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idaho. but hilly clinton took the grand canyon state, arizona, and here is what he had to say late on tuesday. >> i want you to think about the next president, whoever it is, walking into the white house. i do believe i am the most ready of everybody running to take that job. >> and we need a commander-in-chief who can provide leadership that is strong, smart and above all, steady. >> one thing we saw in both the republican and the democratic races are long lines. some folks had to wait a couple of hours. a lot of excitement and enthusiasm and jackie ibanez joins us from the newsroom with a look at what was behind some of the surprising voter turnout. hi, jackie. >> hi, good morning, eric. it was a long day of voting indeed for folks in utah and arizona. imagine waiting hours to cast a ballot. voters expressed frustration saying these lines could have been avoided. the democratic party's website crashed an hour before the start of the party's
caucuses. the site includes information such as the addresses for the 90 democratic caucus locations in the state. the website also indicating who is eligible to vote and what documents are needed to do so. that problem was eventually fixed with the website. in arizona now, look at this. lines were several blocks long there. some people were even waiting up to three hours to vote. in fact the turnout was so great that one polling place ran out of ballots. we are told the lines are the result of maricopa county cutting back the number of polling sites to save some cash. the county had 200 polling places in the 2012 election and just 60 this year. that's quite a cut. the county sought the popularity of mail in ballots and the fact they can't vote in primaries would require fewer polling places. turns out that only lead to a lot of confusion for voters. >> there are a lot of independents in line and they got up to the front after two
hours. >> how long were you in line? >> two hours. >> what do you think about what is going with the line? >> i think they need to do this in the neighborhood where people live. by cutting down the polling places it is really making for catastrophe. >> that's not the case for people in arizona. people were waiting two to three hours in the hot sun and up to 80 degrees. a pretty warm day there to go out and vote and wait in line. they did it. heather, back to you. >> so here is the current gop delegate count because it is all about the numbers. trump has 739 and cruz has 425. kasich has 143. 1,237 are needed to win. on the democratic side clinton has 1,681. sanders has 925. 2,383 is needed to win on the
democratic side. breaking down tonight's results with us is our panel of fox news contributors joining us. ellen ratney, the chief of talk news and the correspondent for the conservative review and the executive vice president of jamestown associates. it is ultimately all about the numbers. looking at how it broke down this evening so far, is it still doable for donald trump? is it still doable for bernie sanders? >> it is doable for trump because of the number of delegates he does have. there is still time on the clock for him to gain more. there could be time for him. with sanders i kind of say the same thing. he is so far behind hillary clinton that there is a chance he may not go all the way. >> not if you take away the super delegates that can still go either way.
they committed to hillary clinton, but if he comes in with more of the delegates there is more pressure. they said they have to go with who has the most delegates. if they do that they are much more neck and neck. >> what if donald trump gets close to 1237, but not quite 1237? >> that's a good point, heather. there is an idea that a brokered convention will be rigged against donald trump. i don't think that's the case especially if he comes within this 50 to 100-vote margin just shy of gaining the 1237. i think he can broker the deal and don't forget what is happening right now. you are having the cruz and trump camps going after the delegates that marco rubio got. it is the very few the others had gotten because they are trying to do the delegate math. the mathematical roadway for trump is there. the map is there. you are talking wisconsin in
two weeks and new york on april 19th. april 26th where trump can perform extremely well. i will be very specific. if john kasich does not allow ted cruz the opportunity to become the anti-trump, the non-trump choice it makes it easier for trump to win. a lot of these winner take all or winner take most contests, 70% -- >> because you think kasich is pulling voters away from ted cruz. >> he is pulling them away from donald trump. this idea that people are going to vote for ted cruz just because they love ted cruz is not the case if kasich is out of the race. they will vote for kasich because he is the non-trump. you are seeing consistently enough non-trump voting behaviors if it was just cruz and trump. trump has a legitimate case that he can gain the most. >> but not enough to gain the nomination.
>> not mathematically, but heather brings up the point it is not just depriving him by 1237, it is how much. if he comes within 100 votes they will say it worth essentially civil war to pry this away? >> depends which republicans you talk to. >> i think you will find there is uh of reluctance -- a lot of reluck tepees to do that. >> if donald trump is a hundred or a couple hundred away how can they deny him the nomination even if he mathematically he is almost there. you are taking the ball away like lucy did to charlie brown all the time. >> it is the rules of 1237. if he doesn't have that number going into the convention it will be a contested convention. that's with any situation and you can't change the rules in the middle of the game. he needs to push forward and he need to probably spend more money and probably deliver more on his message points in
terms of what he would plan to do if he is the nominee and if he is the president. >> how about rubio? what does he do and how does he become a power broker potentially in this scenario? >> i don't see he has a way forward. he has a lot of people in the republican party who like him very much, but i don't see he has anyway forward or any influence. >> he has his delegates. >> how does he broker them? >> that's a great question. maybe he wants the vp slot and he could give his delegates to cruz for example. that's one of the thoughts that is out there. we have to see what happens. he has been silent since he dropped out of the race. >> he denied he wants any future political office including being anyone's vice president. a brokered convention produces interesting outcomes. there has t be a clear delineation, but this whole idea of the 1237 is a simple
majority plus one. that's not exactly a controversial threshold. the conversation is how close does trump get? if he is at the one yard line he is going to be able to potentially broker it to his favor. if not and if ted cruz deprives him of a significant number of delegates, and maybe even below a thousand it is totally fair game to have the nominee ultimately pick through the broker process. >> do you think that is likely to happen based on either the states that are left or based on the performance so far. >> very good point. i just have a hard time believing you are going to be able to stop donald trump if you have two people in the race taking votes from the nontrump side. i don't see how the math benefits anybody but trump. >> well you are all political insiders. what's going on behind the scenes at this point to talk to kasich or to talk to cruz
and have them come together? >> i believe right now cruz is trying to speak with rubio in terms of trying to get his support. what cruz would need is the backing of the establishment camp since they are not going to be behind rubio. he would need that backing and need their money and need their support. we'll see if that happens. they are not going to back donald trump. >> senator cruz is is not somebody who gets along terribly well with people in washington, d.c. i think you have to take that into account when you say will he put up with rubio and what will happen with imorcher kasich -- with governor kasich. that's the issue. >> if he is the nominee and the president the constituents would basically propel him to do so in order to govern and in order to get things done. that's why he is so popular because he ruffled feathers in
congress trying to remove the conservative and constitutional agenda forward. >> i am of the optimistic perspective and i think the republican party is growing and re-aligning larnlly -- largely to be a much more conservative populous party. we are having growing pains. that's obvious. i would like to see more effort made regardless of who the nominee is and more of a commitment to be made like ted cruz and done -- donald trump. who ever emerges, i think it could be a historic moment where the republican party is a majority party again. we have been out of power for eight years. >> that's where politics are so wild and crazy. thing they tiff things that have -- the negative things that have happened in this campaign, to have everyone come together in the end and make the party stronger would be something to say for sure. >> and of course because of
what happened in brussels, that is in a way overwelming issue in this campaign. donald trump has relied on the issue of terrorism from the beginning. ted cruz we have seen take up that issue just recently and of course with these terrorist attacks in brussels, authorities are now hoping to determine who exactly carried out the attacks and who else may have been involved. here is insight from washington. >> reporter: a counterterrorism source tells fox news the highest priority is to identify the suicide bombers. once known their names will be checked against terror watch lists to determine if either has been to or contacts inside the united states. a former senior intelligence official said the operation using conventional explosives and suicide belts could not be done on the fly. >> these parts look fairly sophisticated. they are not things cooked up over the weekend. it is based upon how they were done and the weaponry that was used and the fact that it was
multiple locations tells me a lot of work had gone into this. >> there is a working theory that the plot was in the pipeline connected to the paris attackers and in friday's arrest they moved up the time line to account -- to act. late today while attending an exhibition baseball game he told espn there is no justification for terrorism. >> this is one more example of why the whole world has to unite against these terrorists. the notion that any political agenda would justify the killing of innocent people like this is something beyond the pale. >> two law enforcement officials and a bomb technician noted that those in black had a single black carts. it was a possible detonation method known as a dead man's switch. >> some type of experience is needed for the implementation
and the bringing of the bomb to the airport and detonating it at the right time. it could be hard wired. two of the possible assailants had gloves on and that could be to conceal a dead man detonator meaning when they got shot and their hand released it went off. >> security increased at dulles international and suburban washington, d.c. and bomb-sniffing dogs. similar steps were taken across the country. >> an up -- an intelligence source says there were two explosions at the airport. one in aisle three and the other in aisle 11. they will look at the highest concentration of passengers rather than a specific airline. in washington, fox news. and straight ahead we will have more on the search going on for the clues trying to solve this latest terrorist attack. >> going door-to-door as we speak. coming up, retired navy captain and analyst captain chuck nash joins us. show me movies with explosions.
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benjamin? >> good morning. three days of mourning announced by the belgium government for those 34 people killed and 200 wounded as a massive manhunt gets underway for the suspect who is still at large. the photos you are seeing on your screen are of the three suspects. we are just hearing that two of them appear to be brother. they were known to the pice for criminal acts previously. such was the case for the salam brothers in paris. the man in the white however is suspected of being the third attacker and he is still at large. one of the bombs blew up near the american airlines check in desk. after the horrific scene cleared and people scrambled to escape another suicide vest was found undetonated at the airport beginning the search for the third person in brussels. a taxi dropped off the three men at the airport and he picked them up from an area of brussels where the search is now underway. so far one apartment has been the main focus for police, and
according to sources chemicals were found there as well as a device including nails and isis flag. isis claimed responsibility. the question now is how many more networks are there? in the heart of the city an hour after the airport bomb another blast ripped through a subway station. people scrambled to escape as smoke poured out behind them. the identity of the attacker is unknown and 20 people died in the attack. the attack took place in the heart of brussels near the european parliament and just across the road from the u.s. embassy. again we are just hearing these brothers seem to have been the suicide attackers in the airport. their names we are waiting for, but they were known to police previously. brussels coming down to the heart of this. more people per cap tau have left to fight in isis and syria. back to you. >> up to 6,000 across europe have reportedly left to go
train in syria. benjamin hall, thank you. >> so what went wrong and how do authorities uncover the radical islamic terrorist networks that threaten us? the retired navy captain analyst chuck nash joins us. brothers known by police and we have heard this before. authorities know about these radicalized young men and how can we stop these types of atrocities? >> i think one of the biggest problems and when you look at europe you can put them in the land mass and there are 15 million east of the mississippi. they are in the isolated pockets and the ghettos if you will. it is in areas and it is
totally isolated areas within the society. people who are being radicalized and it is not the syrian refugees of the that's the real threat that people are looking at as the most current threat. those radicals are falling into and being welcomed into communities that are disuh of coursed it. it -- disaffected and it goes back a generation to world war ii when they needed cheap labor. in germany they brought in the turks and the moroccans came to spain and pakistanis came to england. 1k3 they were never really accepted. they never truly integrated into the society. so the parents or grandparents of the current young radicals accepted their role in society.
now this generation is never -- has never been accepted by the countries. it is a hotbed of resentment. those neighborhoods in france, there are a thousand areas, where the police and fire and other first responders are hesitant to go and in sweden, the government publishes a list of cities and places in cities where they call them no go areas. the swedish government publishes them on a website. >> that caused a lot of controversy before, the authorities denying there are no go areas, but we have police on tape in paris saying we just don't go there. we don't really go there. weave that on tape in the past from the police authorities. let me though give you breaking news that the belgian broadcasters identified two of the attackers as brothers. they released the names.
khalid and briham. we will find out more about them and where they are from and how they grew up and that's what is so astounding. you are getting this breed of homegrown radicalized terrorists who are french citizens or belgian citizens and lived there in part of the country, but they are not part of the society. how do you change that? is that even possible to assimilate them? >> at this point the issue is that europe -- when we think of europe it is a misnomer. we should be still thinking of the states of germany, italy, france, belgium and instead what has happened is what we will call a unified threat which is disaffected muslims who have been radicalized within a former state society where they have dropped all of
the border controls. so now there is free movement. it is no more difficult than driving from st. louis to new york city as it is to drive from berlin to brussels. >> do you think that will change? there are a variety of countries we just saw. he just drove from paris right right -- he got stopped and then went through to the belgian. and then we have the visa program of the there are questions about the cop tense of the -- cop tense of the -- competence of the belgian authorities. should we change the visa waiver program here so they don't -- as some of these terrorists don't come here? >> yeah, that's a great point. i think it is starting to get within our domestic political discussion. it is starting to come up. who are we allowing into this country? the current had -- administration says they want to bring this 10,000 syrian
refugees next year. we typically bring in 2500. the statement is, well, they are well vetted. we vet them and it takes a year to 18 months. all of a sudden we are going to multiply what we normally do in 18 months by a factor of four and do it in a year or less. now is not the time to relax those standards. now is the time to pay attention to what is happening. >> i'm sorry because of the time we are up against a hard break. that is the question. thank you for staying up at this late hour. >> my pleasure. happy to be with you. >> politics next. big win for some of the candidates. >> yes. and no doubt the events in brussels impacted today's election results. we'll have more on that and bernie sanders is logging two wins in the utah caucuses in -- and idaho. we'll have the wrap up next.
it was in response to the bombings in brussels. donald trump suggested he would be open to using torture and water boarding to interrogate suspected it terrorists. he renewed his call to temporarily ban immigrants and visitors from entering the u.s. >> in my opinion this is just the beginning. it will get worse and worse because we are lax and we are foolish. we are foolish. we can't allow these people at this point, we cannot allow these people to come foo the country. i'm sorry. >> yesterday ted cruz agreed that the u.s. visa waiver program is in need of serious scrutiny. he called for an immediate halt to the president's plan to allow thousands of syrian refugees to enter the u.s. he disagreed with the trump's comments earlier this week that perhaps the u.s. should retreat from nato and he went so far as to compare the anti-interventionism to president obama. >> donald trump is wrong that america should withdraw from the world and abandon our
allies. donald trump is wrong that america should retreat from europe and retreat from nato. >> john kasich was very critical of trump's comments on nato. kasich saved the sharpest criticism on president obama who spent less than a minute of his press conference in cuba talking about what happened in brussels before attending a baseball game. here is kasich. >> i am a little surprised that the president is going to a baseball game and if i was president i would cut short my visit. >> the democratic front runner is urging americans to not panic. she said in her speech that trump and cruz's comments are not just wrong. they are dangerous. she tried to paint trump as unstable. listen to this. >> what we saw happen today in brussels, the horrible
terrorist attacks reminds us of how high the stakes are. we live in a complex and dangerous world and we need a commander-in-chief who combine provide leadership that is strong, smart and above all, steady. >> so already we are seeing what happened in brussels have a big impact on the campaign trail. once again terror and isis. >> kristen, thanks so much. it it may become an issue with legs. >> if it wasn't already. >> he is the executive editor of the daily caller. thank you for calling us. >> my pleasure. we were explaining how the attack in brussels will impact the election moving forward. how would it impact today's races? >> there is a good chance.
certainly if you are going to the pollsss in arizona and it is an immigration issue. ultimately it is the sovereignty of all of these countries together is totally unclear. the european union experiment has lead to a lot of people just moving across the border especially when you have people coming in with terror sympathies. as a result you get things like this that leave americans nervous that a terrorist attack can happen in our own soil especially when people are coming in with no loyalty to the country whatsoever. immigration plays a huge role if you look at a place like arizona where the electorat cares sincerely and that's why they chose donald trump. >> assimilation. that's assuming they want to uh simulate in the first --
assimilate in the first place. we have an issue with people who are already here. there was one report in december of 2 -- 2015. there were 95 individuals who were issued visas and they decided they wanted to take away the visas and so they tried to find them to do that and they can't find them. there are suspected it terrorist ties and who they can't find. and you -- >> and you wonder why his message is appealing to people. you have an electorat who is nervous. they definitely don't want another terror attack on u.s. soil. they see these images coming from paris and from all over the world when we see the terror attacks. you start to think how do we prevent this? it is thoughts and prayers and
thoughts and prayers and let's stay the course and let's listen sincerely to these things. often people are looking for solutions. they don't want terror attacks in their homes. that's why, again, trump comes out as one of the few politicians who came out. whether you agree with him or not let's close down the border and stop these muslim immigrants until we have a sense of what their intentions are which is why this refugee issue has become a huge one and why it is baffling why the obama administration has said let's bring them in, but for what? to what purpose? >> trump said close down the borders and cruz said we should fight isis from the air and from the ground and i believe kasich said we need to build a coalition. finally i want to ask you about president obama's response to all of this today. what is your opinion on that? >> the president came out and he gave a quick statement on this.
i expected the president to go longer on what has been the international news story of the day. he made comments to espn and his whole reaction has been this is a 24-hour news cycle and it is hard to do all of these things. i don't know why anyone is listening to the president speak and saying man i have so much sympathy for how tough your job is. people are concerned about the security. ultimately it will be serious and after the paris uhing tayses and all of the candidates who seemingly showed a core come pen see took a huge bump. i imagine the rest of the election, one of the defining issues is national security. >> a lot of people said donald trump would take a severe hit and the exact opposite
happened. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> and we have more ahead on news that continues to develop. some information that broke this hour that the attackers were brothers and they were known to police. >> why did intelligence fail to look into this network? we will explore the haunting question straight ahead.
reports this morning that the terror suspects in brussels were brothers and known to police. joining us now is the former intelligence operative and a fellow at the foreign policy research center and a special contributor to the military times. thank you for sticking around and joining us. >> good morning. >> i should say at least two, two of the suspects involved in the attack we have now discovered were brothers. you can see them dressed in the dark clothing and believed to be the suicide bombers. the person in the white is still on the run. people are still looking for him. >> does this information surprise you that police are aware of these brothers? >> no, not at all. there is a ranking that goes on and these guys were foot soldiers.
that means they are replaceable. that means there are a dozen more people willing to get into that place. if you want to dismantle the network it is the people who provide the money and the housing and the direction. these guys are disposable. >> as we continue to talk we will take live picture which is is from a memorial service going on in bros sell right now. in brussels right now. the last known death count was around 34 and 200 others injured. this will have an impact far and wide. it services 22 sick different countries. the second blast is located just down the road from there and the u.s. embassy. were these suspects trying to send a message? >> of course, and let's take a step back. these suspects were acting under direction.
they didn't plan this out. they executed. they executed based on what someone told them to do and someone who gave them money and trading. these brothers had a criminal background. for lack of a better term there was a master mind behind this and it was not these two brothers. >> in terms of being aware of different individuals i know there was this list that was put together by the belgian authorities and it went out in june and had the names of three paris attackers includingalam who was captured and his brother who blew himself up in the paris attacks and the alleged ringleader who was killed in a shootout. and then we discover that he was hiding out in plain sight
from where he lived and around the corner from the bar he owned. when you are discussing earlier the level of importance when they are searching for people, this guy was the most wanted individual and he was still able to escape authority. how? >> i don't think he is able to escape authorities. this is one of the challenges that they are facing. i have a feeling they were probably watching him and they are looking to see how big his network is, who his resources are. i think they made a mistake and waited too long. that's my assumption. they captured him and he was cooperating. when they did that they set in motion -- they figure we are not going to jail so let's execute our operation. >> thank you so much for joining us.
and losses on tuesday night. donald trump, he took arizona. senator ted cruz won big in utah. hillary clinton took arizona and senator bernie sanders won in utah and idaho. a real mix that we would now attempt to in the best of our ability decipher for you. our panel of fox news contributors remains with us. the chief political correspondent for the political review and tony you have this mixture. it is a mess. is there a common theme or a common trend that we can detect from the results on tuesday night? >> yeah, the voters on both sides don't want the party to end. on the democrat side as much as there is a feeling of inevitability for hillary clinton it is far from what is expected.
she was supposed to have a cor nation march -- coronation march. he had a peculiar socialist and he has given her a real run. it is coming up in double digits. >> he is in the strike that toss fear. stratosphere. >> it is not as if they are regional liesed. he won colorado and minnesota and tonight wins in idaho and in utah. she will have to continue to fight for this and the longer the pit projects it makes it difficult where she wants to be which is much more toward the center. national security and terrorism bill be a huge issue for hillary clinton. people do not trust the -- one issue where there is uniform
dissogs r satisfaction -- dissatisfaction is is terrorism and national security. >> cruz and trump. trump big win in arizona that basically is in ted cruz's backyard. he tried to make immigration an issue and we have the trump strain going over everybody. >> steam rolling. cruz won utah and with 50%. he continues to stay in the game and tries to keep things close. bernie sanders is still in and he will still be that gnat to hillary clinton. with cruz we will see if he does well in wisconsin and if scott walker suprts him. >> what do you think he will do? >> that's just it. >> any guesses? >> no. i'm just throwing it out there. >> is it helping or hurting these candidates to get these endorsements. this election is about an
outsider. the more endorsements you get as insiders does it count against you? i wanted to ask you in terms of better intoe and why he is having overwelming success, is it about his policies or more about the fact he is an outsider? >> jng he is an outsider in an outsider year. i come here on tuesday nights and wednesday mornings and i expect that we are going to have a definitive answer and candidates on either side. every time we come here there are no more answers. >> there has to be at some point in july and august we have that answer. how do we get there? >> they have to go into the conventions with the wind at their back. we all on this panel and both of you have covered elections for quite some time. when have they meant anything? when was the last time we worried about the utah caucus and arizona primary.
it goes to show you there is an unresolved feeling. people are not ready to for their pick. both parties are going through a battle for their heart and soul. the progressives on the left are fighting for it and the populous on the right are fighting for it. jo. >> there is an out -- on outsider feeling. it is a significant part of the party traditionals. this is what is is going on. i hate to say it, but it reminds me of 1968. >> we won in 1968 so thank you for that. >> it is reflective of the favor built ratings for congress as well. >> and americans are tired of politics as usual. so it is in the power of the hands of the voters. it is the bottom up.
and that's what the establishment can't control. >> any guesses of what we will see in november? >> i am trying to get to april right now. >> i think we will have our hands full. >> look i really do think that what we will end up seeing is the american people willing to gamble a little more than they have with their vote. that's the rise of donald trump. democrats try to view it through the zero sum prison where they think the same 50% that voted in 2012 are the same that came out in 2016. >> democrats are not that naive. >> you are right. others have come out and said, look, trump might not be the candidate we want to match up against. these others are going to be much more predictable. i think for the primary and you touched on this before, but i think the ted cruz camp is going to be working furiously to get these rubio delegates and to get the scott
walkers and the others firmly behind them. that's the way they can possibly prevent trump from getting the nomination. >> and ultimately do the party leaders listen to the people? that's what the election is about. >> you don't want to have a chicago 1968 convention for the republican or the democrats. >> we'll see if that happens. it is all about control. we'll see if we let it go. >> >> that was fun. >> we are here usually on these late tuesdays when they have these elections. i thank you for joining with us and staying with us. >> "fox and friends first" is live at the top of the hour.
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