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>> kelly: the president is doing what we recall review of the church there. he's being escorted by president mahmoud abbas of the palestinians. as he goes through, looking at the soldiers, that is quite an honor for the president of the united states to be on
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palestinian soil and have that kind of reception. >> arthel: we are alive in our jerusalem bureau, as we watch these live pictures of president donald trump going into the presidential palace there, we are talking about these images and seeing our president there on that soil, let's talk about the first time ever a flight, perhaps a symbolic connection being made as president trump embarks on what has been up until now basically, no win situation there, trying to bring peace to the middle east. let's listen in.
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judy miller is here with us, john is not with us right now. you were saying that you have no hope at all that there is going to be a peace agreement. facilitated by president trump. judy miller, standby, i have been told that john is back now. can you hear me? >> i can hear you.
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>> arthel: i can hear you, john. as we were watching the pomp and circumstance at the presidential palace, i mentioned earlier how president trump was the first ever flight, perhaps a symbolic connection. do you feel there is any openness on both of those leaders to perhaps come to the negotiating table and really try to start moving this forward to getting to some sort of peace agreement? >> hopefully. like judy was saying, how many years has this been in the process? as you pointed out, all those nonstarter's, that have been so contentious. as far as the president's trip from saudi arabia to israel, it is historic. he talked about the openness for
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peace between saudi arabia and israel. keep in mind, israel's high-tech industry, the number-one part of the economy here, already does is this in the united arab emirates, in particular in dubai. perhaps we will see may be more diplomatic negotiations, but more so, business negotiations with more of the middle east, in the middle east region. that said, as far as a two state solution, peace negotiations, there are so many other aspects to this. one thing that israel security cabinet did before the president's arrival is passed a series of goodwill or "confidence building" measures, including allowing more construction and parts of the left bank and easing restrictions on the crossing from israel into jordan.
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palestinian officials and reportedly president abbas scoffed at these measures, saying they are not that seriou serious. there is again kind of the weariness from both sides, it is going to be very hard to get back to negotiating, however in public, president abbas, and of course it's president netanyahu have said they are all for it. we will see what it comes down to. we are looking at the presidential palace in bethlehem, president trump arrived there just a short time ago. the ceremony, marching band played the national anthem. we saw a delegation from the greek orthodox church and the roman catholic church. the church of nativity is in bethlehem, you are going to have that religious contingent. also bethlehem's mayor was there as well and other officials,
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palestinian security officials, police officials. now we are just waiting to see if the president makes some brief remarks that if he's going to talk in particular about the manchester attack. just to give you a little bit of an idea about his schedule, after he meets with president abbas in bethlehem, they will have some downtime at the king david hotel and later will be going to the holocaust memorial. later, he will be speaking at the israel museum giving a more formal speech. we expect to hear more about not only the trip here and his meetings with the prime minister and president abbas, and also about the attack in manchester. hoping to hear some more remarks or at least brief comments from the president and palestinian authority president abbas.
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>> arthel: we will bring those remarks to our audience when we get them. >> kelly: i would love to go back there, i absolutely love i it. the three main religions of the world can coexist and still have their differences. going to bring in judy miller here. john was talking about the fact the president is going to the holocaust director, it's moving, it's emotional, i remember speaking to survivor there. that story alone brought me to tears. the president will obviously be very emotionally moved by that, i can't believe that he would not be. >> i'm sure he will be. i'm sure they will take note of that very moving place.
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israel has a very complicated, complex relationship with the holocaust, on one hand, israel -- had israel existed, the strong belief in that country, 6 million jews would not have died in europe. it gives the israelis a reason to go on fighting for that territory. it is both a symbol and political reality for them toda today. >> another political reality, what's interesting, a lot of people don't talk about it, you have five churches actually running that place. this is the place where christ died and resurrected according to scripture.
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the churches don't get along. the government says they will not get involved in their dispute but they will protect you and serve you as much as you can. it really is the irony of ironies. you see that people have all these common interests, but they can't seem to find common ground. >> i should also say that israel is one of the few places where christians of the middle east can live peacefully today. and with full rights. that's so often not mentioned. as for the expressions of determination to resurrect the peace process, both
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benjamin netanyahu and president trump talked about how vital this was. i will rely on a proverb that i learned in egypt, which is "there are no taxes for words." >> arthel: we know there is no love lost between benjamin netanyahu and former president barack obama, but prime minister netanyahu seems to have great respect and somewhat adoration -- definitely more feelings towards president trump. with that in mind, benjamin netanyahu says america is back. he feels that president trump is president with having a more upfront and present america. with that sort of backdrop, is at all possible that prime minister netanyahu will be open to hearing some of those
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what were once a deal breakers? >> i think you've already seen the movement on the part of prime minister netanyahu. the problem is that on one hand, he is delighted that the united states has taken a very strong stand against iran. on the other hand, putting pressure on him to resume a peace process which is going to go nowhere only creates pressures within his ruling coalition. he wants very much to continue governing israel. pressure from mr. trump has not helped him internally, politically and israel. i think there's a certain ambivalence there no matter how brave and adulatory the words at this point. >> kelly: you watch it unfold for years, you get so close and still so far. that means a whole lot of praying has to go on to see that
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miracle happened. the whole world is watching and would like to see some resolution. >> that would be wonderful. certainly, president trump has delivered the message that the other states that were just assembled in the saudi kingdom, if you want true peace and want true relations with israel, palestine is the key. that's the message that mr. trump delivered today and will go on delivering. i'm not sure it is politically possible for prime minister netanyahu to act on that and it is certainly not possible at this point, barring a miracle or something we are not aware of for mahmoud abbas to make concessions because he doesn't need to control or represent all of his people. >> kelly: quite an historic
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journey for president trump, thank you for all of your insights throughout the night, particularly on manchester. we will keep you with us, thanks for everything you have done for us tonight. >> thank you very much, my pleasure to be here with you. >> arthel: we turn now back to the coverage of monday night's deadly terrorist attack in manchester, england, . for young concertgoers in manchester, it began as a night of fun but their excitement was suddenly shattered by screams of horror. ariana grande, who was performing at the time at the manchester arena was not hurt but now we are told that 22 people were killed, many more injured, kitty wilson has been following the story from our london bureau throughout the night and joins us now with the very latest, what can you tell us? >> as you say, police have
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revised the death toll up to 22. they gave us a little more detail about what happened, they say there was one attacker who acted alone, they say this person was killed at the scene. they had an improvised explosion device, in other words, a suicide bomber. what police are now trying to establish is whether this person was part of a wider network. other details we know about the sequence of events, this explosion happened just after 10:30 p.m. local time at a concert by a ariana grande witness accounts appeared that device exploded outside the venue as people were leaving. huge crowds, a massive arena, 21,000 people, reports indicate it was almost full. a massive explosion, scenes of panic and sadly, many young fans at this concert and there are heartbreaking reports that there are still parents searching for
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their missing children on social media. ariana grande has tweeted that she is safe but she said that she is broken, from the bottom of my heart. sadly the police in manchester have confirmed that there are indeed children amongst those who were killed. >> arthel: thank you very much, and our london bureau. >> kelly: the hands of radical extremists leave another deadly mark overseas. will it lead to new security measures here at home? that is a question many are asking. a terrorism expert tells us what we should expect to see at entertainment venues in the near future. before we go to that particular story, we want to talk about steve rogers who is here to talk to us. teresa mae is holding a crisis response meeting, the suspected suicide bomb may be the deadliest attack the country has faced in 12 years.
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what's your reaction to this and how should the people of manchester move on from this? the government are going to go over their rules of engagement, that might have to change. they may speed up some search warrants, they may actually begin to round up people more rapidly than they believe can be possibly connected to some type of terrorist cell. that is going to be critically important. not only in the u.k. but here in the united states, that we move on with our lives. it may seem difficult, it will be a time of morning and a time of prayer, but the fact of the matter is the only way these terrorists when is if they hinder us from living the life we live in this country and in the u.k. the fact of the matter is we must keep all of ourselves and our countries in prayer and work together to defeat this evil.
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>> kelly: a lot of people watching us, perhaps they don't understand why we say this was a terrorist attack, we have to wait for the facts. the united states security teams reached out to manchester and said "we believe this is a suicide bomber, it turns out that's what it was. when do we get that final confirmation that it was in fact a terrorist attack? >> you are absolutely right, we don't even know who this individual is, he may not be muslim, he may be someone else. the fact of the matter is, we will get all this information that we need to know when the investigation brings us the identity of the individual, the type of bomb that was used, but more importantly, when they get enough facts together, enough
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collaborative information together that will not compromise any investigation. it could take a day, it could to take a week, it could possible take a month. they don't want to compromise their investigation and that will be the key as to when they are going to give us this information. >> kelly: politically, they are in the throes of a political campaign. the prime minister has suspended her campaign as well as the other candidates. 15 days out from that election taking place. but again, they have not discussed any type of terror response, any type of national security interest in that country throughout this entire campaign. it's that precarious? >> it is very careless, even in this country, they were probably thinking about talking about the manchester concert, now they are going to be talking about the
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manchester massacre. that has to be a top priority now for their political campaign. it goes to what president trump was talking about, you have to put that first and foremost and front and center. it is a threat to all people who love freedom and liberty and justice and certainly a threat to our way of life. thank you for sharing your insights with us as well. >> you are welcome. >> arthel: h:19 in manchester, president trump arrived in the presidential palace, we are expecting president trump to make remarks on what happened in manchester, england. stick with us here as we continue our coverage of the historical trip to the middle east as well as the deadly bombing at the areata grande concert happening at
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10:33 local time. 22 people dead. we will be back in a moment.
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>> arthel: investigators are
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examining evidence to determine if the suicide bomber had accomplices. at the deadly attack is also raising new questions about safety and the impact of concerts attended and other entertainment events. joining us now is the chairman and ceo of the patriarch groups, do you feel that now this will change the way that we experience entertainment? >> it could. there is a likelihood that short term you're going see some impact that would have discretion over children seeing a concert. what i hope happens is they recognize that we shouldn't shrink from this, if this is in
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a terrorist situation, that they don't win, that we don't let them when. >> arthel: the police in manchester calling at that very thing, that there is a terrorist attack. the death toll, many of those children. a crisis management expert, what do you say to the parents of not only the children who have lost their lives in this horrific event but also to the parents whose children witness to this, they have to be traumatized. what do you say to those parents? >> it's a terrible thing, the worst thing that could possibly ever happen. there is just almost no words. it really is having them understand the unique situation and how rare situation and it really for them to also understand that if you do have a child that survived it, you can
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get through this. allow the child to share their feelings and to be open and to listen, give them chance and listen. understand that there are ways to keep them safe and that they shouldn't be intimidated. they should recognize that these are rare events, many other things are far safer. it's important to understand that you can go on and to be strong and that you should be strong. >> kelly: a sound advice, we appreciate that. we can identify this as an act of terror, also say is that act of depravity that is sick and an atrocity. how do we get into the mindset of the people conducting these despicable acts of terror to
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inflict fear and casualties, how do we get inside that mindset and say enough is enough, there is a better way to settle your differences other than attacking humanity. >> you bring up a good point, it is it terrible. these are vicious attacks in massively brutal, many of these terrorists commit. i think certainly psychologists, psychiatrists have begun to identify certain things, certain markers. what is interesting as you can track these markers. if you give ways for us to keep safe in a proactive way for the future, i don't think you are going to really get in the minds of people that have already become committed. i think what we can do is protect the vulnerable minds from being influenced by these
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vicious killers who are really looking at things in black-and-white terms and want and relieved view the west and the united states as the devils. of the worst people possible. speed >> kelly: i'm sorry, i dit mean to interrupt you but that is really the key. they are worshiping death when they commit these kinds of atrocities and it has to be brought to an end. as you try to bring people to start looking at the markers, is there something else, the mental health community, stopping the funding of terrorism, is there something they can do to get to the younger people and to say this is not the route to take? >> absolutely, you see programs
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now, certainly the state department and others, i was part of educating the state department at one point, in a way that we can certainly send messages to young people that might be influenced. as well as to take messages that are trying to target young people and have them be overcome by the positive messages. you've got use that don't believe in themselves, they don't believe in anything because of either their family life or other things going on psychologically, depression, et cetera. they are looking for something bigger than themselves. we need to give them things that are bigger than themselves versus this death and destruction and terror. >> kelly: well said. we thank you so much for your great insight about a difficult problem that we are still
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facing. >> arthel: we are waiting for president trump to make remarks, we are being told that he will address the deadly explosion there that happened overnight at the manchester arena. the president is in bethlehem, meeting with palestinian presidents before. as we continue our coverage, the death toll now stands at 22. many of the victims are said to be young people. >> kelly: we come back, we take you live to london for the very latest.
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>> england is a nation in grief this morning as the cruel hand of terrorism deals another lethal blow. youthful cheers of excitement turning to screams of horror as a bomb explodes at the end of a concert at the end of a
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ariana grande concert happening at the manchester arena. >> kelly: the death toll stands at 22, many people are hurt. katie logan joins us again with more details. what is the latest? >> police have been updating us on what's happened outside the manchester arena, they say person detonated an improvised explosive device, that person also died at the scene. what we don't know is whether this person was acting completely alone or whether the attacker may have been part of a wider network, that is something they are attempting to determine. it has given us more detail about the timeline. at the explosion happened around ten: 10:30 p.m. local time. it appears that the device went off outside the venue as people were leaving. at this is a huge arena, it
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holds 21,000 people. just imagine the crowds that walked into that explosion. witnesses say they described a massive explosion, understandably, panicked people running in all different directions. many young fans, young people, children at this concert. heartbreaking reports we are seeing on social media, parents searching for missing children, ariana grande tweeting "i am broken from the bottom of my heart." police are saying now that there are children amongst those 22 who have died. >> arthel: so sad. we know ariana grande was supposed to perform at the arena in a southeast london on thursday and friday, she has canceled those shows as well as the rest of her tour for now. we talked to some of our experts earlier in the show about
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possibly changing the way the audiences queue up for events. have you heard anything related to that on your end as of yet? >> not yet, it's early days to talk about what changes might be implemented. we are seeing a report from manchester and here in london that there are more officers on the streets. people are being encouraged to go about their day-to-day business. we are expecting in the next hours, the government calling an emergency meeting to discuss this attack. the investigation is widening beyond manchester. involving intelligence agencies as well. britain has a high level of security, security has been asked to be here for some time now. intelligence agencies have been able to disrupt the plots well until now.
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certainly, this one has caught the intelligence services by surprise. the u.k. election, campaigning is underway, that campaigning has been disrupted and been suspended for the time being. >> arthel: kitty logan, thank you very much. >> kelly: quite a night for the people living in manchester, us quite a night -- a day coming for them as well as they try to adjust to what is going on. we want to point out that the president of the united states is currently in bethlehem, he is visiting with mahmoud abbas, we are waiting the president to come to the podium that you see there in the palestinian area where he is going to address what is going on in terms of what has unfolded in manchester. we will go to him live as soon as that becomes available. president donald trump in israel. visiting mahmoud abbas. we will be back with more.
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>> alert, as we continue to follow tragic events in manchester, england, we are also keeping an eye on another major news story that is developing, president trump's visit to israel. he is now meeting the palestinian authority leader mahmoud abbas. they are expected to speak it anymore meant, let's go live for the very latest. >> we are hearing they are about 5 minutes out for making comments, we are looking at a live picture and see the two podiums there at the presidential palace in bethlehem, where president trump is meeting with palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas. they arrived there about an hour ago to a ceremony, a marching band, various dignitaries, bethlehem's mayor. representatives from the church of the nativity.
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that said, the discussion today will most likely focus on issues of the region. in particular, as we heard yesterday, restarting peace talks. coming to some kind of terms or 82 state solution. president trump spoke at length yesterday when he arrived at the airport and gave remarks at the airport after the ceremony about his trip to saudi arabia and efforts to bridge it piece not only in the middle east but again here in the region between israelis and palestinians. that will be the main topic of discussion with mahmoud abbas. also, i think some of the other issues that will be discussed, the construction of settlements in the west bay, it's been a divisive issue, created problems between the palestinians and
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israelis, president mahmoud abbas. also, these may not be poinsettia brought up in these remarks, but perhaps talking about moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. that was a main issue in the campaign and now president trump is in office. an extremely contentious issue. also construction in the west bank and also regional issues including business and development. as far as concrete points being aligned out in negotiation points, i don't think we are going to hear that today. i think it will be both leaders expressing thanks and gratitude and support. much like we heard when the president met with prime minister netanyahu and they gave a joint statement. we are also waiting to see if the president, and presumably he will, makes remarks about the attacks in manchester. to give you an idea about his
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schedule, after giving remarks here, the president will go to the king david hotel in downtown jerusalem where he has been staying, he will have some downtime there before he goes to the holocaust memorial. we talked about this earlier, you have been there, i have too, it is a very emotional place. we will have that for you. he will deliver a speech at the museum which is actually just around the corner from our studio here. he will be wrapping up his visit here as we saw it yesterday, i gave statements, met with the prime minister, rapp met with israel's president, the western wall as well. he will probably give a wrap up his visit and what he hopes will come out of it going into the future. in particular, these peace talks. later, he will leave, go back
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where he will meet with pope francis at the vatican. as far as peaks talks, i want to tell you the headline of the jerusalem post, they are saying it's a tough deal but we will get there. >> arthel: read it again, john. >> it says "it's a tough deal, but we will get there." >> arthel: that's hopeful. you are dehydrated the points of contention that have been nonstarters of until now. not only are there differences between the two states if you will, there are also internal differences in political issues that get in the way inside of their respective camps. >> absolutely. you have the hard-line elements here in israel, more conservative elements that aren't necessarily willing to get back to the table.
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there are other elements, including abbas and those hard-line, more islamic extremist elements. they want to create problems and roadblocks as much as they can. there are elements that create obstacles. at least in public, both leader leaders, the prime minister and the palestinian authority president have said they are willing to negotiate peace. whether or not the president can bring that together remains to be seen. >> kelly: getting back to the headline, the president calls himself the ultimate dealmaker, and of course he is the author of the book "the art of the deal." if he can strike a deal, that would be amazing for that particular area, they have been wanting peace for so long. there is so much division there
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it is almost hard to fathom that a u.s. president can actually bring them to the peace table and find some brotherhood there. that would be a huge task but i huge a compliment as well. >> right. it is a good point. i think because of the respect that both leaders have for the president, remember, the prime minister is on a first-name basis, during his remarks yesterday he referred to the president is donald, there is a close relationship. i think they may not want to say no to president trump, he may lay down some terms and guidelines and say "take it or not and they may say okay, we may be willing to do this. just because they don't want to say no to president trump. i'm interested to see, number one what he said with palestinian authority president abbas right now and more so what he says later today during his speech at the museum wrapping every thing up.
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>> kelly: i don't want to make it personal for you but you have been in that region for a while now. i think the president is trying, i can't speak for him, but it seems to me that this trip is all about trying to show that the three main religions have a mutual benefit of trusting each other to develop a relationship with each other as opposed to defying each other and having mutually assured destruction as we have seen through terrorist attacks. >> right, that wasn't something that he talked about when he was in saudi arabia, obviously he spoke about here. this is the intersection of those religions that he talked about. you see the picture, him putting his hand on the western wall. now he is in palestine in the west bank. i think this trip is really
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twofold. one, to show his respect for the region, for israel, also for the palestinians. and two, to jumpstart and kickstart renegotiation or peace talks between both sides. we will see what comes out of these meetings. i don't think we are going to hear concrete points or the first concrete point having to do with these talks, this is definitely the beginning of more to come. >> arthel: as kelly pointed out, you've been in the region for some time now. what are you hearing from the locals? >> this has been highly anticipated. people understand that this is a historic, significant visit. there has been a lot of traffic problems, there is a new york when the president arrives. fifth avenue is shut down. you know that very well. here in jerusalem, the city
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center, downtown, the whole city has just been essentially shut down. particularly around the king david hotel. i live in the city center, i walked my dog there yesterday morning and today before work. secret service had tense out. people are really fascinated by this. i've had a lot of people, the other night at dinner came over to me, asking what i think is going to happen on this visit, what do i think of the president's visit. there is a good energy about it, whether or not. i think jude miller talked about this, how she's not very optimistic that something will be reached. others hope this is the start, as i said, renegotiating peace or at least coming to the table. again, people have been fascinated. they moan and groan about the traffic issues, but they understand how significant this is.
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>> arthel: we look at a very gorgeous shot outside the presidential palace where we were find out momentarily what is on the mind of president donald trump. not only as it pertains to whatever negotiating or the beginning stages of negotiating, who knows, some prehistoric peace agreement there. also we are going to find out what the president's thinking and his reaction regarding the manchester explosion happening about 10:30 last night local time in england just after the ariana grande concert. >> kelly: press secretary shawna spicer went on to let people know in the media, that the national security team has been keeping the president up-to-date on the developments in manchester.
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>> arthel: that terror act has been called just that, it has been called a terror act. president trump has some very strong words about stamping out terrorism when he was on the podium there in saudi arabia. >> kelly: only find out the details in terms of who did this, the president will also likely respond to that. before we leave, muslims have to stand up and fight against this terrible and heinous act against humanity. we will see what happens in the wake of all of this when we get all of the results from manchester. >> arthel: to your point, we are at a different time in this world right now. and perhaps, that just may be the moment where people are more open to come together. perhaps this may be the beginning of a peace agreement.
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>> kelly: "we must live together as brothers or perish as fools." >> arthel: we will be right back.
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.. >> a deadly concert explosion. bomb exploding in manchester, england, shaking the city, putting the world on high alert.
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22 that including children, 60 others injured. >> the suicide bomber targeting a concert by american pop star ariana grande. blasts went off as the crowd of mostly very young fans were leaving after she went on stage. >> this is the moment the bomb went off. on the left side of your screen, the flash going off of the explosion and seconds later a large boom and the horrified reaction from the man recording. >> no! >> it is 4:00 on the east coast, 9:00 am in manchester, england, people waking up to the chaos and carnage after such a horrible event and 11:00 in bethlehem where donald trump is
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expected to speak at any moment following a meeting with palestinian leader abbas. this is one day after trump called for muslim leaders to drive terrorists out of their communities. >> we have live fox news team coverage, john honey live in jerusalem with the president's remarks about the be delivered. chris jenkins was stepped up security at home. >> reporter: kitty logan covering breaking developments from london as we wait. >> police have been updating telling us one attacker died at the scene, wearing an improvised explosive device which he detonated. although police say this person was alone in carrying out the attack what they don't know is


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