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jacket? something isn't working, you might want to try hair color. >> sean: all right, let me have it it's fine kicks handle it, 877-225-8787, fair and balanced. >> laura: i'm laura ingraham, this is the ingraham angle. coming to you from los angeles. we have unbelievable news, breaking news a number of different fronts. we're going to navigate and analyze it all for you. stay tuned here. there are developments on that house memo that said the detail alleged fisa abuses by the obama-ef ra fbi. check it out, we have 140 members of the house who have gone to that secure room in the house of representatives, to read the memo. and that number reportedly only includes one democrat. only one democrat who is curious enough to see if our intel agencies have gotten really political. huh.
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interesting. my question is, what are they so afraid of? afraid to see what's inside the memo? no curiosity at all? also, a pathetic distraction in the house of representatives, as 66 democrats vote to impeach the president over alleged s-hole country comments. they want that, the big distractions, don't focus on how great the economy is. update on the out of control immigration controls in california, rogue mayors in oakland and san francisco say they would go to jail in order to protect their sanctuary city status. >> this is one of the issues that i wouldn't mind going to jail for the first time in my life. >> i would be willing to go to jail to defend oakland's sanctuary stat you and the policies that reflect the values of this community. >> laura: well, what they're really saying is they'll go to
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jail to protect the illegal immigrants. all of the people in oakland and san francisco, law-abiding citizens and legal immigrants, you're on your own. when in l.a. you'll never know who you might run into. last night, i was actually seated next to hollywood a-lirnter rob reiner. we have political differences, you might think. but i asked him to come on the ingraham angle and guess what, he said yes. and he's proving himself to be a lot braver than some establishment politicians. they have turned down my offers. lindsay graham, chuck schumer, jeff flake, cory booker, all too scared on to come on thing extra ham angle. oh, excuse me, they're really busy. not rob reiner. the pressing issue of the moment, two hours away from a government shutdown. this was all happening just so you get this, democrats are holding up a spending bill, holding it hostage, for their
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demands, for amnesty for dreamers. connecting two. they should not be connected. to get inside the story, let goes to senator james lang dlpt ford, a republican from oklahoma, who business to go on that floor and vote. senator langford, great to see you, on the radio this morning, on with me now, appreciate your time. tell us where things stand after that meeting that the president had with chuck schumer. we understand only general kelly was in the room with the president and schumer. no other staffer, of schumer, i loued in or he didn't bring them. >> i'm noment sure. i wasn't inviepted into that meeting either. what we understand in that meeting, chuck schumer brought a list of demands that he wanted to be able to see be addressed. the president told him, hey, this is a legislative branch issue, work it out with the speaker of the house and majority leader of the senate, y'all work it out, i won't intervene. he basically turned senator schumer back around, sent him
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back to capitol hill, said y'all work it out. >> laura: wait second hooechlt shows up with a list of de hands, this is after that disaster visit that senator graham and senator durbin had to the oval, where they go and present this great deal, if flake-durbin amnesty deal. they present this thing. increases chain migration and puts more pressure, senator langford, on the border, you don't get the money the president requested for the border. the two things the president cared about, they actually exacerbate. on the diverse yipt lottery issue, they -- diversity lottery they take and transfer half of them to the other protected status category. on pretty much every front they did not really move to the president's position. now they're actually asking for more demands? >> apparently so. and, again, you left out one
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simple thing, as well on tuesday, they laid out a process for how we were going to come to conclusion on this. on thursday of that week they came in and said we want to go around the process we agreed to on tuesday. again, the president was having none of it. he sent them right back to the hill. where it has to be negotiated and has to be resolved. at the end of the day all of this conversation about daca should be a conversation about border security. that's the thing that's missing. we don't have a daca problem, we don't have an illegal immigration problem if we have good border security. >> laura: exactly. we litigated this issue in the 2016 election cycle. donald trump won. lindsay graham dropped out in december of 2015 he was so popular, knew he couldn't even win his own state. marco rubio, jeb bush, didn't go anywhere. donald trump wins. yet we're still, we still have republicans like lindsay graham, god bless him, banding together with dick durbin and jeff flake
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who didn't vote for president trump to push this issue again. it's like, this is crazytown stuff. the president will not go along with this. and yet lindsay graham, i want to play this, is out there attacking your colleague tom cotton. and steven miller at the white house. let's listen. >> the steven miller approach to immigration has no viability. tuesday the president was in a good place. he was the president of all of us, he spoke compassionately about immigration, tough on security, bipartisanship. two days later a major change. i think the change comes about from people like mr. miller, tom cotton approach has no viability here. he's become sort speech king of the senate. >> laura: cotton responded with i think can i win my home state, something like that. i thought it was a really cheap shot by senator graham, again,
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an issue that he is way outside the mainstream of the core trump supporters out there who pushed him over the finish line to help him win. >> right. and i would say, i was in the meeting on tuesday and i don't know, i wasn't in the meeting on thursday but president trump was pretty clear on this. he was very clear on it last october. it's been interesting to hear the number of democrats in the last 24 thundershowers that say the president won't tell us what he wants on immigration. last october the president put out a lengthy document, what he's looking for on immigration. that was four months ago. they can't say he didn't give them anything, they just didn't like it. we got it and got it laid out and i expect the president to lay out another proposal and give legislative language in the next 72 hours, this is what we're looking for. he's been clear on the goodlatte bill. >> laura: we had labrador and
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goodlatte bill. then mitch mcconnell says we don't know what the president stands for. it confuses me. the democrats don't get off the hook on a shutdown, cnn poll just came of the, which do you think is more important for congress to do, avoid a government shutdown, 56% continue daca only 34. abc-"washington post" poll said who do you think is responsible for a possible shutdown. republicans 48%, democrats in congress 28%. republicans in one poll don't fare all that well on who's to blame for the shutdown. yet, boy, it seems like the american people don't want the government to shut down for illegal immigrants. >> it's remarkable. we should not have a shutdown over something that has a deadline on an immigration conversation of march 5. in the middle of january. that is not even rational to be able to connect two at this point by any means. other thing that's interesting to me, when republicans were in
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the minority they were blamed for the shutdown. when democrats are in the majority they blame the republicans. no way democrats are trying to do this, it is, tip o'neill shut down the government in the reagan administration three times on president reagan, reagan was blamed for the shutdown every time. we get the narrative, we understand what happens with this. no one wants a shutdown, destabilizes every federal employee, everyone trying to get a permit, they have to connect with the federal government. shusn't save money. we constantly get the blame. >> laura: and i have to tell you, senator langford, not even as fun as 2013, because we don't have any doctor sues readings scheduled as far as can i tell. unless you share with us. any poetry, any songs? >> it is bed time for a lot of children around the country but not a story from me, get it from your own dad. >> laura: senator langford, thanks for joining us. let's get the latest from the reporters on the ground. so many aspects of this story.
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some of the other networks i've been watching, checking in throughout the day. they're giving you a sliver of what's happening. understand the fum context. leland witter is on capitol hill, ed henry at the white house. let goes to ed to get the trump administration reaction. you heard senator langford, ed, that schumer comes with a list of demands. do you know anything about what was in that list of demands? >> yeah, all we were told by white house officials is that it was a list of demands on srt of the domestic spending front. you can imagine the president's frustration, because he's already agreed with what the house republicans passed last night to extend the children's health insurance program that democrats said has been a top priority for them for the next six years. so that carries you at least through the first trump term. president has signed off on that. chuck schumer came with more domestic spendtion.
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the president said go back back to congress on that. when you talk about the narrative, white house officials are telling me, that they thought it was instrucktive at this midday briefing on camera, mark short, the president's liaison to congress, mick mulvaney, they're running point for the president on all of this as you know. they're being pushed by various reporters on the idea that republicans will get the blame for this shutdown because they've won the white house, won the house -- >> laura: i don't think so. >> mulvaney sticking to the facts, said look, we don't run the senate. we have a majority with 51, but you need 60 votes to pass this. and almost anything. thatth ma might have been lost on some. bottom line, mark short, told reporters a couple of moments ago that they need about 13 or 14 senate democrats to pass this vote this hour, to keep the government open. he said they're not going to get it. >> laura: they slipped a few in, right? they slipped a few of the more
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red-faced democrats, yeah. donnely? >> right, donnely, mildcamp in north dakota, may be facing tough re-elections in states that donald trump didn't just carry but carried by double digits. the president a few moments ago tweeted out, it's not looking good, we're headed for a shutdown. >> laura: and he was supposed to have a big celebration at mar-a-lago, phenomenal first year, steve wynn is putting it on. >> he's still hoping to get there. they were thinking he might leave as early as today, wasn't going to -- >> laura: optics would have been terrible. >> it would have been awful. lindsay graham and others are talking about a plan b, that would extend government funding to about february 8 for a couple of -- >> laura: we to have go through it all over again.
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>> at least you don't have a shut down tonight. number two, what does it do, gets you parent the president's state of the union. not only does the president want to celebrate the first year, this weekend, but he has a staft union coming up where he wants to talk about infrastructure, immigration. they want to clear the budget things. >> laura: that's smart. >> this is week-to-week. february 8, last night it was february 16. bottom line, at some point they have on get back to passing budgets. >> laura: do what families have to do. you're getting this for this, entertainment this much money, this much money to spend on education and healthcare. family does that. somehow this federal government has been doing this for years and years and years without normal course budgeting and it is a complete outrage. it's been happening for far too long. >> if they pass something and they get to february 8, everyone will pat themselves on the back, we passed a budget until february 8. as you said, we ee going on come back and do it again. >> laura: hardly an accomplishment i thought you
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were going to tell me that plan b was that trump was going to bring schumer, durbin, lindsay graham and flake and all of them down to mar-a-lago to be part of the celebration. >> i think dick durbin has probably been disinvited. >> laura: i hope so. he puts the shif in trump's back when he got out of the oval office. thanks for the reporting, we'll check back later on in the hour. now let's go to leland vittert to tell us about any sign of any deal? >> everyone talks about by tart sonship, there is by part tan subpena almost to a tee, every senator who is here will tell you who things. number one, they don't want a shutdown. number two, if there is a shutdown it is the other side's fault. that is what senators are going around and telling every television camera and reporter they can find, as they head in
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to this 10:00p.m. vote. there's very little optimism they're going to get to the 60 votes, this procedural vote, then actually be able to pass what the house sent over. that four-week continuing resolution, and the six years of the child healthcare program. so from there, with those two things in mind, where does it go? as ed pointed out, there's now this idea of a february 8, get the government funded through the state of the union. it does a couple of things. one, you don't have the shutdown and the optics of that. two, it says for democrats that they get a little bit of something. somehow, if that all goes through, they're able to extract something from republicans rather than four weeks, only three weeks, they say they have won in some way. they go back with that, make all of this worth it, then all of a sudden we're anew. we only have about 1:45 to get it done. if the senate does not pass the bill that came over from the house and they pass this
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three-week continuing resolution to fund the government, you got to get to 60 votes in the senate to do that, then it has to go back over to the house f that doesn't happen by midnight, it's not like cinderella, the lights don't turn out, there's all sorts of tricks that congress can use in the executive branch can use to keep things going while they're continuing to try and solve this problem. if it does go back to the house, the house members were told to stick around, they ee subject to recall by the chair, they could be back in here some time tonight, some time tomorrow morning, and as ed pointed out, the president is still here, at the white house, to be able to sign the bill. >> laura: the house put out an extensive analysis of the durbin and graham-flake bill, the immigration bill. it's a stunner. they say that over the course of fiscal year 2017, 62,000 unaccompanied minors have
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crossed the border. and the thought is, in anticipation of what's happening now, a potential amnesty that they can kind of slide in under even if maybe technically they wouldn't be able to. extensive analysis put out by the white house, and we went through on it the ingram angle, and i mean basically blows through everything trump skpt for on chain migration and all of these other factors. didn't look like a very good faith effort on my analysis of their analysis. we'll see where it goes. thanks, leland, we'll check back with you, keep an eye on capitol hill. if the news breaks we'll bring it to you. now, man, we have got to get into the story that we were on last night, this massive push, now, by republicans, under way, to release that explosive house intelligence memo on the russia investigation. went into great detail about this last night. now, here's a sampling of what gop congressmen are saying about that sometime-secret document --
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still-secret document. >> what i read today in the classified briefing room is as bad as i thought it was. and every single american citizen should have the ability to see that information to know exactly what our fbi was up to. >> you think about, is this happening in america or is this the kgb. that's how alarming it is. >> i believe there are people who will go to jail. this critical intelligence information will vinld kament the claims that have been made by so many and it is absolutely essential that we share it with all americans. >> laura: now, i've been told by numerous sources that the memo has the summary of findings, that will seriously alter the media's russia narrative. a lot of what we thought, plilt sizing the intel community and pe oneizing it as well. damning information, also, on members of obama's justice department and the top leaders of the fbi who are still there. now, according to reports, about 140 house members have gone down
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to that secret room to read the memo. it's in a secure location. and outside of the intel committee, as far as we are reporting is telling us, only one, count 'em one democrat has bothered to even look at the memo. joining us now, republican congressman sean duffy and congressman chris stewart who have both reviewed the memo. great to see you. you guys have to work for a living, working friday nights, just like i am. you guys used to go home on the weekends, everyone in town. good to see you both. >> we're probably working tomorrow and sunday, you get to go home. >> laura: poor baby, sean. you cut enough wood in wisconsin this season, anyway, you don't have to cut any more. let's talk about what you saw in this memo, i know it's classified. however, 140 of your fellow members have seen it, only one democrat. does that surprise you that democrats have such a stunning lack of curiosity about its
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contents? >> lawyer, a i'm going to jump in. not only have i seen this memo but as a member of the intel committee you've been involved in creating this memo. let's back up a little bit. for the last more than a year, we heard collusion, collusion, collusion. then we didn't. and then we heard obstruction, obstruction, obstruction, then we didn't. the reason being there was no evidence for that. but this is what we do know, the second story now, we know that hillary clinton and the dnc hired fusion gps, hired a foreign agent who used foreign assets including more likely russians and created the dossier that we know is garbage. the question now is, did the fbi use that before the fisa court were they hon nest how it was presented, did the fisa judges, were they prudent in this material. that's the focus of the memo.
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>> if can i add on to that, this doesn't set the democratic narrative that donald trump colluded with russia. if it doesn't fit the narrative they don't want to see it. they're not looking to find the truth. they're looking for a pathway to destroy donald trump. listen, i don't think it's help until for republicans to froth at the mouth with what's in this document i was deeply disturbed. i think there is serious issues at the top of the doj and fbi. why they didn't want to give this information to us, it took us four months, threat of congressional action to get the documentation. once i have looked at it i know why they didn't want to give it to us. also, i have to say, also we heard some one may be prosecuted, i agree that claim. america wants to hear the truth. we don't want the democrat narrative, we want the truth. the movement to expose the memo is beganing steam. i think frankly the intelligence committee will have a vote. they will release it. donald trump will clap his hands and say let's expose what the
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obama administration was doing with the doj and the fbi. >> laura: barack obama, in the fall of 2016, i believe, basically, he like poo pooed the idea of any plit tization of the -- po lit iization of the intel community working against donald trump, he said i guarantee that didn't happen. similar thing said by susan rice and other members of the national security council that, would have had access or requested access to the unmasking of individuals who had been surveilled under the fisa warrant, that was filed and granted. they're saying, this is a republican pipe dream, that you guys, you know, just don't want to answer the real questions about what happened in this -- with any dealings with trump in russia. they just deny, deny, deny. >> that's silliness. this investigation has been going on for more than a year i
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was in moscow just before the election and i came home and said 100 times, they're going to mess with our election. it was clear that was our intention. this commit, this investigation, has asked every question, we've interviewed dozens and dozens of with its, thousands of hours. but the facts are just the facts. it's the bottom line, if you made these accusations and at the end of the day there's no evidence, you have to consider the alternative. maybe these people are innocent. by the way, they weren't accused of stealing bubble gum, they were accused of tree son. to be fair to them, you have to say maybe the accusationtion we made aren't true. then, now, what we look at, you have to be honest as well, these rin credibly troubling revelati revelations. it's not just fbi and doj. information regarding the politicizing of the cia that's these as troubling. >> laura: well, you know, both of you know this well, but there were a lot of warnings about
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what was going to happen if trump was elected, going back to august of 2016. this there was a big piece in national review, i tweeted it out for people to review, they were setting him up at the time, this is a former intel officer worked for 25 years in the intel community wrote this piece. it was basically a warning people who say intel is never plipt sized haven't been around, they -- politicized haven't been around, haven't seen the recent history. i want to play for you to both of you, an interview that catherine herridge of fox did. not getting enough attention, frankly, with natalia, the russian lawyer, at that infamous meeting at trump tower that got so much publicity, she asked a question what was the meeting like, what was the purpose. meeting. let's watch. [speaking russian] trait my meeting wasn't tied with hillary clinton. the democratic block insists i
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was an agent have the kremlin. >> i did not could lewd with rush yampblgts the president's son-in-law barely attended according to her account. he came after the start of the meeting and left before it ended. he didn't even look each other in the eye. >> laura: apparently she has not been called to testify, questions from the mueller team yet. congressman duffy, you don't know whether to believe her or not believe her, i was trying to understand the russian in that clip. pretty well could understand it. tell us what you thought. >> i don't speak russian, maybe do you, laura. i would say that's con rating the donald trump campaign. i had -- exonerating the donald trump campaign. she was talking about a different issue. and if democrats here, they say oh my goodness, further collusion between donald trump and the russians, trying to give donald trump an escape hatch saying there was no collusion.
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just the way they'll read every different piece of evidence. can i make one other point, we give incredible powers to the fbi and the doj. and we want them to keep us safe especially after 9/11. we're okay giving that power as long as they use it in certain guard rails. they respect people's fourth amendment rights. when they step outside the boundaries with which we set up for therm and use it for nefarious purposes that's when the american people get riled up. it's important that the memo come out. the only way to change the way the fbi and doj works is when the american people know what they're doing. then partisan ship isn't there but the american people have the truth and the facts and say we have to change this. >> laura: congressman duffy, we learned that the procedural vote in the senate failed. it failed to avoid the government shut down, where we are thus far, every indication that's the direction it was going in. but we have definitive word that, indeed that, procedural
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motion has failed meaning we'll at least have a temporary shutdown of the u.s. government. nonessential employees will not be paid at least for the team being. they usually are paid afterward. so we'll keep track of that. one thing i want to do for you congressman stoourt, have you listen to something that congressman adam schiff said earlier today. it's a full screen, excuse me, he said this about your -- all of your comments about this memo. he said profoundly misleading set of talking points attacking the fbi and its handling of the investigation. this is meant only to get republican house members a distorted vul of the fbi. this may help carry white house water but it is a keep disservice to the law enforcement professionals. adam schiff. he's saying that you guys are the ones making it more difficult for law enforcement and the fbi and intel community to actually opt. i guess that's for you, congressman stewart since congressman duffy isn't on the committee.
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>> it's just nonsense. i had this conversation with mr. schiff a few days ago. be clear about one thing when we talk about doj or fbi, we aren't talking about the body, they're dedicated public servants. we're talking about a few of the very senior officials within the fbi and doj. the fact you work for the fbi doesn't mean no one in that organization is above question. that one of them are beyond reproach. we have a responsibility to provide oversight. when they do something unethical and potentially illegal, violates the trust of the american people, for heaven sakes we have a responsibility to pursue that. you can't say, well you can't attack the fbi, you can't attack doj, that's silliness. when he refers to us protecting mr. trump, that's the thing that i react to most emotionally. it's just simply not true. it's just a diversion that we see things here, that trouble us. >> laura: congressman duffy before we let you go, i'll ask a simple question.
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rod rosenstein is the deputy attorney general, he was named deputy attorney general by jeff sessions, jeff sessions recuses himself from the russia investigation, rosenstein, is the man in the hot seat, playing hot potato, i'm not doing it, i'm going on do a special counsel. idiotic idea on his part, i'm sorry. my sources tell me that he is vulnerable in this report and given what we learned about an extension of a fisa warrant. can you tell us anything about that, congressman duffy? >> i can make a comment on that, but what i can say is rosenstein has been not cooperative. he's one who's helped stone wall congress, took us four months to get these documents. i think if you want to clear the fbi, if you want to clear the doj be transparent, show us the information you have. >> laura: release the memo. >> beyond that, lee re-lease the investigation. if we're going to fully investigate what they've done we
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need fair partners to work with us and i don't think rosenstein has been that fair partner. >> laura: if he's not giving you the information, why, why can't the people get this information out there. clear the air. if everything is fine, it's fine. >> you will get the memo, you'll see it, i think the intel committee will vote on it and you will have a chance to see it and so will america. >> laura: we're itching for it, we lease the report, the hash tag, release the memo still tending on twitter. >> now we have to have the schumer shutdown trend as well. >> laura: we're already doing that, come, on give me some credit, duffy. all right, guys, sorry you have to stay up late at night, get another cup ef suppress owe, keep yorss up. we're keeping an eye on capitol hill where the procedural vote failed to keep the government open. we'll bring you reaction from the house of congress, and the white house. here's what is so great about coming here to l.a. up next, the actor and renowned
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he said last night, are they going to shut the government down? i said i'm here in l.a., let's talk about hollywood. he wants to talk about hole particulars. you started this committee with david fromm, about investigating the russia connection. i read about it, you know, be honest, i laughed, what the heck, hollywood guy, the guy who writes for the atlantic are going to do 20 lawyers in washington with unlimited budget can't do? >> we have a really good advisory board. james clapper and michael hayden, mike morrell. >> laura: big fans of trump. >> john brennan has been involved. so we've got, you know, pretty knowledgeable people in the intelligence community. and the reason i started it, is because you know, i just felt that the public was not really understanding the dpravity of what has happened -- the graphity. warfare has changed.
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we have this cyber war, you can't feel. you know, if we had been attacked, let's say, the buildings get knocked down or a bomb blows up in new york city, everybody says oh, we have to do something. >> laura: why not russia, why not china? why not just russia? >> listen, there's a lot of cyber -- >> laura: why focus on russia? >> that was the most recent and very effective what they pulled off. it's nothing new, i mean -- >> laura: what you mean what they pull off? there's no proof they changed the outcome. election, hillary didn't lose because of russia. >> i'm not suggesting they did or not, i don't know about that. what i do know is that they were able to have thousands of trolls and bots and go through facebook and take out ads. every campaign republican, democrat, you put out your propaganda. you always do. if paid ads on television
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weren't good you wouldn't see people do it. >> laura: doesn't mean trump colluded with russia. it means russia is good at what they do. >> i didn't say they did. i'm not talking about that. whether or not he, you know, coordination between trump and the russians, that's for mueller and congressional investigation. to determine. that's not what this is about. this is about being attacked in a new way of warfare. whether or not we're going to be up to the task. i think we fell asleep after the soviets collapsed. >> laura: were you worried about the soviets back then? i was in college at dartmouth, i don't remember hollywood rallying to ronald reagan. i remember the opposite happening. >> but before that, i'm way older than you, and we had to hide under desks. >> laura: but you weren't supporting reagan, you couldn't stand reagan. >> i wasn't in support of reagan. >> laura: he took on the russians, you're like a modern
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day reagan, reagan took on the russian when is it was mutually assured destruction. now we're beyond mutually assured destruction. russia's economy is smaller than france. >> it is. here's what is smart about putin. we basically beat them during the cold war. >> laura: we wants mother russia back, i know, i know. >> they spent themselves into oblivion trying to -- >> laura: because of reagan. >> because of a lot of things, a lot of different presidents helped to do that. but putin figured out for a half a billion dollars, very inexpensive thing, i can weaponize cyber war. what people have to understand, the capacity that cyber war, not just invading the election, there's blowing up stuff. >> laura: look at putin during obama, twient get to the fun snuff a moment. >> this isn't the fun stuff?
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>> laura: for me, talking the b. the other stuff is fun, you talking about politics. but putin did pretty well in the obama years. went into crimea, obviously, the ukraine, obviously grew his popularity at home. the idea that trump would be a "nirvana" for putin i didn't get that. he did really well in the obama-clinton era, didn't dot reset, it failed. >> but obama did, know, whether or not you think they were effective, did have sanctions after they invaded crimea. there's been a lot of talk about removing those sanctions. we have sanctions passed by 98-2 in the senate virtually everybody -- >> laura: russia, russia, russia, i know. at some point this becomes comical, funnier than the stuff you produce. are you worried that -- >> you don't care about this stuff? >> laura: i do care but i think you're going down the wrong
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rabbit hole, it's a rabbit hole. let's talk about what politics does to art. >> okay. >> laura: politics and art have always had a connection. >> yeah. >> laura: always a connection. and conservatives in hollywood, the ones that will rear their heads, say that there's a black list in hollywood, if you express support for trump it's like harvey weinstein did, you don't work. >> i don't know there is a blacklist but i can tell you that the vast majority of artists, directors, writers, actors are liberal, no question about that. and there's a reason for that. because a liberal, have a very big view of things. you know, this is what i've said, i said this to bill clinton, in the oval office, i said you know the difference between republicans and democrats? republicans know they're right. democrats entertain the possibility that they might be wrong. and that's the big difference.
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that's why you see liberals drawn to the arts. because it's more of an open-minded kind of thing. and i'm open minded, look, i came on your show. >> laura: i love it, it's fantastic. are you bothered, looking back in the '70s, i grew up watching you as michael stivic, the liberal do-gooder on all in the family. did it bug you that archie bunker was more bee loved than your character? he was a liberal that played this blue collar guy. he had a loveable side to him. >> he did. we got a lot of criticism because people were -- >> laura: loved him. >> they said how dare you make a loveable big on the. we said he's a human being, he loves his wife, loves his daughter. and that makes him human. >> laura: you said trump is a racist -- >> well he is. >> laura: he absolutely is not. do i look like a person who
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would hang around with -- i don't hang around with him but i've known him for 15 years. i will tell you you have to believe me. >> i'll listen. >> laura: you might think -- >> i go by what he says. >> laura: disagree with politics, but he's not a racist. >> why does he spread this thing about obama, why did he spread this thing about obama not being a citizen? >> i disagree, a lot of people said that. >> that's a very racist thing. >> laura: he is not a racist, he wouldn't have been friends with oprah winfrey. >> and why does he say there's good on both sides when there's nazis marching? >> laura: sometimes he isn't the most precise in his linguistics. >> and s-hole countries? >> laura: like obama said s-storm, and lindsay graham, the hell hole of central america? >> i put central park 5, not renting to black people. there's a thing there. >> laura: so getting back to the
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characters. >> i think he's a racist. >> laura: you don't know him. >> i've met him one time. >> laura: and you thought he was nar assist. like no one in this town is a narcicisstic. you hang out with the people who read other people's lines for a living. >> you bet. >> laura: they look at themselves in the mirror all day. i'm on television too, but look out, come o. >> i work with the biggest nar sisists in the world. actors are the biggest nar assists in the world. they want attention, want to be loved, they don't even come close to this guy in the one time i spent with him. i was with him, with billy crystal. it was his -- >> laura: another person i adore. >> at his hotel for a fight. and he basically only talked about himself the whole time. >> laura: that's a shock. bill clinton was a smooth operator. you might be better -- he might be better at hiding it. clinton, obama, come on, reagan was not narcisistic, jfk.
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>> you get to that position you need that, you need to be loved. >> laura: so archie, people compare trump to archie bunker, fine, whatever. >> they're both from queens. >> laura: they're loveable. but you don't see anything redeeming in donald trump, not one thing? >> i don't see him being loveable to, let's say for instance, he's walking up the stairs to get into the air force one, and it's raining, and he has the umbrella -- >> laura: you watch him closely. >> i mean that's what you do. you observe people. and his kid, and melania getting rained on and he doesn't -- it's just a thing about looking of the for other people. caring about other people. >> laura: good economy? >> well that's not about caring. i'm taunging about a human being -- talking about a human caring being loving person.
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>> laura: government isn't love. >> i'm not talking about the government. i'm not saying the government should love, i'm talking about him as human being. >> laura: back to my question, you're judging his family. >> not his family, i'm judging his behavior. >> laura: okay, bill clinton got oral sex in the oval office when his wife was sleeping. >> he did? >> laura: sleeping in the residence. we had lbj who you did a movie about, you said really nice things about lbj, fascinating character. but i think had it not been for the vietnam war he would have gone down as one of the greatest presidents of all time, second to roosevelt, passed more legislation than anybody. >> true. >> laura: he had another side to him. >> yes, he did. >> laura: urinating into the sink, inviting people into his bathroom. >> i showed the bathroom scene. >> laura: exposing his private parts. nothing surprises the biographer of lyndon baines johnson. brag about his womanizing, said
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he was more of a womanizer than jfk. >> what's the point? >> laura: he had a lot of flaws personal flaws. >> i'm not judging donald trump by -- >> laura: you don't like his policies, that's fine. >> no, no, no. i don't like his policies, that is true. >> laura: the booming economy? >> i don't like the way he conducts his life. the way he treats other people. >> laura: you did a movie about lbj who had horrible personal flaws. >> i don't like man who goes like this with towels, with paper towels. i don't like that. i don't like the way he troets other people. >> laura: okay. so the paper towel throw? is this about houston, the hurricane deal? >> you're making really bad arguments here. >> laura: i don't think so. you're smart as hell, when i make that comment, i'm talking about the way, his behavior, the way in which he behaves toward other people. that's all i'm talking about. i'm not talking about anything
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else. >> laura: okay. just before we let you go, your dad is such an amazing man and talent. >> i'm going to say you're great because you try to find the differences and the tension, even when there shouldn't be. that's pretty admirable. >> laura: i don't think -- it's a conversation. again, rob reiner, is some one who should be lauded because he's some one who doesn't agree with probably a lot of what i think, that's fine, but actually comes in for a conversation. and i tell you, republicans and democrats on capitol hill, rob, a lot of them won't come on this show. i read legislation. >> who? live lindsay graham, john flake, john mccain, cory gardner, a lot of republicans afraid to answer questions about their job. and i find that to be disturbing. the fact that you are willing and you've gone on with tucker, o'reilly. that is really admirable. >> we have a conversation. >> laura: it's really good. more people should do it.
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we have lot in common believe it or not, i love your craft and what you've done in hollywood. politics is about that much of life. your dad smis one i really, reel huh admire. 95 years old. >> >> he's going to be 96 in two months. gets up every morning and he says if i'm not in the obits i eat breakfast. >> laura: read the obits to make sure you aren't in there. what live lesson do you get from him that you carry with you? >> the biggest thing is the way in which he conducted his career, the way in which he treated on they are people and the way in which he did his work. you know, wasn't like he sat me down and taught me, i just watched the way he behaved and how he handled his career. it was like a regular guy. that's what i got from him more than anything. >> laura: hanks thanks for being here. will you come back? >> absolutely. maybe the government will be running. maybe there won't be any show
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here because there will be no government. [laughing] >> laura: i'm turning the lights off right now. reiner turning the lights off. let's go to ed henry at the white house, reaction to this interview. no, to the failed procedural vote in the senate. ed? tell us what you're seeing there. >> laura hopefully ingraham angle isn't closing down despite what was said. the government may be shutting down, just over an hour from now. that vote in the senate, as we expected, has now failed. remember, how this game about, after the meeting between democratic senator chuck schumer and president trump in which they were trying to work out a deal. schumer came with more demands, more domestic spending pry ortses he wanted added on beyond daca, something the president was not liking and said go back to the hill and try and work it out. they brought up the bill for now that was passed by house republicans. they did their job. but the senate did not do its job tonight, they did not pass it. interesting, ball games it's
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framed on the "new york times" website right now as senate democrats block bill to keep the government open. so we're going hear about the blame game in the hours and days ahead. republicans have their share of responsibility running the white house, having control. house and senate. even the "new york times" tonight, framing this as it's the senate democrats who voted this down in the senate. so the bottom line is, what happens next. i've been in contact with sarah sanders, she said a statement is coming out imminently from she or the. . the way forward is going to term stop gap spending bill to try and get it back on track. at this hour the government is online, it's heading towards shutting down just over an hour from now. >> laura: ed henry, keep us updated. now we have to go on to the other story. we brought this to you a few days ago, two days after we left las vegas, where we pressed for
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answers on that worst mass shooting in u.s. history. we learned a little more today, interesting. after refusing to answer our questions on wednesday, clarke county sheriff joe lombardo held a press conference earlier today and he said they still have no motive for the massacre and added this about reports of a potential accomplice to stephen paddock. >> i know and believe there was only one suspect who killed 58 people and injured hundreds more. there was only one person responsible and that was stephen paddock. he had lost a significant amount of his monetary wealth, close approximatity to 1 october and that may have been a driving factor. we do not anticipate charges being brought forward against mary lou danley. as to any other people, the fbi has an ongoing case against an individual of federal interest.
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>> laura: individual with federal interest. very, very interesting. looks like a grand jury may have already been convened to pursue this some one else whose fame we don't know connected to the horrific crime. but it's not mary lou danley. >> as to any other people the fbi has an ongoing case against an individual of federal interest. i will not be able to elaborate on that statement. >> laura: another lovely tidbit of information, this freak paddock had multiple copies of child pornography on his computer. officials announced this week that paddock's body was cremated and his ashes sent to his brother in florida. wow. joining us now to piece this all together, former lapd detective mark fuhrman in sand point, idaho, following the developments n las vegas the you
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ator of "the power reef lentless," wayne allen root is here. let's start with you, wayne, you've been on this from the beginning, las vegas is your hometown. you've raised questions about a possible terrorist connection to this case that the feds kind of moved quickly to, you know, discount early on. what did that very goode odd lombardo press conference tell you? he looked very uncomfortable. >> every press conference of lombardo has been odd, he always looks uncomfortable with the fbi stashing down behind him. we aren't getting the answers we deserve. i don't know there is a terror connection. nobody knows that. we have not gotten the right answers. the people of vegas that call my talk show, no one believes what we've heard from the fbi, no one believes what we have heard from the police. it's awful strange that our president, who i love, you know i'm one of the biggest fighters
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on behalf of donald trump, but he loves to wade into controversy and crisis and chaos. and donald trump has said nothing about this. which leads me to believe the government knows much more about this than they're willing to let on. i think there's so much more that we will learn in the future hah we don't know right now. we're not getting the right answers from the people in authority. >> laura: mark fuhrman, we know in the days after the shooting, certain isis websites had claimed that steph general paddock had converted to islam six months earlier. now we have no evidence that he had in that photo, the only photo of him, he has a shot glass, if he converted to islam probably wouldn't be drinking but maybe he would be. could this be, could there be something here or is it irresponsible, even to raise that possibility, given what we know now? >> well, look at this. isis will take a claim of any
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mass murder in hopes that nobody else will claim it, then they get credit for it, then they are of course terrorists and that creates terror. when you look at this, you have to look at the evidence. that's all we can deal with, is the evidence. you can make they aries, you can dream things up -- you can make theorys, hope things to be. but until you have evidence you can't make any kind of conclusion that that's what occurred. the evidence here is we had a sole gunman that actually supplied, put in action, set up and shot these people from the mandalay on the 32nd floor. that is all that they can conclude at this time. >> laura: but, mark. >> if there's a conspirator, some day -- >> laura: mark, i just keep going back to fundamental questions. my fundamental questions are photographic evidence. videotape.
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i know when you check in to every hotel, and wayne can you chime in on this, you are videoed every step of the way in las vegas. there are cameras everywhere. everywhere. why have we not seen any of that material? i agree with you, evidence rules. but in the absence of transparency what are people to think? this is, 58 americans are dead. and we're supposed to believe a guy who's 60-something years old was running between two, you know, pedestals to shoot, people were -- people on the ground were reporting there were two different, they thought there were two different shooters of the multiple with its said that. the guy is sprunting running between gun positions? i'm not -- you're an expert, mark. when the hotel doesn't release the check-in photos, video, nothing. we got -- the guy has no -- the hard drive it's raced, all of that is odd to me. this is a regular person, that's
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odd. mark, then wayne. >> well, lom bar go, he -- lombardo stated, i think, 25,000 feet or 25,000 video segments that they actually reviewed. you can see the volume of work they have had to go through in the last three months. but in all that video, we have once again, you do not have a homicide investigation and a prosecution. but you have civil litigation, you have discovery there. the private property, the mgm, now it's the evidence and the police are probably going to be sued along with mandalay bay in a security issue, and a failure to do this and failure to do that, that's what attorneys do. so they're not going to share this and pollute the jury pool until those issues are settled. >> laura, can i jump in? >> laura: yes. >> it's not 1963.
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maybe americans believed the jfk story in 1963 but nobody in las vegas or anywhere in the country, my show is national, none of the callers believe this story. i could tell you, makes no sense that the police in las vegas did not put this in the hands of the homicide division with 35 seasoned homicide cops who studied murders their whole life. they put it in lands of five police officers who study accidental shootings by the police. i'd love anyone, including mark, to explain that. explain how a guy at 60 wakes up and becomes rambo, you can't explain to me how within days of the shooting suddenly jared kushner was sent to saudi arabia in a secret visit, that's a fact, politico outed this visit. >> laura: but we don't know that's any connection. >> the diplomatic pouch, king of saudi arabia, within days, 300 people arrested -- >> laura: we'll have you back,
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wayne, we're going to black. mark we'll have you back as well. that's all the time we have. fox coverage continues after the failure of the procedural vote in the senate. to keep the government open. shannon bream next. >> a fox news alert, shannon bream in washington, this is fox news at night. clock in the corner of the screen shows we are just minutes from the points at which government funding runs out. democrats say they've been clear. they want to give legal stat to us an estimated 800,000 so-called dreamers saving them from deportation. republicans have hinted they see the signs of a deal maybe taking shape, we're certainly not there yet. team coverage. ed henry standing by at the white house. trump not heading down to mar-a-lago until the funding problem is resolved. to chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel to find out where things stand. >> no question about it, minute to minute.


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