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live in charlotte. thanks for inviting us into our home tonight. that's it for this special report. fair, balanced, unafraid. no online show tonight. "the story" hosted by martha maccallum starts right now. ♪ >> martha: breaking tonight, president trump begins the most important process of his first year. everything is writing now on a successful new tax-cut plan for america. health care is no back burned until january or the president. it was a pride-swallowing night in alabama. a win here for the white house is now essential as the president tries to get this thing back on track. the plan aims to slash taxes to the middle class, let people keep more of your paycheck, eliminate loopholes that the tax accountants just love. and cut down the process so regular folks can do their taxes. watch this. >> americans waste so much
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money, billions and billions of dollars and many hours each year to comply without ridiculous ry complex tax code. if more 90% of americans use assistance to prepare their taxes. under our framework, the vast majority of families will be able to file their taxes on a single sheet of paper. [cheers and applause] >> martha: that one got a lot of applause. the brand-new fox news pole hot off the presses that shows that people like these ideas. 38% want a complete overhaul of the federal tax system. 51% say it does need some changes, 8%, they say i think it works pretty well, i kind of like it. reaction tonight from former speaker of the house newt gingrich who led the republican revolution in 1994 in taxpayer relief and welfare reform in the late '90s so he knows of what he speaks. first we go to ed henry live at the white house with how the tax plan may help you if they
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managed to pass this thing. hi! >> good evening, martha. moving quickly after yet another health care defeat to try and get some points on the board, president trump is proposing a massive tax-cut, the biggest in decades. some estimates tagging it at about $6 trillion over the next ten years but there are questions tonight about exactly how he's going to pay for it. if the today in indianapolis saying that he's not going to benefit from this plan at all insisting this will not help the rich, instead, he says, it's a once in a generation opportunity to help the middle class. the president specifically pitching massive changes, cutting the corporate tax rate from 35% down to about 20%. consolidate seven different tax brackets for individuals down to a simpler three brackets. new brackets would range from 12%-35% down from the current highest personal rate of 39.6%.
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eliminate the estate tax, the standard deduction would double for many households, plus a larger child tax credit. and mention the price tag to pay for this, the president is talking about other changes, repealing personal exemptions, repealing the deduction for domestic manufacturing. possibly eliminating other corporate loopholes. eliminate the deduction for state and local taxes. that has produced a divided opinion among republicans, moderates like peter king saying eliminating the state and local tax deductions means worker faced double taxation while on the right and shot in the arm for a president. conservative congressman mark meadows, his all-important freedom caucus said they are endorsing the plan. moderate democrats and the blue dog coalition called it a good start but they warned republicans they could either have an open debate and find compromise or "continued on the same failed path as they did with health care by producing a bill that caters to the extremes of their party." after republican republican senator tim scott that everybody
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should calm down and focus on the big picture. >> if i could say it as simple as possible i would say that this tax reform conversation is about #keepyourmoney >> it certainly sounds appetizing but this is far from a done deal. the biggest hurdle for the president may simply be taking on that swamp he railed against during the campaign, the money he earned in washington want to keep the status quo. "the wall street journal" reminding us today that there are more than 4,000 tax lobbyists here in washington and what they want to do, what they get paid to do, martha, is to protect those tax breaks and loopholes that benefit their industries. >> martha: they certainly do, thank you very much. former speaker of the house newt gingrich is fox news political contributor, a new online course on defending america and wrote the book "understanding from." good to see you tonight. your overall impression of the plan? do like it? >> it's a remarkable achievement.
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a few of the president of the united states, the speaker of the house, the senate majority leader, they are all talking for the same notes, they are describing the same tax cuts. they all have the same commitment to middle-class tax cuts to small business tax cuts to economic growth. this is the opposite of what we saw all spring and i give president trump and speaker ryan and leader mcconnell a lot of credit. they have really worked hard along with the chairman of the ways and means committee, kevin brady and orrin hatch. to get one core position that moves forward and frankly i think ed had it pretty right. this is going to be a debate between would you like the money in your pocket or do you want to send the money to the swamp and i think a number of democrats when they go back home are going to discover if there's a pretty big majority back home that once the money in north dakota or indiana or missouri or montana to take some states as examples.
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they don't want the money to go back to the swamp. >> martha: they are all going to have to sort of sign on so that they are all on the same team if that's even humanly possible. last night we did the show from the rooftop in washington and i said to a couple of people that were up there with us, what's going on? every single rooftop there's a party going on tonight. it was lobby night. entertain your local lobbyist night. every rooftop around us, i'm not kidding. why weren't we invited and i figured out what it was. these people were not going to give in easily. they like a complicated the system is. how is that going to work? >> first of all, you mentioned earlier the 8% who like the current system, i think they probably are all accountants, tax lawyers and tax preparers but in addition to that, remember. what ronald reagan taught us back when i was a junior member, if you go to the american people, they drawn the lobbies.
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4,000 lobbies in washington, there are 315 million people in the united states. if the average small business person anywhere in america realizes this is a plan for a 40% reduction in the taxes for a small business. 40% reduction! that's real money. >> martha: that will encourage them -- exactly. hire more people, buy new machinery. >> may just say this, you will have 100 times as many small businesses call the average congressman as you will a lobbyist and the pressure, the more people understand that the more people are going to be for this tax bill. >> martha: chuck schumer is upset about what it will do to the debt. he feels like the growth target is not going to be met, 3%. >> [laughs] >> martha: he says is really concerned because he thinks it's going to drive up the national debt. and you laugh.
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>> chuck schumer trying to worry about the debt is like your favorite alcoholic explaining that the next beer could be a problem. chuck schumer hasn't has stirrs entire career for bigger government, more spending, higher debt, nice try, chuck. the fact is the average american is going to face a simple choice, do you want more take-home pay, this bill gives it to you. do you want more jobs? 's bill gives it to you. if you want american companies to be competitive in the world market? this bill gives it to you. do you want your favorite local small business to have a break, this bill does it. this is a very cleverly thought through bill. i think schumer's concerns will be drowned. >> martha: maybe so, but we all watched what happened with repeal and replace and we heard for seven years that everyone was on the same page, but they were speaking from basically the same script that they had differences in the way to go about it but everybody was going to repeal and replace so for those at home watching this and saying prove it to me, what do you say?
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>> first of all i can't prove it to you, time will tell. i will give you the basic difference. obamacare involved a series of very painful, difficult, complex choices and there were a lot of big powerful interest groups who did not want it to happen. this is very different. this is the swamp in washington wanting your money versus lower taxes for corporations to compete in the world market, lower taxes for small businesses to create jobs, lower taxes for the middle class to have more take-home pay. that's a lot easier sell than repealing obamacare and i have a hunch that the hard work that the gang of six but in between the white house, the house, and the senate, they are actually ready tonight to go out and campaign on this tax bill. >> martha: newt gingrich, thank you so much. good to see you. still to come tonight, a strange turn of events in alabama, you could say. >> we have a man who was going be a great senator and i'm very
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happy with that. >> martha: chris tile work dana perino here on what roy moore's win means for the future of the g.o.p. a shocking new investigation from the award-winning team behind behind the movie spotlight. what they just uncovered about the thousands of planes flying over our heads every day is downright frightening. plus, one of the winningest coaches in basketball history benched tonight by an fbi investigation as we tackle what's really behind the nfl anthem protest with some new statistics that shed light on the police killing claim and homicides in america when we come back. >> you have no idea what you're talking about! listen, you play a game! the people who die for that fly, it ain't a game. real life! that is real sacrifice!
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>> i spoke to him last night, i never met him, and never spoke to him. i'm very happy with him and i have to say it luther came a long way from the time i endorsed him, he ran a good race but roy ran a really good race. >> martha: that was president trump earlier, his candidate lost in alabama last night and that has some people
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questioning who really has the make america great again the crowd. it reports today suggest the president felt misled by senator mitch mcconnell on this whole thing who persuaded him to back the wrong horse, so to speak in luther strange. roy moore actually wrote his horse to vote and he has written his horse work over the many years. moore's win sparking questions about the president's own movement. congressman wrote this. the problem for the right populist nationalist wing is that the right people is a moving target. today it's mitch mcconnell, yesterday it was the media, tomorrow it might be donald trump himself. chris stirewalt, fox news politics at her and dana perino and a host of the new show, the daily briefing at 2:00, which we are all looking forward to. thanks you guys, great to have you both here. dana, let me start with you, your take away from what happened last night in alabama.
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>> i think a couple of things, one, these races look like national races in a way because it was the only election happening, it was special and it's covered all across the news. there's a temptation for some to say that shows exactly what's going to happen in 2018 all across the country and yet i think in alabama there were some very specific things going on. luther strange had been appointed by the disgraced outgoing governor, bentley. that was already sort of a taint. chris knows exactly what i'm talking about. roy moore was very popular in the state already. you could say there was a miscalculation by the senate republicans to say let's we endorse the incumbent, who had only been there for nine months because roy moore it was super popular in alabama. what's very interesting to me is that what i think this proved is in a republican primary you can run without the support of president trump, what you cannot do is run against
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president trump and neither moore nor strange ever did that. they all said that we are for president trump and he didn't even have to endorse. i think this might be a lesson for the white house, you don't have to endorse any farmers, let them fight it out. >> martha: perhaps a lesson for someone health care, but another story. chris, you say that you think now this sets up a very interesting race in alabama given roy moore's background. >> right. moore is a wild man. he is not afraid to say things that cause trouble for his fellow republicans when he talks about whether relations between people of the same gender are to be even be legal, when he says that god's law, trumps' man's law. this is a guide who refused to comply with an order from the united states supreme court. roy moore is going to be wilder than a peach orchard board on there and he's going to cause republicans heartburn. i don't think democrats can
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probably pull this seat off. they have about as good a nominee as he can have, tough on crime, former federal prosecutor, he will run to the middle. his only job in the whole world is to make it close enough really so that democrats can force what they did in 2012 with todd aiken, who said unfortunate things about actual assault. their only job is to force roy moore into the national conversation as much as possible and make republicans eat it. >> martha: exactly. that will be very interesting to watch as this things moves forward and it certainly wouldn't have been that kind of issue with luther strange. the stuff about the government would have been brought up in all that but this is a whole different ball game. >> is not like luther strange wasn't conservative. this is the interesting thing. when it comes to what you would actually vote on, conservatism seems to be changing from not just what you believe but how you present yourself, the style points are getting rewarded in some of these races. >> martha: chris, in terms of his make america great, who owns
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it thing, and the speculation that it could even turn on president trump, what do you make of that? >> there is certainly among his supporters and infantilism nation of the president. they treat him as if he doesn't -- among his core supporters here, steve bannon, sebastian gorka, former alaska governor sarah palin and others seem to say the president's tractor he doesn't understand what he really wants. we know what his agenda is better than him and in vandalizing the president is not always a good way to go because at a certain point trump will take offense and he does have considerable political clout, he still has the support of three quarters of the republican party and in alabama you can make it, you can feed him roy moore and have to eat it endocrine but in those other states or people like steve bannon, sarah palin don't have the kind of clout they do in alabama. >> martha: as dana said, the only person he couldn't run away from was donald trump, very interesting given all these numbers. thanks, great to see you both! >> you bet.
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>> martha: coming up here next, this. >> a little bit of anger. it's not a happy day for the university. >> martha: first it was paid escorts for the college basketball recruits, now apparently it's cold hard cash bribes and kickbacks. what has happened to patriotism and integrity in sports? we should point out while we show rick patino that he says he is not guilty of these things. jim gray will join me next. and the wife of american sniper hero chris kyle has a message for the millionaire football players mailing before the flag that he fought for and you should stay tuned for that. 16 years after the 9/11 attack we have a much better handle on who's applying the thousands of planes in the sky, right? wrong. a chilling report from the spotlight investigative team next. >> 16 years after 9/11 attacks in 13 years after a congressional mandate, pilots licenses still do not include
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and greed. from kneeling on the field during the anthem and now there's this new story about bribing college basketball players to come to your school. and adidas will sponsor you when you go pro! the university of louisville's rick pitino, one of the winningest coaches in college basketball history effectively fire today amid an fbi investigation that has exposed what looked like the dark underbelly of the ncaa. pitino along with almost a dozen others is a pledge of the part of a web of corruption using thousands of dollars in bribes to influence star athletes choice of schools, shoe sponsors, agents, even tailors. what this means for american sports fans. fox news sports analyst jim gray, good evening. your thoughts on this? >> how are you? >> martha: i'm good, thanks. >> it's the underbelly that a lot of us have known has gone on in the ncaa has dealt with this but they are not an investigative authority. when you have the fbi now
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involved in this as a whole different level, these people are looking at massive felony charges and it's beyond disturbing but the corruption is inevitable and it's going on for a long time. when you have all of these entities who are profiteering the institutions, the shoe company, the television networks, the coaches and everybody involved except for the people were plain, they can't touch the money. they will go after the national championship for the university of connecticut players set up there and said i can't get a pizza after practice and i'm hungry and so this is no wonder that this has happened. the fact that it's on this scale and is serious -- it's disturbing, upsetting and despicable. particularly for everybody who loves college basketball in college sports. >> martha: absolutely, i love college basketball. we look at the sport, why you teacher kitsch, why you want them to be involved in sports, teamwork and integrity and honesty and putting other people before yourself out there. if all of those good things. as you point out, the double
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standard where everybody is sort of taking something off the top from these talented young people and they get left with not a whole lot. that is sort of a whole other discussion. being accosted by these middle folks who sit down next to them and say we could take care of your kids, why don't you come talk to us, it's really bad. >> and this has gone on and this has gone on for a long time and it's been under the table and now it's being pushed to the forefront due to the fbi investigation and all of the schools that are caught in this and these coaches that are caught in this, there are some that do go about it in the right way and they are now going to get into this pit where everybody will now say it's prevalent and rampant. it's just like the steroid era in baseball, the guys who were doing it right will get totally overblown and just run over for those who have committed wrong and the wrongs aren't great and they need to clean it up and
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it's going to be a very difficult process to do it. >> martha: those who are running good programs should rise to the top. thank you very much, good to see was always. >> thanks, martha. good to be with you. >> martha: also developing this evening, as the president continues to double down on his feud with the nfl over national anthem protests, an arizona police officer brandon tatum has a simple message to those who are taking any. >> i'm sick of you athletes -- i was athlete! i'm sick of you trying to act like just because you played in the nfl, somehow you are an expert on life. if you have no idea what you're talking about! the people who died for that flag, it ain't again. that's real life! that's real sacrifice! >> martha: he raises the question to these players, many say that it's in support of the black lives matter movement but some new statistics show that they don't really have all the facts about this. "the washington post" found that deadly police shootings of african-americans last year were down from 2015 and of the 233
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that occurred in 2016, in over 70% of them the victims were armed with guns or knives. there's a lot more to these numbers than that, that's one little piece of this, i want to warn anybody when you think about this. a spokesperson and host of dana and michael starr hopkins joined me now. if i want to start with you, michael. what you think about the fact that when you look at these movements and you look at all of these folks taking any and there are players of all backgrounds who are involved in this but there are a lot of african-american players, do you think they really sort of know why they are taking any and do they understand that the statistics are maybe not with the appear to be and so much of this was founded in ferguson, hands up, don't shoot. that story would spark so much of this which turned out to be not at all and hands up don't shoot situation. >> i do, i think this is bigger than ferguson. i think this goes back to some historical inequalities and how
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the justice system itself is broken. i think these players before they are athletes they are human beings, americans and their experience is what they are calling on. many african-americans have had instances with the least that are positive and some have had some that are negative. i think with these athletes are doing is saying that we need to call attention to bad police, not all police. all bullies are bad, i think they are good and necessary and just like our troops were sir, we honor them. but in honoring them we also have to make sure that we point a late to the ones who aren't being honorable. >> martha: the fact that if michael brown had followed the directions of the police officer he would probably be alive today. >> i don't know. >> martha: i want to bring dana in, your thoughts? >> thank you so much for having me. i think i and so many other individuals are incredibly confused as to why so many people are taking any during the anthem. personally speaking i remember back when colin kaepernick began this. let's not forget that he told august of last year that he was doing it because the
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flag it represented oppression, and it does feel like there is this movement to repurpose the anthem in the flag as these avatars of oppression and of course we can't forget when he did take to the field, he also did so in stocks that depicted police as pigs with police hats on them. of course this was all politicized as you mentioned, martha, with the situation of ferguson and mike brown. st. louis is my hometown. that was based upon a lie, the hands up, don't shoot. three independent investigations, not to mention the witnesses, the testimony before the grand jury, from the individuals who actually witnessed it, they were there, lived in the community and they completely contradicted the media narrative and truth finally won out but not before the lie had gone twice on the world. that was predicated upon a lie. and confused because it seems as though if we are going to raise awareness and we are going to begin an honest conversation about conflict and concern between two separate entities in the united states we would do so and started based on truth.
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>> i would push back on that and say that michael brown was an isolated incident and that when you look at the land of castile and the shooting in south carolina, there are historical instances or we can go back and say -- >> in most of those cases -- >> castile was under the influence of a controlled substance and video show that he repeatedly kept reaching, sadly, after he instructed over and over. >> he was a gun order and rightfully had a gun. >> in less advocating carrying under a controlled substance, change that law because that is a very different thing. it's like you are advocating for carrying a firearm while under the influence of a controlled substance. >> martha: i think it goes back to what the back messages to send to our young people. when they see people taking any they need to have an understanding of why that is. it can be predicated on instances that turn out to not
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be true and it needs to -- the message needs to be put forward that is more positive and more inclusive. when you think about the fact that a lot of the players wanted to wear the dallas police office -- dallas police department stickers on their helmets to commemorate and remember the dallas police officers who lost their lives, the nfl wouldn't let them do that, michael. there's a double standard here. >> that was there was a rule specifically saying that the sticker have to be approved weeks before. >> martha: doesn't that seem a little silly to? >> there was a rule just like in the mbs and players have to stand during the national anthem, there's not one in the nfl. i think trying to compare apples and oranges misses the whole point, that we all of this country and we should be able to be critical of it while also pointing out its greatness. >> martha: last thoughts? >> there was a muslim player who was also in trouble with the nfl because he took a need to play mike say a prayer in the end zone and he got in trouble for that but apparently taking any in protest of a fire anthem is acceptable. they have the free-speech right to do it and we actually have
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the free-speech right to criticize it. it's interesting the differences. >> martha: thanks, you guys. very good to have you both here. still ahead tonight, in the wake of violent campus protest we talk to famed attorney alan dershowitz, who is set to address a columbia university minutes from now and he fears that something along these lines could potentially happen to him. and what if you found out there was a tiny town in texas that had a thousand planes registered there and no airports? how that lead to an explosive investigation on just who is flying the private planes overhead and what we did not fix after 9/11. ♪ >> american pilot licenses don't include a picture of the pilot despite an order from congress in the wake of the 9/11 terror attacks. that's a big problem. if authorities don't know who is flying american planes, it's possible they don't know what those planes are being used for.
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>> martha: the award-winning movie "spotlight" focused on the journalists team at "the boston globe" one covered the rash of child abuse a priest in boston. that team is now uncovering a new and frightening story about the privately registered planes to fly over our heads every single day and about how little we know about those pilots. a picture of a post-9/11 reality that is actually stunning. trace gallagher live in our newsroom with the story. hi, trace. >> 16 years after 9/11 "the boston globe" spotlighting found that five people with ties to terrorism or international crime were still carrying valid faa license is to fly repair airplanes. astounding when you consider that eight years ago the faa was actively warned about the very same problem. there were at least eight holders with ties to terror. including a student pilot
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convicted of possessing biological agents and toxins in this man, the convicted bomber of pan am flight 103. in 2009, 21 years after the plane exploded over scotland, he still had a valid dispatcher certificate. the globe investigation also found lax oversight allowed a convicted criminal from iran to steal the identity of a professional u.s. pilot. the iranian man wasn't caught until he crashed his plane in denmark. another man attained a valid u.s. pilot's license using identity of a dead man. part of the problem is the only pictures on licenses are of the wright brothers even though former florida congressman john mica took to the floor of congress in 2016 and pointed out that a day pass at disney was more secure than an faa license, watch. >> orville and wilbur. i blew it up here.
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it's a joke. >> the faa respond saying licenses are only meant to show training levels and that license holders must carry government i.d. the faa also points out that it is not in charge of policing the skies, that's up to tsa, dhs and the fbi. but as "the boston globe" found out there are also flaws when it comes to registering aircraft. at one company discovered an faa loophole that allowed her to help foreign nationals register their planes in the u.s. without publicly revealing their names. that resulted in a twice convicted drug smuggler rushing his u.s. register plane into a home in venezuela killing four people. watch. >> help me, i'm burning.
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finally consider the globe also found two of the planes used in the 9/11 attacks were still lifted as active until 2005 and that one in six aircraft in this country are registered through illegal means but are very hard even for law enforcement to determine exactly who owns the airplane. martha. >> martha: thank you. joining me now, to people who played a key role in exposing these deep cracks in aviation security. jamie is "the boston globe" spotlight fellow and scott allen is the spotlight editor. good to have both of you with us tonight. i want to dig right in here. jamie, you had sort of a moment when you started digging into the faa. what was that, what triggered you on the story? >> just with any story you tend to work off of a hunch and we were looking into these aircraft registrations with these companies and it wasn't until we saw a town of 2500 people with
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no airport that had more than 1,000 planes registered to them that we thought oh, my gosh, why are all these planes here? what is happening? from there which are started to unpeeled the onion and go through all the layers that lead us to where we are today. >> martha: jamie, you found the companies can register planes anywhere and they sort of are fronts or something, right? >> it is really easy to register a plane in the united states. i think as u.s. citizens we think we go through a lot of things to register our vehicles but all you have to do is just fill out some paperwork, sign your name, send $5, it's $5, mail it to the faa in oklahoma city and they're pretty much going to trust what you sa say. >> martha: scott, we just looked at that poor family in venezuela, a drug plane crashed into their home, killed several members of the family, a tragic story but there were -- it was registered in the united states and they still don't know who's plane it was.
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>> that's correct. it's really a tragic situation for the gonzales family. minding their own business on the ground and the plane lands on the house and kills several members of their family and for the next eight years they are trying to find out who really owned the plane so they can get some sort of justice. if they couldn't do it because the american registration system is so confusing. the father calls it the monster. it's something you can't penetrate and find out what's really going on and so they were left with nothing and they haven't even been able to repair the house. >> martha: what was supposed to change about all of this after 9/11? >> 9/11 really should have been a wake-up call. as we were reporting, 9/11 was constantly in the background, how is this happening in a post-9/11 world? there were mandates. in 2004 congress mandated that pilots licenses should have a photo and that seems like something really basic but here we are 13 years later and we still don't have photos on
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pilots licenses. >> martha: why not? >> that's a good question for the faa. there are a lot of excuses and adjust still hasn't happened. >> martha: scott, this team and you are the editor of it now has uncovered a lot of big stories. what is your sense of what the faa reaction is to this? is this going to lead to change? >> they say they are working with the faa and expecting changes like walking through fixed glue, they are not known to be a very fast reacting institution. i will tell you this, they know that we were right and they know that we were deeply right. there's nothing cheap about what we did, we laid out the case very clearly and everything we said was true and they need to stop and think about what they are doing. >> martha: jamie, what is the terrorism implication here? >> what we found through our course reporting, we found people with links to terrorism who were operating american
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aircraft. he found people with links to terrorism who have been certified by the federal aviation administration and many still remain active with their licenses. the implication is that this is a system that has a lot of gaps in the gaps can be infiltrated by bad actors. >> martha: jamie, thank you very much. jamie and scott, great work. good to see you both tonight. we will be watching the story as it develops. we hope it brings them change as her last stories have. good to see you both tonight. >> thank you for having us, martha. >> martha: seems like these are familiar for some conservative speakers but now a liberal lawyer thinks he may get a similar reaction when he speaks of an ivy league school tonight. alan dershowitz joins me before his big talk to explain. ♪ she also builds her own fighting robots. destroy. but when it comes to mortgages,
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>> martha: within the hour law professor alan dershowitz is going to take the stage at columbia university. he fears that he may be the latest target of seems like this, protesters shouting down mostly conservative speakers. recently a ben shapiro speech caused and xm aided $6,000 security. who can forget the violence triggered by mylo's experience
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at the same school or charles murray, who were shouted down and had his car toppled on his way out of middlebury. here now, alan dershowitz, a harvard law school professor and author of "trumped up" ," how it endangers democracy. why do you think, given your background, he voted for hillary clinton, if you have supported a lot of liberal causes over the years, why are they coming up after you? >> because they hate liberals as much as they do conservative. these are radicals who think they know the truth. they don't want to hear different points of view, in fact liberals the greatest enemies because we speak to some of the same constituencies. tonight i'm going to be speaking about free speech, i'm a liberal, i support free speech, they are against it. i will be talking with israel, they are against the two state solution. if they don't want to see israel exist. radicals versus everybody, versus liberals, conservatives, people in the center. >> martha: who do you think is
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organizing these particular protesters against you? >> i think there are many group groups. a policy of disrupting pro-israel speakers. they have been sanctioned by many universities. we don't know whether antifa will come. if certain other groups, radical groups that don't like my liberal views. remember, i'm not like milo, i'm not like the kind of guys who come on campus to make a point to disrupt and show how much free speech is suffering. they deserve complete protection of the first amendment. i'm a 50 year harvard professor who is coming to talk rationally in a moderate way about the two state solution in the middle east and the students don't want other students to hear my view. they are afraid i might actually persuade them. >> martha: what about the president of the university and how much protection are they giving you? we are not from a lot of universities, princeton is one,
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but says they are trying to really make an effort to have educational dialogue back and forth, the basis of the word education. >> i'm sure columbia will do that. i'm sure they will protect me and protect the students, it's a full house. students come to hear me speak. either way, i will encourage critical questions. i will allow the most critical questions to come first and i will stay as long as there is a critical question. i also want to object to saying just boo generally. >> martha: we don't want israel to exist, what are you going to say to them? >> let's have a debate, let's argue about it and let me tell you why i think the two state solution is best for israel, palestine, the united states of america, for the world. if you have a different point of view, here's the microphone, you make your point of view. whatever dialogue, a discussion. but understand this is a company to issue and let's address it like it is a convocation, not like it's an issue of simple black and white back and forth. >> martha: i want to put up a headline from "the daily beast."
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how much of this is coming at you because you have said some things that are favorable to donald trump in terms of whether or not you think there's a liable criminal prosecution against him. you've stuck up for him. how alan dershowitz one from hillary donor to trump attacked a on russia. >> not quite accurate, i'm not a supporter of donald trump, i voted for hillary clinton, i'm a supporter of the constitution and a lot and i don't want to see the law stretched. i would be making the same argument if hillary clinton had been elected and they were yelling lock her up. i'm going to make the same argument no matter who is in office. but some of the protesters may hold up my book, they may say he's a trump supporter. they don't understand the difference -- what, -- >> martha: you are a rare bird in this environment, let me tell you. >> people said he is supporting nazis. that's just not the way people do it when you are a
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>> martha: the last story of our night, this great picture of president george h.w. bush and former first lady barbara bush with some patriots and their furry friends, their service animals, very close companions. mrs. bush wrote the forward for this book. an excerpt from her forward for the book is our quote of the night. "for many of us coming home to our cuddling with our beloved pet is one of life's greatest joys. no matter how your day has gone, the unbridled excitement for your pet when you walk in the door can really make your problems seem a little less grim." imagine for a moment the same bond between our military veterans and their pets. for years we have all heard stories about that relationship not only changes but saves lives. their pets make dark days brighter and the helpless feel
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helpful, the lonely feel loved. great words from barbara bush tonight. i feel that way when i get home and see squire. that's our story tonight, we will see you back your tonight at seven. have a great evening, tucker carlson is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson "tucn tonight." one of the most striking features of the debate over immigration in america is the fact that it's not much of a debate. you will notice the failure, indeed the refusal of our elites to grapple with what exactly it means to allow millions of low skilled workers from around the world to move here. when it comes to details about that that quote the statue of liberty and they move on quickly. they don't really want to know much about the effects of their policies. maybe they really believe that every immigrant is a high school valedictorian or some world crest stem talent who is only prevented by founding apple or curing cancer by the biggest


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