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jackie: we are hearing from witness, one man telling our sister station sky news that one suspect jumped from a van with a knife. he was held by bystanders until police came and took him into custody. that information coming from witnesses at the scene, it's not been confirmed by police. but that incidents happened at worship weres were leaving the finsbury park mosque. ramadan ends at the end of the week. it happened outside the plus slim welfare house which is not far from the mosque. the van ran over worshipers leaving after midnight ramadan prayers. there are two mosques in that area. there were hundreds of
worshipers in the area at the time. the statement reading in part quote within many will feel tear rides and be angry and saddened by what has taken place tonight. we are calm as the establishment established the facts. prime minister theresa may's office has been told about the crash and she describes it as a terrible incident. thee said all our thoughts are with those injured, and their loved ones. authorities in london say this is likely terror related but it's all still under investigation it's fresh. it happened just after midnight. the finsbury park mosque was associated with extreme ideology and was shut down.
but it has not been associated with radical views for more than a decade. the alert level is high. let's keep an eye on that. let's go to our sister network sky news. let's listen in. >> the guy behind him. the driver of the van said i did my best which meant this was conscious. he did it deliberately to kill as many muslims as possible. >> this attack comes just weeks after diners were targeted at borough market. there this time the target was worship weres finishing their ramadan prayers. there is shock here and people are left stunned by what they have seen and are demanding
immediate police action. >> let me give an idea of exactly where we are. to my left, an important part of the capital. the incident itself happened on the other side of the railway bridge. they have been here since the early hours of this morning. it's happening shortly after midnight. it happened outside a building. the other side of the bridge behind the police advance just a short distance down the road. outside of building four, the muslim welfare house. let's take a look at what we know so far. police were called to this area finsbury park at 20 past 12:00 this morning. this van described as a white van struck close to that muslim welfare house just after midnight.
and we know that the area was full of people who just left ramadan midnight prayers at the center as well as finsbury park. there are a number of mosques in this area. we are in the middle of ramadan. an extremely busy night as worshipers came and went. mark, you have been here for some time. what else are you hearing? >> in terms of the investigation, an important update from scotland yard confirming they believe there was only one suspect. that suspect, a 48-year-old man is in custody. he's being assessed at a hospital. he will be formally questioned. clearly police as matter of urgency will want to determine what the motivation of this man was. whether there are any others out there that might be connected to
him that might be planning similar attacks. this of course comes when the counter-terrorism investigation is already extremely high. we had that terrible attack, similar in nature to terms of the van used to plow down people on the london bridge before the knife attack. and the manchester arena attacks. countless plots interrupted or foiled by the security services. the police resources are stretched to the limit. this before we even consider all of the resources that were required for the terrible tragedy at the tower. police telling us they are making extra police resources available to put on extra patrols around mosques and
islamic cultural centers around the capital. it may be in other towns and cities across the country there will be extra police resources as well because people within the muslim community are quite rightly concerned at this time. people will be making up turning on the television wondering how much more pain this country can take. what was more interesting is the arrest of this moon. my understanding is local people here had him before turning him over to the police. >> he was moved to the ground. he was initially set upon this crowd before the imam from that local mosque very well known in this area.
the imam came out and managed to sort of calm down the crowd. told them to keep ahold of this man until the police arrived on the scene. ite witnesses said this man shouted he wanted to kill muslims. our sky helicopters showingerrer forensic tent on the ground where a spot where one person sadly died. another 10 were injured and 8 have been taken to area hospitals. two were treated on the scene and didn't require hospital treatment. we don't know how body it was. they were taken to three different hospitals.
>> political reaction to this has been extremely swift. the. he said this is a terrible incident and all my thoughts and prayers are with those who were injured. jeremy lives just a short way down this road. he has been here for much of the night offering his support. he said. we are hearing the prime minister will chair a meeting later. >> it will be later this morning. hoping to find out what happened. cobra we normally think of as being reserved for emergencies. it seems like it's been in almost constant sessions.
of course, on the third of june with the london bridge attacks and that appalling fire we saw last week, now the finsbury park mosque attack. so a month of sorrow for the whole country. the prime minister and the home secretary in particular and we had a general election in the middle of it. so a ferocious pace which is only going to get worse. we'll have reaction from the london mayor sadiq kahn. the london brng attack on the third of june. he said this juan a deliberate attack on incident londoners. of course i think politicians
from all side of the political spectrum, the constituency are seeking to reassure various elements of the community that in fact there were questions raised as to why it took quite so long for the metropolitan police to declare this a terrorist indent. that was something the. he want to address to insure community tensions are eased in what will doubtless be a difficult day. reporter: the leaders we have spoken to said there has been a big rise in islamophobia in recent week given everything that's happened in this country. many saying they would like to see a bigger police presence outside mosques. but we know thing are incredibly stretched at the moment. it would be difficult for the government to organize.
>> absolutely. as we have seen with reaction to the fire last week, just how stretched and difficult thing are at the moment for emergency services. i was thinking this morning to think of a comparable period of such a number of concerted terrorist attacks and other incident that have put such a strain on emergency services. i can't think of one. and so clearly the emergency services in london and around the country will be stretched. in france, for example, the "charlie hebdo" and the bataclan attacks, and the mock and synagogue are under constant village lens and watch by security services, army officers and so on. i suspect it's not something the british security services and home office and the prime minister want to do nightly.
they don't want to put armed soldiers in the streets of london, ring site. that will make evenings worse -- religious sites. that will be something people will look at in the weeks and months ahead. but yet clearly, an unprecedented period in terms of the strain under which the security services and the wider emergency services are operati operating. >> many thanks indeed. for now, thank you. i want to play you an interview we are did earlier on sky news with an eyewitness who was here just moments after this attack happened. his name is mohammad abdullah. >> i was doing a delivery over the fence.
the action came from the side of the road. he came in the fast lane and took a sharp left. reporter: this was a man drying the van? >> yes. reporter: and from what you saw he veered off the bus lane targeting the people leaving the mosque? >> yes. i saw people getting hit. it was three of them. two of them ran away. there were a lot of people to get hip out. so the police came. i have seen about 6 or 7 people on the floor.
soon they finish this guy came. and then [inaudible] reporter: they sent a specialist unit dealing with trauma. we have seen attacks like this in london. >> we should not see in the world anymore. it's on the side of the road. reporter: mow happen edabdullah there describing what he saw. to give you a sense of what's happening now. the any investigation is haven't ongoing. we'll show you aerial pictures of the scene where this potential terrorist attack took place, the muslim welfare house in finsbury park. a tent has, erected outside.
this is now a crime scene, and there is a huge police presence. a busy part north london. it will be well known to many in the capital. it's a transport hub. it will get busier with rush hour. jackie: you are listening to our sister network sky news. one person is dead, 10 injured in a vehicle attack. you are looking at that truck, the big white truck in the middle of your screen. one person is in custody. well continue to follow this story and bring you the latest when we get it. u can't have any. because looking good on stage is one thing. but real confidence comes from feeling good out there. get a free sample at depend.com.
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chris: chilling footage from wednesday's attack on the gop congressional baseball practice that left four people shot, including a member of congress and the gunman dead. and it's time now for our sunday group. fox news senior political analyst brit hume, columnist for the hill, juan williams, julie pace, the the new washington bureau chief for the associated press -- congratulations, julie -- >> thank you very much. [applause] [laughter] >> congratulations. chris: anyway, and washington examiner contributor lisa boothe. no, it does deserve applause. brit, obviously, nobody can directly link this attack, the actions of a deranged man to the political climate in washington, but why is have things turned so venomous here over the years, and is there any way to stop it? >> chris, i think that congressman davis had it part right and part wrong, because i think the poisonous political climate and the poisonous
language with which people who disagree speak of each other is as much -- expect attitudes on capitol hill -- are as much a reflection of what's in the country as they are a cause of it. and we hear people speak of each other today in twitter, in political debate in a way that never used to be the case to this extent. people don't really disagree. they think the other party, the other side is evil and must be stopped. this is really something new. we need to keep a civil tongue in america and recognize the humanity and the decency of the other side. and what we have is the most vicious sort of name calling. and it doesn't help when the president -- who has certainly been a victim of this himself -- adds to it with the force of his own rhetoric. peopling, you know, you've got lyin' ted and crooked hillary and bad people he says are investigating him. so it all feeds and contributes to this climate of rage and hate
of the two political viewpoints that predominate in this cub. it's poison -- in this country. it's poison. chris: there was an interesting story in "the new york times" this year x a stud found that people -- i'm not talking about politicians, i'm talking about voters -- >> right. chris: -- they used to basically have no use for each other, now they hate each other. it was a thermometer from 1-100 and your feelings, and the average now was 0, that's how ice cold their feelings are for people of the other party. i guess the question is how do you change it? >> well, i think you have to understand that the confirmation bias that exists in terms of media content, where do you get your information from and are you live anything a bubble, it's almost become secure in this area of the internet that people look for points of view that affirm their pre-existing prejudices. friday was an versely of lincoln's famous a house divided against itself cannot stand speech. i feel like we're in that moment.
this is one of the most divided moments just by live anything this community that i've -- living in this community that i've ever experienced in all my years in washington. you know, the part that is so, i think, damning was spoken by jim mattis, the defense secretary, recently. he was asked what worries him the most. he didn't say any military enemy, he said it was the divisions among us as americans, the failure to talk, to listen, to be able to come to compromise and some solution. he said we can't go on like this because what we fight for in the military are american principles and values, and yet those are shattered. chris: president trump made several appeals this week for unity. here was his weekly address. >> though we have our differences, what unites us is so much stronger; our love of our country, our devotion to its people. now more than ever these values must guide us and bring us closer together.
chris: julie, do they feel any responsibility in the white house? do you hear any talk about that for this division? obviously, it didn't start with donald trump, but i think as brit would say, a number of people would feel that he has added to it. and is there any sign that the president, for all of that talk, intends to dial back his rhetoric? >> well, i think if you look at the way the president handled the immediate aftermath of the shooting, his remarks not only there, but also in the diplomatic room hours after this happened, it was measured, responsible and sober x then you look at some of his tweets, and he's going back to calling hillary clinton crooked hillary. he does not seem to believe that any of the rhetoric that we've heard from him both during the campaign and as president has contributed to this heightened sense of tension that we have between these parties. and i don't anticipate that you're going to see a dramatic shift from him, though again, i do think that he handled the immediate aftermath in a very responsible way. chris: now, we should point out
there's plenty of blame to go to both sides, because on the oh side you've got -- other side you've got that tasteless, on the left, photo op by kathy griffin, not funny. and then you also have a production of julius caesar, shakespeare in the mark -- park in new york city, where julius caesar, as you can see, looks just like donald trump. there's plenty of hate on the left as well, isn't there, lisa? >> yes, there absolutely is. you had members of congress who were on the field in the aftermath calling for unity. yet i question the sincerity of some on the left of also those calls for unity. you had the day after the shooting minority leader nancy pelosi, when asked if the political culture, if it was equally afflicting the left and the right, proceeded to attack republicans going back to 1990 calling them the sanctimonious republicans. mind you, this is the day after a known bernie sanders supporter
proceeded to carry out that exact thing. this also comes on the heels of october 2016, a gop office fire bombed. february, 2017, a 71-year-old staffer of dana rohrabacher knocked unconscious. may 2017 -- chris: i know, we could also point to gabrielle giffords being shot -- >> but there was no, there was no known link between the shooter and the tea party, yet you even had "the new york times" editorial board -- chris: are you really suggesting it's all on one side? >> no, i'm not saying that. i'm saying when posed this question by minority leader nancy pelosi, the simple answer would have been yes. >> chris, these are politicians. they lead to some extent, but they also follow. and the divisions that you see play out on capitol hill and elsewhere in this town, the white house as well, are a function of the sentiments of constituents. that's why, for example, you don't have any real effort to make a deal on capitol hill on
the part of democrats with trump, because their constituents think trump is utterly evil and unsuited for office x they don't want any part of him. that is a reflection. the causes of that go much deeper, but it's not -- the leaders can lead, and it takes a great one to lead us out of this if that's going to happen. but they also are following. and it's the broad climate in the country op both sides -- on both sides that is responsible. chris: all right. we have to take a break here. we'll see you all a little later. up next, the president tweets he's under investigation. a member of mr. trump's legal team joins us live. ♪
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the fact that they were looking into trump associates and the russians in regard to russia. but meanwhile, behind the scenes telling him that he himself is not under investigation while everyone else is calling for impeachment for him. then you have the former fbi director leaking memos, as he said, to force a special counsel investigation. when he took instruction from loretta lynch to call it a matter as opposed to investigation, and now he's allegedly being looked at for
obstruction of justice despite what senator risch pointed out in his testimony. i think calling this a witch hunt is a smart political strategy looking at all those things. chris: all right. enough about all of this. we're going to talk about one of the real subjects affecting people's lives that you all want to hear about, and i want to turn to president trump announcing this week that he is partially rolling back president obama's opening of diplomatic and economic ties to cuba. here he is. >> america has rejected the cuban people's oppressors. they are rejected. officially today, they are rejected. chris: brit, how significant is the president's decision really when you consider the fact that, yes, he is rolling back some things, on the other hand to, the u.s. embassy in havana is going to stay open, u.s. airlines and cruise ships are still going to be able to serve the island. >> what he did is he dialed back part of the outreach of cue a
baa, a signal -- cue -- cuba. there's not going to be any real detente between washington and havana. but, you know, it was not -- he called it a complete rollback, reversal. it wasn't really a reversal. chris: we asked you for questions for the panel x we got this on facebook from pamela murray who writes: what benefit did we gain by changing the policies in the first place? juan, how do you answer pamela? and specifically, the question of after president obama in 2014 had this opening, this effort to reach out to the castro regime did they really release the, you know, ease up on the repression, political repression in the country? >> short answer to pamela is, no. the thing is, i'm going to say this on a very personal level, i was somewhat conflicted. i was a critic of the obama rapprochement because, to me, my family had experiences in latin
america with these castro-like dictators. it's not healthy, it's repression x. it's repression that leads to political prisoners, as you were describing. but the thing is, chris, you have 50-plus years of failed u.s. policy with regard to cuba that has not led to the release of political prisoner, increased human rights or even pressed freedoms in cuba. so the idea that you would have -- and this is specifically in answer to pamela -- an infusion of americans with american values, american capitalism and american democracy coming into cuba, challenging the way of life, giving people new reason for hope is, to me, a significant change. and one of the realities -- chris: but you agree that in the two and a half years it was in place, it didn't actually change -- >> no, no, i think it changed. if you care about the cuban people, yes, there was change. did press freedoms increase? no. but this is a slow and steady process, and there was no change in the previous 55 years.
>> chris, this has has been an enduring debate as to how to deal with these dictatorial regimes. one theory holds if you open up commerce, eventually that will have a democratizing effect. results from china, i think, are mixed at best as to whether that's effective. i think it's worth a try. cuba's a somewhat different case because, you know, they have a 920s economy there -- 1920s economy there, and the early indications is at least on the political suppression, it has not ended. i think it remains to be seen whether the commerce will have the effect we hope it will have, but there's no certain answer as to whether that works or not. chris: julie, in the white house how do the trump officials, advisers reconcile his call and his defense of human rights in cuba with a few weeks back when he was in the middle east, his silence on that issue when he was in saudi arabia? >> it's a pretty jarring contrast.
i was on that trip in saudi arabia, and this is a country that other u.s. presidents have dealt with despite their pretty grim human rights record. so it's not as though trump is the first person to do it. but he completely ignored the human rights violations when he was on that trip. yet we hear him talking about cuba and saying this is a human rights issue. you can look at this two ways. you can say this is sip call and just an attempt to try to roll back something that obama did, or you could look at people like marco rubio and other lawmakers who truly believe this is a human rights issue and have been putting a lot of pressure on this white house. >> one important difference, cuba's an american adversary, for sure. has been forever. saudi arabia's an ally -- >> yeah, but i think cuba's our neighbor, and they haven't posed a direct threat to us, and it's time to for change. the younger generation in florida of cubans, they're for obama's plan. it's the older generation that, i think, is still entrenched in the hatred and anger. chris: let's not disthe older
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