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reflection and peaceful protest marched by violence in ferguson, missouri. an armed gunman is in critical condition and he shot at officers and returned fire. welcome to "happening now." i'm jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. protesters and report supporters scrambling. this marks one year after the fatal shooting of michael brown by a white police officer. after lengthy investigation both locally and federally, the officer in that case was not charged and cleared of any wrongdoing as shooting was determined to be self-defense. garrett tenney in chicago with the very latest with we know happened here, garrett? >> reporter: at times, jenna, looked very similar to what we saw after the shooting of michael brown. leading up to this was a day filled with extremely large, entirely peaceful protests. after the sun went down those
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crowds were a lot smaller and much different. several businesses were broken into and looted along west avenue. several were peppered sprayed and one officer was taken to the hospital after he was hit in the face by a brick. the crowd scattered when a giant gunbattle between two groups broke out near the protest. plain clothes tracking several men they believed to be among the gunmen. one of the shooters started shooting the cops. he is in critical condition. his father tells the "st. louis post dispatch," his son, 18-year-old, tyrone harris, jr. was a close friend of michael brown. one year later as you can imagine, police were hoping things would be different. >> there are too many people that worked too hard, not talking about the police department, but people worked too hard in this community to be
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undermined. >> reporter: in all five people were arrested. several investigations are ongoing. police are bracing for possibility of more trouble as several protest groups called for at day of widespread civil disobedience. jenna? jenna: story we'll continue to watch closely, garrett. thank you very much. jon? jon: overseas to a violent attack on the u.s. consulate in turkey. two suspects opening fire, sparking a gunfight with police before they ran off. just hours after a bomb attack at a police station in istanbul. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot following all breaking developments live from london. greg? >> reporter: jon, there was violence in turkey overnight. the u.s. was a target. luckily no americans were hurt. it happened early this morning in front. u.s. consulate in istanbul, turkey. gunmen opened fire in and around the building. there was ensuing shoot crowd with police. a woman was injured and arrested. another one got away. our contact in turkey is
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confirming reports that it is believed these guys are linked to a small but dangerous far left, ant at this american terror -- anti-american terror group in the turkey. they were responsible for other anti-american attacks. a police station in istanbul was hit by suicide bomber leaving three dead including a police officer. in southeastern turkey others were killed. this is believed to be tied to the militant pkk kurdish group. the turkish government in the past few weeks and months stepped up an offensive against that group along with finally cooperating with the u.s. and it is war on the isis terror group. now while we are told on the ground, jon, that the violence is not necessarily linked, we have to note over the weekend there were six, f-16 u.s. fighter jets from italy deployed to the incirlik nato base in southeast turkey. plus 300 airmen, troops, support
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equipment. the u.s. long wanted permission to use that base against the isis strongholds in northern syria. some of those, just about the 125 miles away. now the u.s. military officials are the no telling us exactly when the strikes will begin, if not in the coming days, certainly next couple of weeks. they have been expressing, as others have, their concern that turkey might just be using this cooperation with the u.s. on isis to strike out at various kurdish groups and some, have been helpful to the united states. washington apparently wanted the use of that incirlik base so bad i also, might have been willing to go along with the other stuff but you can see, not easy, not clear. pretty complicated. back to you. jon: what a mess. greg palkot live from london. thank you, greg. jenna: new reaction here at home as another illegal immigrant is charged with a brutal crime in california. the suspect released from jail just days before police say he broke into a woman's home in santa barbara county where he is
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accused of raping, torturing and killing the 64-year-old woman who was an air force veteran. he is facing a hearing later this week. we'll pick up the story from there. william la jeunesse, following it from los angeles. william, what is happening now? >> reporter: jenna, this murder is no the result of a mistake or loophole. it is cut and dried example what happens when state politicians and federal officials choose not to enforce immigration law. police arrested victoria mir recent six times in the last 15 months. police knew he was here illegally but refused to help deport him. the feds knew he was in jail and chose not to deport him basrah mir recent was not considered, a quote, enforcement priority. even though two weeks prior to the pharis arrested him on second felony, concealing a weapon and possessing drugs. but the dea pled the felony down to misdemeanor and police released him because california doesn't consider possessing methaphetamine a crime. >> this is national issue.
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i think it starts in washington, d.c. with this administration that we see and their policies. i think you can draw a direct line to sacramento with policies i will say this governor and the legislature. we've seen ab-109 passed. we've seen prop 47 pass. i am not remiss to say from washington, d.c. to sacramento there is blood trail into the bedroom of marilyn farris. >> reporter: pharis tracked satellites. he tortured raped her and peter to death with a claw hammer. they say he made a living victimizing american citizens. not unlike kate stein lie's killer who was a repeat multiple drug offender. police did not send him home. those policies are designed to protect illegal immigrants. under california law, police are prohibited from cooperating with the feds on immigration. while the feds, per the
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president, can not deport illegal immigrants unless they're convicted of a felony or three serious misdemeanors. otherwise they are free to stay in the united states. if you watch, the dhs secretary, jeh johnson two weeks ago on capitol hill, jenna, i know you know the administration has no intention of changing its current policy. back to you. jenna: we'll talk a lot more about this, william. thank you very much. certainly a developing story. our legal panel will delve further into this case. we know you have a lot of questions about it and so do we. where does the pursuit of justice lie, with the state or federal government? how do you find justice in this case? we'll take that up a little later on in the program. jon? ♪ jon: talk a little politics now. apparent new strategy for democratic frontrunner hillary clinton. after months of taking a cautious approach and seeing her poll numbers slip, clinton is getting more aggressive now. she is going after her republican rivals. joining us now, bret baier, the
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anchor of "special report." i'm sure you have seen it. she has gone after jeb bush by name. she has also gone after scott walker, donald trump, rick perry. what's going on, bret? >> well, jon, she is coming out with a little more pointed elbows to try to differentiate herself from the republican field. arguably, that field has gotten a lot of the spotlight over the past week. i think that effort by hillary clinton to buy a couple million dollars worth of ads in early states in new hampshire and iowa may be directly tied to concerns about polls and her favorability numbers going down over the past couple of months. other backdrop here, being, jon, is that her main opponent on the democratic side so far, bernie sanders, is still getting 10,000, 15,000 people at events as he closes the gap in polls in new hampshire. jon: but those ads that you mentioned, you know, they're kind of gazi, feel-good, warm
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and fuzzy ads. they talk about how she is a fighter for families but they don't take on her republican challengers or her democratic challengers. can she cast herself, you know, as a battler when she is running that kind of advertising? >> well i think the advertising is just to try to shore up the numbers of favorability and to try to turn that, what has been an erosion around. clearly the email investigation has affected hillary clinton. and some of the trustworthy numbers overall deal directly with that. i think that, as far as the fighter part, she is out talking to reporters almost every day about some specific republican saying how she is different. i think the clinton campaign invited reporters who covered her campaign to the clinton headquarters to watch the republican debate. and we're doing a play-by-play as that was happening. jon: you have to wonder, if
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you're inside the clinton campaign are you more worried right now about her likely republican opponent or maybe some of the democratic field? according to the most recent fox news polls on the 2016 democratic nominee preference among democratic voters hillary clinton's support, there you see it, bret, it has slipped from mid-july when she was 59%. as of last week she was at 51%. still pretty comfortably in the lead over bernie sanders. he is coming up and she is going down. that is on national basis. she is almost 30 points up there still nationally. but as you look at polls in new hampshire, that is more troubling for hillary clinton. as bernie sanders is down to single digits. if you look at the margin of error that is almost, essentially a tie. i think what's also interesting is vice president biden and his decision that will come likely in september of whether he is in this race or isn't in this race. that will be a big shake up if
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he is in the race for democratic primary run. jon: i read about party insiders, you probably hear from them in washington, d.c., complaining her approach, her campaign approach thus far has been too cautious. that she is, doesn't want to ruffle any feathers. doesn't want to rock any boats. this may be an attempt to try to break out of that mold? >> definitely. come out swinging. remember she was criticized from sanders and others about not taking a position on trade. about not taking a position on keystone xl pipeline. about kind of avoiding reporters for quite some time on the trail. around the email situation. so, there has been this aura of cautiousness around the clinton campaign. and i think, you may see that change in order for them to see the poll numbers change, that they're i think concerned about. jon: we can expect more criticism much her rivals but not necessarily announcement on her position on keystone pipeline? >> doubtful. jon: yeah. that makes sense of the all
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right, bret baier, good to talk to you. have a good week. >> see you, jon. jenna: south korea's government furious after two soldiers are seriously injured when they stopped on landmines in the demilitarized zone, dmz as we often call it. who the country is blaming. this "washington post" reporter jailed in iran more than a year on charges including espionage, his fate could soon be decided. we'll talk about it with a journalisted reporting from iran more than a decade. then there is this. >> black lives matter! jenna: protesters interrupt democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders during a massive rally in seattle. this is not the first time. this is one of many outbursts to come for the vermont senator. >> i would like to welcome you to this place, called seattle, which is occupied -- land. hypocritely-named after.
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jon: south korea vows north korea will face searing consequences for a violent mine explosion along the 2.5-mile-wide demilitarized zone. two south korean sergeants triggered mines, causing one soldiers to lose both legs. another one lose one leg as he tried to help the other man get to safety. south korea says investigations revealed the mines were planted by north korean soldiers to target troops from the south. jenna: fox -- critical moment in time for an american on trial and imprisoned in iran. today marking the final closed court hearing for "washington post" reporter jason rezaian. he faces up to 20 years if convicted of espionage charges against him. a verdict is expected in coming days. we've heard different things about the timeline. we have the bureau chief for the "new york times," one of the few western journalists still working in tehran. tom, nice to join us begin.
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we've heard different reports. how confident are you that we get a verdict or conclusion to this case over next week? >> i'm not 100% convinced even though mr. rezaian's lawyer telling journalists this has been the final hearing but the same time the press agency fill eighted to the judiciary actually said it is up to the judge, this famous hard-line judge currently trying mr. rezaian, to decide whether he will need another hearing or that this is it. if this is it, we can expect a ruling within a week. jenna: this judge is described as a hard-liner. what does that mean? for us looking from outside in, hard-liner can mean anything to us as far as judges in iran. how did he get the reputation if what does it mean for this case. >> this judge basically put several political activists on
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trial. iran is not a country at least a lot of political activists in recent decades have gone on trial but he sent twa protesters to death in 2009. he is closely affiliated, people say to the revolutionary guards. now he is an independent judge, part of iran's judiciary and, therefore, he has under iranian law a lot of power to make decisions. and this decision could be to give mr. rezaian the maximum sentence of 20 years. but at the same time he could also be, he could also be freed after a week. it is really very unclear what they will decide. i think we also have to take a look what's happening in congress to also see what will happen to mr. rezaian's case. jenna: that is interesting. why do you think that matters here? how relevant do you think american politics figures into whatever happens to jason? >> we should see this in the larger perspective of the nuclear agreement which the iranian leadership has sort of
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signed off on. but at the same time people here and other countries are waitings for decision of the u.s. congress to see whether they support this deal or not and it is not uncommon for iranian leaders to sort of use certain cards in this political game and it might as well be that mr. rezaian has been in prison for over a year, continues to be such a card. if there is no nuclear deal, yeah he might not be released. jenna: certainly raises the stakes for this one individual. we know there are other americans as well jailed in iran. there has been four secret hearings, secret being the word of emphasis, thomas, i'm curious if you heard anything what transpired in the court and what direction it is going? >> it is really absolutely unclear what has happened inside of the court. mr. rezaian's wife, an iranian national, who is also a suspect in this case was not allowed to enter the courtroom nor was
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mr. rezaian's american mother, mary rezaian. and, so, besides from what the lawyer says who is not that interested in speaking to the media, we don't know what happened other than mr. rezaian, according to the judiciary today, had his final defense session. jenna: okay. so here we are, we're in the waiting game right now. is it possible as well, thomas, that jason could be found guilty of a crime but still released? >> it is possible. it depends on the sentence he will get. he has of course spent more than a year in prison. under iran's legal system he can be released on bail. he can be allowed to have his sentence, while under sort of a house arrest, which would mean that he would stay at home. and it could also be that he is pardoned maybe by possibly higher authority than the judge just mentioned. so, everything is possible. and again, i think it has a lot
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to do with the, you know, the relations or lack of relations between iran and the u.s. jenna: quickly, thomas, will we get a head's up or that we'll find out whether there is verdict or not? >> legally there must be something within a week or announcement after new trial date. that will be the heads up. jenna: we'll see what happens. jason i know is also a friend. we appreciate your ink sight as always. thomas, we appreciate it. jon: possible conviction after crime for practicing journalism, unbelievable. jenna: exactly. jon: search for two boys lost at sea. what the family of the two florida teenagers just announced. major environmental catastrophe in colorado. we'll tell you what caused it. >> we came out here together. we looked at river and we cried. my first concern is the next generation's, and what they're walking into.
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jon: officials in colorado are scrambling to contain the accidental release bit epa of millions of gallons of toxic wastewater. now it is quickly spreading. alicia acuna is live with the latest from denver. alicia? >> reporter: hi, jon. yes, this mess came from what the environmental protection agency is calling an accidental breach of a debris dam at the gold king mine near durango, colorado. workers were working on cleaning up the mine when it happened and according to the epa, since that blowout, an estimated three million gallons of contaminated water has been released into the animas river. now that mustard-yellow pollution continues to flow at rate of 500 gallons per minute, so far impacting this state and neighboring new mexico.
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new mexico governor susana martinez flew over the area and promised she would do everything she could to hold the federal government accountable. >> i can't even describe it. like when i flew over the fires. and, you see something that your mind isn't ready or adjusted to see. >> reporter: take a look at this map. you can see now the animas river flows through colorado there and into waterways in new mexico, water that ends up in the colorado river which supplies millions of people in the west. >> would allow our major metal ton -- metropolitan areas in the u.s. to grow, los angeles, they rely on water that originates in our state. interconnectedness is highlighted in a tragedy like this. >> reporter: the epa says high levels of metal contaminants make up the color are cadmium,
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copper, mange ga. >> and zinc. the counts where this originated declared state of emergency. they have enough clean water supply for customers but asking residents to police conserve. jon? jon: this came from the environmental protection agency, right? >> yes. they say they're the ones responsible. they say this was an accident, they're trying to clean up one of many mines in this whole area of country. there were a lost mines that were established by some people just personally before the 1970s, when regulation came along and people could start digging. the water gets in there and fills up. now we have this huge problem. jon: fascinating what they fine themselves for this behavior. alicia acuna. thanks. >> good point. jenna: families are announcing the end to the long search for two missing teenagers at sea. relatives for perry cohen and
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austan stefan noise say they have two new clues to guide them. they never came home. they will start a foundation to promote youth boating education to honor the two young men. jon: so tough for the families. latest target in ha wave of deadly bombing in afghanistan. suicide bomber takes the lives of four people. where the attack happened and why it could have even been worse. also protesters interrupt democratic presidential hopeful bernie sanders during a rally in seattle. the vermont senator is firing back. what he is saying and what it means for his campaign. >> welcome to seattle. where the seattle police department has been under federal -- for past three years and riddled by use of force, racial profiling and scandals throughout the year.
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deadly bombing in afghanistan. at least four people were killed in the near the entrance of kabul's international airport. more than a dozen others hurt. latest incident in a recent wave of violence. an american soldier was killed, another injured in an attack on u.s. special forces base on kabul friday. this all goes together. conor powell in jerusalem with more on this. >> reporter: the taliban launched this wave of attacks across afghanistan in recent days. comes after the announcement the long time taliban spiritual leader mullah omar is in fact dead. the death two years ago and cover-up internally by the taliban created some internal divisions among that insurgent group and these attacks appear to be a response to that announcement of his death by taliban hard-liners who are trying to spoil peace talks with the afghan government that were making some progress and they were lead by the new leader of the taliban. in today's attack the taliban claimed they were targeting
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foreigners going in and out of afghanistan's kabul airport. five people were killed including a young afghan woman and a child. 16 people were injured. afghan's pro-american president went on live tv to give a speech about deteriorating security situation which killed more than 50 people in recent days. pointed a finger directly at neighboring pakistan for its backing and support of taliban. u.s. has been battling the taliban in afghanistan while trying to convince pakistan to end support for the militant group. despite billions of dollars in aid, jenna, the pakistanis continue to support the taliban despite money and support by the united states and this relationship and what we've seen here in recent days that the taliban continue to go back and forth attacking targets in kabul, while at the same time continue to have sanctuary in pakistan, jenna. jenna: a story weil continue to
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watch. conor, thank you. jon: senator bernie sanders first event when he arrived in seattle came to screeching halt when this happened. >> we're trying to be reasonable. we're trying to be reasonable. >> we are reasonable. jon: senator sanders was supposed to headline a rally celebrating the 80th anniversary of social security but the black lives matter protesters would not leave. taking over the microphone and forcing organizers to shut down his event. sanders addressed interruption saying quote, i'm disappointed two people disrupted a rally attended by thousands which i was invited to speak about fighting to protect social security and medicare. i was especially disappointed because on criminal justice reform and need to fight racism, there is no other candidate for president who will fight harder than me. talk about with our media panel today. lynn sweet, washington bureau chief and columnist for "the chicago sun-times.." tammy bruce is radio talk show
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host, fox news contributor. welcome to both of you. >> hi, there. jon: we're talking about it with the media panel, lynn. strikes me that the black lives matter campaign has had quite a bit of coverage. not like these two women needed their to take over the microphone and disrupt a presidential candidate's rally in order to get their point across. am i right? >> well, jon, not really. jon: okay. >> because, as we know from donald trump, there is no end to the amount of publicity you may want to get for yourself. so they had a great platform. somebody else's crowd. they were able to borrow it. and, keep on, keep the black lives matter national conversation going. though i'm not sure how productive it was, since they went and hijacked the rally of somebody who is very sympathetic to their cause. jon: that's the point also, tammy. i mean bernie sanders is probably the most liberal candidate in the race, probably
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one who would most align with their cause. >> yeah. it is very interesting, really seattle, and bernie sanders, it tells you the obsession or the need for attention, to lynn's point. that is part of it. at same time, this is about national attention. and the coverage that it gets beyond seattle. but it was just two people. one of my main concerns, how did two people like that, for, so close to a sitting senator, a presidential candidate. it also does not bode well for hillary clinton. her security, i hope he, you know, beefs up his security. her security will probably be better. this will also probably be targeted at hillary. i think what you're looking at is hoping to see a generalized radicalization or an impression through the national media, that there is racial divisions. these women that did this, there was only two of them, coming under fire by the left. seems as though dr. frankenstein doesn't like monster it created.
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the left will have to deal with this kind of thing as we found out even with ferguson, right after that, people were complaining that they weren't being paid. that these are paid organized operatives. i don't know about the two women in seattle. very unique dynamic that is classic to political campaigns. jon: it is somewhat -- go ahead, lynn. >> may i just, tammy, if i may say, there is no analogy to the security situation of a former first lady who gets secret service protection and senators do not get, as a rule traveling protection. just so our viewers know that. >> he needs to clear, that needs to be addressed because he is clearly in public. >> i want to clear it up because you made it looks like it was even security situation and it is not. jon: just as you're not allowed fire in a crowded theater, i mean, you know, so many people complain today that candidates are unresponsive and distant and not, not within the reach of the average american, when a couple
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of chuckle heads pull off a stunt, it drives people like bernie sanders, farther and farther away from mainstream america. >> i don't know that. he drew a big crowd in seattle and portland. he is in oakland, california today. i say don't overthink this incident. it never is for any group to take over somebody else's platform, no matter what your politics are but in the course of his campaign it is doing well. it is taking in tons of money in small dollar donations. he is running on income inequality platform which addresses some of the needs of racial disparities. to think this is not a major, a major, even -- >> to jon's point about average americans that is not oakland. it is not even seattle. and this again is national coverage. it feeds into the barack obama campaign desire to have there be appearance of generalized racial
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division when there isn't. but they feed on that. bernie sanders is definitely appealing to a very specific subsection, fringe of the democrat party. certainly not to minutes as a whole. >> that has nothing really to do with the main topic of talking about why people disrupted his rally. >> for the national coverage. to give it a national coverage. >> this is it. let's not make it more complicated. >> this is false framework. if national intention gives it impression it is national issue when bernie sanders is marginalized local candidate that appeals to oakland that is media issue. that is false front. >> except he is getting attention. >> attention, attention. >> so i would just think, we don't know how his story ends but it is not fair to make it seem like he just gets attention in a few cities. that is not right, tammy. jon: protesters got their attention as well, in a most unorthodox way. lynn sweet, tammy bruce. thank you. >> thank you. jenna: wisconsin judge set to decide if two teenaged girls
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week in the case of another illegal immigrant charged with murder in california. the suspect accused of torturing, raping and murdering a 64-year-old woman after he broke into her santa barbara county home. the suspect was no stranger to law enforcement, racking up six arrests in little more than a year. though police knew he was here illegally, he was never deported because under state law police couldn't cooperate with the federal -- government. but the feds also never took the necessary steps to have him deported. >> i believe there is a blood trail from washington, d.c., from sacramento into the bedroom of marilyn. we see time after time this administration throws buckets of nails in front of ice. jenna: former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney and also heather hansen, trial attorney as well. there is the police chief who has been very outspoken. a different tone than what we saw in san francisco in kate steinle's murder. heather is right, does the blood trail lead from washington, d.c.
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into this woman's bedroom? >> and back again. the reality, both state and federal governments have a role to play this problem. the federal government instead of ordering an order or warrant for this man to have been detained they entered simply a detainer and that is not enough under a lot of state laws, particularly california. california doesn't have to follow a detainer, and then the feds can't force california to do anything under their law. so either the federal law has to change or the state law has to change. jenna: what about common sense, jonna? this guy has pattern of breaking the law. he is here illegally. as lee call law enforcement why can't you just keep him? >> to oversimplify this, seems to be too many cooks in the kitchen. feds are pointing finger at the state, the state pointing finger at the feds and here is where we can begin to solve the problem. stop plea bargaining with people here illegally, when they are
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charged and arrested for felony, not plead down to misdemeanor where they easily slip under the radar. that is problem number one. jenna: let me tell viewers, this happened months ago, actually last year. he charged with to commit sexual assault. attack ad woman. he was high on drugs which the judge took into consideration. that is why they decided. that is not only reason why they decided to make it a misdemeanor, not a fellly any. without a felony he doesn't have to get deported. >> in california they have something called the trust act. they can only hold someone to i.c.e. to take them if serious conviction or charge. as jonna said because it was pled down to felony or misdemeanor it is no longer -- jenna: what about being here illegally, jonna? if you come across the border illegally are you instantly a criminal? >> there in lies the rub, if you cross the border illegally you committed a crime. if you harbor somebody who crossed border illegally you committed a crime. if you overstay your legal visa,
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for example and just kind of hanging out not here lawfully, only penalty you are subject to are civil penalties. >> so you're really not a criminal. >> not at that point. jenna: viewers are asking about using term illegal immigrant versus undocumented worker. there is some sort of gray area whether or not if you're illegally here. >> it is not a criminal violation. it's a civil violation. jenna: how could that be? >> it's a big problem, right? the reason that you can't automatically deport anyone that you catch who is here illegally is in part because the crime that they have committed is not a serious crime. jenna: that doesn't make any sense, jonna, in many way. >> i know. jenna: thinking about that logically. as an american citizen trespass, private property, federal property, if i showed up at white house and i was attempting to assault someone like this individual was attempting to assault this woman previous to this crime i could easily be charged with a felony? >> of course. and that's why the criminal justice system should not be one size fits all however.
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you're a fights citizen. there are -- united states citizen. nobody has a right to a plea bargain. we shouldn't be doing it with people who have the added bonus of not being here legally. jenna: what now? because we see this sort of tension between the federal government and local government when it comes to border security. because the federal government is supposed to secure the border. state will get involved if they feel the federal government is not doing it. heather, who takes the lead and how is justice found? >> it is supposed to be the federal government who takes the in 1996, a law was passed that local post -- governments have to give information if someone is here illegally. that is not happening. states like california passed extensive immigration reform. last year this, law, this trust act affected this case, passed and became effect in
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january 2014. feds have to take control. put out warrants and orders they will be relied upon. they will be used and this will not happen again. jenna: i have to run. we asked the question in the kate steinle's case as well, can the victim's family, go after state, federal, local government to get the ball moving that heather says needs to be moved? >> probably not. they will not be able to sue or get any damages from the state for wrongful death of these victims. will it start a march on washington so the laws can change, feds will be in charge, somebody could be in charge and heather says needs to be fed before somebody else dies at the hands of somebody who shouldn't be here anyway. jenna: this woman serve 40 years for her country, this is what happened to her. a horrendous crime. >> it is. jenna: heather, jonna, certainly not last time we talk about it. jon? jon: you know about the high cost of living but in one state people are starting to complain about the high cost of dying. where it is costing more to rest in peace and why that could leave you rolling over in your
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jon: let's take a look what's ahead on "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. sandra, harris, what do you have? >> hey, jon, always good to see you. a day of disobedience is planned in ferguson, missouri. what will that look like? gunfire ended peaceful protesting of michael brown's death one year ago. are officers being forced to pull back? >> another democrat says he will oppose the iran nuke deal, president obama warns u.s. credibility is on the line. is he right? >> a major retailer is rye moving all the gender label. no more girls and boy's department there. gender neutral. too much pc for you? >> we'll discuss, plus our
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#oneluckyguy. "outnumbered" at top of the hour. jon: can't wait. thank you both. well, connecticut is now the most expensive place to die in the u.s. because of hefty new fees for settling estates. probate officials warn invoices going out soon could top $100,000. laura engle has the expensive details. laura? >> reporter: hi, jon. most people worry about the cost of living but in connecticut some people are worried about the cost of dying. residents with two million dollars or more in their estates who planned on leaving assets to loved ones, will be passing on something else, a larger probate bill to settle their estate. state budget went into july 1st, completely cutting probate fees funding. it could top 100,000, even a million dollars, when the maximum fee used to be $12,500.
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opponents say the new fees are unfair, drive very people who have money to fund the system somewhere else. >> i feel that the more people that are moving their assets out of the state of connecticut because you want to pass on the things that you have earned throughout your lifetime to next generation, next children. >> reporter: governor dannel malloy's office, set this statement n a tough budget year difficult decisions have to be made. in connecticut, average 100,000 case as year move through the probate system, adoption, mental health and disability cases. probate administrator and state lawyer says the new fee structure sun sustainable solution for a budget shortfall. >> to leave kind of funding up to let's wait and see who die this is year, how much money we have, we'll know what our budget is, i don't know how you run responsibly a court system that provides for all of those important things. >> reporter: one more catch. fees are also retroactive for anyone who died as of
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