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would have been a lot easier. that's about it for us tonight. tune in every night at 8:00 for the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink. a "the five" starts right now. ♪ >> hello, everyone, i am dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, jesse watters, and greg gutfeld. it is 9:00 in new york city and this is "the five." as the mounting threat from north korea continues to grow, president trump is putting forward a new strategy telling bloomberg news would be honored to meet with kim jong-un under the right circumstances. many analysts have criticized mr. trump's openness. then candidate barack obama received a far friendly reception when asked about a similar idea during a debate in 2007. >>ld would you be willing to met
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separately without precondition duringur the first year of your administration in washington or anyone else with the leaders of iran, syria, venezuela, cuba, north korea in order to bridge the gaps? >> i would.e the reason is this. the notion that not talking to countries is punishment to them which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration is ridiculous. >> listen to what president trump said earlier today about the danger our troops face north -- from north korea. >> how safe are our troops along the militarized zone and our allies? how safe are they with some of the defense systems that we have provided? >> nobody is safe. who is safe? the guy has nuclear weapons.ov i would like to say they are safe. 28,000 troops are right there. nobody is safe. we are probably not safe over here.
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if he gets the long-range missiles, we are not safe either. >> earlier we had jack keane commenting on whether he thinks president trump would meet with kim jong un. >> i think that's always a possibility with this presidentd he puts huge amounts -- his his skill set and his ability to make a deal. they have nuclear weapons to preserve the regime. they have accomplished that. what president trump is trying to get them to stand down from is advancing the weaponization of ballistic missiles. that is what he is trying to dot get them comfortable. say look, we are not coming after you are going to stay in power as long as your people are wanting to keep you in power. i don't know if that relaxes kim or not, frankly. >> greg, a meeting with the president would be something that might lift him up. it might give him attention or it could be a way to scare the chinese into thinking they need to do more in order to help us so we don't actually meet with him one on one. what do you think the strategy is? >> i don't think it's a new strategy for donald trump. he turns unpredictability into a
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he starts with a pattern. -- starts with a compliment, smart cookie. you don't have to be smart to be a tyrant. as a dictator you can just kill your enemies. it is smart dealing with adversaries in a republic. he will complement you, insult you, complement you. he did this from everyone from ben carson to mitt romney. he is a salesman. everything is up for negotiation, including who you negotiate with. people trust you if they trust the negotiator. you can say well, you didn't like it when president obama went on the apology tour. when he appeased around the worldas but it's because we didn't trust him as a negotiator whereas trump, who has the same idea, you go, i think you can probably wrap kim around his y finger if he wanted to -- maybe by the end of a meeting with kim, he will be wearing a red hat and saying, lock her up.
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>> that's possible. what's different from 2007 is that the situation is different and more dire. the weaponry is advanced. i guess we don't exactly know what the mental state is of kim jong un -- but possibly flattery, in terms of saying he would be honored to meet with him, might be a way to come to the table? >> obviously he does think in an unconventional way that people aren't used to. the way that he handle things, whether it's negotiating business deals, trade, or other things. obviously this would be unprecedented and you don't want to put the american president in no position that would be any kind of security threat or rest. he said we don't know 100% everything about this guy in terms of who we are dealing with any his instability. nevertheless, i think it's good to at least float it out there and show the world they are, willing to have talks and discuss this.d you are not somebody that wants
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to come in and drop bombs. you are striving to achieve peace and stability in a geopolitical area that has been really troubled for a long timet as it relates to president obama, at the time of making those statements, you are absolutely right. a lot has changed and really escalated in terms of the level of national security threats to the united states. i think that president obama would be the first person to say that, because that is one of the most important things that he has stressed in his meeting with president trump. >> the media really just accepted that president obama would be the hope and change that they were looking for. and maybe that was why they didn't criticize him as much. what do you think? >> not only did he say he was going to meet with the iranian leader without any preconditions but he shook hands with hugo chavez, he saw a baseball game with castro in cuba. i don't know if trump is just getting caught up -- he thinks
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he can manhandle people but i think he's an "america first" president, whereas obama thinks , people think he's going to cave to the adversaries of people trust president trump to negotiate more effectively. like you said, there are risks. when he put an american president's prestige on the line and our credibility and you get in a negotiating situation and you come out with nothing, then you look bad. it weakens us. it bolsters his credibility kim's, at home and internationally. if anyone can do it, it can be president trump. >> bob, you have a lot of different experiences on the international stage. was north korea a factor back then, in the 1800s? >> it was 1823. >> i know. in the '70s. [laughter] >> he might as well be
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negotiating with ronald mcdonald. those plastic things. this guy is a tyrant. he's a thug. the idea that the presidentan of the united states would go and talk to this dirty, ugly man who has killed people left and right, put them in gulags. human rights abuses. what are we talking about? he's the president of the united states. i don't like donald trump but i would like him a lot less if he did something like that. i if this happens, other companies trying to develop nuclear weapons. they could get rewarded too. >> it has already been happening with iran. >> and we will give you a lot of money. and you will cheat on us, and we will be okay with it. >> you're okay with giving this guy a stage. >> you know what i think it's interesting? there's a little bit of hypocrisy going on with the left. the left should love trump. he's willing to sit down with anybody. i think he is a closet dove.
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he doesn't want to use force unless it's a sure win. he's less of a hawk than hilary would be. >> i took this line -- from "the weekly standard." i know you love it when i quote. >> what about the federalist? they are jealous. >> preemption is easier than post-emption. >> i don't know what that means. it went way over my head. >> i don't get it. >> preemption, it's a play onay words -- prevent him from getting their weapons rather than dealing with it afterwards. >> oh, my god. >> denuclearization. you should be praising president trump for talking. using diplomacy. >> we are not all for denuclearization.
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some people in the white supremacy movement don't like it. >> how did we do to that? >> we are going to do another segment on a bunch of people and they're going to be running around and you're going to call them democrats. china is -- they are trying to get china to play a major role in this. can china do that? i'm not so sure they can. if you are china and if you try expand your geopolitical reachwi in the pacific, already you're talking to singapore and thailand and the philippines. they probably think it's a pretty good idea for the united states to focus on north korea.hi the rest of these places, they don't focus on. >> in the media, we have always struggled with the things donald trump says. you end up finding yourselfe
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trump-splaining or going, i don't get it. but he has this rare gift -- under the right circumstances. saying certain things. it essentially negates. >> what would those circumstances be? >> hanging upside down? >> don't they spend like years thinking about where to put the water and who talks first and who shakes your hand? these things take years.ak >> a great book on that. we will give kimberly marlon fitzwater. it was about all the summits between reagan and gorbachev. they did spend a lot of time talking about where they would sit. >> one thing for sure, kim jong un is not leaving there. w so donald trump would have to go there.e. that's what i'm saying, they ars not going to put the presidentum in a security risk situation like that. they can facetime each other? >> the wonders of technology. >> everybody wants to change the bad boy.
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it's like sharon osbourne meeting ozzie. that's what they are trying to do.. you might not be the person that can change the little guy. >> ahead, president trump chose to spend his 100th day in office with the people. p p instead of the press at the white house correspondents' dinner, and it made for some interesting counter programming. greg has the highlights. oh, how waso good!en house? did you apply? oh, i'll do it later today. your credit score must be amazing. my credit score? credit karma. it's free. that's great! um hm. just whip bam boom, it's done. that apartment is mine! credit karma. give yourself some credit. and together, you had the kid of your dreams. now you can put them in the car of your dreams...
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♪ >> saturday was the white house correspondents dinner versus donald trump's rally. it was like king kong versus godzilla.nd [roaring] >> i just like that sound. >> tonight we must recognize there are threats to freedom here in the united states. we must remain vigilant. the world is watching. >> i could not possibly be more thrilled than to be more than 100 miles away from washington, spending my evening with all of
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you and with a much, much larger crowd and much better people. right? >> what a juxtaposition. a tuxedos versus truckers. the media said there were no winners, meaning they lost. trump's rally wasn't anything new except for one key live. >> a large groupne of hollywood actors -- [boos] >> and washington media are consoling each other in a hotel ballroom in our nation's capital right now. >> and then the media proved them right by consoling themselves in a hotel ballroom right now.
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>> we cannot ignore the rhetoric that has been employed by the president about who we are and what we do. freedom of the press is a building block of our democracy. >> the applause. afterward, the night's comic ripped on trump for not showing up. he ripped what if we hadn't shown up? fox news for showing up. >> we have to address the elephant in the room. the leader of our country is not here. and that it's because he lives in moscow. he has a very long flight. the other guy is in pennsylvania because he can't take a joke. >> you have to be more perfect now, more than ever. this event is about celebrate in the first amendment. >> the man who tweets everything that enters his head refuses to acknowledge the amendment that allows him to do it. in four hours, donald trump will
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be tweeting about how bad nicki minaj bombed at this dinner. and he will be doing it completely sober. >> mocking president trump for not showing up is like a hunter complaining there aren't anyng ducks when you are surrounded by them. you just choose not to shoot those ducks. someone should tell him it's not trump canceling campus speeches or local parades, it's the regressive left. if the media calls trump out for making other plans, they should train their sights on the true oppressors.lsls enough about trump threatening speech. those applause penguins around those dinner tables haven't shut up since trump won. while you avoid those in your
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midst who wish to silence all opposition, you rag on president trump. that sad contradiction might be the biggest joke of the night. >> greg, we are ready to go to the 12:00 turnaround time. >> i'm sorry, did i take some time out of your response? >> my response? my response, i know you were loving that crowd in pennsylvania. >> it was brilliant. if you wish you thought of it, bob. >> i don't think it was much of anything. >> if people mock you, you hold a counter event and steal their thunder. >> you said that they rip on president trump for coming or not coming but the whole dinner is a roast about the president -- whoever the president is. and they have a chance to respond.ho >> i think it was brilliant that he said screw it, i'm not going. >> he said he would go next year and did about 14 interviews with all of those reporters. n >> he didn't give them a chance
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and here is the deal. that night, we could have covered it. it wasn't that exciting, it was boring. >> we did your show instead. >> it was much more exciting. >> trump at his typical worst. when this guy get something done, something solidly done, then we will talk about his great strategics. s >> gorsuch, drilling, those things didn't happen. i think he should've spoke out more about the real oppression against free speech. that was my only problem. >> i wasn't there. i'm not sure i was invited this time. i was on vacation. >> i think you were mentioned. >> really? i read the transcript of some of the jokes. i thought it was funny on paper. and then i watched the delivery. it wasn't that funny.t these jokes go over everyone's head because if it's a
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republican president, the democratic president, i don't take too much stock in it. but to claim that you are a victim, no one takes you seriously. other countries -- journalists got thrown in jail and these people get thrown parties. i think people over there take it very seriously. >> they don't care. >> they love when trump -- >> he is beating up on the press, that's the most popular thing the president does. >> what does kimberly think? >> do you want to ask me a question, greg? >> they had a focus on journalism for once. i think he made it better. >> polling numbers showed that
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most americans disprove and distrust the media. there's no time for self-satisfaction or smugness. i think they've completely just. ignored his warning. people aren't so thrilled with him. they also are not loving the media. that's been a big thing in the coverage. it fell a little flat and people were drawn to the trump rally because it was great showmanship. it was trump at his best, having one of his rallies with people that support he took ownership of the situation. for him to go next year, i think that would be good.ow to go with the tradition, he made his point. he owned the night. for him, i think it was a win. he did things on his own term. >> you are assuming he would be around at this time next year. >> what are you insinuating? >> that he would be impeached. >> i would insinuate --
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>> where is he going to be? >> they have elections every four years. >> it was a great joke. i thought he did a pretty good job except for this one blind spot, when he said he found out president trump was president it was like walking into panera bread and seeing that your high school teacher was working there. like, what happened? >>ke he did to make fun of the mediaa. they were saying you dropped the ball because they were missing half of america. >> they jump to the shark. >> re-banded in 2017. >> we must move on. up next, more climate change hysteria from hollywood and others on the left. leo dicaprio among those marching in the street over the weekend, to convince the world that the planet is in peril. when "the five" returns.
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boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink. be up for it ♪ >> here is some breaking news. some liberals are really upset about climate change. on saturday, tens of thousands took the streets of washington, d.c. al gore and leonardo dicaprio were there. some people have canceled their subscriptions to "the new york times," because of an op-ed challenging thed certainty of climate change. he believes that man hasha contributed to rising temperatures throughout the years. greg, your favorite subject. >> nobody likes assumptions challenged even in their comfy sweaters.
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there is a difference here. he is not a skeptic. he is a lukewarmer. he believes the climate predictions and models are often wrong. he's saying it's getting warmer and it's something we shouldld keep a careful eye on, that it's not extreme on any side yet they throw him out because they demand lockstep. they can't tolerate even a mildly different opinion. at least we have liberals on fox news. the viewers can get angry at bob but they also love bob. i read twitter, they love bob. we have different opinions and as angry as ever viewers get over certain opinions, they come back because they know we are human. >> dana, what did you make of this outrage? >> i have been a reader of him for many years.
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this was his first column at "the new york times." he really knows how to make an entrance. people wanting to cancel their subscriptions because he challenged their safe space, that is quite a feat. he also if you are a lukewarmer but you questions the solution. could also say i guess it's happening but should we spend a trillion dollars a year and not get any results from it? that apparently is off-limits. >> imagine, you are a lukewarmer. it doesn't sound very appealing. >> i am a lukewarmer. at the left says they love diversity but not opinions. they left says they love tolerance but they don't tolerate conservatives.e they riot or shut everything down. they try to shut down fox news. they riot on the streets of berkeley. remember those democrats inn wisconsin?
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they ran across state lines so they didn't have to vote for the budget. i think you are seeing a bunchs of crybabies and whiners. they are treating conservativest like a virus. >> i sit next to you all the time, how do you think i feel? editorial editor of "the new york times," he is a friend of mine. the head of "the atlantic", went over to "the new york times." there does have to be more of this middle debate about facts.. he's not a diehard liberal, he believes very strongly in facts. what he's doing here is saying this guy has something to say. a lot of people agree with him. a lot of people think i don't know all the facts, man is responsible for some of this but beyond that, what can you say? i don't know what the answer is. >> the executive editor said it
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didn't we learn from this past election that our goal should be to understand different views? that's one of the reasons they brought him onto the opinion side of "the new york times." >> now he is there. he has made quite a splash, a lukewarm splash. give leonardo dicaprio credit.ui he sat down with the president and discussed issues, much like al gore did. i think that's very positive in terms of being able to engage the dialogue when you don't see the enthusiasm coming from the left usually. they don't like it or agree with it. they don't want to deal with it. >> i question -- they want our money. you are talking about a trillion dollars a year over a century. $100 trillion. you could cure starvation and so many diseases. if you could end terrorism with
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a fraction of $100 trillion paid -- what leonardo dicaprio wants to do and his apostles is use that money based on faulty climate models and predictions that may increase the temperature a slight degree which may or may not in fact be beneficial. it's insane. >> on both sides, we will reach a critical mass and say the balance here says this. this is the amount of money necessary to deal with that. we will never sit on $1 trillion. >> you would agree therece are areas of more pressing media concern. >> clean water. >> clean fuel. >> donald trump was president. i think there are a lot of more pressing issues. >> far left protesters going wild around the world on may day. we will tell you what they are demanding, when "the five" comes right back.
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♪ >> today is may 1st, the day every president since dwight eisenhower has proclaimed as loyalty day.. it's more commonly known as may day, when the left mobilizes tol rally for workers rights. hundreds of thousands of demonstrators took the streets earlier to rally in cities like new york, chicago and l.a. overseas, things got out of control. [yelling] >> so, kimberly, i believe if these protests come to this side
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of the ocean, i think it will help president trump because the more people see this type of out-of-control behavior, the more it hurts democrats. do you agree? >> i do agree. we have the proof and evidence, from the last american election that we just experienced. when you saw people acting out of control and committing acts of violence, totally lawless and disrespecting public property, disrespecting small businesses and looting. it's awful. nobody wants to see that. throwing fire at the police. it is completely not only just uncivilized but illegal behavior. i think it just strengthens the president's position and served him well in terms of the electorate. >> it plays into the law and order greg, how much of these people have legitimate policy beefs about policy and wages? or how much of it is just wanting to burn stuff?
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>> it's essentially become a celebration of failure, saluting movements and beliefs -- thatss are history's losing propositions. if you want to remember may day, look at venezuela. people are dying due to fake revolutions. may day is short for "may i ruin your day?" you have people shouting at you while you are trying to get to work to feed your kids. who takes a personal day off at this? no, you go to the beach with their kids. clearly they don't have jobs. >> maybe that's why they are protesting. they don't have jobs. >> i'm not sure all of them are. >> i don't think that these t types of riots are likely to happen here for a couple of reasons. like in paris, the unemployment rate for youth in paris is unbelievable. they have a very activist left
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that is much more organized than ours because even had one make the cut off for the runoff inin france. then in turkey, they are separating from a major political crisis with a t president who has turned a dictator, who just won a noncredible election. basically, their freedoms are being stripped away. he is punishing and jailing journalists. they have much more severe problems in countries like that. i don't think president trump has to worry about that coming anytime soon. >> why can't you guys behave yourselves? >> i had a feeling i would get that question. did you notice that what you wanted to happen -- those protests, these producers can't find anything like that.ap 2014, 2010. >> that was may day!
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>> that is not from today. >> yes, it is. >> that is a huge -- >> it's from today. >> wait a second. starting to riot, i think that's important. when somebody has a big crowd and he says okay, throw them out. if you get a bill from the police, i will pay for the lawyer. that was president trump who said that. if this happened today -- do you have evidence that this is true? >> after every single tea party, when the left starts getting wild, george soros is nowhere to be found. >> are you saying this is fake news? >> the other thing too is hollywood has a number of shows portraying dystopian futures. "handmaid's tale." >> what is "dystopian"?
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>> the opposite of "utopian." this could happen here, "the handmaid's tale." "marvel's shield" show. with the real dystopias happening now in certainrb countries, that we can just turn on the tv -- venezuela is an actual dystopia. look at the reality of the socialist hell. they look at america and they say nothing is happening. >> bob is going to be apologizing to the producers up ahead. the left is looking for a miracle to find a 2020 candidate to go up against donald trump. could mark zuckerberg be their answer? we will tell you what the billionaire is up to, next. ♪ liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance
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♪ >> nope, no apologies. mark zuckerberg started facebook and now will he be launching something bigger? a run for the presidency. over the weekend, he visited four states that were won by donald trump. >> i work for a very wealthy philanthropist in california,
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90% of americans use his product. >> the more i liked him. the more i was inspired by him. >> we will see how inspired w yu are in four years. one of the things the producer said about this terribly biased staff -- they don't even have a candidate for president -- >> who do they have? >> anybody who wins.- >> biden? >> there are a lot of people. all you have to do is win. look, that's the biggest joke of all if you like donald trump. >> he's your president now. >> i tell you --
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>> what's the question? >> do you think trump is unbeatable and 2020? >> i think anybody is beatable, but i don't think mark zuckerberg is the man to do it.e the guy doesn't have a personality. he is brilliant. and a billionaire. i think everyone is jealous now. he is out there testing theis waters. zuckerberg, i don't even know what his voice sounds like. i just see him shaking hands with the pope.e. >> he's in a unique position to take advantage of his platform. they have a tremendous amount of information, whether you're liberal, moderate.e. all your personal information, what you like it, what you dislike. it could all be put into the voting algorithms. >> that's a very good point. the more you learn about voters and targeting them, it's amazing.m, >> he has that advantage. >> let me cut off the zuckerberg discussion. he won't make it. >> i don't think he wants to run for president..
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>> you don't think democrats have anybody that could run? >> i didn't say that. you even thought joe biden, he gave a speech in new hampshire in front of the democrats. elizabeth warren is out with a book. she might give it the old college try. guy?anken, who is my he is a book coming out this month. they are all trying. >> a franken-warren ticket would be the best ticket. >> who is that guy from texas? >> ted cruz? >> ted cruz. >> my man teddy cruz. >> they have to do what they plan on doing. nominate oprah, she wins. i'm not kidding.e get to the point. put her up there. she wins. it don't even hold the election. it is over. what is interesting about zuckerberg is that he treats the midwest like he is an astronautt landing.
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these strange people in a diner. what is this thing you called milk, where does it come from? does it come from a four-legged creature, i think i saw one out there? you are a 32-year-old billionaire in silicon valley. you have everything but you know you are going to die. the thing is, they are trying to figure out what else can i do. they are all consumed by living forever. they are trying to figure out ways to do that or get a more power. l jesse is right. he's not a very social person. ironically, facebook began as an antisocial pool. it was a reaction -- it was his own anger. >> how you can rely and monitor their sentiments, to be able to see if they are nervous or stressed and then advertise that news and information to voters. >> what would you do if you are a billionaire and near the end --
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he said of andrew jackson had done his deal, there never would have been a civil war. he died 16 years before the war. my daughter is here and just got back from europe. a semester away. i'm glad to have her back. and her name is mckenzie. >> hi, mckenzie! she is super cute and sweet. >> she doesn't look at all like you. >> good for her. >> kimberly, you are next. it's time for... caption these. trump, i am available to go to england with you. the duke and duchess are delighted to share this new photograph of princess charlotth to mark her second birthday tomorrow. isn't she cute as a button? she looks like our little dana perino. it was taken by the duchess herself in norfolk, england.
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it shows the toddler wearing a yellow sweater featuring spring lambs. william and kate were very pleased to show this photograph as they celebrate princess charlotte's second birthday.we >> i love how they call it a "country home." >> oh, like you don't have one? [laughter] >> okay, bernie sanders. last september, 75 sixth-graders in a pittsburgh suburb watched a 93umentary about flight national memorial. they were so inspired that they wanted to do something and they decided to do a bunch of fundraisers. like "wear your pajamas to school" day, "wear a crazy hat" day, they raised $1,003 and had the pleasure of attending the memorial today presenting the check to the park.
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and to help with reforestation and trees that were lost in that horrible terrorist attack. they had a great day throwing the memorial and had the pleasure of meeting with the mother of the youngest passenger on the flight. congratulations to those students. you really inspired us. >> probably one of the most important memorials in the united states. i believe. >> i agree. if you are planning a summer vacation, you have to make a plan to go there. >> definitely. all right... i hate these people! >> positive. >> i can't believe i just discovered this but why do they serve appetizers and odd numbers? this is driving me crazy. >> by the way, great point. >> most people eat with two people and they have a serving of three. >> that's what it is.
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>> appetizers should be four. if you are alone like me, it doesn't matter because it's just me. but why the odd numbers with the appetizers? it makes no sense at all. you've got to stop >> [laughs] >> it's awkward because you are at the end and you don't want to be a jerk and take the last one! >> and then everyone is sittinga there and no one wants to ask. >> it's jesse's turn. >> time now for... i don't have a graphic.. i went on vacation. this is a real vacation... [laughter] >> planned. >> dancing with dolphins. had a great time down there with the family. at a diner of all places. >> you are really there with the people.
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>> welcome back, jesse. never miss an episode of "the five." don't forget to set your dvr. "hannity" is up next. >> sean: thanks to our friends at "the five." a great debut week. welcome to "hannity." i want to welcome all of our friends from the alt left propaganda media.. i suspect they are tuning in tonight. i may or may not have a thing or two to say before the show is over just for you. please stay tuned. joining us tonight is newt gingrich, laura ingraham and rick grenell. and "the fox news specialists", our friend eric bolling. he will join us with reaction to an interview with the commander-in-chief. he is fighting back hard against the propaganda media. that's trying to destroy him. hey, you guys in the media


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