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we have sheila jackson. she wants president trump to resign over the tweet but she says she won't be voting for anything until he dies. this could get interesting. on fox business, where we mean business. >> eboni: i am eboni k. williams with kat timpf and eric bolling and we are the fox news specialists. we are awaiting two big house votes to help combat illegal immigration which is at the center of president trump's immigration agenda. kate's law and new funding for -- no funding for sanctuary cities. they give powerful remarks about the importance of the bills. because we are against illegal aliens and illegal alien
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criminals were amongst us. we are americans fighting for you. we are americans fighting that none of this happens to any other american and it shouldn't. and i think everyone of us needs to really do a check on your conscience if your fellow american doesn't mean as much to you as an illegal criminal does. because the legislation is not about a political party. it's about the safety of an -- safety of america. we have to forget about partisan politics and vote what's best for every american citizen into law. >> eboni: we talked yesterday about the personalizing of the legislation, and doesn't get any more personal than that. >> eric: four big immigration bills being voted on probably during the hour but hopefully will get one of them. the sanctuary city bill law, the first one may be in the next few
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minutes or so, and then kate's law. a couple other big things happening today. north korea's bank sanctions came out this afternoon and also the travel ban goes into effect. it's a huge newsday. >> eboni: huge newsday, kat. >> kat: good thing the president didn't do anything to distract from that. >> eboni: we will meet today's specialist. he was a national campaign manager for president reagan's reelection in 1984 and served in the administrations of nixon, ford, reagan, bush 41. he specializes in everything politics. the legend ed rollins is here. he is a film producer, partner at free think and cohosts a syndicated podcast. he specializes in -- kmele foster is here.
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>> it is a privilege to be here with young brilliant people, and you too eric. >> eric: i was going to give you a compliment. ed rollins was at the head of the campaign that won 49 states, the reagan campaign. you took out on walter mondale who won one state. >> eboni: you did. >> ronald reagan said, what happened to minnesota? i said, we have to put nuclear waste somewhere. there's a lot of lakes in minnesota. obviously we didn't do that. >> eboni: we can see those family members and it goes beyond a red-blue issue like so many hyper- partisan things. >> when you read the bill it's a very simple bill. if you sneak back into the country three times and you have committed a felony.
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you could possibly go to jail for ten years. this ought to be a slam dunk vote that every member of congress should vote for. it will pass the house. the senate, they are a few votes short but i would sense every senator who is not going to vote for this and the democratic side, this is going to become a big issue. >> eric: why would it be -- why would it fall short in the senate? >> ed: i think we are going to get -- it's not -- there's about 55. we picked up two or three since the last time. >> eboni: he talks about the last time, obviously this is not the first time kate's law was attempted to pass. there were three democrats that got onboard but still fell short. when you hear these mothers and family numbers talk about this so compassionately, if you had a message to the democrats that were hesitant for whatever reason, what would you tell them to get them on board? >> kmele: i don't know what i
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would tell them to get on board. i am not particularly excited about it. >> eboni: tell me why. >> kmele: part of the concern is clearly we all are concerned about violent crime. want to see it reduced. i'm not certain this legislation is actually, actually does a great deal where this is concerned. i think the president has had concerns and talked about illegal immigration but i'm not certain that that's fueling violent crime. i think there are plenty of issues we could talk about if that's our concern. this isn't really one of them. >> eric: you don't think it would be a deterrent that you could face five? >> kat: i agree with you, kmele. if we are talking five years. this is not not me or kmele cog out on the side of people who commit violent crimes but we are talking about someone whose family is still here, they are probably not going to let five year stop them from coming back. >> kmele: this would not have saved kate's life, which is important. >> eric: how do you know that?
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>> kmele: this is someone who had gone to jail multiple times. he had been caught every time he tried to sneak in. >> eric: under the new law, you get caught again. kate's killer was caught five separate times. >> eboni: let me say this. i have dealt with i.c.e. and all of this to promote criminal defense standpoint. what would have happened under the hypothetical -- i don't know that it's true that kate's killer -- -- he came back. let's say the second time if this law would have been done because the law proposes if you are convicted of a felony, you come back over here and you're looking it up ten years, three misdemeanors you would face ten years. fallone, that's what i'm saying. second or third time. >> kat: i don't have a problem with it. i'm just saying i'm not sure how, what percentage of overall crime this presents.
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>> ed: this is about criminals who come across the border and commit crimes a second or third time. obviously they had to be treated in a way that's -- >> eboni: aggressive. >> ed: sanctuary cities. i ran a campaign against dianne feinstein when she was mayor of -- iran teddy roosevelt's race. do you really want to go back? dianne feinstein decided she wasn't going to let federal officers come in. she started a sanctuary city. how can you have people coming here illegally and committing crimes in cities and site were not going to let federal officials take them out. >> eric: the law that you're breaking, coming across the border illegally. why is that the law we are protecting. armed robbery. >> eboni: i will tell you why. because it's treated civilly and that's the thing. if you come over here and maybe that's a different issue but right now it's only a civil offense and not considered
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criminal. during the address today in washington, president trump pivoted to tout his support fors legislation. >> the vicious and disgusting and horrible ms-13 gang members, and we are getting them out. we are getting them out. they're going. fast. general kelly and his whole group, they have gotten rid of 6,000 so far. we are about 50% there, and we are actually liberating towns. >> eboni: kmele, to you on this one. the sanctuary cities thing, different jurisdictions. your position on their right to do that. >> kmele: there are some constitutional issues to be sure. the supreme court has talked about the right of states to be able to pursue their own policies to not have the federal government effectively take punitive actions against them by withholding things in order to
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force them to do something. i would say this is a pretty important issue but again, i returned to the central issue. if our concern is violent crime, if our concern is places like chicago, baltimore that have dealt with huge surges in crime, shouldn't we be looking at the things that are actually driving the trend. for example, the war on drugs. something that attorney general sessions is doubling down on. [all speaking] let's talk about how often the president has talked about criminal justice. let's talk about how often the president has talked about meaningful improvements in prosecuting the drug war. >> eric: criminal justice reform. >> kmele: he hasn't talked about it. >> eboni: he didn't run on it. >> kat: looking at drug gang violence, a better way to deal with it would be ending the drug war. if you look at alcohol, which is something that makes people angry, violent, it can kill
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people. there is a reason why there is not maker's mark versus jack daniels knife wars in the streets. there is not an underground market for it. >> eboni: they are voting on the sanctuary cities piece of legislation. kat, i hear you but the issue is, it's not either/or. when we talk about, from a punitive standpoint, if you break the law, in a violent way that results in a felony, while northwood we have anything other than a very aggressive penalty when you come back over here? >> kat: i don't have a problem with kate's law. i don't have a sympathy for the people who commit these crimes. i think we should focus on big picture solutions. >> eboni: at the exclusion of this issue? >> eric: that's like saying -- enforce all of them.
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>> kmele: i think it's a false equivalency. the attorney general has been doubling down on the drug war. he has been instituting policy. >> eric: you can't say i'm wrong and then say sessions is is -- >> kmele: i am giving you the reason why. >> eric: i agree with your own criminal justice reform. but i also think kate's law is a mandatory must pass, has to go through. keep the country safer. >> kmele: i understand the argument you're making. my argument, to be clear, in a narrow sense, this particular law is not going to have a dramatic impact on crime. >> eric: in your opinion. >> kmele: i've seen zero analysis that suggests there's a wave of immigrant driven violent crime. >> eboni: i think we are not talking about a wave. we are talking about instances where we know for a fact people have been raped, murdered,
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killed at the hands of people who are here illegally. if there something we can do to make it less likely, shouldn't we do it? >> kmele: one wonders if this law will accomplish it. >> eboni: i don't wonder. i know it. >> ed: we are taking these gangs off the streets. vicious gangs. do you think they're going to stand the other side of the border? the moment they get a chance, they will be back again and we need to have more than just simple things to take care of these people. every law enforcement person in the world wants this and i've been around the game a long time. we've been fighting the drug war since the reagan days. it's very, located. certainly, it is the underlying part of all of this but you have to take it step-by-step and these two bills are important. >> eric: idol that you can say because we need criminal justice reform we shouldn't have kate's law. you want to talk about a false equivalency. >> kmele: i don't think that's the argument i'm making. the narrow argument is we aren't actually talking about those
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other important reforms. the president has been beating this drum relentlessly while pursuing other policies that are actually making the drug war worse. >> eric: do you think kate's law has merit? >> kmele: sure. the legislation could have merit if it were clear that this was a unique problem that needed to be addressed. i'm not sure there are many violent offenders -- >> eboni: is there a quota? >> kmele: we have are citizen rates that are high. would you -- recidivism rates. >> eboni: what i am saying is, i have seen it. once you commit a violent crime in this country. if we take a plea deal, it's going to affect their immigration status.
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so we move forward. you don't then get to say never mind. i want to come back and whatever happens happens. that's not the advantage. i agree with you both of you on criminal justice reform. politically speaking, that's not what this president ran on. >> eric: it is not one or the other. if you had criminal justice reform, you might be more effective in implementing laws like kate's law. >> eboni: appears this has passed. that's what we are hearing. this is sanctuary cities. >> eric: that was the tougher hurdle. >> kat: i'm not saying theoretically you can't have both. i don't think kmele is saying that either. what i am saying is that in this administration it's clear that's not going to be the approach. >> eboni: that's not the agenda of this administration. >> eric: discuss the merits of kate's law and saints were cities of you are bringing in an attack on the trump dealing with -- >> kat: i am using my critical
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thinking skills to provide alternate solutions. >> eboni: why does it have to be an ultimate solution? >> kmele: it is supposed to be about reducing violent crime. >> eboni: maybe that's what we are having. i am not seeing this as a solution for reducing violent crime. i am seeing it as a follow-through stuff that says when you commit a violent felony, you don't get to come back. >> ed: you have to get away from the several. if you're going to put people out of the country because they are here illegally, you have to move it from civil to criminal. you are never going to stop the illegals coming across the border. if you're going to have the comprehensive -- this was cash trump picked this follow-up. there's a lot of other things in criminal justice he's going to do. >> eboni: we hope we see that. we will keep you posted on kate's law. that should be coming up soon but first president trump's partially restored travel ban coming into effect tonight.
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>> kat: the house bill on defunding sanctuary cities has unofficially passed. we are awaiting a vote on kate's law and will give you the results when it happens. at 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight, president trump pasta b.s. partially restored travel ban goes into effect. -- president trump's partially restored travel ban goes into effect. applicants from the six countries must prove a relationship with a parent, spouse, child, adult son or daughter, son-in-law, daughter-in-law or sibling in the u.s. to be eligible. similar rules apply to refugee applicants from all nations. >> eboni: i don't like it. when you use this language, the bona fide relationship. they don't define it. that was an extensive list but it doesn't have grandma's, third
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cousins once removed. >> eric: my best friend's brother. >> kat: i have a bona fide relationship with the guy at the deli that i order from. he's seen me at my worst. >> ed: the reality is that the court decision was important. the real decision will come in october. there will be a full hearing but the most boring thing, and most of you probably don't know this. 670 district judges, almost 900 federal judges of all kinds. what the court has said is the president has more power on this matter than any federal judge doesn't. since 1960, there have been over 40 things like this so the reality is this is a temporary ban. the president has the authority to do it. >> eric: the other reality is that this record found this portion of the temporary travel
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ban was constitution. constitutional. there was a unanimous decision and the only dissenters. we were talking about it. they were a couple dissenters and they were conservative judges for the only dissent they had was it wasn't a full allowing of the travel ban to go through. >> ed: it was important to get online. >> eboni: shows it's not political. it's a rare thing in today's society that's not partisan. >> kmele: i am skeptical of the efficacy of the travel ban but i agree the president has the authority to do it. this is, as you stated, it's typical and conventional in the sense that the president has the discretion. the reason i'm concerned is because ostensibly this is supposed to be about keeping americans safe. i am not certain that it will do that. i am concerned that this is, like the tsa, a bit of security.
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>> kat: security theater. >> eric: it doesn't have to. it just needs to be constitutional. >> kat: i agree it's constitutional. i have always said that anybody who thinks this is in earnest a muslim ban, it would be a bad one. i agree with kmele. if you look in the past, would this have prevented anyone from dying? it wouldn't have. we don't know about the future but i don't feel safer. just like you said, the tsa security theater. >> ed: in these countries, you don't have a process. you don't have the manpower in the system to do the processing. it has to be fixed. >> eric: let's show you. kate's law is being voted on. says there's 3 minutes left, so we are going to give you the final answer in this block. >> eboni: it is around intention. i tend to agree with kmele and
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kat on this. i don't think it makes us safer. the constitutional sense is if it's designed to keep us safer and intended to have national security benefits which i think it does. >> kat: fulfilling a campaign promise. he wants to be tough on terror guy. i wasn't making a judgment. i'm just saying that's what i think this is more about. >> eric: we don't know that either. let me be -- maybe it does make us safer. maybe they take the 90 days and say there is a loophole we didn't realize that's been here and guess what. we are going to close the loophole and keep terrorists out. i am for going over the bounds on being more safe. >> eboni: you like being safer safer. >> kat: it appears the house has enough votes to pass kate's law.
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>> eric: the big initiatives we were looking at, sanctuary city law passed and kate's law passes the house. as ed points out there's a little bit more of a hurdle in the senate. i didn't realize they needed 60 votes. >> ed: it is not reconciliation. >> kat: kate's law, in terms of what the problems would be, i don't have a problem with it. >> kat: >> eboni: i think it ist resist. >> kat: because it is trump? some people are just going to get mad because they are petty. a big sweetener added to the senate health care bill to get more republicans on board but is it enough to reach a new deal before tomorrow? stay tuned. once upon a time a girl with golden locks broke into a house owned by three bears. she ate some porridge, broke the baby bear's chair,
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>> eric: were looking at the floor of the u.s. house of representatives where they just passed two laws may trump administration was pushing for. sanctuary city law, kate's law. that's in the books and may well head to the senate where my good friend ed rollins tells me it needs 60 votes. republican leaders in the senate launching a full court press to secure a new health care deal by tomorrow. today they announced the big incentive to get more republicans on board, promising $45 billion in spending to help fight opioid abuse. attended to try to win support from the senator from ohio and west virginia. both states are being ravaged by the opioid abuse epidemic grid white house reacting to proposals this afternoon. >> i can tell you the president has obviously made fighting the opioid crisis of priority for him. i would imagine he would be
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supportive of pushing resources towards it. >> eric: can this help senate leaders lock up a new deal by tomorrow? let's go to the man who's been around politics for a heck of a long time. ed, they are a long way away. >> ed: the bottom line is, there is at least ten who have been publicly saying they're not for it. on this provision, the good senator from west virginia has not made a determination. she wanted it but she hasn't said yes. my sense is they have a lot of swapping to go. i don't think they can make the deadline. the bill would not pass today and it certainly will not pass in the senate. they have a lot of work. probably better to go home and try and fix it when they come back. >> eric: they offer $45 billion to buy two senators' votes. >> eboni: it is a band-aid approach. $45 billion price tag is not going to remedy this devastating
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problem. there's no way they make this deadline by tomorrow. it is too little and far too late. >> eric: rand paul said he met with president trump i believe yesterday. i think he met with vice president pence today and offered an idea. split the health care bill in two. one that favors the conservative wing of the republican party, one that favors the more moderate wing. >> kat: i guess we could do that. throwing all this money at opioid addiction should solve the problem from everything we've seen in the past. it's a mess. they're going to do it by tomorrow? it's been a political disaster for republicans. how are you going to get the super conservative people and moderates to agree on anything. i don't see how it's going to be possible. >> eric: i saw a poll today, maybe somewhere under 20%. 17% thinks this is the good
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idea. >> kmele: deeply problematic. the merits have not been proved and the real question here is where we were rushing to try to transform an industry overnight with a poorly thought out piece of legislation? haven't we seen this before? it doesn't work out well. >> kat: this is why republicans got elected because democrats blew it so bad with obamacare now we are making all the same mistakes on the republican side. slow down. >> ed: the mistake they made us they wanted to get the tax money out of this provision to they could do their tax reform. if i was running the show, i would've done tax reform early on and infrastructure but at the end of the day, this is where we are. i don't think this is going to go. i don't think it's going to work. >> eboni: hitching one wagon to the other. >> ed: splitting them, then you have two failed bills. >> eric: you think so?
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>> kat: welcome back to "the fox news specialists." our specialists today are ed rollins and kmele foster. president trump being given a fresh set of military options to confront north korea over its nuclear and ballistic missile program. national security advisor h.r. mcmaster is laying out the urgency of the problem. >> the threat is much more immediate now and so it's clear that we can't repeat the same approach, failed approach of the past. the president has directed us to not do that. enter prepare a range of
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options, including a military option, which nobody wants to take. >> kat: this afternoon, treasury secretary steven mnuchin announced new sanctions targeting north korea including the blacklisting of a chinese bank. believed to have illicit ties to the rogue state. in the next hour, president trump and the first lady will meet with south korea's new president of the white house. eric. >> eric: good start. talked about china getting involved. exerting some pressure on the crazy wacko dictator in north korea. we have one bank and to individuals. you have to really, really get deep into it and china has to get more aggressive. here's part of the other problem. they are meeting with the south korean president. he's not being very helpful lately, is he? >> ed: he is not as pro-american as some of them have been. the problem is, there are no good options. this goes back to 1952.
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every president has looked at this. they have been -- seoul is so close. if you ever start an activity in north korea, we have the weapons to take them out in a heartbeat but they can kill 20 million people in a short. of -- in a short period of time. it's a very heavy, catastrophic war we would have in modern times. >> eboni: eric, you have talked about the pressure on china. particularly if we want to avoid the military option. i was happy to see steven mnuchin speak. we have to start somewhere with the economic sanctions. it felt too thin for me to have any real impact. >> eric: much more. i think president obama put more sanctions on russia when he left office over something far less dangerous in my opinion than the
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crazy dictator. >> ed: these people have been starving for a long time. the chinese are the key and they don't want to play there. that's the reality of it. that's why we are having these discussions. >> kmele: conversations about trying to find a bold, new approach here. i don't know that there is one. there is the status quo and it exists because of the carnage that could possibly happen. i wonder if what we are seeing from south korea is less hostility to the united states in particular and more specifically a genuine concern that this administration might be more willing to look at the military option. i think the president has at least trying to posture that way. i have no reason to believe that he is actually interested in picking that particular military fight. >> ed: you have a new president who would like to have better relations with the north. >> eric: explained to me, and
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or kmele, why south korea would turn away our missile defense system. >> ed: the chinese are not happy about it. obviously they have still got to play in the same sandbox. >> eboni: there is something about the status quo. i think it brings people comfort, eric. i don't know. that's what history tells me. >> eric: when president obama was first elected in 2009 the biggest nuclear bomb they tested was 2 megatons. when president obama left office, the last one prior to him living with 10 megatons. that's not status quo. that is deadlier and deadlier. >> eboni: you know i agree with you. but i am not comfortable waiting for the worst-case scenario to happen. i just can't see people getting on board with what it would take, the carnage were talking about, the unintended consequences perhaps that would
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ensue if indeed we got in front of this thing. >> ed: there are a lot of options besides weapons, the cyber stuff and we could create chaos. >> kat: building up our missile defense system. here's the thing. when you talk about going and doing a strike against them. you were upset about otto warmbier. you wanted to get in there. there would be so many dead people. >> eric: we don't know that. i will go back to the israelis and iraqis in 1981 with a surgically took out some of the nuclear proliferation capabilities without many casualties at all and the iraqis didn't attack israel. they didn't kill any people and they didn't attack. >> kat: this is something like we've never seen before. >> eric: they don't want the missile defense system.
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>> ed: we could put one ohio submarine there and blow up the entire country but we have all the people on the border. >> kat: i had come up president trump unleashing a pretty unbelievable attack on twitter against two msnbc hosts sparking a firestorm. will be right back. this is a story about mail and packages. and it's also a story about people and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget... that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you you're searching for something. like the perfect deal... ...on the perfect hotel. so wouldn't it be perfect if there was a single site where you could find the right hotel for you at the best price?
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>> eric: are way out of time already? we can't do this block? that's amazing. president trump going all men against the media critics today, taking on msnbc host joe scarborough and mika brzezinski. tweeting: "i heard poorly rated @morning_joe speaks badly of me. don't watch anymore. then how come low i.q. crazy mika, along with psycho joe, came to mar-a-lago 3 nights in a row around new year's eve, and insisted on joining me. she was bleeding badly from a face-lift. i said no!" the tweet sparked a serious backlash from the left and even some fellow republicans but the
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white house isn't backing down amid the uproar. >> the president has been attacked mercilessly on personal accounts on that program. i think he's been clear that when he gets attacked, he is going to hit back. i think the american people elected somebody who is tough, smart, and a fighter. that is donald trump. i don't think it's a surprise to anybody that he fights fire with fire. >> eric: thank you, producers, for giving me this segment. i am a very close friend of president donald trump and joe scarborough and mika brzezinski. give me two seconds. this will be the last i say of it. it is like two of your friends fighting. you want them to stop fighting and you can't figure out how so you come up with a solution. i came up with a solution to solve this. donald trump, joe scarborough, mika brzezinski. we know that mike and joe are
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going to get married. i will broker this deal. have donald trump marry you. >> kat: i don't think that's going to work. >> eboni: from a woman's perspective, and i appreciate the deputy press secretary talking about president trump being a fighter and people wanting a tough fighter. there is not a lot that's top about calling out somebody on their face left and once you do it, there's not a lot of turning back. i could see joe for giving it. >> eric: talking about the face-lift. >> kat: whatever, eric. oh, my gosh. eric, please. don't say that, because you don't think that. >> eric: maybe he was kidding. >> kat: maybe he was but he's not a fighter. face-lift, whatever. maybe she did, maybe she didn't but who cares. when i get older, i'm going to have somebody face-lift. i'm going to get all the plastic
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surgery in the world and i feel blessed i would hopefully have enough money to do so and have my face looking dope for as long as i can possibly have it. that shouldn't be an insult. >> eboni: by the time you need one and hopefully me too, it's going to be so much less invasive. >> kat: gets horrible. there's nothing good coming from attacking a woman's appearance. come on, eric. >> ed: you want trump to not do these things. it's a distraction where he's been doing it forever and he's not going to change. 70-year-old man don't change. i am 74, so i know that well. if he does for their show tomorrow which he did for you about your book saying it's a great book. i don't think that's going to happen but the reality is it's a distraction. he needs to get back on message. he's got big things he needs to move forward. it's going to be every day this is going to happen. >> eric: i'm going to stay this is optimistic.
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they should bury the hatchet and get back together and hang out and go to mar-a-lago and let donald trump marry them. the tent i will say this. clearly he is engaging, picking a nasty fight. unnecessary and it ought not happen. there are important, meaningful things that are worth criticizing the president about. i don't know that progressives who are angry at the president ought to latch onto this. they might talk about civilian casualty counts in military engagements. >> eric: did you notice, either one of you, on the right, we had jed busch, paul ryan, ben sasse and lindsey graham. four squishy anti-trump rhinos attacking the president. >> eboni: to ed's point, i was repaired to make an argument in
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defense of president trump. this has been a great week. you had three cnn journalist resigning. you've got "the new york times" looking a hot mess with the lawsuit with sarah palin. and then he sends out this twee tweet. >> kat: he knew this was going to happen. >> ed: you get in a fight with donald trump, you better be prepared for a bazooka. he knocked their teeth out and dumped them in the ditch. >> kat: i don't think this helps him. normally when you go into a fight, you don't try to destroy yourself. >> eric: distracted from some positive news. >> ed: he could be taking credit for this important legislation. that's what we should be discussing, how important it is. >> kat: don't be anti-face-lift. this is america. >> eric: i went to
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>> eboni: time to circle back with our specialists, ed rollins and kmele foster. quick update, the house passage of kate's law, president trump tweeting, saying "good news. house just passed kate's law paired hopefully senate will follow." and, the tweet. do you think it's going to quiet -- most of social media has been talking about. >> ed: the old advice we used to give clients, candidates, don't think out loud. donald trump's case, i would say don't tweet alone.
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>> eric: you have seen politicians. it is trump a politician? >> ed: he is an entertainer, a strong leader, and i think over time people are going to get used to it and measure him on how strong he is. >> kat: kmele, what do you think? trump, good day or bad day? >> kmele: good day perhaps but it's a weird standard. he has had so many strange days. self-induced controversies and tragedies he's had to deal with. i just want good policy. i want what's good for the country and i want to talk about policies that make sense. maybe one day i will sit down with him. could you connect us? >> eric: will you give him good advice? >> kmele: of course, it's me. >> eboni: thank you to ed rollins and kmele foster. thank you for watching. follow us at specialistsfnc on twitter and facebook. 5:00 will never be the same. "special report" is up next.
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>> president trump goes to war with cable news again and one of his weapons in the war on terror takes effect tonight. this is "special report" ." good evening. i am bill hemmer in tonight for bret baier. where less than two hours from the official implementation of president trump's travel ban. it will severely limit refugees from half a dozen mostly muslim countries from entering our country. it is certainly a win for the president and that comes in a night when he's engaged in a different kind of battle. one in which even some of his ally say he may have crossed a line. we begin with chief white house correspondent john roberts joining us at the


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