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but what do you think? we want to hear from you. head over to facebook. twitter@sean hannity. tell what's your answer would be. that's all the time we have left. thanks for being with us. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. greta van susteren is in texas and tonight she will take you "on the record" with former president george w. bush from the home where he grew up. but, first tonight, president obama dismissing obamacare architect jonathan gruber as, quote: some advisor. but that was yesterday. way back in 2006, then senator obama certainly seemed to know and actually admire jonathan gruber, even saying that he stole some of his ideas from him. listen to what the president brookings institution. >> you have already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles. many of them i have stolen ideas from liberally. people ranging from robert gordon to austan goolsbee, john gruber, my dear friend
jim wallace here who can talk, i think -- who can inform what are sometimes dry policy debates with a prophetic voice. >> hello, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. president obama admitting that he sometimes stole ideas from jonathan imriewber, the economist who has repeatedly claimed that it was a lack of traps (is i combined with the stupidity of the american voter that helped the obama administration to get this bill of obamacare through the house and the senate. and republican representative kristi noem joins us now. congresswoman good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you, martha. good to be with you. >> poor jonathan gruber. a lot of people who knew him now pretending that they didn't know him. >> that's what is so offensive about this situation is that the white house, nancy pelosi and the president talking about his objective analysis. held it up as an example what they should craft their signature legislation after. now when they see what a
disaster it is and what comments truly in the arrogance of him trying to hide him and distance himself. american people are smarter than that and we are going to keep talking about the fact that this is the element in the environment in which obamacare was drafted. that's why it's so flawed. >> do you think that americans deserve more of a response from the white house given the fact that we have seen all of these comments from various members of the white house and top democratic officials who said, you know, yes, that they admired his work. why not just be honest with the american people? >> absolutely. americans deserve the truth. an apology would be in order. althoughs that's not going to make anything right. that's not going to help anybody struggling to pay healthcare premiums or those who don't have healthcare or lost it because of obamacare. it certainly won't fix anything. at least we have a president who will at least be honest and truthful rather than continuing to cover up the mistakes that he has made. >> so a lot of people look at the g.o.p. at this point and say what would you do? i mean, now you have got a lot of power on capitol hill. but we have heard time and
time again that the bill really can't be repealed. it can't be clawed back at this point. what can we do. >> we have seen appear example of what republicans are willing to do. while we would love to see obamacare repealed we have been working to make it better for as many people as possible. seven different bills have gotten through the house and the president that the president has signed into law recognizing that they were so big and so disastrous that they needed to be fixed in order for american people to be willing to try to survive with this healthcare bill as it is today. but, also, we have provisions and laws that we have proposed that really would reform our healthcare system. make sure more people get coverage that hadn't have it before and make sure more competitive environment for costs to go down. those bills have been filed for months. people can look at them and read them and have experts give testimony on them and feedback and put together a bill that's actually going to work rather than one like this healthcare bill was put together in secret, behind closed doors, lies in
committee hearings. you know, republicans just won't do that to the american people. we are doing in a very different manner. frankly the republican party deserves credit for that. >> this is very uncomfortable situation to say the least that's going on here. i think a lot of people are reacting very negatively to this man's words unfortunately. thank you very much kristi noem, congresswoman good to see you tonight. >> thank you. good to see you. >> in many ways it is worse than we ever imagined. turns out jonathan gruber was paid almost $6 million in tax-pair payer funded fees. while calling the american people stupid at the same time. >> lack of transparency a huge political advantage. basically call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting this thing to pass. >> yep. >> it was critical. that's how he got it passed. "the washington post" political reporter aaron blake joins me now. aaron, where did all this money come from for jonathan
gruber? >> basically about $2 million of this money came from project relating to obamacare. about $400,000 from consulting for the white house. and then about $400,000 for four states that we know of that were implementing their exchanges that were under obamacare in the years that followed. he also consulted with four other states. we don't know how much money he made from those states. at the going rate of another $400,000 per state, it's safe to assume he might have made each more than a million dollars more from those states. going back a little bit further, he consulted for the department of justice. especially in some tobacco cases in the early 2,000s. he has also had a contract with the department of hhs over the last few years, focusing mostly on medicare part d and how elderly people are actually using that new prescription drug benefit. >> all right. so, the president sort of used some clever phrasing, i think on this. he said he wasn't part of our staff. so he wasn't part of the white house staff.
but is it, according to your reporting, a stretch to say that he was not a huge part of working on this plan? he certainly made a lot of money working on it. >> yeah. look. everybody is trying to get distanced from jonathan gruber right now. nobody wants to be his friend. you are seeing both the left and the right really distance themselves from this guy. the right didn't like him for a while there and now the left doesn't like him because they don't want to be associated with him. seeing all kind of verbal games being played here. nancy pelosi says i don't even know who he is. she has talked about him. she knows who he is. everybody who watched this debate knows who jonathan griewber is and the role he has played in this. whether you want to say a consultant to the white house who was in on some oval office meetings, wasn't technically on staff, whether he technically wrote the bill, which is another line in the sand that nancy pelosi has drawn, i think it's pretty clear that jonathan griewber is a pretty significant voice in the healthcare system that we have crafted in this country right now. but i think the line that
the white house is drawing right now is that he wasn't specifically involved in this strategy part of things. he wasn't specifically involved in, you know, feasting on the so-called stupidity of the american people. >> all right. thank you very much, arab. good to talk to you tonight. and over the week president obama insisted he did not mislead the public about obama care that's decide what jonathan gruber said over and over and over. >> no economist would ever set up a health system with a tax provided -- terrible policy. only way to take it on is first by mislabeling it. calling it a tax on insurance plan rather than tax on people. we all know it's a tax on people sphwhvment what mandate [inaudible] price controls. >> [ laughter ] what we did in that room is how to make this work. >> really realistic guy. i just can't too this. it's not going to happen
politically. it's not going to pass. ted kennedy rip off the feds for $400 million a year. >> very clever, you know, basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the american voter. >> the american voter is too stupid to understand. >> transparency a huge political advantage. basically calling call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever, basically that was really, really critical to getting this thing to pass. >> there you go. president obama also dismissed gruber as an advisor. he was never on our staff as i just said. and joining us now our political panel tonight the "the washington post" philip bunk, national review's rich lowry. gentlemen, welcome. it's just disturbing on any level really to watch this. and to listen to this man sort of belittle the american people and act like, you know, we are all smarter than they are and this is what is good for them. if they sort of suck it up, they will realize we know what's going on and we know what's supposed to happen and it's all going to turn out just fine for those dumb
people in the end. rich? >> it's devastating and i think it's a window into the progressive mind. i don't think anyone is standing up in i of these meetings what are you saying i'm outraged by this. >> nodding and laughing and chuckling. >> these denials from the administration, from nancy pelosi, basically, they are claiming that he just showed up in the oval office meetings without anyone knowing who he was. and just there accidently. as if they forget there is historical record and videotape of all of them citing him and praising him because he was a key guru in this process and cited as such by the press for years. there is a reinstates were hiring him so much money to help set up their exchanges because this guy was the -- was central to the process all along. >> all right. so the white house tim to some extent loose cannon we don't know who he. putting it off on him. that's not what our bill is about. that's not what we have intended.
we want the american people to know we have been transparent throughout this whole process. >> that's what the mouse is saying because they are trying to look forward. when i was invited on the show today we were going to ask is the white house going to talk about david gruber or obamacare? i think they should talk about obamacare if they want to get around. this the open enrollment period begun. going pretty well. 70% of people on the obamacare exchanges like it. c about. o confirms it's cutting cost. down. this is obviously a distraction for the administration. i think the question is with the republicans in office right now senator michigan mcconnell now has the opportunity to push some of those bills that representative nome just told us about to fix it. i think the question for senator mcconnell is what is the best way to get my republican ideas into this bill? and i don't know if that is putting david cutler in front -- excuse me, that's another economist. jonathan gruber in front of the senate i which. do americans really care what an academic said in 2009 or fixing problems now. >> the problem is that it's
the underhighing elements that is he saying that is true. >> which underlying elements. >> pass it is a tax. if you want to cover everybody in america. >> wrote a great column. >> this man has come prepared use my words against me. >> the administration has said when this bill was so contentious and having the such trouble getting it through big democratic majorities. of this is a wide ranging tax increase on the american people. involves enormous new spending. don't necessarily get to keep your healthcare plan if you like it. it never would have passed. never. >> exactly. and i think that there is a very particular interpretation of what mr. gruber is saying is the one that has caught the public's imagination totally justifiably. the reason distancing itself is incredibly stupid to say.
also interpretation of what he said that is about how it is difficult to convey the complex is is. >> people did get it. they are not stupidity. >> rich says they were mislead but you said they quote it. it it wasn't that it was so hard to explain this complex law they made the law more complex to make it difficult to understand. that's why there are no direct taxes on anyone. that's the point is he making. you say it's on insurance companies and employers and you hide the ball and you deny all the way all -- it did, that you are taxing insurance plans for individuals because it gets passed down. >> in an attempt to make
bipartisan bill didn't work. very food reasons it didn't work. political reasons and economic reasons it didn't work. i totally accept that the position we are in now is there are three states of questions around obamacare. there is the existent current question we are discussing now to what extent did the great lakes work with gruber on obamacare act. aca. different question related to the first one. then there is the question of how much good is obamacare doing. >> supreme court ruled it was a tax. they substantiated everything griewner said in this it would be passed on to the american people and it would be a tax. that's how they judged it to be legal in the end. gruber is saying that's what we knew all along we couldn't present this it that way people didn't like it. they didn't want their cost to go up. want everybody to have cheaper healthcare which hasn't turned out to be the case. >> both of you agreed we're
going to raise everyone's income taxes. >> 2.% income tax increase. >> we have to lee it there. if you thought jonathan griewber was insulting to americans before, listen to this. he also says that older americans, seniors, actually do a terrible job in his opinion of choosing their healthcare plan. according to a presentation slide that he wrote last year and representative michele bachmann joins us now. representative, good to have you tonight. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> is this just about jonathan gruber? he is unappealing and saying things that upset people and doesn't have effect on underlying law. >> it absolutely has impact on underlying law. that's what the underlying law is it says we are big government. we're going to make the decisions. you go stand in the corner and you pay the bills. you get whatever it is that we say you are going to get. what this really shows, these commence from jonathan gruber is what leftist really think about the american people when they are behind closed doors the
mask came down and now they think that senior citizens are stupid. they aren't capable of making their own choices on prescription drugs. again, this gives us more fuel, martha going forward for repeal. the night that obamacare passed i was on the floor of the house of representatives. i went back to my office. the next morning we introduced the repeal of obamacare. that's the heart of the american people. we believe in freedom and choice. whatever happened to the old mantra women's lives and women's freedom it's all lost in this bill. women, millennials, senior stipulates, americans of all walks of life want the highest quality healthcare at the lowest possible price and the best access for everyone. that's not obamacare. leftist don't give americans that option. that's why this will be
rejected in when we have a new president in 2016. we will finally get good quality healthcare. >> you heard perhaps one of my previous guests who said the enrollment period is opened. it's going well. they are getting more and more people to sign up. he feels that this jonathan gruber issue is something that's going to wash away because a lot of people are going to be really happy with what they have. >> that's all happy pink fog because it's not true. it's not what's happening on the ground. we have a lot of people that have trouble getting into these web sites. the other thing, martha, is sticker shock. we are seeing huge increases in these premiums. not only in the obamacare exchanges. but in the private market. remember, a lot of times it's the private market where we are getting healthcare through our employers. it's the private market offset government programs medicaid or whatever government program. the costs are going through the roof. everything president obama offered is to me the biggest one people need to remember. remember, president obama promised us that our health
insurance premiums would reduce 2500 a year. put your hand up. if your healthcare premiums reduced 2500 a year. no one's did. that's why i'm confident this will be repealed one day not now but after 2016 it's going to happen. people should hold on to hope. >> we will see. congresswoman thank you. good to have you with us tonight. thank you. >> what does jonathan gruber have to say about all of this today. today shawn hannity sent a crew to mit to ask him that question. >> do you really think the american voters are stupid? what about the obamacare? is that just a hoax on the american people? >> very chatty before but didn't have much to say. at that moment we will she show you more of that hannity exclusive come up tonight on hannity. and straight ahead right here, you will hear from the parents of the third american who was beheaded by isis, an awful, awful story and this poor family as they are dealing with this today. what the obama
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broken, understandably. over the weekend isis released a new video showing the severed head of american aide worker peter kassig. and right now, intel officials are scouring that video for any clues that it might provide. defense one's kevin barron joins you now. welcome, good to have you here tonight. >> thank you. >> it's a rough story. once again, i think all of us were shocked to hear that this could happen again. and i know that when we look at this video, it's different than the ones that we have seen in the past. what do you think it reveals, kevin? this video is different in that it is a little longer. it also shows syrian captures who are well subject to pee heading. not just about an american. this is someone who was unfortunately expected to be beheaded just by everyone's best hopes but what's different is that it doesn't end with the threat of another american hostage
being pee headed. it's a longer propaganda video. >> he is not kneeling as we have seen in the other videos of stephan sotloff and james folly. is there significant to that in your mind, kevin? >> i'm not so sure, i would know. >> when you look at the syrian metropolitan doing that act, are not wearing masks and faces clear on the video ofs. i know there san evident by the french and british and our intel folks as well to identify these individuals and track them down, right? >> there is. 's it not as easy as one would think with facial by metrics. but that is significant. it just shows how much more brazen the campaign has become. it's not that same jihadi john who may have been injured in the strike recently. this is just a whole group of them.
and it's just one more example of how little fear, it seems, that the isis fighters who are doing the beheadings have, how much they clearly are intending to do it and to draw as big a reaction they can from the west. >> i saw today, the london times headline tomorrow morning reads worldwide manhunt for isis killers. that's coming out of london. and i wonder what our headlines will say tomorrow morning about the people that we see in this video. what is your take on the pentagon and what their next move is? >> >> couple things. one thing to think we are looking at individual killers doing killings. larger war. harminger military campaign. the hatest information right before i came out here that i'm hearing is that the pentagon under secretary policy has sent a letter to representative duncan hunter on the hill saying that the obama administration is going to take a look at their hostage policy which everyone knows is officially
no negotiating for hostages for terrorists. no paying of ransoms. that's been called into question by this series of hostages. especially the americans who it seems are the ones that get drawn out and beheaded where other countries, their hostages don't. >> do you think they are reconsidering that policy? >> the policies are under consideration the way the letter is read is that it is for the consideration of the how families are involved. what can be done. it does not say specifically that the u.s. is going to rethink whether or not to pay for ransoms or negotiate with terrorists. honestly, that's what everyone wants. what critics like duncan hunter want to be considered. again, america and great britain are the only countries are the ones most visible where their hostages are the ones not making it out alive. >> we have got go. kevin, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> what should the obama administration be doing in these cases to stop isis
before they murder more americans? former congressman alan hunt, alan west, excuse me, joins me now. congressman, welcome. good to have you here. >> thanks, martha. >> i'm curious what you think about that. apparently, areasonable doubt doing to our last quest, we are considering rethinking our policy when it comes to negotiating for these terrorists, at least, you know, there are new ideas that are being put on the table. i think that much we can say at this point. >> well, that's a horrible policy because in that part of the world any time you are talking about negotiation and appeasement or more rhetoric in talk you are seeing as being extremely weak. in the middle east, weakness is truly emboldening to the enemies. this is an enemy you are going to have to meet on the battlefield. you will have to decisively destroy him. that is something that we possess the capability and the capacity to do. but, right now, isis is winning two very important phases of this battle. and that's the psychological phase. and that's also the
information operations phase. because, what they are showing is that they are the strong tribe. the united states of america is not. and they continue to pee head american citizens. i think they also hold a 26-year-old american female and god help us if they decide to do unto her as they have done unto other kurdish females in the area. now is the time we have to take action. there is no more time for rhetoric, words or negotiation policies. >> what do you think we should do? what's the action that you would take? >> well, without a doubt, we have the capability with our air ground task forces, with the united states marines and also army combat brigades. when you think about the fact that you have about 3,000 american troops on the ground right now, that's the equivalent to an american soldier force. we should be employing them to go out and, number one, identify the right type of strike target so that we can bring our air platforms to
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w. president bush talking about his dad and his new book which is called 41, a portrait of my father. and they are not your typical father and son, of course, former presidents both george h.w. bush share that special bond. both holding our nation's highest office. tonight president george w. bush one-on-one with greta at his childhood home in midland, texas. first, he talks about the worldwide respect that he sees out there for his father, our nation's 41st president. watch. >> highly respected him in the political process. the leaders with whom he served really appreciated how he handled being being the president most powerful country in the world. >> and you even write about that in the book, for instance, when the berlin wall came down, you know, he wasn't out there bragging and talking about country. as a vice he had ton an awful lot for the fall. >> he helped. of course he was president
when the wall came down. big criticism as he said i'm not going to go dance on the wall. the reason why was one, you know, he didn't want to brag secondly, wasn't about him. it was about success of, you know, an ideology prevailing over another ideology. as well he didn't want to pressure the hardliners and he didn't want to incite the hardliners inside the soviet to pressure gorbachev to make radical decisions toward -- in order to stay in power. >> when you look at what happened during the 1 years, years as vice president. 4 years as president in russia and crumbling of the soviet empire. what's happening now? and how do we get here? we have putin sort of making inroads? >> leadership matters. and, you know, during my presidency, vladimir putin began to, you know, kind of really act in terms of zero subpolitics. in other words, it's either i win or you win.
neither of us can win together. there is not much accountability in russia anymore. he doesn't have a critical media. and it seems like the political process is being kind of tailored toward keeping him in office. and so, you know, we are just going to have to continue to rally the world to deal with him. >> it's interesting how the relationship your father had with gorbachev, i realize putin is a different man. >> yeah. >> you had a good relationship with putin. >> initially i did, yeah. and then the price of oil went up and then he became more independent began to use energy as a way to reestablish the soviet. the demise of the soviet really affected putin and he thought it was bad for the world an has said that. i'm not putting words in his mouth which is a different attitude that gorbachev had. each presidency you have got to deal with in different environment. there are some constants
which is thinking about how the other person thinks is important to conducting good diplomacy. that's one of the reasons why george bush is the master of personal diplomacy. >> he wrote letters forever. >> he did. >> a lot of people have letters from him. >> you have got some. >> i got some. >> i put some of them in the book. is he a powerful letter writer. it seems to be a lost art these days because of the spell check and, you know, you just say to the computer write this, please, and it does. seems to want to do that. in his case he wrote thousands of letters, letters to people that he would meet in the iowa coffee shop. people that he worked with. the guy that helped with the bags at a hotel. i mean, he was unbelievable letter writer. >> but the thing that i have noted about him is that he makes everybody in the room feel important. when you to in to interview president bush 41. every single person is important. >> that's right. >> except for him. >> exactly. >> which is a problem if you
are trying to interview him. >> no. he is great. he is a thoughtful man. who cares deeply about the other person. >> you also write in the book about the rise of isis. >> yes, i did. >> how did we get there? >> well, you know, i think i made it clear i'm not going to criticize the president but i said in the book isis needs to be defeated. the president has said a goal is to degrade and defeat isis and hopefully the strategy that he is employing works because isis is a real threat. they are evil. as he said. and murdering the innocent to advance a political objective is and always has been evil. and so let's just hope the president meets the goal he outlined. >> in your book though you go back a little bit further when was pretty much isolated in syria before it had spread. >> you mean in iraq? >> into iraq. >> yeah. we defeated them in iraq during the surge. and they have been
rejuvenated and they can only exist where they find safe haven. in other words, you know, most people tonight want around. most mothers want their children to grow up in a peaceful world. most people want there to be fairness. they are not fair. they are brutal. where there is safe haven they thrive and therefore it's important to deny safe haven. step two of the bush doctrine if you harbor a terrorist you are equally as guilty as the tastes. >> it's terrible what happened to the american over the weekend another beheading. >> it's so sad. my heart goes out to his parents. i mean, it's just sad. >> there is nothing -- we just watch. >> yeah. i mean, these phis are killers. >> greta's conversation with president bush continues. what are the chances of another bush running the white house? that guy over there on the right bush 43 answers that question coming up next.
welcome back, now more of fret's interview with president george w. bush. watch. >> why do you think it is every sing gel person i have met whether it's republican, democrat. whether you agree with president bush 41 or not. you meet him, you love him. what is it about him? >> is he a gentle soul. and he cares about the other person a lot. fle he has got a wonderful since of humor and he is comfortable as they say in his own skin. in other words, he has learned a lot about himself in life. he is just a comfortable person to be around. he is considerate. he doesn't harbor grudges. one reason is he such a great diplomat is he tried to figure out how the other person thought. you have got to be pretty humble to be able to do that. he is a hummable man. >> he is fun humble man. >> when you pants with paint he said he liked them. >> i'm sitting there and writing this book. of course he knows i'm writing a book. is he getting ready to jump
out of the airplane the exin day. soon to be 90 gazing out looking over the atlantic. this a moment of great insight into life and what he is thinking. i said dad, it's beautiful out there. >> oh, yeah. the ocean is beautiful. i'm waiting this pregnant pause hoping he will sail and, son, here is a lesson you can take. say, do those pants come in clean which is typical of george h.w. bush. he is light hearted man. in order to be light hearted you have got to be a humble person. you can't take yourself so seriously that you can't laugh. >> talk about being humble. i tease he is the world's "the washington post" interview because he won't admit to doing anything he done. i once interviewed him about the enter line wall coming down. anybody could have been doing. i almost ended up interviewing myself. >> his mother raised him not to brag. you know, which can be a liability in the political world. talk about yourself and
explain and explain the says successes you have had in order to try to convince convince people in the future the he wasn't that good about that. >> interesting lay out foreign policy. he was the vice president. weave had a soviet empire as a big foe by the time he finished his presidency. they had fallen apart. they had crumbled to nothing. he didn't brag about it. so unless he is out there pushing it. you know, that -- but your book talks about that. >> the reason why is because he understands his people will ultimately be the -- history will be the fair judge. you can't we write history. he didn't be write a post presidency book. he shared a title. but he is one of the few parents never to have written a peculiar about himself. >> there was some things he write about in his book "newsweek" called him a wimp. bombing missions in the
pacific. best friend carrier shot down himself and lost two crew mace "newsweek" called him a wimp. that's not exactly the world i would use. >> obviously a day he announced for president by the way in '88. needless to say, i hit the roof, unlike dad, i'm a little more expressive sometimes. >> more like your mother? >> sadly -- i mean happily, of course. no, yeah, it was i put the story in there to remind people that sometimes parts of the media try to influence people's opinions. and it was just unfair. and it was what happens in the political process. >> let's talk about your brother recommendation jeb, sure. >> o'neil. >> finally somebody wants to talk about neil or marvin. >> neil is actually a letter writer. i did a charity for points of life which is one of the things your father developed during his presidency. >> thank you. >> he sent me a handwritten
note. >> he is a good boy. good man. jeb, is he wrestling with the decision to run for president. and he knows what it is like. he has seep his dad, seen his brother. there is no pressure anybody can put on him. i'm confident as he travels around the country he is hearing people say you ought to run and i'm sure he is flattered by that. but only he can make the decision and there is nothing anybody can say to him to help him better understand, you know, the decision-making process. and i don't know when he is going to decide. i don't know if he is leaning one way or the other. i do know this. he would be a really good president. how would he be a different president? >> people are going to have to assess that himself. he got out of the university of texas two and a half years with a five beta capita. he has been a very successful governor of a big
state. obviously we are a little different but, you know, i'm not that food about -- let me just say this. we share a lot in comop be why love our country. we both have seen a man go into public service and not have to sacrifice that which is important, such as fatherhood. neither of us fear failure. i happen to think a lot of it has to do with our dad. i know jeb doesn't fear success. in other words, i know he could do -- i knows he knows he could too the job. after all he saw his brother do it. you know, he is -- he is a lot taller than i am. [ laughter ] you know, i don't know. hopefully we will have a chance to compare. you will have a chance to compare once he gets to be president. >> fun to listen to what your mother has to say about it. >> yeah, mother is, i in the book i put in there when i told her i was getting ready to run against ann richard, the governor of texas, her answer was you're not going
to win. she is too popular. the reason i mention that is mother's political progress anastos at prognostication hasn't been all that good. she is speaking, i guess, as a concerned mother. and you know what evidence time she says don't do something, her children tend to want to do it. >> the way mothers are, all right? coming up, george w. bush takes you on a personal tour of his childhood home. very interesting.
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where would would walk to school down the street here and a lot of outdoor activities. it was the 50s. >> yeah. this is actually a replica, i have been told, of the table that your mother and father -- it's a card table. the chairs are very modest. >> yeah, exactly. >> this refrigerator which i love the color is actually not the refrigerator you had but is your mother-in-law's laura bush. >> jenna, yes. very nice of her but it's of the period. >> very pretty. this is what i like foot where you can open it like that. >> that must have been more one of the more modern ones. >> in the old days as i recall, we didn't drink out of the faucet because the water was so hard. it was the beginning of ozarka, the name of a water. a lot of people used it. people's teeth used to get real yellow out here because of the hard water. >> the phone, one phone line in the family. >> yeah. >> 4480. >> you remember that?
>> no. of course, let me give you the tour of your childhood bedroom. >> this is fantastic. it's awesome. it's beautiful, isn't it? the wood is beautiful. this is exactly the way it was. >> were you a cub scout? >> i was a cub. >> were you any good? >> no. but i was a cub. guess hot den mother was? >> i hate to guess. >> mother? >> yeah. ill kind of peaked as a cub scout, however. i was a proud cub scout. so i used to quip mother has gray hair because she was the den mother. >> i didn't say your father didn't have a good background his father was a senator. and we talked about this is that he could have lived a very different life. he could have, you know, when he graduated from high school, he volunteered for the war and being shot down we discussed that. but he also had other hardship, youship child. it wasn't his first job here sweeping floors. this is a guy who actually did it himself. >> it kind of defies the
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