have a great weekend, everyone. happy father's day to all of the dads out there, including mine and my husband. and please join me monday on "the intelligence report." i will be on their on fox business. "the specialists" are next. >> katherine: hello, everyone. i'm katherine timpf with eric bolling and eboni k. williams. we are the fox news specialists well, it's been a new twist after new twist today in the soap opera known as the russian investigation. president trump delivering a stunning tweet earlier writing, sources tell fox news the tweet is in reference to attorney general rod rosenstein's overseeing the russian investigation.

also a source close to trump's legal team that president trump was not confirming in that tweet he was under investigation for possible obstruction. they say he was just referencing "the washington post" report that an obstruction probe is underway. that is just the tip of the iceberg today. eric, the legal team said he's not confirming, but what else could "i am under investigation" possibly mean? >> eric: i don't know. first of all day long people are expecting, are they talking about rosenstein, are they talking about mueller? i guess fox, they said rosenstein. rod rosenstein did recommend a fire mueller, so rod rosenstein is the guy who -- i'm sorry, fire comey. but rod rosenstein is the guy who hired mueller, so now we are hearing -- get ready for this. rod rosenstein might recuse himself because he feels like he may be too involved in in the russia story, so that would bring on racial brand,

who is the associate attorney general. -- she's the third in line at the doj, it's getting crazy. let me leave you with this thought. the stock market, the dow made all record high, 21,384 or so, and record of unclaimed, 4.3%, it's not been this low since 2001, 60 years ago. meanwhile, this special counsel, mueller said he hired 13 new lawyers either today or yesterday. 13 new lawyers, eboni k. -- >> on the low end. >> $1,000 an hour, eight hours a day, maybe a year. >> probably talking longer. >> $15 million for the lawyers, $15 million for the staff and depositions and travel. you are talking $100 million investigation at least. meanwhile, still waiting for that one. >> eboni: so many hiring and firing it so hard to keep track.

i love those numbers, eric, you talk about our economy and we are going to count those and feel good about those very low on employment numbers. that's amazing. i love it. but in all sincerity, this is the thing. >> eric: is there something there? >> eboni: a little bit. i'm glad americans are working. that's important. that's good. you know, kat, this is a problem when the president talks about his twitter being official statements. it does begun hard to decipher what's meant by the tweet today. >> katherine: lets me today about smith specialist. she is a longtime washington correspondent, including with a real clear politics and national journal. current white house correspondent for the independent journal review, but she specializes in perfect grammar. erin mcpike is here. and she's the senior director of research and consumer insight for -- he is also author of the upcoming book "america in the age of trump," which comes out in july 4th, but she specializes in healer clinton fan girling.

jessica tarlov is here today. what do you think? being investe pulling up the tweets. trump saying you can't have a president being investigative by the fbi. lo and behold, we do have a president being investigated. i think it's better to have all of that out there. i think you should engage in the conversation. if you want twitter to be his official statement, he should certainly talk to his lawyer beforehand when he does things like that, his legal team is none too pleased with what's going on. but if this is a mode of communication, i rather keep the honest men telling us lies. >> i would, too. >> eric: has he said that? >> i mean, erin, having found out that donald trump, the president, is being investigated? >> he said "i am" --

>> eric: according to "the washington post" ." >> he would've said "fake news, "washington post" not being investigated." >> eric: he's being, uh -- >> i don't understand what you are saying, eric. >> it was the person -- it was a man who suggested i fire comey after he said i was going to fire him anyway, after he said it first, rosenstein recommended it. i mean, what is it? he went back and forth on that! >> eric: but rosenstein sent a memo to donald trump saying i would recommend letting comey go. trump said, yeah, i got the memo but i also wanted to do it. >> but the president wanted that memo. he was back and forth on that. >> eric: i don't see the big deal. i don't see the hypocrisy of the guy recommending firing comey being at the forefront of the investigation into why he fired comey? >> which he was going to do anyway? >> that's the point! >> i hear what you are saying.

you are talking about the high prophecy -- hypocrisy, the employment status of james comey, who is being on the front and back, beg involved in the investigation why comey was fired. >> i understand that part. >> he may have to recuse himself? i think he's acted completely privately and -- appropriately and dramatically. it seems like he's done nothing -- >> eric: what's going to happen, jessica, on the left and of rod rosenstein recuse as himself, you are down to rachel brandt, who was a harvard graduate and worked for bush 43, the left is going crazy saying they do not want her either. are people going to keep recusing themselves until you find a liberal that will stick it to pence? trump? >> there are plenty of liberals and republicans if he's guilty of this will be thrilled to stick it to trump. it's not about party anymore. bob mueller is not a republican

-- bob mueller is a republican. >> eric: do you not think that's a slight conflict of interest? you are a donor to hillary clinton and you are coming on to investigate the republican president? >> the only thing people can be independent and have these jobs, or they have to be nonvoters? >> eboni: i'm all for nonvoters having these jobs. >> eric: they may not be donors. you can also be a democrat without being a major political donor. >> at $2700 donation is the maximum, but it doesn't mean they were bundlers who raise billions of dollars and billions and billions because we spend too much on elections. >> eric: there is a reason why we shouldn't and don't as media journalists. opinion journalists even shouldn't and don't contribute to campaigns. >> eboni: people to read into these things the wrong way can certainly make a case that may be your objectivity is a caramelized. i agree with you, jessica, i don't like the dash you cannot do your job,

we do not want to set the president. if you are looking to make that argument, it becomes easier when you are looking for a donation. >> good luck finding independence and a legal field. good luck. >> eric: i don't know -- i don't know which way you lean right or left, but i'm guessing -- do you make political donations? >> i don't. >> eric: why? >> i'm a journalist. >> eric: exactly. is that too high of a standard to expect? is that too high of a standard to expect a guy who's going to investigate the president to not have been a political donor to hillary clinton? >> i understand what you are saying, but i am curious as to who would be appropriate then? >> eric: someone... someone who didn't donate to hillary or trump. >> -- people making $1,000 an hour plus to find 15 of them who are well-qualified enough and they have never made a political donation in their lives? you are going to be hard pressed >> eric: i'm not certainly for

the opponent -- >> okay so for the opponent? okay. right. >> even this person who trump nominated for the replacement, he's given to republicans. in any citizen, you are someone who donates to a candidate. >> eboni: to your point, eric, i tried to make it a habit of not donating. i think i gave $50.01 time. i don't think this becomes the perception, you are right, that's not the rule of law for legal experts, but i do think that maybe it's something we should explore. maybe as attorneys we shouldn't be donating either. >> doesn't it bother you that mueller is a republican? >> eric: you and i have worked for so long. i don't have a problem with their fellow stomach political frustration -- to the democrat who was donald trump's adversary. i mean, they clearly have a bias toward hillary clinton, toward

liberalism, against donald trump! clearly! >> i don't think that's what it means when they serve in the position that is first and foremost about serving their country over their party. >> eric: what you want the person investigate and donald trump at the head, have that person have a political donor to the donald trump campaign? would you accept that as a liberal? >> i would accept that as a liberal. i deal with candidates i don't enjoy all the time, i respect them with as colleagues and fr. >> deputy attorney general rosenstein also creating intrigue after releasing a statement last night going after leakers, writing "americans should exercise caution before excepting as truth any stories attributed to anonymous officials." now what could he have been talking about? >> it's very strange. i've never seen anything like that. >> i might be the only person that i don't have a problem with the statement.

>> a lot of people have had problems with this statement. i don't. obviously, anonymous leaks are causing problems and they are trying to clamp down on it. it's obviously this is rosenstein and his ability to carry out the investigation. so i don't really -- >> eboni: i think this is sad, one of the biggest casualties of the 2016 election was the credibility of what should be independent departments in this country. the department of justice, fbi, the state department. what i'm seeing six months into this of this presidency, those have not been rehabilitated whatsoever. i didn't think it could get worse. it's worse. both departments are in a worst state credibility wise. >> i agree with that. >> eric: erin, so that the statement... i'm trying to figure out. is he talking about the jared kushner leaks that allegedly happened overnight that this investigation was pointing that out toward jared kushner as well? >> who knows?

i think it's the piling up of leaks, because even comey said some of the leaks have been wrong. >> right. that's an established fact that some of it has been wrong, which is why you should not establish it as fact. >> on another point that you made, eric, i just want to say that just because no evidence has not been found yet does not mean it's does not exist. >> when do we stop? 100 million? 200 million to make a billion? do we keep investigating until we find something or keep investigating? >> we have found something. >> what? >> we've found things about mike flynn, we found that donald trump asked james comey to keep, i hope you can back off this thing, james comey took it as a director. we know there were unsavory characters associated with the campaign like palmetto ford and carter page. we do not have a collusion between donald trump and the russians -- >> eric: this is months into the investigation... >> this is early! gave it some time. >> eric: no evidence of obstruction of justice 11 months

in. we are going to get into the billions in a second. no, not yet. not yet. >> all right. >> eboni: donald trump is doing, what? making lawyers great again. spewing up next, president trump announcing a major crackdown on obama's cuba policy. we are coming right back. ♪ g new cars.

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>> eric: president trump up ending one of president obama's most controversial foreign policy decisions, reopening diplomatic ties with cuba. the two year old policy has been under fire as a big giveaway to the brutal castro regime, and president trump announced a major role back this afternoon in miami. >> it's hard to think of a policy that makes less sense than the prior administration's terrible and misguided deal with the castro regime. now we hold the cards. we now hold the cards! the previous administration easing of restrictions on travel and trade does not help the

cuban people. they only and reach the cuban regime! therefore, effective immediately, i am canceling the last administration's completely one sided deal with cuba. >> eric: all right, we will bring it around. erin, so our audience is clear, it's not a complete rollback of obama policies. americans will still be able to travel to cuba, but we cannot do business with the cuban government and the military. we can do business with the cuban people, but not anything that -- if you know cuban policy, almost everything is intertwined with the government and military. >> it seems to me that the administration wants to have this both ways. if he actually wanted to keep his campaign promise, it would've been a complete rollback. he's saying this that he's doing this on the ground of human rights, but he's kind of walking both lines on that too,

obviously, because in these beef trump a administration, you have rex tillerson saying that it's our value, but it's not our policy. >> eric: eboni, one of the points of this new trump-cuban policy, we have to return our american prisoners. what he's done is he's kept the economic parts of this alive, at least. it still alive, you can still get on a plane and go to cuba, tomorrow, if you want to. what he is also done, if you want to fanatic relations with us, you need to sit back down at the table and talk about returning those american prisoners and your human rights violations. i think it captures of the good of obama and the good of trump's ideas. >> eboni: here's my concern, eric. i'm about president trump's ability to negotiate a better deal for his mistake of america. it makes perfect sense to me. my question though becomes, to evan's -- why start with cuba when we know about the human rights

violation about saudi arabia, russia, many people we do business with every day. i'm curious. >> eric: we are starting there, because it was a campaign promise and i think you are right, erin, he gets it both ways when you get to address the campaign promises of rolling back obama's cuba policy -- >> well, obama -- >> eric: before you go crazy hating on trump -- >> ever, that's not fair to say i'm going crazy beating on trump. what did i just say just now? >> this is a very good economic feel for the united states. this is a better economic field for the united states than obam obama's economic deal. >> the thing is, though, as both of you pointed out, getting our prisoners back? good thing. obviously a good thing. obviously a great thing to work out a better deal for us. but however, as you both pointed out, doesn't mean that i'm crazy and hating on trump to point out, hey, i've got a question why all of a sudden were concerned about human rights

violations when were not concerned about it. >> eric: do you like the cuba policy? >> it's a very important policy to my question, because the only difference is obama like the one and not the other. you can flip the same thing about obama. >> eric: no, no, no! this gives us leverage! we've got the american consumer, a powerful leverage tool for cuba! this is where we're going to do business with you. the government is not going to take 80% of the deal anymore, like they were before. we will do deals with you with your people, not your government. >> i accept that and understand that, the expiration makes more sense to me. i'm saying the human rights angle doesn't really make much sense. >> eric: i will bring in jessica, but we are solving part of the human rights problem, part of it. not all of it, but part of it. >> any american life that comes home been held captive someone else is a wonderful day. any economic gains that we would see is also a wonderful thing. i would say though that from early estimates we know of as of today, we are actually going to lose 12,000 jobs and it could

cost us over $6 billion doing what he has done so far. i would also add that i saw a tweet from a special assistant to the president that called out barack obama right away and said, you know, i would love to see what he thinks now, look what we've done. and the eventual newness of how donald trump conducts himself in terms of policy -- >> eric: can we lift the eventual minutes -- >> i would love if donald trump could. >> eric: can anyone tell me that if this is an economic policy that isn't better for americans? >> i don't think we know that yet. we have to see over the next six months through the year what it will look like. >> eric: let's say if you were a hotel company and you want to open up a hotel in new havana because americans can travel everett in the past, after president obama, you could do that deal, but the cuban government took a big portion of whatever money was generated from that. now? >> somebody travel restrictions are being put back into place. so americans can travel, but

they have to get special permission to do it. they just cannot jump on a plane and go to cuba. >> eric: well, you can. you can't. >> if you want to get in trouble... >> eric: you can still do that. if you go to a hotel or restaurant owned by the cuban government, you may have to talk to the treasury about it. >> the thing is they all own data. >> you are going to a communist state. the government has their hands on everything. >> eric: it's a fair and valid, now. but when you go back to them and tell you we are going to open up hotels and restaurant chains over there, but as long as the cuban government isn't getting it, you will have massive human travel. vehicle everyone on this panel, everyone in the country would love to sit economic growth and job creation from any deal this president or any president makes. >> eric: are we all in favor of human rights violations going away can cuba? >> yeah, but -- >> eric: where was president obama? he didn't negotiate any of that.

>> eric, what did i start my combination? i'm all about a better deal. i have a legitimate question about the nature. >> having a question about something that trump has done doesn't mean we hate trump. >> eric: i am not -- i'm saying -- i mean, yes -- what about saudi arabia? how about this is a better human rights violation for human rights -- >> russia. >> eric: it's better for business here. >> eboni: the president himself did not fragment any rollback of obama >> they want to hear that every time. >> eric: i'm getting yelled at. we've got to go. straight ahead, the trump administration making big moves on immigration and the future of illegal immigration children and parents of america. that is moments away. ♪ i think i found myself a cheerleader ♪

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>> eboni: the trump administration making waves over the fate of two obama orders on immigration. the presidential candidate, trump was one of the fiercest candidates, and last night the administration officially revoked the program documenting under accredited -- also last night, the administration issued a memo that the program, which allows document endurance brought into the country as children, will remain in effect. the white house saying that no final decision has been made on the long-term state of the program. eric, there are those that were very quick to jump on this, in particular "the new york times" came out with a headline right away saying that trump not needing a promise to roll that back, that he hasn't met it so far, but but these long terms unclear. even if he lets the children stay, the so-called dreamers stay --

are they going to be upset about that? >> eric: this is another example of how it's not exactly hard-core what he promised in this campaign, but it is partially. so it's almost like a negotiation with the legal community which, look, for me that's what donald trump is all about. yeah, he went out there and said a lot of things that he's negotiated better deals, i think, all the way around. i don't think that anybody in in the right mind -- well, i shouldn't say that. this is the nicest way to implement what he wanted. for now, the illegal parents have got to go. >> eboni: greg gutfeld, someone here at fox news would say, that what trump said on the campaign trail is an opening negotiation. is that what you'd agree with? >> eric: i think he'd tell you that. he's told you about the art of

the deal, that's his skill. personally, i think we just -- this would go against what trump would say, i think we should open up legal immigration avenue so we double or triple our legal immigration to 3 million a year rather than 1 million a year. >> eboni: that's a great economic boost. erin, what do you think will play out for president trump? >> i think you are going to see some big, resistant protest after this one. because he's cutting it both ways. he did get something on the board for the base, which obviously the administration is trying to get wins on the board so they can engage the base, make it happy. i noticed today that the white house rushed to say, we are not going to make a decision on dapa just yet, they are stalling on this one. >> eboni: do you think they will permit the dreamer pluralist estate? >> throw another bone to the base. hold up, let's see. >> eboni: do you think they'll get to stay? >> i think inherently donald trump would not mind if all 11 million people here illegally stayed. at the republican party -- >>

eboni: really? >> yes. he's a new york city guy. he's a friend, you hear it, a friend of police officers and firemen, union workers. i think he in the past few years it's not just from the campaign, but he's shifting right and went down the birther hole, and that moved to a place that wasn't who he was years ago. i don't think he cares about the 11 million people, but i think now he's made those promises and he is aware of the fact that, for instance, the border wall is not going up anytime soon. what i would say, though -- -- >> eric: the wall is going up. >> eboni: how do you know, eric! >> what i will say about this. >> eric: the wall will go up for this evidence of collusion between the russians -- >> $5, you've got. these 5 million peoples, the presence, to qualify for the program, you have to have no criminal record. that something donald trump was

really harsh on. also, for the next ten years, we will lose $230 billion from the american economy by taking these people out. >> social security and a lot -- they put money into this program that they do not get back out, absolutely. >> they want to be a part of our society, we should allow them. >> eboni: eric, you agree that legal migration -- no, we make it easier. >> we've got to run. >> eboni: they are yelling at me, guys. rush essays they killed the leader of isis. stay with us. just like the marines did. the process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like you're a part of the family. i love that i can pass the membership to my children. we're the williams family, and we're usaa members for life.

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upcoming book "america in the age of trump." oh, boy. oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, . >> what ever? it's actually very fair. >> eric: we have some very, very good news to announce. russia announcing it may have killed abu bakr al-baghdadi, the leader of isis. received information that al-baghdadi was present at a meeting of top isis commanders in raqqa last month. if officially verified, will this impact the onslaught of recent attacks across the globe of isis? i will start with you. i think this is big news. i think demoralizing to isis. do you think differently? >> first of all, it's not been confirmed. >> you might not have been in >> this might be a victory of our coalition forces, but you

have to think about isis as a monster. if you cut off its head, it could grow in its place. i went to a pentagon leaving last month when they said it might not be the final battle. if these anti-isis forces take back raqqa, they go find another territory to claim. you have to think about leadership in the same way. even if their leader is killed, another leader will come in its place. >> eric: cell, kat, you and i may not agree with as. we just do not need to be fighting a war, this might not be one of them. what about the americans that killed al-baghdadi allegedly, it's the russians. >> the less that we do in these areas, it's better. i'm not saying, "american dominance, let's show how dominant we are." i feel like there are better ways we can spend our money on that, personally. >> eric: [laughs] >> katherine: yeah, there you go.

we just have to wait and see because this guy has been reported that more than this one time. >> eric: eboni, when we first found out that al-baghdadi was the leader of isis, he was wearing the big rolex watch. this is the guy when you take the linchpin, they came pin down, sometimes -- erin is right. even if you kill isis, they will turn the name of something else. >> and all the lone wolves inspired by isis. they won't go away, either. >> eboni: is this better than the alternative, him being out and about can like absolutely. eric, i can't say this makes me particular hopeful that the end of isis is near. the ideology is so pervasive, unfortunately, and it's so spread out. frankly, raqqa, a lot of people have already moved away from the area and we know that. really what we need to do is attack isis on a multi-front type of thing and just get a whole front of people at one time. i think one of the time doesn't make any sense. >> eric: a little bit of a heart there.

dr. jessica tarlov? >> i'm about to surprise you. i'm excited. >> eric: you're happy about this? >> if it's true? i'm hugely happy about it for the moral victory front and also it was important, it was so central to barack obama's presidency as well that he could have those moments where he could come out and say we've got a big one. i think when we are facing the threat of terrorist attacks, lone wolf attacks here, people are afraid to go to europe. i mean, i'm heading to europe tonight and i had conversations with people who were unpleasant with what happened in france and england and there are great concern there, it's good for morale, good for the nation, not that you shouldn't be afraid anymore but we are making some advances and we can work with partners with sanctioning, but russia can be useful to us. i wait on confirmation. >> eric: we will leave it on there. that's a great note to leave it on print when we come back, it is between he went on the street bringing levity amid some very emotional news this week. plus powerful new

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>> katherine: it's been a rough, emotional news week, to

put it mildly. yesterday was national smile powered day. and on the streets of new york, some people saw a reason to smile. so today is national smile day. i don't like people telling me what to do, so i was like, boo. what do you think about smiling? >> smiling is pretty fun. >> random acts by people in general. >> people in general is why i frown. >> what do you have to smile about? >> jokes. telling jokes in the sunshine with your family. >> do you ever think about, they die? >> it makes me look sexy. >> everyone i talked to really like smiling. what do you think? >> smiling is infectious. it brings out the best of people.

>> i don't think crowns get the credit they deserve. frowns get a bad rap for a little bit. i feel like there is some positives to frowning. what about my smile. is that a good one? what about this? no, not a good one? >> what does that? >> it's like a stank look. >> he's a liar! >> doesn't matter who it is. >> i think it's a powerful tool of communication. i feel like the right guy come over me, would be more into frowning. >> interesting. >> you don't think there should be a frown day? >> no mack. >> i think the world is such a better place right now, that if everybody truly smiled at each other a little more, it might make the world a little better. >> i've been told i don't look approachable. is that true? >> yes. >> i don't want to. do you think i should smile a little more?

>> only for today. >> katherine: all right. never, ever smile. you don't know who is falling in love with your friends. >> who was editing that package? >> eric: monaco, probably. >> katherine: last night, politics and partisanship took a timeout during the annual baseball game in washington. tens and thousands of attendees turned out to honor the heroics of the capitol police officers who prevented a massacre and pay tribute to the wounded cosmic men steve's or -- and the other victims of wednesday. >> getting around second base, because steve scalise was manning second base on the practice field. >> you can hear everybody chanting "usa." it's very moving here, i have to say. >> coming together. >> now everybody is kneeling down to pray. >> this is officer bailey, who was injured and took down downe shooter with his officer greiner, will who was also working with him.

he threw out the first pitch. [cheers and applause] [crowd singing "take me out to the ball game"] >> we spend every day working together. our families are closer, staffs are very close. he's in the hospital. he's recovering. he's got ways to go. >> we are all close to him, he's a lovely person. this game is a game where we always come to have run. it's good for everybody, and hope that our team wins. tonight -- >> katherine: a lot of heartwarming moments last night. also doctors providing an update on congressman's health today, saying that he's still in critical condition, but they have controlled his internal bleeding and his vitals' signs have vandalized. >> eric: officer bailey, that was the most heartwarming moments. he's the one who returned fire

on the psychopath on wednesday, throwing the pitch out. steve, you've just got to say, thank god for men and women like officer bailey and the other capitol hill police officer, the female, who was also shot as well. on a side note, he threw be pitched better than barack obama did. >> eboni: always... [laughter] >> katherine: the liberals didn't win, though. >> did you see they brought the trophy immediately to scalise's office, the captain that would play on, he wanted them to, you know, remain competitive. they immediately went straight for it. i thought it was fantastic. it was nice to see paul ryan and nancy pelosi. >> eric: that was the most ingenuous moment of the night, nancy pallone after spending the day trashing republicans for the shooting of republicans, blaming, blaming republicans and fox, and then she has the audacity to sit next to paul ryan and say to scalise tonight. >> eboni: she got off her talking points. that is a problem, she is the

leadership of the party, because i think the party is handicapped, quite frankly, having her in the role because they cannot rely on date. i will say happy to see all of the lsu gear, all of the purple and gold, a very nice not to steve scalise. >> it was the most engaged audience i've seen in the park. it was a nice evening. >> for this game? because they nats aren't in the playoffs. >> i like me nats, they always disappoint us. >> eric: maybe it brings awareness to the game and the money they waste. so the year going forward, there is a lot more money. >> they raise money this year, that's great. >> i talked to a couple of people, staffers who don't normally go, they said we are all going. i think it's sensational. we know we are new yorkers here, what can happen at a tragedy and people coming together besides nancy pelosi, that inauthentic

which witch. >> eric: she blamee attempted murders of republicans. and then she pretends to be buddy buddies with paul ryan. >> i don't think she was pretending they are. >> eric: don't? >> eboni: i think she was coming off her talking points, but the moment she acknowledged that, kind of an off comment, your question, what are your thoughts on nancy pelosi being the face of the democratic party in this moment? >> i think one tim ryan, the young ohio republican challenged her for the leadership, i thought that was a healthy thing, to release to be in the conversation where the party is today and how we are going to win more elections. we lost big in 2016, but we lost over a thousand seats during barack obama's term. i think we -- she continues to be an ineffective leader, but i don't know what's going to happen in the coming years, and we need to be getting an excellent farm team up there, pulling more people like tim ryan and the

mayor from south bend, indiana, who is running for dnc chair. there is a lot of young, exciting people, big enthusiasm also on the young democrats to get out there and start running, especially women, thousands saying they are going to run. >> i think the future is bright. >> how long -- >> i think there will be shades of it next week. i don't think it will last. >> like monday morning ish? >> when the health care bill drops, you will not see any unity. >> but it's politics. >> when we return, we will circle back with our specialists erin mcpike and jessica tarlov. do not go away. ♪ ♪ watch me leap from my heart when it comes to you ♪

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and stay awake during the day. learn about non-24 by calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. >> time to circle back with our specialist. erin mcpike and jessica tarlov. i will start with you, erin i need to know your dog, the breed, how long you've had your dioxin, and i love that your dog is named after ben franklin. >> his birthday is july 3rd, 1 day after jessica's book comes out. he will be a year old on july 3rd. he is a purebred black lab, and i've had him since labor day

weekend. >> the u.k. criticism that your dog has a real person's name, because my dog is named carrie james and people give you a hard time. should have a puppy name, like cocoa or something. >> i like having a real name. people tell me franklin is a great name, i have people who say you must be the smartest dog in puppy class, because your dog is franklin. >> my dogs name is freedom. the >> -- we are thankful for having you. one of my most reads -- you have a phd in political science? >> i do. >> jessica -- >> is about my thesis? >> your book is coming out july 4th. >> is it my stomach it is. >> how can you do that if you're

a democrat? you don't like america. >> i wrote it with doug schon, who was also a fox news contributor, i worked with him look for a blissful four and a half years. >> [laughs] that could be the first time people talking about working with doug being blissful. [laughter] >> i didn't say that. so actually, it's not a partisan book. >> no. >> no, no! legitimately it's not. it is a road map. >> >> it's friday. i am sorry. we have 30 seconds left. >> anyway, it's a road map, a bipartisan road map to how we can address 10-11 key issue areas, and whole solutions from the left and right, center left and center right, actually, to show how we can come together on health care, the economy, national security. thank you so much. >> thank you so much to our fox news specialist today, both erin mcpike and jessica tarlov. thank you for watching. make sure you follow us on social media on both twitter and facebook, remember, 5:00 will

never be the same. "special report" up next. >> more palace intrigue over the special counsel investigation, and president trump undoes one of president obama's initiatives on cuba. this is "special report" ." good evening. i'm chris wallace and for bret baier. there are tweets and clarifications, reports and denials tonight in the investigation into president trump's alleged links with russia and possible obstruction of justice. all of this while mr. trump announced a major policy change, reversing the course sent by his predecessor. cheap white house correspondent john roberts starts us off the night. >>