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investigation on president obama's ties to the muslim world. don't miss it. again, thanks for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly, please remember that the spin stops right here because we' definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, a historic moment in the 2016 presidential race. a year-long fbi investigation into hillary clinton's e-mail server scandal is over, ending with a devastating account of how the former secretary of state has systematically misled the american people for 16 months about almost every facet of this scandal. good evening and welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly. more than 16 months ago, americans learned that secretary of state hillary clinton was conducting the business of the u.s. government from a private e-mail account, managed on her own private e mail server, kept at her moment in new york. outside the purview of the
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federal government or its controls for classified communications. immediately sparking concerns that the nation's top diplomat may have compromised america's top secrets. mrs. clinton downplayed it all, and her top aides dismissed the people's criticism of her actions as, quote, absurd. the fbi launched an investigation, and hours ago fbi director james comey announced his agency's findings. the fbi director finding the evidence does not support criminal charges against mrs. clinton, but absolutely supports a finding that she misled the american people over and over and over again while under federal investigation. for example, mrs. clinton argued right from the get-go that she never, never sent or received any classified information on her personal e-mail. watch. >> i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail.
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there is no classified materials. >> i never sent or received any classified material. they are retroactively classifying. >> from a group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the state department in 2014, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. >> they were classified at the time they were sent or received. this is not a matter of retroactive classification. that was another misleading statement from the clinton camp. next, mrs. clinton's repeated claim that she turned over all official e-mails to investigators and that the american people could trust her that there were none lurking on her private server or inappropriately withheld from the state department once she got caught with the private server. that she was hiding nothing. well, listen to that. >> i have absolute confidence that everything that could be in
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any way connected to work is now in the possession of the state department. >> the fbi also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not among the group of 30,000 e-mails returned by secretary clinton to state in 2014. >> in any way -- in any way it was turned over except the fbi director says, no. some of these work-related e-mails she failed to turn over were actually also classified according to director comey. next mrs. clinton said that she only used her personal e-mail because she didn't want to carry more than one e-mail device. >> i thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal e-mails instead of two. >> secretary clinton used several different servers and administrators of those servers during her four years at the state department. and she also used numerous mobile devices to send and to read e-mail on that personal
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domain. >> next, mrs. clinton claimed her unprecedented e-mail setup was permitted by the rules. >> it was allowed, and the rules have been clarified since i left about the practice. >> none of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system. they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly-classified information. >> the fbi director went on to say that no reasonable person in secretary clinton's position could have believed that they were acting appropriately. next, mrs. clinton has repeatedly assured the country that america's secrets were safe despite their presence on her home server. >> it had numerous safeguards. it was on property guarded by the secret service, and there were no security breaches. >> we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to secretary clinton's personal e-mail account. >> director comey found the world's most notorious hackers knew about mrs. clinton's e-mail
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and said it is conceivable they have everything, although the fbi is not able to prove that, he said. however, after all that, director comey said he to conclude that the former secretary of state likely committed no crime here. >> in looking back at our investigations into the mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. >> the director explaining that in similar cases, there has been evidence that the target intended to disclose classified material, that there was obvious disloyalty to the united states or obstruction of justice, none of which he found present in this case. joining us tonight on all of this, republican speaker of the house paul ryan, who today said the fbi announcement, quote, defies explanation and sets a, quote, terrible precedent. he'll be here in moments. plus former assistant fbi director james kos trum is here
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on what he's other hearing from former and current agents who work for the fbi. we begin tonight with brit hume. brit, great to see you. your thoughts. >> thanks, megyn. well, you did a very good job there of setting forth just how comey's statement just blew up this tissue of lies that has been told by secretary clinton throughout this case, ending, of course, with his conclusion that while, as he put it at one point, there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information -- then he goes on to say our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. he didn't really find necessarily that she hadn't committed a crime. he just said that he didn't think it was a crime that should be prosecuted, which is a different matter entirely and goes well beyond what one might have expected an fbi director to recommend to the department perhaps or to say publicly, which makes this whole procedure today more than a little unusual, megyn, because if you
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think about it, if he didn't think it was worth prosecuting, all he had to do when you think about it is simply turn over his findings to the department of justice and leave it to the department of justice to make what he described as a prosecutive decision. >> mm-hmm. >> he declined to do that. in fact i think what he probably thought, megyn, was that if he did that, there wasn't any chance that the department would bring charges. and if you start thinking about the obama justice department with loretta lynch at its head, formerly headed by eric holder, the most credible person in the whole place that anybody has ever heard of is james comey of the fbi. >> mm-hmm. >> and it's not too much to suggest here, it seems to me, that he has placed his credibility at the service of what he knew would be the ultimate outcome of this case once it was referred to the justice department. and in that sense, he did this administration, this attorney general, and perhaps it's unfair to say hillary clinton a very great service, although as i say, he did blow up her whole --
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that whole network of lies that she told over time. >> well, he seemed to be saying -- we're going to get into the law after you. but he seemed to be saying to me -- this is how i interpreted it -- that no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case like this because the history doesn't support cases like this. when these cases are brought, it's for intentional actions that undermine the security of the united states. and if you look at the ones that have been brought, it's where somebody intentionally stole documents. >> right. >> from the government agency, downloaded them on their personal device, kept them at home, lied to the fbi when they got caught, tried to throw the device into a river, that kind of thing. >> right. >> and he is right that there isn't a case that looks much like this one. >> that's right. >> however, the recitation of the lies, brit. he didn't have to do that. >> no, he didn't. i think in that sense, he you know, basically what he said is she did everything short of a crime and then lied about it all the way. >> while she was being investigated. i don't know if she lied to him, but she repeatedly told the
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american people a bunch of nonsense. >>le with, that's true. this sets that forth completely. one thing that he didn't quite get to is you notice along the way, megyn, secretary clinton changed her claim from there was no classified information to there was no information marked classified. >> mm-hmm. >> and that was a -- that was a complete deception from the jump because information is not classified because it's marked. it's marked because it's classified. >> and he took that on directly. >> well, he basically blew that up too if you think about it. >> but, brit, you've been saying that all along, and he agrees with you and not with mrs. clinton, who also knows better. but my question for you is whether this makes any difference. her dishonesty numbers are already through the roof. the democrats, you know, so far have not shown a huge inclination toward trump. how does this play in the political race? >> there's still a significant body of undecided voters out there, enough to make the election go one way or the
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other. and this takes out of hillary clinton's arsenal any effective weapon claiming that donald trump is irresponsible and possibly reckless. she has now been found by the federal bureau of investigation to have engaged in extreme carelessness in the handling of the nation's most sensitive information. that is really damning. it would, under ordinary circumstances, it would rule out a candidate for president. but this is a peculiar year under peculiar circumstances. she's up against a candidate who has got about 40% support. he seems to have trouble breaking out of that. and is distrusted by many voters. but make no mistake about it. she carries this burden into the fall, and it will be with her all the way. and it is all kinds of fuel for the trump campaign if it uses it effectively. >> all they need is director comey. all they need is him. he should be in every ad trump runs because trump doesn't have to say a word. he just has to point to the director of the fbi. brit, it's good to see you. >> thank you, megyn.
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>> one of the fiercest reactions came from speaker paul ryan. he will join us in a kelly file exclusive on why he thinks this decision creates a very big problem in the future. plus former fbi deputy director james carlstrom has been talking with former and current fbi agents today. he's next on what he's hearing from inside the bureau on this decision. and what about the investigation into the clinton foundation? that never came up today, and we'll investigate the reason why when we come right back. ♪ 3, 2, 1 [whispered 'rocket']
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and this is just that should not discuss that at this point. >> fox first reported in january that the fbi was investigating the possible intersection of state department business and the clinton foundation and whether public corruption laws are violated. cheryl mills said twice, information to the foundation later deemed classified in one case, the information was to the foundation because of an up coming trip to africa. today, director comey read the statements and did not take questions from reporters and seemed to anticipate the
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backlash. >> i can ensure the american people this investigation was done independently. >> three current or former fbi agents told fox they were surprised and even disgusted from the statement. one agent, recently retired said it was a sad day when it comes to integrity. >> year reaction to what we saw from director comey today? >> you know i thought the events of the last week there is something fishy going on. here he goes through the charging memo and reads every
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paragraph of it and comes to the conclusion that wasn't his to make. i met prosecutors who would take that case in a heartbeat and several different agents of basically worried about the representation of the agency they love and work hard for all their lives. and i don't know what has got over the guy. i don't understand why he's coming from. i mean, it makes no sense, megyn. >> do you think he was under political pressure? the reports are that this is a republican guy that he's been fair and tough on both sides. >> well, very to think he got beat up and he played the game probably they were going to hand
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it off to the justice department for the decision without his comment but that probably put an end to that. >> so the air plane meeting on the tarmac between bill clinton and attorney general lynch? >> exactly. so you know, so they called on him to do it. and i sure wish he hadn't done it. lying has got to be quite an act. i'm not saying he's lying i'm saying he's under political pressure but lying is hard to explain to your children and grandchildren and it's just something that goes in day in and day out. it's not what this country is about. >> i mean, do you make an account because he talked about look, i get it and went through, he didn't call them lies in the statement but when you match up here, his point is that you've
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got to believe comey is lying and there is intent to steal the documents or intent to undermine national security. >> when you tell staff to remove the classified markings, you know, in some of those, they don't needed attached so i think that is a red herring. >> good to see you. thank you for being here. >> good to see you. >> director comey's decision had researchers scouring the justice department for results in similar cases. one concerned retired navy commander that pleaded guilty to transferring data to a personal computer. chief petty officer lyle white also moved classified material to a personal hard drive but admitted he should not and he was fined $10,000 and sentenced to two months confinement.
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and john deutsch. but these men admitted they knew the classified materials were vulnerable. joining me now, shannon kauffman, serving as council to dick cheney. good to see you. so let me start with you, matthew. someone defending this justice department, mr. holden, on whether you believe, and here is what the critics say. they say this statute requires gross negligence. that is what had to be proven. they say director comey's statement they couldn't prove intent to harm the united states and transfer secrets. that is not in the statute. they say he was writing something into the statute that wasn't there. what say you? >> let's talk about gross negligence.
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if you would have charged hillary clinton with gross negligence for receiving e-mails she didn't know were classified you'd have to charge everyone else who sent those e-mails, those were e-mail chains you'd have to charge them all and would set a precedent any time a government official received or sent classified information that they knew or didn't know was classified they'd be subject to criminal charges. and if you look back government officials, you'd probably find things that are classified. the area is gray and murky at times and it's not something that supports criminal charges and i think director comey was right. >> shannon? >> look. you don't have to charge anyone out there. maybe someone else in her inner core, but no one else, megyn,
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established their own server to the the entire purpose of avoiding public scrutiny. as my friend stewart baker said to me today is that hillary clinton was much more concerned about the g.o.p. getting her documents than the chinese or the russians and that is the problem. >> but the issue is whether the courts have written this intent requirement into the statute, whether the supreme court has said that some 1941 case that her defender is decided this statute is sketchy to begin with. >> no. it's not. >> they say that you can't bring a prosecution against somebody if you can't show one of those -- that she intended to compromise national security. >> no. there is no judicial clause on the statute. and 1924, a, the other statute. >> the misdemeanor statute that
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petraeus got. >> that comey mentioned doesn't require intensive process. >> but requires gross negligence, right? >> no. no. the only intent is taking this document and put it where it's not supposed to be. >> it requires knowledge the documents were classified. once you didn't know that here, 2, 2, we hear a lot about the private server and it's fair to say it was a mistake to set it up and fair to question it in terms of records management but for scriminal charges it doesn' make a bit of difference whether it was a classified server or not classified. >> did you hear the open of the show? >> i did. >> what about the things she said that were not true. does that bother you? >> so, you know i'm not ready to
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give full credence to what jim comey said today. if they want to make the charges they are supposed to place an indictment and let them stand in court where they can be defended by the other party. i don't believe he's lying but unfortunately by standing up and making this type of statement, outside of the realm, outside of the doj rules, without providing evidence, he put the clinton campaign in a very difficult situation. at some point. with his statement. >> director comey put hillary clinton in a difficult situation? >> let me give you an example. >> it had nothing to do with her. i have to go. but brit hume, his saying is winners take responsibility and losers leave losers. >> she has taken responsibility. >> has she? really? >> she has. >> first she said it was a mistake, then, it wasn't a mistake. >> she said repeatedly.
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>> all right. thank you both for being here. speaker paul ryan is standing by. he's next to explain why he thinks this causes big problems for the future, and we'll have controversy for the trump campaign. just ahead. vroom! hey bill - watch the car for me? sure! screech! hmm... vroom! have a nice day!
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from the world headquarters of fox news, it's the kelly file, with megyn kelly. >> former fbi assistant director james kallstrom just told us how some folks at the bureau are in disbelief over today's announcement from director comey. our next guest says not only does he think the decision defies explanation, he thinks it helps create the impression that some folks in washington believe hillary clinton is above the law. joining me now in a kelly file exclusive, house speaker paul ryan. thank you for being here. >> good to be with you. thanks for having me. >> why do you say that, that people are going to believe she's above the law, because the fbi director, by all accounts a straight shooter, says no reasonable prosecutor would have brought this case? >> he basically spent a number of minutes walking through how she not only mishandled classified information, how she was grossly negligent, it seemed to me as he was going through his case, it seemed he was going
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to recommend prosecution, only then he recommended against prosecution. people have been convicted for far less. the point is, yes, this certainly does underscore the belief the clintons live above the law. this is one of the reasons why people are so dissatisfied, so upset about government. they think that people live by a different set of rules, and the clintons, they take the candle on this one. number one, the fbi should give us all of their findings. they should release all of their findings of this information. she's actually you know, competing for commander-in-chief here. i think there's a whole accounting that needs to happen. number two, we're going to have hearings. jason chaffetz, chairman of the oversight committee is going to be calling up james comey to ask questions. he didn't answer any questions with the press. and our judiciary committee has sent a number of questions. there are a lot of unanswered questions here, megyn. >> do you think he caved to political pressure? >> i don't know the answer to that question. i'll take him at his word, but what i don't really understand is after he lists this laundry list of violations, he comes to that conclusion.
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that's point number one. point number two. >> before you get too point number two, what he said was in the other cases, there was evidence of intentional deception or intention to undermine national security or obstruction of justice, and he didn't see her behavior rising to that level. >> yeah, your legal background is certainly deeper than mine. i do other things here but the point is she clearly lives above the law. let me say this. he shredded the case that she had been making all year long. he shredded the things that she had been saying in her own defense all year long about her case. >> so now that's a different issue. he put the lie to a bunch of her statements. >> that's right. >> but you tell me. does that -- do you think that's disqualifying for her? >> oh, sure i do. i think she clearly said things that were not true, and he basically gave us that. i think we need to know more quite frankly. the other thing that concerns me is that she's just going to get away with this in the sense that
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she grossly was negligent. she mishandled classified information and now she wants to be commander-in-chief. when i was mitt romney's running mate, i got classified briefings every week by the cia, by national intelligence, very sensitive information, which you get as a candidate once a convention occurs. comey said short of prosecution, some kind of administration action should occur, bringing consequences. i think the director of national intelligence should block her access to classified information given how recklessly she handled this during the presidential campaign. if she becomes president, that's one thing. but i don't think she should get classified information, and i think the dni should block it given how recklessly she handled this from the start. >> let's take a look to see how president obama feels about hillary clinton and whether that is likely to happen if he has anything to say about it. here he is in october 2015. listen. >> this is not a situation in which america's national security was endangered.
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>> so maybe or maybe not according to the fbi director. does the president owe the american people an update to his earlier statement because comey says it may have been? >> the president, i've heard him say things with such certainty that we know later on aren't the case. obviously as comey said people she was communicating with got hacked and therefore she clearly could have been hacked. he certainly raises that possibility. what really just mystifies me is the case he makes and then the conclusion he draws and what bothers me about this is the clntss really are living above the law. this is why we're going to have hearings, and this is why i think comey should give us all the publicly available information to see how and why they reached these conclusions. >> how does this play out in your view? because, you know, you have been supporting donald trump. you know, there have been some issues, but you've been supporting him. do you believe this means that donald trump should be our next president?
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>> well, i endorsed donald trump about a month ago. >> but you waver. >> when he says things i don't agree with, i'm going to speak with my mind. i see a binary choice in front of us. it is hillary clinton or donald trump. yes, donald trump is far better to be commander-in-chief than hillary clinton in my mind. i don't think hillary clinton is going to do any of the things that we need to do to get this country back on the right track. more importantly, i think she's been holding herself to a different set of standards and i don't think that's representative of what we want to see in the white house. >> how about donald trump today? over the weekend he tweeted out a picture that many have said includes an anti-semitic slur. here it is. they believe this is improper use of the star of david, and the suggestion here is clear. he denies it. you came out and said it's not -- it's not appropriate, the use of anti-semitic images. you believe he did that. >> yeah, i mean i can't see it and i didn't see it. but obviously if it's an
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anti-semitic image, we shouldn't be doing these things. i think one of his campaign flunkies did this. i think they've got to fix their new media strategies, and i think we should move on. but i don't think there's anyplace in a campaign for anything that can look like an anti-semitic image. i think they should make sure they put controls in place so they don't make this kind of mistake again. >> last question. tonight at a rally, donald trump said saddam hussein was a bad guy, but he was very, very good at killing terrorists in response to which many people came out and started to go through the litany of very, very bad things that saddam hussein has done. any thoughts from you on the praise he had for hussein? >> he was one of the 20th century's most evil people. he was up there, and he committed mass genocide against his own people using chemical weapons. saddam hussein was a bad guy. >> paul ryan, any chance this convention is going to include some prisurprises from you? any chance if the republican
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party turns to you and says, we want you? >> he got the votes. he won the votes. he won it fair and square. it's just that simple as far as i'm concerned. >> great to see you, mr. speaker. >> you too, megyn. in moments, we're going to hear from katrina pierson. plus top democrats captured national attention with their big protests for new gun laws after the terror attack in orlando. so guess what they're doing after more than 60 people were shot in chicago this weekend? we'll i accept i'm not 22 i accept i do a shorter set these days. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. but i won't play anything less than my best. so if there's something better than warfarin, i'm going for it. eliquis. eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, plus it had significantly less major bleeding than warfarin... eliquis had both... that's what i wanted to hear.
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that. but peter doocy has the latest. >> megyn, the debate boils down to whether or not you think a six sided star looks more like a star of david or a sheriff's badge. this weekend it all started when the twitter account posted the image on the left with text calling hillary clinton the most corrupt candidate ever printed on that star. once social media users started criticizing the post saying it looked like a star of david, it was taken down, then reposted with a circle in place of the star. the clinton campaign called this both anti-semitic and part of a pattern. but trump says the shape at the center of the controversy was not a symbol of the jewish faith. instead a symbol of law enforcement, a badge, and his social media director dan scavino tells us the social media graphic used this weekend was not created by the campaign, nor was it sourced from an anti-semitic site. it was lifted from an anti-hillary twitter user where countless images appear. the sheriff's badge, which is
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available under microsoft shapes fit with the theme of corrupt hillary, and that is why i selected it. trump himself now also accusing hillary clinton of using this to try to change the subject away from her e-mails. he says clinton, through her surrogates, is just trying to divert attention from the dishonest behavior of herself and her husband, and it is worth pointing out that trump's own daughter, ivanka, is jewish. she converted a few years ago when she married jared kushner, and jared kushner is now a major behind the scenes player at his father-in-law's campaign. megyn. >> peter, thank you. and says he's never known his father-in-law to be in any way anti-semitic. joining me now to respond, katrina pierson and julie ra begin ski. what is it about the tweet that is anti-semitic? >> on top a pile of money, i think if you're jewish, your tentacles are incredibly raised by this. the source is an anti-semitic tweeter. more importantly than that,
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you've got people from david duke to now paul ryan saying this is an anti-semitic image. clearly the message is very obvious to people who understand this. and the history of this is so repugnant because if you know anything about 20th century anti-semitism, this was the kind of imagery thats with used consistently in 1900s russia, in 1930s germany. donald trump has a history of this. it's not just this tweet. it's the fact when he was asked to refute all of the anti-semitic things people were saying about a reporter that wrote an unflattering story about his wife, he said, quote, i don't have a message for my fans. when they were saying the most vile anti-semitic things to her. when they stopped asking him to sfop using the phrase america first, he refused to do that. where there's smoke, there's fire. this is consistently a dog whistle, and a very overt message to the anti-semites in this country. >> first, you'd have to really
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suspend all logic and reason to just say that this was obviously anti-semitic because it wasn't. the intent was definitely not there, which was why you saw the image that was changed. but really i'm struck by hillary clinton's response, cal particular image anti-semitic, considering her hometown is chicago, illinois, has a six point star yellow badge. so why is this all of a sudden anti-semitic? >> because you throw it on top of money. >> sheriff, cor upgs, badge. >> you source it from a bunch of tweeters who have a history of anti-semitism and horrible vile things they say about jews. you have consistently -- >> no. the media and the pundits are saying the source was an anti-semitic. someone else used it on an anti-semitic website. >> you heard the speaker say somebody has got to take control of trump's social media because he continues to get himself in
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trouble on the twitter. >> the speaker can say whatever he wants. this idea that this was somehow anti-semitic is false, period. yes, it was a. >> who controls his social media? >> i don't know. you have -- >> did trump re-tweet that or was. >> this was dan scavino, who already came out and said there was no intent here. dan scavino is married to a jewish woman. >> that whole concept, that's the last refuge of anti-semities and racists. give me a break. there is a consistent pattern here with donald trump. this is not a partisan thing. >> before we go, do we have time with a sound bite? i want to hear the donald trump sound bite on saddam hussein. watch. >> saddam hussein was a bad guy, right? he was a bad guy, really bad guy. but you know what he did well? he killed terrorists. he did that so good. they didn't read them the rights. they didn't talk. they were a terrorist. it was over.
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today iraq is harvard for terrorism. you want to be a terrorist, you go to iraq. it's like harvard, okay? >> so saddam hussein, he killed and buried in mass graves about 300,000 people, and the rub on that, katrina is he should not be citing saddam hussein in any positive way. >> the idea is the destabilization of the middle east from the simple fact that we have terrorism running rampant. the last two weeks it's quite obvious we have a serious problem here, and hillary clinton was a part of that. >> saddam hussein has done horrible things. >> when you gas your own people, you don't get to wind up in the -- >> this is why it matters. because we're going to continue doing illegal things, going into sovereign nations, overthrowing governments, allowing terrorism to flourish if hillary clinton becomes president. that's why it's important. >> donald trump wanted to go in and quote unquote take iraq's oil. how is he going to do that? go into a sovereign nation? saddam hussein rained scud
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missiles upon tel aviv. there were plenty of jews in tel aviv who suffered at the terrorism of saddam hussein. this is not a good day for donald trump and the jewish community. i'll leave it at that. >> yes we will. thank you both. up next, more than 60 people are shot in one deadly weekend in chicago. some want to know where are the anti-gun democrats now? we'll hear from radio host kevin jackson and richard fowler next. ♪ the sun'll come out tomorrow... ♪ for people with heart failure, tomorrow is not a given. but entresto is a medicine that helps make more tomorrows possible. ♪ tomorrow, tomorrow... ♪ i love ya, tomorrow in the largest heart failure study ever. entresto helped more people stay alive and out of the hospital than a leading heart failure medicine. women who are pregnant must not take entresto. it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren. if you've had angioedema while taking an ace or arb medicine,
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developing tonight, it's been less than two weeks since house democrats staged a 25-hour sit in aimed at forcing a halt on guns in the wake of the orlando terror attack. today, democrats took to the house floor to deliver more speeches. but as the democrats go on about orlando, gun violence in another city is being largely ignored. four people were killed, more than 60 shot over the july 4th holiday weekend in chicago. a city that's already seen more than 2,000 shooting victims just this year and is expected to hit 700 homicides by year end. so where's the outrage over events in the president's adopted hometown? kevin jackson is a conservative headio host. richard fowler is a nationally syndicated radio host. you tell me, kevin. where is it? >> hey, 329 people killed so far.
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black lives matters protesting the gay parades. black lives matter hasn't said a word. where is it? it doesn't exist because the outrage only occurs when it's a cop shooting somebody or, you know, in particular, a white cop. and it's a shame because you know what, megyn, next weekend it will be more killings. the weekdend after that, more killings. people build entire radio programs knowing chicago is going to have massive murders all year long. >> it's incredible, richard. what of it? >> one, in a building behind me, speaker to demand a vote so we can have more gun control in the country. joining john lewis was the representative from chicago, who stated in an article to the hill, when it comes to what i believe in, i will get arrested because i'm seeing too much violence in chicago. something has to be done. >> they're talking about orlando. >> the entire caucus is trying to get gun reform done.
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sadly, chicago is something of a washington transmitted disease. the lack of an action from the building behind me. the majority of americans, 85% of the public believe in background checks. 85% of the public believes -- [ overlapping voices ] >> anything they're considering that would stop the gun violence in chicago? >> there's multiple bills. >> that's for kevin. >> no, no. megyn, first of all, rahm emanuel, he nailed it. finally he said we've got a problem where the same people, the gang members are committing these crimes. we put them in jail. liberal policies allow these guys back on the streets. they take their illegal guns and they go and do the same thing. >> how do they get an illegal gun, kevin. >> it's a cycle of -- >> black market, richard. >> no. kevin, i'll tell you how they get it. according to the democratic nominee for the new state's attorney of illinois, she indicated they've only prosecuted three purchasers this year where a person who can buy
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a gun who gives it to somebody who cannot buy a gun. so if we want to have a conversation -- >> let richard finish his point, then kevin. >> why can't we agree on that? why can't we stop straw purchasers? why can't we go after them? >> richard, the reason why you always come back with this type of an argument, legal gun owners -- >> answer my question. >> the law-abiding citizens of chicago, who need to carry guns with concealed carry or whatever, you don't care about them. the very people that sat in the congress and did that sit-in, 26 of them have guns. >> i don't care about them either. i care about -- >> nompt the only thing you care about dch. >> i care about people. >> you haven't heard anything i said about the criminals who -- >> i heard everything you said. >> i'm going to give you ten seconds, richard. go. >> i'm perfectly okay with folks who want to get a gun to get a gun. i have a problem with folks who get a gun and sell it to a criminal. nobody cracks down on them because t
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those who raise questions about hillary clinton's e-mail practices, her campaign chairman said this in march. >> i think this is an absurdity. >> this is an absurdity. thoughts on that kelly file. @megyn kelly. thanks. tonight. >> we are expressing to justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case. >> the fbi decides no the to recommend criminal charges against hillary clinton over the use of her private e-mail server despite a mountain of evidence of wrongdoing. doug schoen, jay sekulow, and judge jeanine peer row are here with reaction. >> i never sent nor received any -- any e-mail that was marked classified. >> then hillary clinton is caught repeatedly lying about her private e-mail server. >> 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information.