u.s. troops completed work on a 100-bed treatment center in northwestern liberia and opened a critical 25-bed hospital in monrovia designed to treat health workers who may contract the virus. some of the treatment centers were partially built in the united states before being sent to west africa. in all, the u.s. military plans to build 17 treatment centers in the region. on capitol hill today the administration made the case for
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its $6.2 billion request to fund the ebola mission, more than the administration is requesting to train the iraqi military. democrats are pushing to get it approved. >> so we have done this before when we have been faced with an emergency related to infectious disease. i would hope that we would follow the models that we have used in the past. >> reporter: republicans are concerned about where the money would come from. >> given the size of the request, the slow progress in detailing plans for how the money will be spent and some of the missteps made so far, i think it deserves our careful oversight and scrutiny. >> liberia says it hasn't seen a drop in new cases from a daily peak of more than 500 many september to around 50 a day right now. health officials say cases are skyrocketing next door in western sierra leone, bret. >> it now seems the russians are testing the u.s. again with these bombers. what can you tell us about that?
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>> russia's defense minister announced russian strategic bear bombers would deploy to the caribbean. the threat was down played saying the russians have patrolled in the gulf of mexico in the past and we've seen the russian navy operate in the gulf of mexico. these are international waters, they said. one obstacle for rusch yeah is refueling, that's why they're in talks with cuba and venezuela. there have been 40 incidents involving the russian military since the invasion of cry crimea. some tense moments today for three u.s. navy sailors visiting istanbul, turkey. they were from "u.s.s. ross," harassed by about 20 turkish youths. one had a bag placed over his head. there was name calling, some jostling, but the americans escaped without any serious injuries. isis is being blamed for a series of attacks in and around bagdad. 17 people were killed including
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11 soldiers and policemen. about 40 others were injured in three separate strikes which included two suicide bombings. ten years ago this week, the u.s. was embroiled in a bloody battle for fall luge gentleman. it was the seminal conflict of the second iraq war. tonight some of those on the ground then remember the fight. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg pal kof looks back. >> reporter: the invasion of fall luge gentleman the deadliest battle of the iraq war waged ten years ago this week. the goal achieved and honored at a recent ceremony. the colonel in charge of the lead marine battalion. >> when you look back over it, it was a tremendous victory. the marines set a standard for urban warfare. >> reporter: ten years later islamist militants are back in charge of fall luge yeah and
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elsewhere. >> reporter: now spread out across america. but via skype we heard focused comments. >> it's probably one of the most frustrating experiences to sit and watch on the news the unraveling of iraq after so much blood and treasure was spent to get it back together. >> reporter: shane bergwald reenlisted to get back in the action. he's gung-ho, too. >> this is not a beer summit. it's the business end of a rifle with a well-trained american behind it. >> reporter: clay south was badly injured. he, himself, wants to go back in. >> people want to go back, but they want to make sure the job will get done this time and we won't have to go back. >> reporter: what did their company commander from ten years ago say? >> let bit for a little bit. just let it be. >> reporter: this captain once single handedly killed more than 20 insurgents. >> make the decision not to do anything.
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it's not called being indecisive. let's just let this one sit for a couple minutes. >> reporter: dave say it is current anti-isis strategy is okay and notes what troops really think. >> we did our job, did what we were told to do. we weren't necessarily fighting for anyone else besides ourselves and the guy next to us to the right and the left. >> reporter: he went on to say not once has he felt the invasion of fall luge yeah was a waste. that was pretty much echoed by everyone. some did note they'd feel a lot better with the terrorists were gone. bret? >> greg, thank you. an incredible achievement in space and it was not by the u.s. first, big labor gets a second chance at a big opportunity.
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the dow and the s&p ending their winning streaks. the dow lost three. the s&p 500 fell 1.5. the nasdaq gained 15. it appears the american auto workers may rebound from what was supposed to be a resounding defeat earlier in tennessee. correspondent jonathan seerry tells us about the second chance to get a piece of german engineering. >> reporter: volkswagen's new policy opens the door to labor organizations at its non-union chattanooga plant, although the guidelines don't allow collective bargaining, they do give unions a voice at the table. >> volkswagen knows how it wants to do business. >> reporter: professor thomas smith of emory university's business school says the new policy potentially helps the united auto workers whose attempt to unionize the plant
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was defeat bad vote of 712 to 626. >> i don't know if it brings them that much closer to unionizing that plant. i think it gives them a position in the south that they currently don't have. >> vw will allow labor groups representing more than 15% of its chattanooga employees to hold meetings on company property, post announcements at the plant and meet with varying tiers of management according to size. a local none union group representing both blue and white collar workers say it too expects a seat at the table under vw's new policy. >> i definitely think it's a move to get more conversation, to get more dialogue back and forth. i do not see this at all as a move to ultimately recognize uaw as the sole voice of the employees. >> reporter: this afternoon the uaw release add statement saying we have questions about the policy that we'll work through in discussions with management. this is a step forward in
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building stronger relationships between management and employees. while not responding directly, a vw official says we are putting this policy in place so a constructive dialogue a possible and available for everyone. with no provision for collective bargaining, it doesn't ring alarm bells but they offer organized labor a new role modeled more from the works councils of germany than the union shops of detroit. senior adviser to the president valerie jarrett says she's not bothered by recent criticism blaming her to disruption in the white house. we told you about those reports yesterday. tonight her response. >> when you break glass ceilings, you're going to get scraped by a shard or two of the glass. what i really focus on is the hard work very have in these last two years. >> some columnist and pundits
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criticized the media reports about jarrett as sexist. school administrators canceling christmas, sort of, and hollywood donors say singer clay aiken's failedcongressiona much showbiz. "grapevine" is next. better t, stiffness, and joint damage of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. before you and your rheumatologist decide on a biologic, ask if xeljanz is right for you. xeljanz (tofacitinib) is a small pill, not an injection or infusion, for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz can relieve ra symptoms, and help stop further joint damage. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers have happened in patients taking xeljanz. don't start xeljanz if you have any infection, unless ok with your doctor. tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. your doctor should perform blood tests
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washington, d.c. was asked by local muslim leaders to include the holy day of'd el adha on the calendar. the board went in a drastically different direction, removing all religious holidays on the calendar. just not for christmas, yom kippur other others. one muslim leader saying, quote, by stripping the names christmas, easter, rosh hashana and yom kippur, they have alienated other community ansd we are no closer to equality. they did it without any public notification. vice president biden struggles with number when he said 161,people died when it was 161. he was at it again on veterans day. >> i asked my staff early in the morning to contact the
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department of defense to get a detailed report on the number of troops deployed, the number wounded, and the number killed. not a general number, the exact number. u.s. troops died in iraq and afghanistan, 6,703. troops wounded in 5,168. he focused on that speech and how much focus he gives those exact numbers. unfortunately i think that last number was off by 47,000. it should have been 52,168. finally one campaign loser had a strong backup plan and donors are not happy about it. singer clay aiken lost by 18 points in his bid to become a north carolina congressman, but the democrat bounced back quickly with the announcement of a tv reality show focusing on
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his campaign. that left some hollywood heavy hitters wondering what they had actually contributed to. from actor/producer steve tyler who organized an aiken fund-raiser, apparently you had yourself covered with a reality tv show deal the whole time just in case you didn't win. we feel duped, taken advantage of and lied to. aiken said neither he or anyone in his campaign had any stake in the documentary. history made in space today. an unmanned probe landed on a comment traveling 34,000 miles an hour. it was not america, not nasa pressing the button this is time. correspondent phil keating has the story. >> reporter: the european space agency erupted with excitement as the lander touched down on a comet 300 million miles away.
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some described the moment as monumental as landing on the moon. >> and philae is talking to us. we are on the comet. >> reporter: this historic accomplishment was not without unexpected drama. philae lander sent back this image at the rosetta mother ship followed by rosetta's picture of philae with landing gear deployed. then the thruster to keep it from ricocheting off into space failed to work. upon landing, philae's harpoons intended to hook the lander and comet together failed to deploy. migs managers says the lander appears to have bounced once before touching down a second time and finally screwing itself into the icy rock. comets are believed to be the building blocks of the universe and posly the source of our water on planet earth. across europe today, great pride. >> it looks very easy but it isn't easy.
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it's in my point of view a miracle. >> nasa sent europe its congratulations on the day the orion spacecraft rolled out. its first major mission, putting our astronauts onto a comet sometime in the 2020s. bret? >> phil, thank you. we now know some of what the president may do on immigration, new don'ts obtained by foxx news. we'll talk about them with the panel when we come back. ♪
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i'm going to don't what i can do through executive action. it's not going to be everything that needs to get done. and it will take time to put that in place. and in the interim, the minute they pass a bill that addresses the problems with immigration reform, i will sign it. >> i think president obama has the duty to help build the trust we all need to move forward
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together, not to double down on old ways of doing business. that's why i think moving forward with the unilateral action on immigration he's planned would be a big mistake. >> sources tell fox news that that executive action could come as soon as next week. we have obtained documents from a government agency with very detailed proposals for that executive order. they include in this draft proposal up to 4.5 illegal immigrants living with american born children would be allowed to stay in the u.s., expansion of deferred action. also expand deferred action for children known as daca who came with their parents. a ten-point plan for a pay raise for i.c.e. officers to increase morale. it talks about 500,000 technology job offered through the visa program and increase border security generally is a bullet point in these draft
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documents. very detailed documents, though. let's bring in our panel, jason riley, editorial board member of the washington street journal. juan williams with the hill and indicated columnist -- >> the president has threatened he'll move forward. the administration has talked about it. congress has said don't do it. it seems like it is moving. >> it's hard to see how the results last week were some sort of mandate for the president to act unilaterally on immigration. who can interpret it, last week's results that way? if anything, it was the opposite. the public was sending a republican senate. they want the two to o work together. it looks like he'll ram this through. lit set the tone for the next two years, and it will be a bad tone where i think it will hamper his ability to get things done on other issues he wants such as trade and so forth and maybe even some corporate tax reform. i think it hurts all those
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efforts. what you'll see immediately, republicans passing legislation to block this effort. i'm sure senator sessions and senator grassley will be moving legislation to try to stop it. i don't think this is the way to go or the tone to set for the new congress. >> juan, what about that? the tone. in this lame duck the white house administration would like to see a lot of things happen including nominations of ambassadors and things taken care of. if this goes forward as soon as next week, it will be like a nuclear bomb on capitol hill. >> i don't know if that's fair to say. i think it will, as jason said, create a rank rouse tone and i think the base of the republican party which has long opposed immigration reform going back to president bush's efforts in '06 will raise their voices and there will be a lot of squealing about it. the fact is the president has waited since the immigration reform package passed the senate back in '13 for the house to
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take some action. remember the house said they would do it piecemeal, would do it gratd gradually. >> isn't this goading them to taking them on in the budgetary way, in the efforts gore green cards and other things? >> no. i think they can try to do that, but they do it at a great political risk in terms of the future of the republican party and hispanic vote. the second thing to say is, remember, it's not as if we've had smooth sailing between the parties here in washington from the white house perspective, the republican party has sought to obstruct and stop them at every turn, and from the perspective of the hispanic, the latino community in this country, the president has been the deporter-in-chief. >> charles 1234. >> the reason obama has waited is because, according to his own words which he has said repeatedly for six years, he is not allowed under the constitution to do what he's now proposing to do. he has said this over and over
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again. he's said i'd like to do all these things, but under the constitution, i do not write the laws. if any of this is true, this is a wholesale canceling of a law passed by congress. if it is to be canceled, if it is to be reformed, it has to be done. this is a constitutionally owed yous proposal. he knows it and he admitted it himself. as a matter of policy, i think it's a terrible idea. i'm not against legalization, but i am against legalization before you've done anything serious about controlling the border. otherwise this is an advertisement to the whole world, particularly latin america where it's easy to get across the border, that you come into america illegally. it's up to you, we do not control our borders. if you wait long enough and you make strong enough case and there's enough pressure, we will legalize you. >> i don't know what law you're canceling. >> the immigration laws. >> this is something used by presidents -- i think 11 times
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in the last six years, presidents have executive authority to limit and make choices about who gets deported. >> at this scope, juan? this is a different scope. >> this is really stretching it to the point where it's basically overturning the law. the problem on policy grounds is that it's bad policy. this is 1986 all over again. you simply legalize the population already here. but you don't fix the legal system. so 20 years from now because there are no expanded ways for people to come here legally, we're going to end up with a bunch of illegal immigrants. >> the president says, okay, i'm going to do this because they're not acting on capitol hill. once you act, it will erase the executive order. >> that's a threat. that's a threat that he said. he said if the house takes up the senate bill that passed last year this year, if they take it up and pass it, then i won't do that. that's a threat. what he does know is that the republican leadership in both the house and the senate has every incentive to cooperate on this going into the 2016
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elections. he knows republicans want to get this behind him. he knows he wants to do something more permanent and durable, not simply temporary measures that kick the ball down the road. >> bret baier just said, you don't even have to act the senate package. if you pass something, get something going, that would do exactly what you're doing. >> that' what the president said. i referenced the president. >> i didn't mean to hurt your reputation with the right wing. >> he wants this issue politically to slam republicans. >> wait a minute. >> that's the only reason. >> didn't he wait? hasn't he waited? >> he's waited because it's illegal. if there were a republican who is in the white house and says i waited and waited, i demanded abolition of the capital gains tax and the congress wouldn't do it, so i'm ordering the irs no collection of capital gains, if congress wants to pass a law to override that, i invite that.
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you would be up here as everybody would and say this is unconstitutional, it is an impeachable offense. that's what he's doing. he himself has admitted that year after year up till now, two years left, all the elections behind him. he doesn't care. >> let me bring this up. gallup poll just came up with the republicans leading. gallup, 42% republican, 36% democrat. if this moves forward, does this prevent anything from getting done in the short term? >> i think it does. i think it poisons the well. that's the term that's been used. there's a trust factor here. i don't see the republicans having any incentive to work with the president on anything else if he's going to do an end run around on this big issue. >> all the talk about finding common ground, that goes out the window, doesn't it?
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>> no. i think republicans still have interest. they want to get a lot of stuff off the table before we get to january and they take control of the senate. >> republicans shouldn't al louf it to control their agenda. they should say they will abolish if they take the whougs 2017. the congress should defund it. but not allow it to run away with their agenda and no impeachment. next up, an obamacare architect calling you and your fellow americans stupid, at least twice.
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thing. it's a very clever, basically exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the american voter. okay. and basically the cadillac tax is put in and basically that's going to help control healthcare cost and end subsidy to the most expensive health insurance plans and over time apply to more and more health insurance plans. >> that was third piece of tape. third clip from mit economic's professor jonathan gruber talking about obamacare. he said this week that he was sorry for those remarks the first ones on tape. he said they were off the cuff he regretted making those comments so there is a a pattern here. >> cadillac tax. cost $23,000 a year will have a tax on it. now, you and i know the economists know passed on the price of insurance. offset the tax break you get. have the same effect and economists will like it. >> lack of transparency a
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huge political advantage. basically call the stupidity of the american voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass. >> well, you have chillicothe weighing -- capitol hill weighing in and dean weighing in. >> i appreciate his honesty. the president's signature piece of legislation is based on deceit and lies. and i thank him for his honesty. a lot of us on the political right now a this all along. but it's nice to hear it coming from gruber and company. >> fox poll about obamacare, first about whether it's good for the country, bad for the country. split 52% bad for the country. good for the country 40%. and did the obama administration misrepresent effects of healthcare law to get it passed. 55% of registered voters said yes.
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this seems like a bit of an herb ahead of a round of obamacare. >> a big issue here is it creates anxiety, uncertainty about the law. i think puts a bad varnish on it as jason said it's a gift to the critic tigs of obama care. it's all sausage making. this is very unpleasant. the fact is everything gets marketed from soap to, you know, ball games. we all market there is a lot of spin in washington when it comes to legislation. people can look back at how much, you know, is it the case that the iraqi oil reserves are going to pay for the cost of war or look back to the prescription drug -- i think it is spin. i will say this, i can't believe that he has talked about the stupidity of the american voter. i think that's inexclusive that's rude. >> that's what's very representative of the left's mind set. their moral superiority. not only morally superior and more intelligent.
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they need to explain things to us yocals out there in flyover country. we can't think for ourselves and choose our healthcare for ourselves and can't choose our doctors for ourselves. we need elites telling us how to too these things. >> that's a different point to be made. i think it's a different point to be made which is some people actually think it's lowered the number of people that don't have -- who lack insurance in this country which is. >> overall? >> we should point out that we first reported on professor grew enter in the context of the howbig case loss in federal court. now heading to the u.s. supreme court in which, charles, he said it's important to remember if you are a a state and don't set up an exchange that means your citizens don't get tax credits and that's how this was set up. but your citizens still pay taxes to support the bill. well, that's how this whole lawsuit has hinged is that it was set up that way. >> that is exactly the case of the plaintiffs. if it is upheld, it will mean the collapse of obamacare. gruber has now admitted that
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the critics reading of the law, the plain meaning of the law and the intent of the law is the same. you only get a subsidy if you are on a state exchange not on the federal exchange extremely damaging. juan, this isn't a gift to the critics. this is a vinny del vindicatione critics. this isn't spin. this is open and admitted deception these were lies that were told and he explains every one of the lies that were told. the central lie was. this it was obama saying to the country we are doing this to help the needy, that's a nice sweet thing, but anybody who is not in need will be be left unmolested. you will not have to pay more. you are not going to have a plan cancelled. what gruber is telling us, they knew in advance it was a huge transfer of wealth from those already who have health insurance to those who didn't. and this was concealed because as he said if it was known, the law never would
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we'll be back next week. greta goes "on the record" right now. okay, this is getting worse. just how many videos are out there with the obama administration's obamacare architect calls you stupid? last night we had one video and passed that off as a mere off-the-cuff response. oops? in the last 24 hours we got two more videos for a total now of three where he says the american people are stupid. that's not off the cuff can. that's a deep seeded view. and he is the one who designed obamacare. take a look at what gruber said in the latest video just two years ago at the university of rhode island you are not going to like it. >> john kerry says no no we are going to tax your health insurance. we are going to tax to evil insurance companies. too expensive. we are going to tax them and conveniently the tax rate will be the marginal tax rate under the income tax code.
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