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kelly file exclusive, wikileaks co-founder julian assange hinted toúodt megyn kelly that he'sq b sitting onñ some significant information about the democratic nominee. >> can you tell us how significant you believe it =é+ñ!)v""áñ i mean compare its significance to what we saw released by >> what's more there are new issues involving her private e-mail server. a judge now ordering the state department to release e-mails &÷ uncovered by thecfj fbi's investigation by next month. this all comes as we> ñ are learning just how far her team went to prevent her deleted e-mails from ever being
recovered. we begin with chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge reporting from washington. >> reporter: two sources who have read5>db÷ the fbi's investigative file say clinton's team used a technology called bleach fit toç [r deletev records. cybersecurity experts say this can permanentlyjszwç scramble the data. >> i >> reporter: last year in las vegas at one of her rare news conferences, hillary clinton seemed toy claim hxéignorance. >> did you try to wipe the whole server? >> i'm -- you [1=úñ i have no idea. that's why we turnedx >> reporter: the timeline is important. in august]8 2014, the benghazi select committee got e-ma8fyíz that showed former secretary clinton used a personal " account.
sandra? >> all right. catherine, thank v#ñyou. there is also some breaking news as hillary clinton's tenure at the state department is concerned. the aós.jú0 report tonight that mrs. clinton sea schedule from her tenure as secretary of state will not be released5)ñ by the government until after the november election. joining us now to react to all of this chris stirewalt is h-gtco on a friday night our fox news8pyññz÷+
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dominated this week fading a little bit atdo the end of tg week because whether she intended it or not hillary clinton by accusing donald trump of playing to prejudice and -2ao`9"zh$)lñ quote, alt-right that kind of:l ugliness always plays with the press. >> let's get a- back, chris stirewalt, because he has doubled down on her calling him a bigot. this back and forth that we have seen, where has that taken the race this week? >> so this is a gross race. ótáhish is a disgustingsçj presidential race. we have both major party candidates referring to each other as racists and bigots. this is why we see the nm 5s in the polls of the deep dissatisfaction across the broad electorate with what they'veél got. they're not happy, and the two-party these people, and they're not happy. all i can say is this. donald trump has successfully, to a ofm +xbpx allegations ofvg she says he's a bigot. he sayse]o she's a]
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woodward and bernstein. he's that big at this point. what could his october surprise be? he says it's significant, and he's a very understated guy, so i think you can countdown on that being huge. will it relate to e-mails? my guess is yes. we just heard about hillary clinton's e-mail serving being scrubbed with a bleach bit. i've represented many people charged with tampering with evidence and what she did puts them to shame. so my guess is it's going to have something to do with that. she trusts the people who deleted those 30,000 e-mails, but should she? could one of those people one of those lawyers, one of the people who deleted the e-mails end up being the huge wikileaks
sorgs source the deep throat of this campaign? i would not be surprised, but it's going to be big. >> bud, that being said what do you think julian assange's intentions are here? >> well i don't want to ascribe a motivation to him, but he says basically not going to investigate donald trump. what you heard him also say was that it wasn't a game-changer. he said it was significant. if it's more of the same it's not going to be very much. >> i heard you say he didn't reference trump. he has talked about trump. he says he has information about the gop nominee as well but he indicated it may not be as ref la tory as critics might hope. something related to his health or something, but he did say the trump campaign has a lot of things wrong with it. but as far as we can see, being russian agents is not one of them. so it's not that he's not talking about donald trump, but this does seem squarely focused on hillary clinton. >> sure it does. and i should say that, you know, donald trump donald trump has obviously latched onto this and he's trying to expose hillary clinton for covering something up. but, you know he's unbelievably
hypocritical. i mean if he were watching tonight, i'd like to ask him what are you hiding donald trump? why won't you release your tax returns? what ties to special interests and government do you have in you're somebody who hired someone who is essentially working for ukrainian -- >> let's get back to what julian assange says he has, and that's significant material on hillary clinton. david, should hillary clinton be worried so close to the election? >> of course she should be. i mean she turned -- initially, she said those 33,000 e-mails were about her daughter's wedding and her yoga classes, but they were scrubbed with a particular device the bleach bit, which apparently destroys them completely or or did it? we don't know at this point. my guess is -- [ overlapping voices ] >> when you get rid of e-mails, you get rid of them. >> hold on. when you compare what she did -- >> are you wearing a tin foil hat right now. >> whoa whoa whoa. when you compare the clinton foundation scandal, when you compare these 33,000 e-mails
which she deleted and we know now had nothing to do with weddings or yoga classes to donald trump's tax returns, seriously -- >> yeah because what is donald trump hiding? >> hang on. [ overlapping voices ] >> whoa whoa whoa. >> final thoughts. >> i think donald trump has a lot to hide and to be accountable for. just this week we found out even though he's been railing against china for the whole campaign he's actually doing business with bank of china. so what else do we not know about that we need to find out about donald trump? >> all right. >> assange is focusing on clinton because the entire body of the mainstream media is going against donald trump. >> there's more information out there about hillary clinton than there is about donald trump. >> david, you ended up getting last word. i'm going to leave it there. happy friday night to both of you. thanks for joining us. up next the always lively dinesh d'souza is here to give
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accusations of racism and bigotry continue to fly between donald trump and hillary clinton. earlier today the gop nominee delivered a direct response to recent attacks tying him to white supremacists by posting a new ad accusing mrs. clinton of being, quote, the real predator. >> they are often the kinds of kids that are called super predators. no conscience. no empathy. we can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have
to bring them to heel. >> you called out president clinton for defending secretary clinton's use of the term "super predator" back in the '90s when she supported the crime bill. why did you call him out? >> because it was a racist term and everybody knew it was a racist term. >> no conscience. >> it's a very well thought out crime bill that is both smart and tough. >> no empathy.
>> because it was a racist term and everybody knew it was a racist term. >> clinton herself isn't backing down on the issue. this time mocking her opponent's outreach to the african-american community in
yet another ad. >> you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. look at my african-american over here. >> trump management was charged with discriminating against african-americans and breaking federal law. >> i have a great relationship with the blacks. i've always had a great relationship with the blacks. >> what the hell do you have to lose? >> joining me now is dinesh d'souza, documentary filmmaker and author of hillary's america, the secret history of the democratic party. what do you make of hillary clinton's claim, da nesh that donald trump is racist? this week she said he has a long history of racial discrimination and he built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia.
>> yeah i think that this is -- all these accusations against trump are complete foolishness. now, trump has made some insensitive remarks, but insensitivity is not the same thing as bigotry. >> like what? >> his remarks for example, about calling that fellow a mexican. he's an american of mexican descent. it would be like calling me an indian. that may be crude or foolish, but it's certainly not bigoted. >> so trump is fighting right back. he's called her a bigot. he's been asked about that. he's doubled down on it and called her a bigot a couple times this week. he said she is not doing anything to help these communities. she's not doing anything or her party, he said to help african-american minority communities. >> well he's right about that. but i think there's a deeper history here. hillary clinton is essentially accusing trump of being a sort of white supremacist, and she's trotted out two or three rag tag guy who's have endorsed trum. now, he hasn't endorsed them.
they've endorsed him. but the democratic party has a deep and ugly history of not only being involved with the ku klux klan but starting the ku klux klan. it was woodrow wilson who revived the clan in the early part of the 20th century. fdr nominated hugo black, a long time member of the ku klux klan to the supreme court. the democratic party started the klan. it sustained the klan. the tens of thoufds people killed by the chan were mostly killed by democrats. donald trump has nothing to do with any of this yet the democrats are trying to taint him with association to an organization that belongs to them. >> you do talk about that a lot and your film certainly sheds light on democrats, the party of corruption that is associated with slavery, lynchings, the kkk. your film highlights a lot of this. where do you see this going? the het the rhetoric on racism by both
candidates heating up this week. how is that changing this race? >> well i think trump has a great opportunity. first of all, he has an opportunity to turn the tables on hillary. hillary's case against him relies on pretty much one guy, david duke. now, when david duke claimed to be a republican the whole republican party repudiated him. contrast this with harry byrd a long time member of the klan and yet byrd was called the conscience of the senate by the democrats. hillary called him her mentor. when he died in 2010, bill clinton went to the funeral and actually said you can't be too hard on byrd because you had to be in the klan in order to advance in the democratic party. >> you're referencing robert byrd there. we want to get reaction to everything you just said and more. da nesh da due za thank you for joining us tonight. i'll start with you first, nomiki what did you make of dinesh's comments just now? >> that's some curious logic that he's using about hillary clinton.
i think there's several cases over.35, 40-year history of donald trump, all the way going back to when he was trying to open up a casino in bridgeport, connecticut, and he said that the indians don't look like indians, so they shouldn't be justified with their natdive american exemptions from taxes. he was being sued for not renting to african-americans thmpt is a man with 40 years of history against minority groups. it's not just about david duke. >> all right. matthew, is nomiki's argument fair? >> i think it is fair when you look at donald trump's history and some of the rhetoric he's used on the campaign. but i don't think that's really what's going on here. i think both candidates are trying to kind of solidify their bases. and donald trump's minority outreach is actually about trying to maintain hold of the republican party, which is made up of a lot of white voters. what we're seeing in the polls right now is white voters with college degrees are really
running away from donald trump precisely because of this issue of race and prejudice. and so i think a lot of trump's minority outreach is to get those voters back in the fold. that's why clinton is doubling down. >> but, matthew, what do you make this week of this very direct appeal that he has made to african-american voters saying what do you have to lose? essentially painting a picture of are you happy now? are you better off now than you were eight years ago? do you want more of the same? >> well, the same whatsaying what do you have to lose is different from saying are you better off now than you were eight years ago. when you look at the reporting, you look at the reactions, many found the comment patronizing. it's one thing to say my policies are going to help minorities more than say, the democratic policies are. that's not exactly how donald trump puts it. so in this sense, he's kind of shooting himself in the foot. his larger problem is he's not running at the head of a unified party, and this is a problem that he's been struggling with
continually. so before he can engen to think about actually attracting the votes of minorities, he's going to have to try to put together that republican coalition, which right now is fracturing. >> nomiki is there anything that donald trump can do to extend his reach with minorities at this point? >> no absolutely not. i think this is not about him extending his reach to minorities. i think it's about him thinking about what happens after this election. he's solidifying this alt-right community, bringing in media executives to solidify them and that is not a base of voters that's going to win the election. if he wanted to win the election he's be reaching out to women, independents. >> i think he is. the message with women that resonates and he's talking about the economy. matthew, as far as they're being a new conservatism this is something that you talk a lot about. what are you seeing on that front? >> well i think that trump's move putting mr. bannon the ceo of breitbart, in charge of his campaign as a chairman position
and i think he's definitely getting the support of a lot of these online critics that are called the alt-right. they see this as their moment. trump's not really for them but they're for trump. but it's given hillary clinton a great way to kind of drive a wedge between trump and those college-educated white voters that he needs to bring back into the republican coalition if he has any hope of winning this election. >> all right. those ads are out there. nomiki you saw the new clinton ad. do you see those as effective? >> i think it is effective because it reinforces the message that the stakes are high in this election. and while there's massive voter registration and outreach and organization between the african-american community and latino community, expanding the states like georgia, and arizona, which were never on the map for democrats, it's important that they remember the stakes are high. the choice is between a unified big tent democratic party and donald trump, who represents a very extreme right-wing of the republican party.
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immigration over the course of the past week. trump largely built his campaign on the promise that he would not compromise on the issue of deporting some 11 million people in the u.s. illegally. but on tuesday, he was telling fox news he might be willing to quote, soften his plan. >> is there any part of the law that you might be able to change that would accommodate those people that contribute to society, have been law-abiding, have kids here? >> there certainly can be a softening because we're not looking to hurt people. we want people. we have some great people in this country. we have some great, great people in this country. so but we're going to follow the laws of this country. >> the so-called shift, however, only lasting 48 hours as last night he was once again saying those illegal immigrants have to go. >> there is no path to legalization. >> you're talking about paying back taxes on hannity. >> unless the people if they come back in then they can start paying taxes.
but there is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and come back. >> chief political correspondent carl cameron is live in las vegas with more tonight. hey, carl. >> reporter: hi sandra. well mr. trump has left the strip and his trump hotel here in vegas, and he's headed up to lake tahoe for an event with the nevada republican party. it was originally supposed to be closed. there was talk this morning that they might open it up and allow him to make some marks that we could have a press pool camera go and shoot it but they decided at the last minute they were going to keep the doors closed as was their original plan. as to mr. trump's immigration plan and what some have called this flip-flop, there may be some distincts and some differences that haven't really deny delved into deeply enough. trump said for the better part of a year and a half really from the very beginning of his campaign that illegal aliens undocumented immigrants all had to go back out of the country, that they simply could not be here.
and then he said softening that for folks who are law abiding, have been here for a while and are contributing to society as you played. so last night when trump appeared to reverse himself, it's a little bit different. what he said was anybody who wants legalization in other words to be in the country and be a documented immigrant, would have to go back to their home nation and then apply for citizenship, come to the u.s. and go through the process. those two things are not actually mutually exclusive. in fact there could very well be undocumented immigrants who decide that they don't believe it and they're not going to go back to their home country and just remain in the country as illegal immigrants. that has -- that creates sort of another gap and another question as to what mr. trump's ultimate immigration proposal will be. what about those folks who won't self-deport? what about those folks who won't go home and try to come back? how will they be dealt with? now, trump said today that on day one, very quickly they would get all the criminals, all of
the folks who are wreaking havoc that he talks about criminals who are killers and drug dealers and gang cartel members, et cetera et cetera. he says he'll round them up and get them out very very quickly. for those who don't self-deport, there is still very much an open question and he did answer one question today. in an interview for greta van susteren's show he said he will have a comprehensive immigration policy speech sometime in the next couple weeks. so we'll get the details. in the past when people say comprehensive immigration, it usually meant amnesty. trump says there will be no amnesty. >> carl cameron, thank you. joining me now, former gop presidential candidate dr. ben carson is here. good evening to you, sir. >> hi sandra. >> all right. so a big part of the news this week was donald trump doubling down on his claim that hillary clinton is a bigot. you have some advice for donald trump on that front. you have suggested that he do what about that discussion?
>> well you know i have advice for everybody in the political arena, and that is the issues that are facing us as a nation are extremely serious. and let's not get diverted into a name-calling contest and who can call the other one the worst name. whether, you know it's legitimate or not, the title doesn't matter. what does matter is the fact that we're approaching $20 trillion in debt. that's going to destroy the lives of people who are coming after us. what does matter is the fact that we have all of these terrorists who want to destroy us that our school systems are being, you know jeopardized. >> there are the obvious serious issues that need to be discussed by both candidates. but it seems that the real issues get muddied with this back and forth, particularly this week over racism. what would you say to donald
trump? i know that you've got his ear, about that? >> well the key thing is i can fully understand why hillary would do it because she doesn't want to discuss the issues. she doesn't have any reasonable policies no way to deal with the deficits and with terrorism and with the prison system with education, all these things. she has no good answers. trump has a lot of good answers. so i would say let's deal with the things that have almost 70% of the american people dissatisfied with the direction of the country. talk about those things in some detail. when he does that he does very well. his poll numbers start going up and i think that's really where -- >> his poll numbers with african-americans and minority communities, obviously hispanics as well they still just don't look good and they favor hillary clinton. and he has made a direct appeal and he has made a big outreach this week to the
african-american and minority communities, saying what do you have to lose? what did you make of that, and do you think that that helped at all, his strategy there? >> well what he was really saying is that you know the policies of the democratic party over the last 40 or 50 years have not resulted in a very good situation, particularly in a lot of our inner cities. and if you want to make america great again, the entire foundation of america has to be great, including our inner cities. so in order to do that we've got to spiff up the educational system get people school choice and vouchers. you know we need to look at the penal system and how we're going to deal with that. you know jobs bringing back jobs again. all of those are the kinds of things that will strengthe inner city. and we have not seen that over the last few decades. >> all right. dr. ben carson always good to speak to you, sir. thank you for being here. >> you too. thank you. >> joining me now to react is
democratic analyst and fox news contributor julie roginsky. julie, here we are, state of the race. 73 days to go. where are we? >> good question. well we are empeerically speaking at a point where donald trump has a lot of room to make up. hillary clinton in the national poll is about ten points up according to today's quinnipiac poll. she's aleading according to poll averages in all the swing states that trump must win in order to win. so empeerically speaking he's got a big row to hoe which is why his immigration policy is so puzzling to me. he's essentially taking focus groups. you saw sean hannity's forum the other night, asking his viewers what he should do on immigration. we're a little far away from the beginning of his campaign to be able to do that kind of thing. he laid out a plan. he went back on that plan. then he doubled down on the original plan. i don't really know where he is at this point. >> let's talk hillary clinton because we know she's taking a bit of a breather this week. she's sitting this week out.
>> she is? >> and most of next week as well. she's on a little vacation time. ted cruz is tim kaine is out there. yes, she is. it's interesting because at a time when we know more e-mail stuff is coming out. has this been her, at politico wrote this week trying to let the clock run out? she's got a five and a half point lead in the latest real clear politics lead. >> i don't think she was sitting out that speech yesterday. i thought it was incredibly effective, not just in doubling down for her base but trying to appeal to those republicans that have questions about trump and about his temperament. she laid out a very co-heerntd i thought, specific outline as to why those people should not necessarily look at trump as a potential savior for the republican party. but to some extent you have a good point. she is ahead. it's hers to lose. first do no harm is basically where she is in this campaign right now. >> i don't know about that. rnc chairman reince priebus, he's made a prediction that things could still turn around by labor day.
>> that's his job. he's got to spin for his candidate. i get it. >> great to see you. thanks for being here tonight. just days after rnc chairman reince priebus predicted donald trump would overtake hillary clinton in the polls by labor day, new numbers from one poll show an uphill climb for mr. trump. so can the gop nominee begin a dramatic turnaround in just the next ten days? a fair and balanced debate about that next. ♪ there's no one road out there. no one surface... no one speed... no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all. the mercedes-benz c-class. five driving modes let you customize the steering shift points, and suspension to fit the mood you're in... and the road you're on. the 2016 c-class. lease the c300 for $369 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. man: dear mr. danoff my wife and i are now participating
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continues to be measured continues to be prepared consistent like he has been. he's had a great week. i think those polls are going to narrow and i do think that donald trump can do that and i do think the polls are going to narrow by labor day and even potentially him getting back ahead like he was after the convention. >> that was rnc chair reince priebus earlier this week on "the kelly file," saying donald trump's slide in the polls behind hillary clinton will reverse within the next two weeks. so far, we've seen the opposite. a new quinnipiac poll putting mrs. clinton above 50% for the first time and sees her lead increase to ten points. that poll stretching clinton's lead to six points in the average of all recent national polls.
so can mr. trump turn the tide? boris epshteyn is a trump campaign senior advisor. anita mcbride is a former assistant to president george w. bush. anita, you've worked in four presidential administrations. what do you make of reince priebus saying there's still time? we're going to turn things around as soon as labor day. that's a big promise. >> well labor day is next week and that's a pretty high bar to set in such a short period of time particularly when you're up against such a vast network that the clintons have. and they've been running -- she's been running for this position for years and years and years. and the fund-raising -- just look at the fund-raising that she did this past week in hollywood and then in nantucket and martha's vineyard. it's a tough bar to meet. but, you know the chairman is saying what he has to say and putting confidence in republican voters that there's a path here. >> yeah and i keep saying that hillary clinton, bore isz, is taking some time off this week
and a little bit of next. but she is still fund-raising and she still is attending those finance meetings to make sure their strategy is sound there. we've got 73 days to go. what is it going to take for reince priebus and his party to turn things around and let that trump campaign shine? what is it going to take? >> first of all, as far as the polls go the quinnipiac poll is an outlier. the reuters poll we're down by 12 just a week ago, now only down by five. so the quinnipiac is an outlier. >> right now the real clear politics average, you're looking at a six-point lead for hillary clinton. let's talk battleground states. >> that afternoon is over 24 days. >> okay. but that being said that's what we have to work off of. >> okay. >> let's talk battleground states. how is he doing there? >> absolutely fine. florida is about tied. ohio is extremely close, and north carolina is now from being down about five or six points we're ether up by two in one poll and tied in the cnn poll.
doing absolutely fine in north carolina. you go to pennsylvania and we will be competitive in pennsylvania. that poll will tighten. it's a binary choice for the voters between hillary clinton, who is a lifelong failure, who has to take two weeks off the campaign trail with 73 days to go and donald trump, who is bringing fresh ideas on the economy, on defense, on national security on immigration. something hillary clinton is simply not doing. and the voters will make the right choice and elect donald trump on november 8th. >> anita, final word to you. can trump seize on this moment right now? >> i think there is an opportunity to do that. there used to be in the old days, there was an october surprise. with this rationce there's a surprise every day. and this trove of e-mails that may come out now that mrs. clinton boxed herself in today on the morning joe show and said that there's, you know -- there is no connection to the clinton foundation. the clinton foundation
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noon i'm outnumbered on fox news. that's it for "the kelly file." i'm sandra smith. sean hannity is here live tonight. he's up next. thank you. thanks and welcome to this special edition of "hannity." it's been just one day since hillary clinton released a deplorable political ad attempting to link donald trump to the ku klux klan. but now trump is responding in a huge way with two brand-new ads of his own, including one video reminding voters how the clintons may have employed -- against barack obama. watch this. >> when we arrived in south carolina yesterday, this was the state newspaper. clinton camp hits obama, attacks painful for bla