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a bz beater, donald trump after being -- shakes up campaign team. a move quickly dismissed by pundits. >> first off, i'm always new for chairs on the trump tannic. it's not mr. corey, it's not mr. manafort, it's the candidate, stupid. >> i don't think it matters. it's donald trump. >> did he hire someone who will broaden his appeal or a mirror that indulges his worst impulses? given that the breitbart as of late has induced conspiracies, i worry. >> with paul manafort resigning after some damaging stories in
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"new york times," will hiring the executive chairman of breitbart, the controversial and fiercely pro-trump website help the campaign? and the media remains skeptical about trump's tone. >> sometimes in the heat of debate and speaking on a multitude of issues, you don't choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. i have done that. and believe it or not i regret it. >> as journalists question whether this new approach will last. hillary clinton accused by trump of lacking the mental and physical stamina to fight isis. is the press calling fo ining f making her health an issue? canceling "the late night show," can the network no longer make comedy gold out of politics? plus, should the press have fallen for ryan lochte's bogus burglary story? i'm howard kurtz and this is
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"media buzz." donald trump insisted he wasn't going to pivot. he wasn't going to change. and he seemed to make that clear by hiring stephen bannon, the chairman of the vehemently pro-trump conservative website, breitbart. but the more media impact seemed to come from the topic of a new campaign manager, pollster kellyanne who is popular with reporters and touting trump's speech in which he said he regretted causing anyone personal pain. >> you mention anyone who's been personally offended by what he said, will he reach out to the khan family personally? >> he may, but i certainly hope they heard him last night. and i certainly hope america heard him last night because of all the people, david, who've been saying let's get trump to pivot, be more presidential, that is presidential. >> joining us now from new york,
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amy holmes, political analyst and former anchor at "the blaze," in washington, heidi, senior political correspondent for "usa today" and here in los angeles, leslie marshal, radio host and fox news contributor. heidi, when manafort stepped down in the wake of the big shakeup, you could see the spin evolve during the day. talk about spin cycle. first it was, oh, manafort volunteered to do this, it was his idea, he brought in kellyanne, felt like he couldn't budge the candidate. and then other sources were heard from. explain what happened. >> howie, this just struck me of another example of trump being pressured to use what is really a conventional campaign tactic and by the end saying the heck with it. the dignified way for campaign managers or anybody else really on a campaign to leave is for everybody to agree it was voluntary, trump issues a statement saying we accept his resignation and the media moves on. maybe they write some background stories about people who are
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disgruntled. but like you said, this was literally evolving minute by minute, and you had kellyanne, the new campaign manager essentially confirming he was asked to leave. it's not these things can't be -- that both sides agree mutually to leave. but i think this is what happens when you have really competing interests trying to spin the interests here. clearly manafort wanted to preserve his dignity on the way out the door, and trump didn't want this to be viewed as a hemorrhaging. >> you can practically imagining the reporters scrambling to reach more sources on manafort, some anti-manafort and get some approximation of the truth. of course, amy, when the shakeup happens it's a bombshell for the campaign. pundits reacted saying it doesn't really matter, trump is the problem. was that a bit dismissive? >> i think it was. and we've seen since donald
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trump hiring kellyanne conway that he has been making this presidential pivot. ironically after firing the guy that said it was going to happen, it's happened under kellyanne becoming the new campaign manager. we'll see if it lasts. and i, you know, donald trump we know has been a very volatile candidate. and of course he deserves media scrutiny, but i think he also deserves credit for at least making these initial attempts. >> but mostly i would say the press was either puzzled by this, leslie marshall, or negative toward it. i know you're no trump fan, but how much of the coverage do you think was influenced by the increasingly hostile tone in the press about donald trump and his candidacy? >> well, i think quite frankly any time trump opened his mouth, everybody would cover it because he's good for ratings. i mean, that's the reality and that's a real bottom line. i don't think trump had any disservice. we have to look historically, this is probably the most shakeup we've seen in a presidential campaign, at least in the most current elections in
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modern day. and i think there was also -- i mean, there was additional element. it wasn't just that he was taking a nose dive in the polls and making yet another change in his campaign staff. but there was also the connections with russia and the ukraine and even the question of legality. i heard some historians say back in the day this would be treason and somebody would be hung for this. >> we'll come back to the manafort question. let me get heidi in on this question. we played it at the top trump giving a scripted speech in which he says he regrets some of his past comments. and i think it would be fair to say most of the press reaction was skeptical, did he really mean it or was he being fed these lines? >> there was definitely some skepticism. and some of it even bordered on snark. i saw one story say, well, it wasn't really an apology because he didn't say the word sorry. but at the same time there was some legitimate reasons for skepticism here. most of all this is just not in character for trump because he's been asked along the way as he's made these controversial comments if he regrets them. and each time he said no.
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it also coincides almost perfectly with kellyanne coming in as his new campaign manager knowing that she wanted to give him -- to soften up his image a bit. so you question whether that's coming legitimately from his heart or from her from a campaign perspective. that said, you know, he did say the words and it was a pretty big deal. >> right. right. well, kellyanne conway said in one of her many interviews this week that donald trump went over the speech with a pen. it wasn't her words. of course she's going to say that. amy, what about the fact that the media, look, let's face it, the media were stunned because trump never apologizes for anything, although he wasn't specific about which comments and to whom he might be expressing regret. >> right. and donald trump himself has said it's a part of his sort of life strategy to always hit back and always retaliate, never let a charge go unanswered. so for him to now be offering what seemed to be an apology of
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course was newsworthy and news making. but for the press to immediately dismiss it and psychoanalyze donald trump, i don't think that's fair either. and at rasmussen reports this week, we released a poll that found 52% of likely voters think that the media that hillary clinton has got the best media coverage so far in this campaign. >> the related question here is we've been through the sort of minipivots before where trump gives a couple script eed speeches, now he's a more disciplined candidate and it doesn't last. so is skepticism on this round justified? >> i think it is absolutely justified. when you have someone who says, you know, just historically, when you look back somebody just says i'm concerned if i've hurt anyone like you had said, there is one note actual specific apology, two, there are no specifics to who he has offended and what he feels remorseful, you know, has regret about. and, i mean, this is the man that talked about punching michael bloomberg in the face.
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this is a man who cared about himself after the orlando terrorist attacks and also felt that a man whose son died for this country was attacking him. and then attacked the mother for the silence. >> you can certainly criticize trump's response. everybody thinks it was a political mistake, but he was denounced by mr. khan at the convention. the "new york times," heidi, did this big piece, it was the first of several pieces of his ties -- the guy's been a lobbyist for years to ukraine and how ledgers were discovered that seemed to show $12 million in cash being earmarked for paul manafort. manafort's vehemently denied he ever received any of that money. he denounced "new york times." what'd you make of that story? didn't prove he got the payme s payments. was that story fair? >> i took a good read, howie, and this is my assessment.
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. i think this is an example the narrative makes this story versus specific facts in this story. going into this we all know that manafort had ties to big russian money and to yanukoyvich, who in particular is as corrupt as they come. so going into that we had the preformed confession. look at the facts. these are handwritten letters, it's an assertion from a ukrainian agency that we're not familiar with. manafort could easily deny it. so, you know, even lower down in the story the investigators had said there was no proof he actually received the money. so that kind of brings us back to why is this news? well, this is news because of what we knew previously which is there is a relationship between these two men that is troubling in and of itself because who yanukoyvich is. >> you know, a lot of people in the press jump to the conclusion, amy, that it was these stories about the russian ties and the ukrainian
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relationship that sunk paul manafort. i'm told by my sources that donald trump while not happy about that distraction was much more upset with the story we talked about last sunday which was big leaky "new york times" piece, his own advisor saying donald trump is not coachable and perhaps concluded manafort's were fairly on that piece. >> well, i wouldn't be surprised if that was the case that donald trump did not like having these leaks in the press that he can't be tamed. but i think getting back to the russia story, part of also what fueled the media coverage of that is that it dovetailed with the vladimir putin/donald trump steamy bromance and the kind words they've had for each other. but if you look at these articles too, you notice buried way down in the print was that the padesta group, hillary clinton campaign manager's brother, they're also under scrutiny. but looking at msm, mainstream media, you would think it was
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only about paul manafort. >> right. i just want to close this segment asking you, leslie, about just the volume, gusher of anti-trump headlines versus those involving hillary clinton. pivot 107 days late. "new york times," in trump's in debt, gop worries all bodes. but today on the front page, with a comfortable lead clinton begins laying plans for her white house agenda, almost as if the race was over. >> i've said it before, i don't think it's right that any outlet is not reporting all the facts. that's what a true journalistic source should do. but again, quite frankly, dirt on donald, anything about donald just is more attractive to readers and to viewers and to listeners than information about hillary clinton. and so if it blieeeds, it leads or if it has donald trump's name in it it leads.
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>> true. before we go to break, the new york daily news cover supposedly trump saying i'm going to lose so good. this piece actually says that his shakeup could be an intentional effort to tank the election in spectacular fashion. talk about a completely unsupported par speculation. you can write to us when we come back, closer look at the controversial breitbart media operation that produced the trump campaign's new ceo. and later, the passing of john mcwho influenced nuch of what you see today on cable news.
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steve bannon has taken plenty of hits in the press since donald trump tapped him as campaign ceo. bannon is a former goldman sachs guy who became chairman at breitbart, the conservative news site that was founded by the late andrew breitbart. >> they changed the name, call it right wing intolerant mean-spirited news, that would be fine. >> but all i know is that one of the worst people on god's green earth was just instituted as the chairman and ceo of the trump campaign. >> if you look at stephen bannon and what they've built at breitbart, it's win at all costs. i think that really makes some people on the left very afraid because they're willing to say and do things others in the mainstream media wouldn't do. >> amy, it's clear to a lot of people out there don't like steve bannon. breitbart has been accused of running a fan site with lots of stories like the ten most important reasons donald trump would make a great president. so what does bannon's hiring say about breitbart and the trump campaign? >> well, it says that donald trump likes, and
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for many journalists it confirms to them that has been sort of a propaganda vehicle for donald trump's candidacy. what i think is more interesting about all of this of course is the internetting warfare on the right once again being exposed. the media, there's nothing they love more than a sex scandal which is republicans fighting each other. >> leslie, bannon dismisses the notion that his site traffics in ugly rhetoric, but in leaked e-mails to a colleague that were obtained by the daily beast, he calls the gop leaders in congress a bunch of c words and says we should all go buck wild. so he's very strong opinions often expressed through the site. >> yeah, and breitbart's site, quite frankly, has been very pro-trump. as a matter of fact, even threw one of their own employees in a sense under the train to defend him, or under the bus, i should say. when we look at that site, the
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problem is they defend trump at all cost. and as we know without facts many times. and we see that most recently just in the state of louisiana when the governor says, look, if the president came here it would be a disaster and nightmare for first responders. that we don't hear about, but we hear about trump and pence making a trip there in that state. >> by the way we invited breitbart to make a representative available for the show and the site declined. heidi, if steve bannon has been advising trump sort of informally and now leaves breitbart to become the campaign ceo but he's on a leave of absence so will probably go back to breitbart, does that mean the site's credibility is taking a hit? i mean, what are people to think when they read breitbart's coverage now with the former chairman running the trump campaign? >> i think what's happening, howie, is that his audience is basically seeing what the impression has been within the media industry all along, which is that breitbart is essentially the trump news network. what's hurtful are also these stories coming out now saying
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that basically, you know, staffers are accusing breitbart of even unproven allegations but taking money for positive coverage, for trump directly overruling editors. and, yeah, if that comes to a point where that is not just the impression within the media community but also among breitbart's audience, i think that that could be problematic for them. and to me the big irony here is that the founder of breitbart, andrew breitbart, had such utter disdain for that type of cozy relationship between journalists and the politicians that they cover for now many conservative commentators to now be accusing breitbart of being essentially like the russian-owned news network. >> what leslie was referring to about an employee being thrown under the bus was the infamous michelle fields incident when she was grabbed by former campaign manager corey lewandowski and breitbart came with the story that took trump's side. whatever you think of that
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incident whether it was overblown, a lot of people quit as a result of that. and finally, "the washington post" story today calls steve bannon's hiring by the trump campaign the latest sign for white nationalists, once dismissed as fringe that their world view was gaining popularity. so i'm sure breitbart defenders will feel like that is a little bit of overheated rhetoric. leslie marshall here in l.a., aimy holmes in new york, heidi, thank you. was the press too quick for following ryan lochte's claim of being burglarized in rio? and later, the demise of gawker.
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the world when he gave nbc this account of what happened to him in rio. >> ryan lochte was on today friday morning within 48 hours he had a gun put to his head. >> they pulled out their guns. they told the other swimmers get down on the ground -- i'm not kidding. down on the ground. and then the guy pulled out his gun. he tapped it, put it to my forehead and said get down. i put my hands up, i was like whatever. >> they stood up to these guys, obviously that was a brave and dangerous thing to do. >> but lochte changed some crucial details in a follow-up interview with matt lauer. and yesterday in yet another interview he backed off a bit more. >> the first version of the story you told, ryan, was much more about the mean streets of rio. >> yeah. >> and the version we're hearing now is much more about a negotiated settlement to cover up some dumb behavior.
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>> and that's why i'm taking full responsibility for it. because i overexaggerated that story. >> joining us now here in los angeles, kim sarafin, a commentator, actress, one-time aide to rudy giuliani. let's start with lochte. this was not an overexaggeration. this was not being less than candid. this was a lie. a complete and total lie. and now in two successive interviews with nbc he appears unwilling or unable to admit that. >> yeah, well, obviously he now had some coaching. he hired a big crisis communication expert. and that's why he went and did that sit-down interview with matt lauer. more is going to air on "today" show on monday. so we'll hear more. this is par for the course. when you get into trouble, you try to make amends. when you do an interview, you do this apology interview and hope you don't lose your endorsement deals, which could be $5 million to $10 million. >> making amends. i'm sorry. i lied. i shouldn't have lied. it was a really bad thing to do.
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i mean, these weasel words are not cutting it, crisis communications or not. this is the classic non-apology apology. >> it's true. he did say it was immature behavior, he overexaggerated. one thing i think that a lot of people are talking about is when matt lauer said, so are you willing to now say it wasn't robbery? because that was really the one point, it was robbery, we were the victims in this whole thing. and matt gave him that opening to say are you willing now to say it wasn't robbery. he said, well, it could be robbery, could be making amends and restitution -- >> well, i kind of felt threatened because the guy had a gun. originally they were in a taxi. they were pulled out by somebody pretending to be a cop. the gun was to his head. i mean, this was not just embellished, this was fiction. but let's go back to the original story. nbc's paid billions for the olympics, airing the interviews. >> right. >> and lochte makes these charges, we saw the reporter say and this was a very brave thing for him to do to defy the
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gunmen. should the press have fallen for this? it always seems like the story -- always seemed to me something wrong with the story but i didn't think he was making it up. should the press have been less? >> i think it played into that. as matt lauer said it played into the mean streets of rio, so people were to accept it. plus the aspect of the olympics, the salacious, the tabloid aspect that we didn't really get, there was the gabby douglas issue that came up people were talking about, but then ratings were down with the olympics. the seats were empty in the olympics. so this kind of fit into another kind of way to talk about something when maybe some of the events weren't getting the kind of buzz. so i think it made sense that the press accepted it because the way that billy bush kind of grabbed him, saw him in the store and then grabbed him. >> right. i think nbc did a good job having been fed the initial lie. it is a lie. >> which al roker said many times, it was a lie, it was a lie. >> in aggressively covering the aftermath and trying to hold
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lochte accountable. kim, we'll see you later in the show. up next, hillary clinton fighting conservative media reports about her health. but her campaign says are wild rumors. and later, so many hollywood celebs out here smacking donald trump around. should we care what they think?
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donald trump with help from some in the conservative media including breitbart and the drudge report is increasingly raising questions about hillary clinton's health. >> importantly, she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis and all of the many adversaries we face. >> shawn hannity focused on one image that's got some attention on the right. >> -- which shows hillary clinton apparently needing assistance to climb a flight of
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stairs at a campaign stop back in february was picked up by the judge report which posted h headline over the weekend detailing hillary clinton's history with falls and speculating that the former secretary of state could be experiencing a serious undisclosed medical condition. >> what your conservative news consuming uncle who e-mails you a lot in all caps what he thinks the most important story in the country right now is this conspiracy theory that hillary clinton is in the mix of a secret grave health crisis. >> joining us now from washington, sarah flores, worked for carly fiorina's presidential campaign. in louisville, chrystal ball, and here in l.a., christina balentoni, assistant editor for politics at "los angeles times." sarah, that photo we saw of hillary clinton being helped up the stairs, that was taken in february after she had stumbled so people were helping her. whether it's drudge or breitbart
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or hannity, does it make sense for some conservatives in the media to be pushing this hillary health issue? >> i think it's driving a lot of traffic on their websites, but if anyone's actually been on the trail in iowa or new hampshire in january or february, i need help going up the stairs. it is icy, you are in heels, you are not prepared for what's going on there unless it is like the most salted road ever. so i think it's a little bit of a distraction, but i don't doubt it's driving traffic. >> i missed the crucial high heels aspect of it. so glad you pointed that out. chrystal, perhaps there are lingering suspicions about hillary clinton after that fainting incident where she suffered a concussion back in 2012. what should the press do here on these health-related questions? >> i think it's absolutely irresponsible for outlets to be pushing this when there's absolutely no proof that there's any issue here. she's actually released more documentation on her medical status than donald trump has. the pictures are taken out of context, as you pointed out. there's also another video
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that's going around that's also been taken out of context. there's just no there there. and you know, howard, i'm no hillary clinton lover, i will support her in this election. i think there are legitimate issues to be pushing her on including the clinton foundation stuff, but this just doesn't make any sense. there's nothing to it. and i think it's disgusting that outlets would mislead their viewers in implying that there's anything really going on here. >> well, i think both candidates should release medical records and hopefully that will be happening. you mentioned this video, so let me come to you, christina, with this one, two-month-old video hillary clinton attempteding to interviewed, wow, did hillary clinton just suffer a seizure on camera. let's take a look at the video here. they're shouting questions at her. okay. now, the a.p.'s lisa laro who is one of the reporters there,
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christina, wrote a piece about this and said that hillary clinton was making an exaggerated motion with her head shaking her head vigorously as kind of like, and was laughing and wasn't scared as some people were saying. what do you think about that piece of video? >> it's dangerous to diagnose anyone from a photograph or a piece of video, or even really what they are saying, right? i am pregnant, four months into it i hadn't told anybody, you know, you really don't know what's going on. >> this breaking news? >> no, this is just where it's dangerous, medical records are helpful, but particularly when you have a female candidate, these issues are not what we should be talking about, right? it should be talking about what each of these candidates would do for the country because you never know whether somebody is mentally capable or physically capable really until they're doing the job. >> right. a lot of these tv doctors giving their opinion. i mean, they've never examined her. it's all done from afar. let's talk about the clinton foundation.
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which now announced that if indeed hillary clinton wins the presidency, the foundation, the family foundation, will no longer accept corporate contributions or contributions from foreign donors, which makes up about half of it. so, sarah, that raises the obvious question, well, that's the standard now, what about when hillary clinton was secretary of state? >> it's incredible. reporters enjoy talking about donald trump because it's easy, a sugar high. but this is where the meat is and you have to dig into it a little. absolutely why in the world would it not be okay for them to take foreign donations when she's president, but it was okay when she was secretary of state? and no one's been able to answer that. at the same time you'll note that the clinton health global health initiative actually hasn't agreed to this. so this one part of their foundation said won't take foreign donations, but another huge part actually won't commit to that. so it's a bundle of mess for hillary clinton. and they are just enjoying the fact that the media for the most
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part is still concentrating on paul manafort's resignation and kellyanne conway, steve bannon and these very easy stories instead of digging into the hard stuff where you got to look at the numbers. >> right. >> krystal, boston globe, shut it down if she wins. "the huffington post" says just shut it down. not a lot of defense in particular where clinton taking foreign money. >> i think it's very hard given that the clinton foundation was built up around bill and hillary and chelsea and their global prestige and that was really what made this foundation work. i think it's very hard if when she becomes president to really effectively put up the wall they would need to. i agree with that assessment. >> all right. >> to what sarah's saying here, i think that there has been a lot of digging into the meat of this issue. unfortunately, we have public records here so that we can have some transparency. with donald trump on the other hand, he has no record of public
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service and we have very little insight into his business dealings since he won't release his tax returns. so it's very hard to know what's going on with him. >> let me jump in. i don't mean to cut you off. quick one for you, christina, "the washington post" headline underscoring the point you made a week ago, turbulent week for trump overshadows clinton's vulnerabilities. >> you know, she's really been under the radar this entire campaign, right? the campaign is about him and her reactions to him and allows him to go into swing states and do things people aren't necessarily paying attention to, but the foundation issue releases a lot of questions about what would bill clinton's role in a clinton white house would be? who knows. they could completely shut the foundation down if she is elected, we don't know that. >> i'm stunned by the line you uttered. the democratic presidential nominee is under the radar because of donald trump. coming up, "the wall street journal" editorial page slams donald trump. why is so much of the conservative media against this
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guy? and later, with larry wilmore gone, how did comedy central screw up its late-night franchise?
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"the wall street journal" editorial page conservative bible to many on the right ratcheted up its criticism of donald trump this week saying of republicans, if they can't get mr. trump to change his act by labor day, the gop will have no
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choice but to write off the nominee as hopeless. and focus on salvaging the senate and house and other down-ballot races. as a risk to trump, he needs to stop blaming everyone else and decide if he wants to behave like someone who wants to be president or turn the nomination over to mike pence. sarah, that was written before the shakeup, but what explains "the wall street journal" not just opposing donald trump but actually suggesting he might have to drop out of this race? >> well, if you look at the polls right now, it is the case that a lot of our down-ballot senate cases are overperforming where trump is in their states, too man thume, ayotte, that being said donald trump not really winning over the conservative vote, the republican vote to the same level hillary clinton is winning the democrat vote. we'll see if the shakeup makes a difference. i think kellyanne conway will put emphasis on winning over those harder to reach republicans that donald trump has alienated. but, you know, yet to be seen.
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>> krystal, not just the journal, national review writes this week, trump blames the media for making him look nuts by reporting the things he says, which are nuts. it's really caustic and personal this criticism from the press. >> well, they didn't like him to start with and now he's losing, losing badly. he's down in every swing state, every important battleground state across the country is going to have to put resources in places like georgia, arizona and utah, that no republican should have to. and he probably is going to bring the senate down with him. so i think it's justified for "the wall street journal" and other outlets to be looking at this and say, hey, buddy, right now you're losing and you're losing worse than mitt romney was ever down in the polls. >> yeah, but to suggest that he's not going to be on the ballot in november is just fantasy land. all right. so i'm constantly sort of struck by how some reporters, not commentators, not -- people who are reporters, the ways in which
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they describe donald trump. take a listen to this sound bite. >> why is the information flow on donald trump so negative? well, it's because the press, the country has never really seen somebody so mendacious -- >> what's that mean? >> telling lies. >> christina, so mendacious and so willing to tell lies. if you were still the editor, would you allow reporters to talk about the nominee like that? >> this is a trick position, our point is trick point as journalists. you should be able to say someone said something that is not true and that is something media is often criticized for. you allow someone to say something and don't counter attack it. it's something really reporters should be doing to all candidates. hillary clinton says things that are not 100% factual. donald trump says things not 100% factual -- >> okay, but 70% of his statements have been rated false. so that is a very different level than any other politician we've seen. he just makes stuff up. it's not normal run of the mill exaggeration.
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i think it's an inaccurate statement -- >> exactly. >> well, but i'm fine with saying candidate said this, it's not true, it's a lie. when you use words like mendacious, you are signaling you do not like the guy. christina, you're here in california, do you think new york pundits are going to lose? >> it's not just new york and d.c., right? the idea that there's an entire segment of america, at least 39% in some cases 45% that really likes donald trump. >> yes. >> and you can't forget that. you have to recognize that you are writing for everyone and not necessarily one specific audience. >> journalists obviously forgot that during the primaries when they all thought donald trump would lose. all right. thanks very much. after the break, why are so many celebrities here in l.a. sava savaging trump? and does it matter? and comedy central struggling, dropping larry wilmore, what's behind this debacle?
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mendacio debac . comedy central had a powerhouse late night lineup for years. trevor noah is drawing little attention, his daily show down about 4% in the ratings, and larry wilmore's was drawing less than half of colbert's ratings, and they pulled the plug. >> i'm your host for the next well, 29:31. >> kimer serafin is with us. can you say that was -- what's the right word, a failure? >> it's very hard to replace
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john stewart, and stephen colbert. such a high bar, and whether you like him from the left or the right or you continue, he had good ratings. >> forget about that. i think it's not working because they are not talked about or quoted their clips don't get much traction online, and they are not part of the conversation. wilmore told fast company that race, not the easiest subject to make jokes about. we tried our best. you have to find ways to be funny about it. >> it was so much about race. and john stewart, if you didn't like the criticism towards the right, he took aim at other people as well. >> occasionally. >> he did that famous thing when he went after cnn for the coverage of the plane. you could find something you liked about it. even wibill o'reilly.
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i think what you look for now -- >> he used the "n" word, and that didn't go over well or make him more famous. >> nowadays, you have to see what jimmy kimmel and jimmy fallon do. >> i understand some people think he was an important voice, but it's all box office. >> ratings were low, and nothing went viral. >> so many celebrities denounced trump. robert de niro said he is totally nuts, and martin sheen, called him scary and an empty-headed moron. why should people care what these celebrities think? >> this happens every year, and they usually support the democratic candidate. >> not always? >> it's usually a surprise -- >> not that he is not qualified.
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they are using moron skand nuts. >> i don't think if somebody hears a celebrity say this, they will not lose votes, but matters with getting attention. and trump himself is such a celebrity, he doesn't need one to get him attention. he gets it on his own. >> i wonder, don't they hurt their own careers because they are alienatiing half the audiene who might like the republican candidate? >> you say this every year, and then if you like the movie, you're going to go see the movie. so people may hold a grudge for a little while, and if you want to see the movie, you will. >> the hollywood -- as long as they buy the tickets, everything is good. >> put people in seats and you will see the movie. >> thank you very much. still to come, glocko is
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is up next. thank you. we begin the fox report on this sunday with details about a vicious killer that blew up a wedding. he was likely 12 to 14 years old according to the president of turkey, our ally who's asking for our help now. they are blaming islamic state savages for the bloodshed. if the terrorist were a boy or teenager it's a horrific reminder of the kind of reach the isis savages have. the united states is sending our vice president, joe biden, to the country tomorrow to talk terrorism. as the questions loom at this hour, is turkey turning in to a new front in the war against the islamic state? here's what we know, at least 51