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pampered their whole lives an the sad reality is you get slapped in the face all the time. you got to get tough. >> not too a $500 reward from the grateful family. that's it for us here in washington. "fox news sunday" is up next. i'm chris wallace. the new congress with its republican majority convenes this week. but will they cooperate with president obama or confront him? >> i'm being absolutely sincere when i say, i want to work with this new congress to get things done. >> we'll see whether we can work with the president. i hope so. that's what he says. we'll find out. >> we'll discuss the gop agenda with two senators set to take over key panels. bob corker, likely chair of the foreign relations committee and john thune, who's expected to head the senate commerce committee. then former governor mike huckabee ends his show on fox news as he considers another try
for the white house. >> there's been a great deal of speculation as to whether i would run for president. and if i were willing to absolutely rule that out, i could keep doing this show. but i can't make such a declaration. >> our sunday panel handy capsicaps the field from the front-runners to their favorite long-shots. a wave of new republicans hits washington. we'll ask two stars of the gop's freshmen class in the house what they hope to accomplish. martha mcsally of arizona and lee zeldin of new york. and our chief trying to change the future. >> somewhere in the future is a jetson future, but we're not there right now. >> all new on "fox news sunday." hello again from fox news in washington. the new year brings a new
republican-controlled congress to capitol hill. and the gop promises to tackle issues from the keystone pipeline to iran and try to find some way to push back against the president's executive actions. joining us now two senators expected to be named this week to cherokee panels. from tennessee, bob corker of the foreign relations committee and from south dakota john thune, of commerce. before we get to your contest, let's -- committees, let's take a look at the relationship between the new republican congress and the president. here is how mr. obama says 2015. >> where i see a big problem and the opportunity to help the american people and it is within my lawful authority to provide that help, i'm going to do it. and i will then side by side reach out to members of congress, reach out to republicans and say, let's work together. i'd rather do it with you. >> senator corker, can you do business with president obama on
some issues, like tax reform and trade authority when he's off taking executive action on his own in other areas? >> absolutely. look, obviously we have not liked the executive actions that were especially taken after the lame duck, but we understand with humility we've got a lot of serious issues that need to be addressed. the bigger issues absolutely require the president to be involved. and i think with anticipation we look forward to that opportunity. >> senator thune how do you draw the balance between on the one hand, trying to work with the president in areas where there is some bipartisan agreement, but also passing measures such as repealing obamacare and trying to undo his executive action on immigration reform, which you know he'll veto? >> well, chris i think there are a lot of areas where they can work together. right out of the gate, we're going to act in the senate on
the keystone pipeline. we think the president ought to sign that into law. his own administration has now done five environmental impact statements saying they would have a minimal impact on environment and his own state department says it will produce 40,000 jobs. we'll find out early on if the president wants to play ball based on our past experience it would be the triumph of hope over experience, but you always enter a new session of congress with high hopes. i know that republicans in the senate are looking forward to and willing to work with the president on areas where we can create jobs and grow the economy and strengthen america's middle class. i hope the president will meet us there. >> let me ask you about this senator thune, hearing both you and senator corker, i get a distinct sense from both of you that you're more interested in compromise than confrontation. >> i think, chris, what we want to see are solutions. we want to see solutions for the american people. we hope the president will meet us there. it takes presidential leadership
to do big things in washington, d.c. and, obviously, there are a number of things where there's bipartisan support, bills that have passed the house of representatives that have been stalled out in the senate. we want to star there, move those bills, president them on the president's desk and we'll find out whether or not he wants to be a willing partner. i certainly hope he does because we have some big things we need to do for the american people, when it comes to growing the economy and creating jobs and creating a stronger middle class for our country. >> one more question for you, senator thune then i'll bring senator corker in, a potential flashpoint. that is immigration. you, the republican congress has only funded the department of homeland security until the end of february while you try to find some way to undo his executivede deferring deportations. can you promise the republican congress will not shut down
funding for the department that protects our homeland? and how will senate republicans handle someone like ted cruz who may take a harder line and in the past has been willing to stand on principle and shut down the government over that? >> right. we're not going to shut the government down -- >> including the department of homeland security? >> well, including that. that funding bill expires at the end of february. we recognize it's important we fund the government. now that we're in the majority, we have the responsibility to do that. we're also going to use the power of the purse which is what the constitution gives the congress as a mechanism by which to challenge the president on issues where we think he's overstepped his authority. what he did on immigration is clearly an example of that. he said on 22 different occasions that he didn't have the legal or constitutional authority to do this. and he did it anyway. that needs to be challenged. we will look for any opportunity to do that. but it's also going to be important for us to recognize it as a majority in the house and the senate, we now have the responsibility to get things
done for the country and make sure our government is funded. but funded in a way that's consistent with what i think the american people said in the november election, that is they want congress more involved in these issues and not have the president overreaching as he has in the past with executive power. >> let me bring in you senator corker. you're going to be the chair. we have to say that you're likely to be because the committee has to actually vote to this week. but you'll be the chair of the senate foreign relations committee. there's so much on your plate that our colleague george will has a column in today's paper in which he calls you the senator to watch in 2015. so let's do a lightning round of quick confess, quick answers. the president's order to renew relations with cuba, will you block any nominee to be a new ambassador to cuba and will you fight the president's effort to relax the trade embargo? >> chris, as i said when the announcement was made, the first thing we want to do is
understand what behavioral change cuba is willing to make. so, you'll see some rigorous hearings. i don't fully understand what the telecom company is being open to going into cuba, what that really means. no one has seen a list of the political folks being released from jail. so, there's a lot to know. you'll see us having some hearings before decisions are made as to what to do relative to this action. >> let's turn to another subject, that is iran. do you have a veto-proof majority in the senate to pass a new bill in this next few weeks or months that would -- if iran walks away from the current talks or if it violates the interim agreement, would impose new sanctions on them? >> chris, there's no question that if this deal falls apart there's going to be additional sanctions. so the banking committee actually deals with sanctions.
that's their jurisdiction. i actually serve on that. foreign relations committee may take up a bill that calls this congress to have to weigh in on any deal that happens. this is one of the biggest issues we'll be dealing with. and for congress not to have a role is totally inappropriate. we'll move through the committee process. the banking committee will take up one aspect of this. the foreign relations committee will take up another. through regular order, we'll see what will happen. but i don't think there's any question by those in iran or around the world that if this falls apart certainly there's going to be additional sanctions. the question is, when do you do that? when do you signal that? we're paying a lot of attention to the negotiations. we're talking to people all around the world. we'll see as we move ahead. >> >> we're in a lightning round, to quick confess, quick answers. guantanamo, the president transferred 28 detainees out of gitmo this last year. can you block them, if he decides to try to close gitmo on
his own? >> well, again, the '01 authorization for the use of military force is an issue that's still open. we've had meetings with the white house over that. part of that relates to what you can do with gitmo. you know the fact is that all of us have been open to major changes at gitmo, but we're waiting for the administration to lay out a plan. what he's doing right now is not as sensible as laying out a plan for the future as to how we're going to deal with all of the detainees at gitmo. >> but if he tries to close it on his own, will you block him? >> well, you know we'll see. we'll see where they're going. if he tries to close it on his own, we'll see. i mean is there a plan of some kind that he has laid out? that's what all of us have been seeking -- for the last six years. that is a plan, ever since he's been in office to deal with an issue he campaigned on while he was running and yet has never been forthcoming with.
>> and let me ask you one last question under the lightning rounds of quick questions, quick answers, sir and that is isis, will your panel pass an authorization for the use of military force specifically to deal with isis? and what will you say about the use of u.s. ground troops? >> well, on isis, i think what we're all hoping to happen is getting the white house to lay out a plan that has a plausible -- shows a plausible way to the outcome that they rhetorically have outlined. so, it depends. certainly, we'll have hearings in january and february. hopefully they will finally come forth and lay out to us how they will achieve that outcome. to me that's an important part of any authorization we might put forth with syria. >> senator thune, let me turn to you. and the commerce committee, one of the big items on your agenda is you have to find a way to finance the transportation bill, which would pay for upkeep of
our highways, under the public transit system. with gas prices now under $2.50 a gallon, would you favor increasing the gas tax? >> i don't favor increasing any tax, chris. i think we have to look at all the options. we obviously have a big delta we have to meet. the highway bill expires at the end of may. and there's about $100 billion shortfall over what it would take to fund the highway trust fund at the current level of operation. so, obviously we have things to deal with here. there are a number of ways you can deal with it. those discussions will continue. we can get to a resolution on that. it is important we fund infrastructure and our committee deals with that as well as planes, trains, automobiles -- >> let me interrupt because we're running out of time. senator corker and others have suggested a 12 cent per gallon in gas tax over the next two years up. certainly sound like you're not ruling that out.
>> bob corker has a proposal out there. others have suggestions as well. we appreciate the fact that we've got solutions that are being put forward. i don't think we take anything off the table at this point. i think it's important to recognize we have a problem, an issue we need a solution for. and we need to look at all the possible, you know, ways out there in which we can address the challenge and address the problem. that's one proposal that's out there. bob corker has been taking a strong stand on that issue. >> one final question -- >> chris if i could. >> sure. >> i just want to point out that yes, we have proposed raising the gas lineoline tax user fee by 12 cents but offsetting other taxes americans would pay. it's revenue neutral. but at least it would put our infrastructure on strong footing. that second component seems to get left out of the conversation most of the time. yes, i believe that's what we should do. >> well, thank you for that clarification. final question for you, senator thune, less than a minute left.
keystone, we talked about it at the very beginning. that's not going to be handled by your committee. energy committee will take the lead on that. but it does run through your state. do you have a veto-proof majority in the senate to force the president to approve the keystone pipeline? >> i think the question is chris, whether or not there are -- we're going to find out whether or not there are moderate democrats in the senate. this will -- this is something that has broad bipartisan support in the house of representatives. it has a number of democrats supporting it in the senate. the question is can we get to 57 if the president decides to veto it? that's a good question. it's up to those democrats who have expressed support for this in the past as to now whether or not now that it really matters, it's not just a symbolic vote, whether or not they'll be there. >> you intend to push that. let me just ask briefly in about 30 seconds, if i may if the president decides to veto it, what will that say about him? >> well i think the president -- what it will say about him, for one is that he's
listening again to his sort of left wing base on this issue rather than to where the american people are, who are overwhelmingly supportive of the project. and where there's a fairly bigbie partisan support in the congress. so, we'll see. i mean, i think we're going to get an indication of how this president wants to govern over the last two years and how he wants to work with republicans in congress. this will certainly be a way in which we can measure where he's going to come down. >> senator thune, senator corker, thank you both so much for coming in today. thanks for joining us. we'll be following you during the new year. >> sounds good. thanks, chris. up next, 2015 has just begun but some people are already talking about 2016 as the presidential field starts to take shape. our sunday group joins that conversation. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the run for the white house? just go to facebook or twitter @foxnewssunday and we
the honorable thing to do at this point is to end my tenure here at fox. now, as much as i have loved doing the show i cannot bring myself to rule out another presidential run. >> former governor mike huckabee announcing last night he is ending his show on fox news channel as he decides by this spring about another possible run for president. it's time for our sunday group, co-host "the five," dana perino, ron fournier laura ingraham neera tanden. dana, the real clear politics average of recent polls shows jeb bush now in the lead, as you can see there.
a bit of a lead over chris christie and paul ryan. mike huckabee is close behind in a third tier as you can see here with rand paul and ben carson and scott walker. dana, if he run, how serious a contender is mike huckabee? >> in this point we're in let a thousand flowers bloom, as we turn the corner we're going from wild speculation to slightly more informed speculation about who might run. huckabee will have a strong stand in a few states. in particular, he'll start strong in iowa. that's important for him. i think that what they're all needing to do is figure out some personnel. be watching for that. who's going to be joining up with these guys? also, what sort of big ideas might they have? i think polling showing jeb bush in the front is just a name i.d. issue at this point. i don't think the polls are accurate. >> huckabee didn't say he was running. what he basically said he is
can't be on fox and actively explore and one of the big issues for him is always money. he'll spend the next few months trying to explore whether or not he has the financial support to actually run. we asked you for questions for the panel. we got this from steve on twitter pep write twitter. he writes, who will pick the nominee? the media/gop establishment or the base? how do you answer steve? what are the chances for an insurgent, more conservative candidate knocking off the punitive front-runner jeb bush? and could mike huckabee fill that role? >> first question i think anything can happen this election. election is a lot more unpredictable than we would like to admit, especially at a time when the country is changing dramatically and the voting pop you populous is so upset with both establishments. i look at the dark horse and give them more consideration. like a rick snyder in pennsylvania or mike pence in
indiana. i think swrekd a big surprise this election. mike huck abeeshgs i covered him in arkansas along with bill clinton. interesting guy, a lot of attributes but he also has a lot of baggage from arkansas, like the clintons did. his decision to release wayne dumont, who went on to kill after that. and a wedding registry, which was a very unethical thing to do although the clintons did it later in 2000. it's interesting. i wouldn't rule anybody out right now. >> laura, big picture, how do you handicap the race? how strong is jeb bush? who do you see as the republican's potential candidate out there, most likely to knock him off? lastly as we tee it up to go to neera, can anyone beat hillary clinton? >> i disagree slightly with dana, who is good to see. i think money is a big part of this. jeb bush has been courting the
top to the party, millionaires, billionaires, trying to lock them down. he's been doing that quite well. there's one opportunity to knock off the establishment candidate and if that's one conservative alternative to whoever that establishment candidate is. mike huckabee is -- i like mike a lot. i think he's strong. he would probably do better serving conservativism if he had run for one of the two open seats in arkansas. he didn't do that. he had a great show on fox. i would predict huckabee won't be president of the united states. >> who is likely the conservative person to run against -- >> jeb? i think there's an interesting play. people are going to bristle at this when i say this, but what if chris christie decides to be the anti-establishment candidate? and chris christie actually decides to take on the bush establishment establishment? not as a person. we all love the bushes but his policy his popularity, what he did on foreign policy and economic policy. i'm not saying that's going to
happen but that's an interesting thought. the idea there's going to be 15 conservatives and one of them is going to beat whoever that establishment candidate is maybe christie, maybe bush, i think it's ludzicrous. it's not going to happen. >> the conventional wisdom on hillary clinton is she had a bad 2014. well, let me just make the case. dead broke before -- when they left the white house. corporations don't create jobs. you have to empathize with your enemy. can she raise the level of her game? >> i would say hillary had a very good year. if you look at end-of-year polls where if she had a really bad year and is still beating republicans by double digits, then it's going to be a brutal year for the next two years for the republican party. she had a book tour. she had -- she admitted she had some inartful statements on that tour. but i think you saw at the end of the year that she has still very strong support amongst all corners of the democratic party and, most importantly with the american public. people see her as a strong
leader for these tough times. and i don't think anything happened this year that took away those fundamentals. >> laura? >> hillary will get covered by the press and they will cover for her. the idea that you know hillary -- hillary's -- >> going to cover -- >> hillary will get an easy ride. i think jeb will probably get a fairly easy ride until he's the nominee. if he's the nominee. he's the nominee, then the press, well, what about this health care, what about these barclays connection? >> she didn't get an easy ride on -- >> not the campaign yet. the campaign is about to start. >> everything about 2007 was an easy ride. >> it's different. you had a care is ahmadinejadcharismatic, young african-american, who compared to hillary was connected to that anti-war sentiment. this is an entirely different game and i think the republicans have to bring up their game to defeat the clinton twosome of bill and hillary who are
powerful and adept at politics. >> having covered her since the mid-1980s, hillary has never gotten answer easy right ride from the media and she won't this time. the problem is she's establishment. politics as usual. the 19d 90s. this is an election where people crave change, transformational change. unless she can show she can run a campaign completely differently -- >> but if it's bush versus hillary -- >> doesn't take it away. >> i disagree. >> that's the one knock -- there's a bunch of knocks you hear about hillary. one is, she's tiered. >> i think hillary has to show if she runs for president she has new ideas for new times. these are very different times from the '90s. necessity call for new solutions. she has to do that. just like any candidate who wants to be president is going to do that. i think she will be able to do that because always been a substantive candidate with ideas about what the country needs. one idea she is so popular is because people thought she was a strong leader as secretary of
state. >> dana, good for bad for clinton if she doesn't face a serious primary challenge? she wouldn't be forced to move to the left to cover her liberal flank. on the other hand, she wouldn't have that test that makes someone a better candidate when she face the other party in the general election. >> that's what i was thinking. a primary allows you to make some mistakes get your sea legs work out some kinks, come up with big ideas. jeb bush has something called big, hairy, audacious goals. those are things he'll lay out. she has less of a clean slate to start with. and she's in a tough spot between a rock and a hard place. ideologically to win a primary, to get a challenge, she needs to align someone more like president obama. but to win the general she would need to align and govern more like bill clinton. both of these candidates if they were to run, jeb and hillary will be constantly diedtied to other people. i want to see if they can break out, be independent on their own. who are they as people? it might be the first presidential election where we
actually refer to the candidates by their first names jeb and hillary. >> i think hillary -- i think she's her own person. >> that's my resolution for 2015. i'm not referring to jeb and hillary. it's clinton and bush. we have to take a break. we'll see you later in the program. so, what do you think? how do you see the race for president shaping up? let me know on facebook or twitter @foxnewssunday. use the #fns. up next, the republican wave finally hits washington. we'll sit down with two new house members to find out how they want to change things here. ♪ nineteen years ago, we thought "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our angie's list app. visit angieslist.com today. ♪
on tuesday the new republican-led congress will be sworn in. and that will be the first official day on the job for the incoming freshmen class. joining us here to talk about their goals, new york congressman elect lee zeldin and martha
m congratulations. welcome to "fox news sunday." you both beat democratic incumbents congresswoman mack sally, you won the closest house election. you won by just 167 votes. i'm sure you'll jokes if you haven't already, landslide mcsally.
>> yes. my new call sign. >> what do you think about the voters in your district want you to do? do they want you to work with president obama? >> my district is diverse and i think it represents america. yeah, 50% of the people didn't vote for me. what i was hearing through the course of the almost three years campaigning, was people want congress to work for them. their focus areas from southern arizona are the economy and security. those are really the two main issues. democrats, business owners, can agree they want to grow their small
business. kids graduating from college want job opportunities. those are not politically charged issues. they want me to focus on the things that unite us as a country and not the things that divide us. so, can you expect me to be focusing on growing the economy getting people back to work, also the areas of security. border security. i'm one of nine border districts. i have two big army bases. those are the focus issues. >> we'll get into immigration in a little more detail in a
moment. congressman zeldin, you say president obama's decision to -- his executive action on immigration to defer deportations is unconstitutional. you also say we shouldn't shut down the government. where do you put yourself on the spectrum between, on the one hand, ted cruz and the tea party, let's stand up and confront the president stand on principle even if it means things like shutting down the government, and on the other hand the establishment leaders like speaker born whoehner. >> it seems like he thinks he's a monarch. over the course of our nation we've been sensitive to presidents who view the executive branch in that fashion. i think it's very important going forward as we move into january/february, whether it's through legislation or the funding of part of the budget at the end of february, that we use the power of the purse. that congress uses this message
sent in november this -- >> are you saying you would let funding for the department of homeland security, which runs out at the end of february run out to make a point to the president about immigration? >> all options need to be on the table. we need to utilize the power of the purse. if we show no willingness at all to use that power to our advantage, the leverage is immediately off of the table. >> you both -- i don't think a lot of people are going to know this. you both served in the military. congresswoman mcsally you were in fact, the first woman -- we have a picture of you here -- to command an air force squadron in combat. how will that experience in the military shape you and your work in congress? >> i spent 26 years in uniform. you know, those of us who serve we took an oath of office that is the same exact oath we're about to take on tuesday. so, i mean we're very much about serving the country. but we need more veterans at a time where the world is more
dangerous. we only have 20% veterans. that experience is going to be absolutely vital on the issues of natural security, making sure our military is strong and capable to deal with the various threats we're facing. also in the military we're very solution-oriented. we're very pragmatic. you can't be in the war you want to be in. have you to be in the war you want to be in. you have to get the job done. i think that's what the people in southern arizona were looking for from a military background. be solution-oriented to get things done instead of being idea logically focused. >> congressman zeldin, you served in iraq in 2006 and 2007. how does your time in the military shape your view of role now as a congressman? >> i learned so much about leadership. we wear around our dog tags of the seven army attributes. across the country, people are watching this show they're turned off when we have people who are elected to represent us in washington lacking those
values. lacking that core. remembering where they come from. so that certainly helped. i was in the army, you know, no knock on the air force branch the best possible branch -- >> hey come on. you want close air support you need to call in the a-10. >> that's true. 40 years ago, 50% of congress was military veterans. that's changed. it's now one in five. those returning home from afghanistan and many are running for office, fortunately, and that's a good thing for us. >> congresswoman mcsally, as we said, you served from arizona, you represent a district in tucson. obviously, immigration a big issue there. in the wake of president obama's executive order, how do you think republicans should handle the immigration issue? should it be all about tougher enforcement or should there be an effort to find some path towards legalization? >> i think we need to address the root causes and do first
things first. in my district that includes border security as a main focus. we have to secure our boreder. we have transnational criminal organizations that are trafficking drugs and people weapons and money in and out of our neighborhoods. we need intelligence-based operations and a better strategy to address this issue because it a public safety threat and a national security threat. the people i'm talking to in my district, they want to revamp and modernize the legal immigration system so that if somebody wants to come here to work or they graduate from the university of arizona with a ph.d. they don't go back to one of our competitors. we actually give them an opportunity to come here work, pay taxes, on all ends of that spectrum. my district is looking for common sense solutions to address root causes. these political maneuvering by you know, the obama administration is creation some of the hotbed issues that are really more symptoms. we need bipartisan solutions to address some of those but we have to focus on the root causes which is border security and modernizing the legal immigration system so it's responsive to our economic
needs. >> congressman zeldin, you are now the only jewish republican member in the house with eric cantor having been defeated. are you concerned by the reports that came out this past week about the house majority whip, steve scalise, that he spoke to a group founded by former klu klux klan leader david dukes. >> it was a dozen years ago. it wasn't so much about what was reported. the speech is about making the state government, where he was serving at the time, more efficient, to reduce wasteful spending. it's unfortunate so many news reports don't even mention the fact this was a dozen years ago and don't mention the fact that this was about a very specific issue, to reduce wasteful spending. i think many in the mainstream media who look for any opportunity to try to tear down republicans, to help back up the yates president of the united
states and democrats in congress. the fact of the matter is, there's been so much progress. we saw it with the election of mia love. >> mia love african-american woman in utah. >> that's right. and carlos curbella who's a hispanic. the list goes on much minority women being elected. it will continue through the 2016 elections. i think the media is trying to get a head start tearing down the republican party. >> let me ask you about that congresswoman mcsally. this doesn't come at a particularly good time the scalise controversy. do you worry it will hurt republican efforts to reach out to minorities, to show that it is a more diverse party? >> no, i don't. again, if you look at the types of people that have been elected, we still have a lot of work to do. we still have over just a little over 100 women. we don't totally reflect america in the whole congress, regardless of both parties. so, we need to make sure we're focusing on things that resident a distraction like this but getting the job done. the american people clearly
spoke they want washington to work for them. we need to be focusing on getting the job done and not side showings. >> we got about a minute left. i would like you to take 30 seconds and see how well you can play with others. as you both get sworn in this week, how optimistic are you -- because everybody talks about how unproductive congress is. how gridlocked washington is. that you'll be able to be better and be more productive. congressman zelden? >> optimistic and confident. we'll see keystone improving our foreign affairs and veteran affairs, passing budgets again. we've only had one federal budget since 2007. now where we've had this democratic-led senate and the president in the past, we have a republicans to work with and we'll put good solutions on this president's desk. >> congresswoman? >> we're still a divided government but this has been a long 1,049 days i wanted to step up and serve this way. i feel positive that we can get
things done and we have solutions to help the american people. i hope the president realizes it's time for him to get on board and lead and be a part of those solutions. i look forward, to you know, helping address the issues that are related to the economy and security, which are the things i was sent to fight for. >> congresswoman mcsally, congressman zeldin, thank you both. thanks for joining us today. please come back. >> look forward to it. >> thank you. what happens when the 114th congress convenes this week? will they get anything done or will it be as dysfunctional as ever? we bringngngngngng
mandate in obamacare. the kinds of things we know the american people don't like and would like to see us address. >> new senate majority leader mitch mcconnell laying out his agenda for the opening weeks of the republican-controlled senate. we're back now with the panel. laura, you heard mcconnell's initial plans. is he drawing the right balance between compromise and confrontation? >> interesting poll came out. i think pat cadell did yesterday or the day before. 64% of republicans think b boehner doesn't do enough to oppose obama. the media, you have to oppose obama. you have to show you can work together. i don't think it's smart for republicans to fall into that. i think they have to have a pathway for prosperity, progress. i think he ticked off a couple of good agenda items. people around the country watching today, i don't think they're obsessed with can republicans work with obama? they're obsessed with what they see as a country in decline. we have some economic progress.
that's great. the middle class is stuck. they want to feel like republicans are working for them. that means oppose the obama meaningfully, not silly issues on border immigration, on obamacare, real repeal and replace, not just in words. we want real actions. the idea you have to work for obama, yeah, when it works for the republican party and the middle class. but as an approach, i think they should get rid of the process concern and work on the policy. >> neera, how aggressive do you think president obama will be in continuing to go off on his own with these executive actions? for instance, would he dare, and the administration is not ruling it out, would he dare to close guantanamo on his own? and if he does continue on this path, does he risk the opportunity to have compromises between the republican congress and the democratic white house? >> you know, i don't know what he's going to do on guantanamo. it's been an issue we've been talking about for a long time. he has actually had that position for a long time.
got re-elected. so you know, i think the president -- >> he didn't have the position that he could do it on his own without congress. >> i think the president should work with congress on things they can work together. i don't think this election means he should ignore everything he was elected on. just a few years ago. but i think that we can find -- there should be areas where you can find meaningful -- meaningful you know where they can sit together and get some decisions done. i think the issue is here on immigration, on infrastructure there are areas where the republican party in the past has had a position very close to obama. perhaps, they could come back together on some of those issues. comprehensive immigration reform infrastructure investments, that actually -- >> part of the republican party was for comprehensive immigration reform. there's been a lot of the republican party that's against it. >> that's fair. but we did get a lot of republicans who are in the senate now vote for a bill just a few years ago. >> and it died in the house. >> yes. but now we're in an era of
bipartisan feeling, so i'm hoemg hoping the same leaders -- >> does that mean the president is go to go over to the republican side? >> we could see what we could get together. it can't just be that one side gives. republicans just ask for things and the president takes. this should be a -- takes the deal they offer. >> nothing substantial is going to happen. we all agree the country is really hurting but we all say around this table we have to fight for what we believe in. most of america doesn't want the fight. they want the progress. i guarantee you what's going to happen the best the president will get out of his agenda is through executive action. the best the republicans are going to get out of their agenda is through the courts. that shows you how dysfunctional we are as turning to the courts and executive action -- >> the big court case on obamacare that might -- >> yeah. that's the only chance republicans have of really changing obamacare is through the courts. >> wait a minute ron. you heard republicans. you heard mick mcconnell talk about tax reform giving the
president some trade authority, deal on infrastructure. you're saying none of that is going to happen? >> he's saying it. i've heard great things from the president, boehner and mcconnell. none of it really happens. words are cheap in this town. i've seen no indication that either one of these parties have the ability or will to work together and solve big problems. if i'm wrong i would love to be wrong. i would love to write that at end of the year, they solved big problems. >> am i living in an alternative universe? >> you live in new york so, yes. >> you had two members on before our panel. they were elected with a lot of goals in mind. you also have a fact a lot of divisions within the democrats. on two things mitch mcconnell said he wants to put forward keystone and on infrastructure, you could get bipartisan majorities on those. for the first time in several years, president obama will finally have to actually make decisions because harry reid has been his virtual veto pen for so many of the congresses. you think of all the bills that the house passed on jobs jobs jobs. relentless on jobs. those will come over to the senate. they will pass the senate.
and then the president will have to decide -- >> wait a minute zoom when you say they'll pass the senate you still have the question of the filibuster. is he going to get 60 votes in the senate? >> on some of those things i think they will. you also have to watch for the -- president obama has a new legislative affairs team in place to work with the congress. i think they'll start to make some decisions of, you can get things done in the last two years with a divided government. things didn't fall apart. here's the difference. when president bush lost majorities going into '07 and '08, no one in the media said, oh, well, now that democrats come to work with president bush? no, it was, can president bush go and work with the democrats? a lot is the media play. >> you're making my point. you're right. we'll have a -- >> they'll get things done. >> let's take energy reform, for example. we need a comprehensive energy policy in this country. what are we fighting over? keystone. which is not going to be the environmental catastrophe the liberals will tell you and it's not the big job producer conservatives tell you. it's a red herring. >> one of the most interesting
things happening is in defeat, obama looks like he's setting the agenda. his poll numbers are up. he has a bounce in his step. he's puffing up his chest. but he is rising in the polls as he comes off this near historic defeat across the board. >> so what should republican dos? >> they shouldn't fall into the media trap, have you to work with obama. you have to work with obama. he's going can off on his own. he's going to close guantanamo. he's going to keep proceeding at a pace. republicans have been successful and the economy has been improving with two things. gridlock and opposing better. >> gridlock in certain cases, you'll see that. >> i disagree with laura. i don't think gridlock is the solution to our problems. i'm the economy in the sense we need to get wages up for everyone. we have good economic wage numbers. president obama the in the polls because he's doing things popular. the last couple of years, we
have had stagnation in congress. >> do you believe the democrats have lost the election? and will it send a message to voters? >> i think the message is doing nothing is a failure. so doing nothing -- doing nothing over the last year was a failure for democrats, but he is rising in the polls. he's at a one or two-year high now in the polls because the president is taking action on issues important in the country. >> let me just say something to you, ron because you're the really negative person on this, although i just say, as i hear in this conversation, i'm beginning to agree with you. look at bill clinton and newt gingrich. divided government and they were able, some would say president clinton was forced to go and look at things like welfare reform. can we get that kind of agreement here? >> we should. there's plenty of incentive for it but i don't see evidence of either side being capable of it.
when the white house rolled out the obamacare website, we saw how badly things can go when the government isn't up to speed on technology. now the government is getting some help in that area straight from silicon valley. here is our power player of the week. >> you hear i.q. and eq i think of tq technical quotient. people who are talented to join other technicians here. >> megan smith is the chief technology officer anointed by president obama last fall to apply tech ideas to government programs. for instance, her team helped develop a new ebola suit easier to remove with a zipper in the back.
how different is the culture of washington from silicon valley? >> it's almost a little more academic versus corporate. there's not a ceo-type style of being in charge. >> smith comes from google-x which has developed ideas like the drone delivery systems. >> we call them moonshots, just like kennedy. we choose to go to the moon. >> she says she wants to transfer that approach to government. what is san boxin? >> it it is like it sounds. >> tech officials play with ideas like new uses for unmanned aerial vehicles. >> somewhere in our future the jets are the future but we are not there yet. we are playing with the idea of delivering critical medical devices but a uad or looking at crops from a morn devicemoving device.
we would never teach them not to write when we teach them to read. but we often teach them math science and other things without history of making and create. >> the absence of the technical skills was one of the reasons for the big president obamacare website setback. >> we had contracted a lot of technology out to other people. and weren't really having some of the architects in the core room. >> megan smith says she got an early start from man terror science fairs at her buffalo school. >> it taught me, one it is fun, and two, it taught me i could do it and give me the confidence.
>> that night we would go in and build our car and then i would go to sleep again and go to class. >> now she faces her toughest challenge. government agencies into tech start-ups. >> instead of going way out there, you start with a problem in the world solving. what is a problem that sounds like science-fiction but it just may work. >> megan smith says american women are going backwards in technology. more women got computer science degrees 30 years ago then a do today. she's determined to get more girls involved in math and science. now this program note. next week we'll have an exclusive interview with general martin dempsey. that's it for today. have a great week. and we'll see you next "fox news sunday."
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