steve: good evening and welcome to the next revolution. i'm steve hilton. we have something really special for you. we talk about some of the big popular issues like immigration, trade, and the economy. the way the rich have gotten richer. also an economy with corporations getting bigger and bigger and market competition disappearing from different areas. we talk about corruption and the way the elite severed their

interest. there is more to populism than that especially positive populism. if the message of the populous revolution is about taking power out of the elite and putting it in the hands of the people then we need to appreciate and support the foundation of grass roots power. yes, of course that means individual liberty enshined in the constitution. we are members of society. what are the building blocks of a strong society in america? faith, family, and community. that's the focus of our show tonight. some might take these things for granted but we must never do that. our social fabric has been frayed in recent years. we have seen a rise in family break downs. so many children being raised in broken homes. more often than not with an

absent father. community is fractured all around us. faith is as strong as every in some parts of the counterorders under attack elsewhere. in a way i never thought i would see in america. how do we repair our society. faith, family, and community. that's part of positive populism too. it's part of the next revolution we need and the focus of this special show on this special day. i would love to know what you think? follow us online. with me now is cohost and author of the new book. >> thank you for having me.

i wrote two children's book as a daughter and mother. there was a story in my heart called the light within me. there is a light that i have found that lives inside me and i found it through jesus christ and my relationship with him has developed over the years. i grew up in a christ change family when we spent the night out with friends our parents took us to our own church. it's about all of those things you mentioned, faith, family, and community. i never heard of having a relationship with christ. when i was in college and i went to a fraternity party and i looked around the room and was sick of what my life become.

i had a lot of fun in college and wrote about that in the book and talked about how god changed my life. i was looking around and said there has to be more. i'm sick of living this way. i feel like i'm wasting my tame. i have great strong christian friends. several of my friends that i was in college with. i had 1 foot in bible study and the fraternity party. i was having a lot of fun. i'm not saying when you become a christian you can't have funny more but i have to learn to rely on god and not myself. there was avoid in my heart and i couldn't figure out what it was. god through a ladder down to me and gave me a chance to get out. i couldn't get out. this was the best decision i ever made and i write about it. my life since then hasn't been

perfect. i hearing aid a failed marriage and miscarriage. i want people to know god and know that he can change your life. big dreams can come true. i just relied on god to get me where i was going. i grew up in south carolina. i wanted to be in new york city my whole life. my nickname was hollywood. i knew i wanted to be in a big city on the east or west coast. those two cities made sense. i knew i wanted to be on television. how did i make it from south carolina to the big screen and waking up. my answer is through god and trusting him. it wasn't so simple. it was a lot of hard work. even, you know, i say to get to the mountains you have to go through the valley. it's about a scripture.

it says let your light shine before others that they may see your good deeds and glorify your father in heavy vin. this iheaven.this was not about. writing the children's book was about what i learned from my parents. this is not about ainsley earhardt. it's easter and i'm glad you are doing an entire hour on this. steve: as you know in the u.k. there is a public attitude to faith that's different. you would never find someone in your prosignificance, literally never on a show like this talking like that. you would never see it. the thing that i scenes is that kind of openness and pride in faith that i talk to be a hallmark of america is some

places that's slipping away. you mentioned the big cities. how has it been bringing that faith with you to new york and the media industry which is different from the place where you grew up and more people were accepting of faith. >> that's a great question. it has been at times. god created me to be in new york city. i have a love affair in the city. a lot of people come from the south and say i can visit but i could never live here. i know i'm called to be here. i feel sin coming into my life or me being tugged in certain direction. i have to stay grounded and get back to the bible. i have a great bible study with some of the girls at fox. fox allows me to talk about this on-air. i don't want to push this on anyone. i don't want to tell people you have to worship a certain way.

i'm here to tell you my personal experience. i grew up in a family. we went to formal churches. i love the formal churches but i love going to praise and worship churches. they are all wonderful and you have to find where you will be fed and what's best for you. we grew up in a private family. we talked about it at the kitchen table but it was generic. we would never talk about it at a dinner table. we didn't talk about money. those are two things we never talked about. times have changed and we are losing some of our faith. you hear celebrities bashing god and bashing christians so, you can sit back and say god is overcome and take heart but jesus is not a door matt. mat. with love you are wrong. you can say that. i remember my mom correcting me

about something i was doing. she said i as your mother have to tell you you are wrong. one someone is doing something wrong. it's destroying the fabric of america. >> i don't want to get too political in the hour. there is an element of that in this because actually those strong foundations make america strong. that's why we need to talk about them. >> thank you for allowing me to come on and talk about it. steve: tell us the title of the book. >> it's call called" the light within me" thank you. god bless you. steve: let's bring you are next guest mike huckabee. i can't think of a better way for a beautiful relationship to

have you here talking about faith, family, and the community. i want to hand it over and see what your take is. where do we stand on the vital building blocks in america. >> your conversation with ainsley set it up. there was a time when a christian world view took over our country. what it meant was there was a basic understanding that some things were always right and some things were always wrong. morality wasn't relative. it was based on biblical truth of our culture. i'm a musician so i understand before you play a song you have

to tune the instrument. you tune it to a standard. if you don't it won't be music it will be chaotic noise. we have gone from a time when we tuned our lives to the unchanging truth of the bible and now every person just tunes to their own emotions. we are living in an emotion based society. i listen to a lot of people who say i think, i believe, and i feel. that's not a tuning fork. so for faith, family, and community there has to be a standard we come to that judges us rather than us judging the standards. >> do you think there has been specific things that government and it's broader sense has done that has gotten in the way of that or is it just a trend in society to pin down where it came from? >> some of both.

government has accelerated. in the early 19 60s when the supreme court or like i call them the extreme court decided there shouldn't be prayer or bible readings in school. it had always been there. no one was forced to believe anything. we set the tone that we are based on this christian understanding of life. when we backed away from that you also saw a dramatic up tick of the level of activity and lifestyles that destroyed people. free drugs, free sex. sex was no longer a beautiful relationship in comment and honoring someone. it as you say selfish. if it makes me feel good we objectify others and use them for our own feelings. we have seen the results of that. steve: yeah.

>> there are many ways the government has contributed not actively but passively by not saying nothing is moral or immoral. legislation is legislating morality. we legislate the morality of the speed limit. it doesn't mean we behave accordingly but that's what legislation does. when we fail to legislate things as to right or wrong there is no don't we will spin out of control. >> i think that's so well put. i worry about it. the truth is i can't relate to it as personally as you can and ainsley. it's never been a big part of my life but i respect it. moving here to america after living in the u.k. this feels like a strong part of america

that's endanger of being undermined. should we put it on the political agenda or talking about it more. how do we we verse this tide? >> what i would love to see is us get back to our roots. your show is about getting back to the essence of the true america where we honor the first amendment where the government wouldn't prefer or prohibit any exercise. we shouldn't promote a specific religion but we shouldn't refer one over the other. when they prohibit certain practices and prefer secularism over faith, which it has, we see the results. that's what i do think has happened. we paid the consequences dramatically. >> yeah, i think that is right. that's something we should keep

focusing on. we will have big problems ahead. thank you so much governor for joining us and see you soon. >> thank you, steve. steve: coming up later much more on this easter sunday. stephane will join me to discuss her life as a wife as a congressman and mom of eight children. we'll continue our discussion about religion in america. don't go away. liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. claritin and relief from of non-drowsy symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity and live claritin clear.

welcome back, everyone. the rise of president trump has shaken everyone to the core. this has also given voice to the average american that were long forgotten by the system. what has donald trump presidency meant to faith and religion in the country. i have pastor robert jeffersers darrell scott. thank you for joining us. robert, let's start with you. let's start with this thing people say a lot. how can evangelicals support donald trump. what's that all about. you have such a great take on

this. let's see what you think of it? >> well, you know the president just posted on instagram a comment i made on fox and that was donald trump has become the most faith friendly president in history. more than ronald reagan or george w. bush. he's been the most pro-life, proreligion jury president of all. this is built on the fact of his policy, religious faith friendly policies. not that fact that he had a perfect path. none of us have had a perfect path. christ came to forgive us of our past. we love him because of his policies. the fact is everybody including president trump realized that christianity has been marginalized. alexis said america is great because she's good and if she

every seizes to be good she will seize to be great. for the first 150 years this nation was built on christianity. about 70 years ago seculars started this crusade to separate us from the christian heritage saying we could be good without god. that's been a failure. socialism works until you runout of peoples money. secularism only works when you runout of peoples face. we are running out of the faith of our forefathers. we are running on empty. we should re-claim that faith. >> i really appreciate that take. to you pastor scott, do you agree that that is what's going on and is there a prospect of reversing it? >> yes, there is a rise of secularism in america.

they are separating god from mainstream america. this president didn't mind reintroducing god to america. someone took me to task for saying that before. i asked what are those principals they are the ten commandments. you shouldn't steal, lie, treat your fellow men wrong. christian principals are treat others as you treat yourself. this is what you need and put into practice to better our community and better our family structure and make a better america. >> i think that's why we called the show faith, family, and community. they are so interconnected and vital for the foundation of our society. pastor jeffers, what about the specific policy role here. let's look at something like

family break down. what do you think needs to happen? that's something that effects so many different parts of life and other policy issues the government tries to deal with that's fair or crime or you name it. what's the prospect of doing something to reverse that trend? >> obviously it needs to be done. i think that's a role for families to pass on faith to their children and grandchildren. it's the role of the church as well. uphold god's blueprint for family, marriage, and children and pass on the faith to children. of course the family ought to do that but don't always do that. that's why i believe, steve, as government they need to return instilling faith as well in our children. we had a march for eternal life. we lead 3,000 church members through the street of downtown

dallas. it came after the march for our lives. i said that we need to start teaching the ten commandments again in our schools. teach our children thousand shall not kill. the media is going crazy that i suggested such a thing. we allowed the courts to outlaw them. we need to return in government as well as family. steve: pastor scott, the last point i wanted to put to you is when some people hear this kind of conversation we are having a lot of people will agree with it very strongly, i know that. others will say that sounds sous discriminatory, what about other

religions. what do you make of that talk you do here when that subject is raised? >> jesus said i'm the way, i'm the truth, i'm the light. christianity is right or wrong. i believe it's right. i believe the bible is true and christianty hachristianty has bd that christianty is right. we have faith in a higher power. we have faith in a higher moral power and judicial power and ethical power. even the word community means common unity. that's coming together with the knowledge of the son of god. that will influence the father and mother which is the bedrock

of the community. family with well-defined roles will determine the type of person that ultimately mature to. jesus christ a lord. we believe that, proclaim that, and believe the evidence validates that as well. we celebrate that on this easter sunday. the resurrection of jesus christ. steve: very strong words. i really appreciate both of you being with us on this special day. thank you so much. >> god bless you. steve: coming up, it's one thing to talk about faith and family but are there policy solutions for the break down that's undermining our society. don't go away. for my constipation,

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steve: all right, we talked ability the break down of social institution like faith and family are hurting our society. what will we do about it? are there anything we can do? with me now is national marriage president ron. brad, let's talk with you. you have a pretty strong take on family break down. tell us what it is? >> well, actually, we are seeing good news for college educated americans. they are getting married. those without the college degree are floundering. we are seeing a rising level of instability. steve: where are the consequences and why should we care about this from a republicaa republicpolicy point? >> children race raised in singe

family homes will end up in prison and will end up pregnant as teens. what's happening in our family effects how are kids will do. steve: i think you shared the analysis in terms of the importance of the issue in education. some of the things i have read show you are quiet skeptical about what you can do on the question of marriage. is that your view? >> well, any conservative can acknowledge there are off-limits to what government can accomplish and off-limits to what we want the government to do. i think there are places at the margin the government are doing things that are harmful and could be doing better. for example we have various government programs that pennalliz penalize marriage.

if you are married to someone that's working your benefits will be cut. that undermineds marriage in a damaging way. we should revisit policies like that. people in our political and public life needs to acknowledge the facts bradford was discussing. it's linked to a wide range of positive outcomes for which i would reason. this is linked to their physical and emotional health. we shy away from discussing marriage when we talk about these various social problems in which the collapse of marriage is implicated. steve: i'm glad you said that. this is one thing when i worked on this in the u.k. i really tried to prioritize. it's tough because you get accused of being judgmental about peoples lifestyle choices. when it effects so many areas of

policy it's ridiculous. i want to come back to you on one point. the first point you made about the marriage penalty within welfare and so on. that's something people have talked about for a while. there have there been efforts to do anything about that on the federal or state level? where does that debate stand right now? >> the marriage penalty in the tax code in for middle-class has been solved. the government benefits for people who are below that level. that still persists. it has gotten worse. you could say the affordable care act, obamacare, made that worse. do you want to cut the benefit levels for single people or come up with the money to raise them for married people. something you mentioned has been discussed there hasn't been much action. we need to shine a light on the

problem and say we don't know how to region rate a marriage culture in the country. steve: let's take that to bradford, that's a great way of putting it the marriage culture. can we revitalize that? >> i believe americans have become more marriage minded. president trump obama and speaker ryan are living this new ethic of marital stability that we see among younger americans. we need to extend that mentality to the culture at large. from the kinds of tv shows we put-out and music we listen to. we need to advance that message and this is the best way to have them flourish. have their stable parent in the home helping them and navigating this 21st century economy.

steve: we here that phrase we should do it or need to do this, that, and the other. who is the we? how are we collectively going to do it? >> well, we are in danger of becoming a society where marriage is a lex which good. it's an upper middle-class lifestyle. there is nobody that shouldn't be lending a hand here. every voice can be helpful in making this case. like you illuded to we shouldn't give up on those raised in different kinds of arrangements and come democrat them fo conde. we should tell them the truth that their children will flourish if they live in a

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steve: welcome back, everyone. our next guest has a unique prospective on the importantance of faith and family in america. she's the mother of eight children and the wife of a senator. fox news contributor and author of stay home stay happy. rachel. rachel, wow, i love watching you

on fox. when we think, wow, behind the scenes you have this wonderful family that these days is really unusual. you're husband is in congress. how do you hangle it all? >> it's not easy or perfect. it's a lot of fun. we find away to do it. the secret is having an awesome partner. my husband and i are a great team. when you have a lot of kids they learn to be cooperative. these are kids that, you know, they don't feel entitled because they can't. they learn to help and we expect from them to help. i think they are turning out to be really good kids because of that. steve: great. it reminds me, i don't know if you saw that movie about mitt romney, he of course had five

boys. >> yes. steve: i remember thinking five boys. >> i have five girls and free boys. steve: i watched it with my wife and we have two boys that are a handful. how do they do it. i don't want to get too political about it. your family is thrust into it. how do you see the intersection with family and politics. >> well, in our family, it just is what it is. so many of our kids grew up as we were running for congress or their dad was all leaddy a congressman. politics and family is a part of our life. i love this topic you are bringing up here. what are the implications of marriage and family. there are a lot. you talk about a marriage culture with your last gust.

that'guest.you asked who does t? who is the we? the we is me. it comes down to personal responsibility. if you try to look at the marriage culture or lack of it in the country or the way it's secularized. it's overwhelming. so for me we just go what can we do? how do we raise our family? how do we make sure our kids are raised with character and with the tools they need to be successful. i also love you are talking about marriage because when you come from a big family like mine you realize how important the unit between me and my husband are. the security and well-being of the children stems from that. it's important my husband and i

make time for each other and time to have a good marriage that's based on love and respect and has time to flourish and the kids feed off of that. time away from our kids is not time they lose. it helps the entire family. >> i agree with that. i think you put that beautifully. one thing in politics, i of severed that in the u.k. people feel nervous talking about this issue because they think they will be held up like a hypocrite. what ainsley is talking about no one is perfect and that shouldn't stop you from focusing on something fundamental. we spend so much time talking about the consequences of failing to get this core thing right. if we get families right every other problem, that's a bit of

an exaggeration but maybe not. >> i had a priest tell me before there is no greater force against evil in the world than the love of a man and woman. you think about all of the evil forces and how protective a stable family can be in protecting our kids against that. we have so many young women that see me. i work and they see my husband's career and they see the big family and ask how do i do it and how do i see consequence my life and my professional life. i always advise women, it's not feminist advise, i tell women all of the time if you can get marriage right everything else will fall into place. i left las angeles where i lived. i was living there and thought i was pursuing a career i loved but i fell in love with a guy

from wisconsin. i went there and fell in love and focused on marriage. that sequencing isn't always promoted in our society. in my own personal life that worked for me. steve: listen, thank you for sharing. thank you so much rachel. >> thank you. steve: coming up, we have the information on an amazing project from california. they are trying to create amazing everyday heroes, that's next. woman: where are we taking him? i have no clue. we're just tv doctors. if this was a real emergency, i'd be freaking out. we are the tv doctors of america. together with cigna reminding you to go, know, and take control of your health.

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steve: welcome back. when we think of the world heroes we think of our favorite sports stars, our favorite character in books and movies but there could be a hero in our community that lends a helping hand. we will introduce you to the idea of the everyday hero. reporter: when tragedy strikes during horrible events like 9/11 or mass school shootings heroes emerge. people risk their lives to save those they don't know.

it was police officers, firefighters, and other first responders. in parkland, florida we saw teachers and coaches put themselves between the bullets and students. >> student students it. studen. it is natural to think about what we would do. >> it's aver everyday hero. it's a hero in training. reporter: this is a professor at stanford university. he's phone for the study of the psychological effects of prisoners and guards and how good people can become evil. now days he's focused on the opposite. whether ordinary people can be inspired and trained to become everyday heroes. >> i'm here today to say the answer is yes.

i'm doing this by creating the heroic project. reporter: he dawned his own personal super man outfit. he has taken his progame to schools around the world. >> we teach you to notice in every situation what can you do can improve the quality of life for everyone else. reporter: charlotte took the course and said the important thing is recognizing the situation and acting. >> it could be the difference between someone being isolated or life or death. reporter: she was stopped at an intersection when she saw a man stumbling across the street and car coming for him. >> i could only honk the horn. the car missed the man by this much. reporter: it was the workshop

that made her heckize that she d the power to do something. reporter: the course was at pasadena college. >> you have to feel the weight of the program. you have to realize i am the one to act. if you don't you will do nothing. reporter: one of her star students said the course changed her life. >> we put these, like, grand illusion when you think about a hero. you say i'm not a hero. you can be one in small awesome ways. you can be someones hero in a minute. >> that's all you have. you have a moment to be a hero. >> start with small steps. reporter: the doctor said heroism starts in the mind.

think you could be the one to stand-up and take action. >> this is an ideal with can inspire to be. reporter: next month he will hold a course featuring a holocaust survivor. he would like to inspire a new generation of everyday heroes that will stand-up when someone needs help. steve: more from our special after the break. heartburn! no one burns on my watch! try alka seltzer... ultra strength heartburn relief chews. with more acid-fighting power than tums chewy bites. mmmmm...amazing. i have heartburn. heartburn relief from alka-seltzer. enjoy the relief. :

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. steve: welcome back, everyone. and that wraps up our faith, family and community special. i'd love to know what you think, should we be talking about these issues more? learn more about "the next revolution." tell us what you think by following us on facebook, twitter and instagram. next week, we'll be back in los angeles with tomi lahren and

actor antonio sabato jr. please join us next sunday when "the next revolution" will be televised. . mark: hello, america, i'm mark levin. this is "life, liberty & levin," and our special guest, former attorney general ed meese. how are you, sir? >> fine, thanks, mark. mark: there's a lot going on in the country these days, but before we get into that, you were attorney general of the united states, 75th attorney general of the united states. we're going to get into that in a little bit. before that you had quite a substantial career, too. i'm curious to