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do something about this. new york state law and in fact to make it mandatory reporting in private school for sexual abuse. >> dana: jesse, i will give you double one more thing time tomorrow. "special report" is up next. hey, bret. >> bret: dana reporting in one more thing. thanks very much. this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier. president trump is meeting with his japanese counterpart talking with shinzo abe about north korea and trade and making news today. but, first, one passenger of a southwest flight is dead tonight. almost sucked out of a window after an apparent engine explosion. the flight from new york to dallas made an emergency landing in philadelphia today after the mid-air incident. now, we have new audio from the control tower talking with one of the pilots of that southwest flight. >> do you have the medical meet us there on the runway as well. we have got injured passengers. they said there is a hole and someone went out.
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>> bret: someone went out. getting details. at this hour we are waiting for southwest airlines ceo to make a statement. you are looking at that live coming from dallas. we'll bring you that as soon as it begins. but, first, correspondent julie banderas has the latest on this incident. good evening, julie. >> what a horrifying story, bret. this all started after the crew report reported damage to the fuselage and window and that passenger you just heard with air traffic control. now, the f.a.a. says this emergency landing on flight 1380 happened at 11:20 this morning. passengers were seen exiting the plane using those air stairs. before this a harrowing rescue in mid-air. witnesses say when a piece of shrapnel from the engine blew out, blew out a window, a female passenger was partially sucked out of that window hole before her fellow fliers scrambled to her rescue. listen to one passenger describe his horror story. >> totally surreal.
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i have my wife is in her third trimester, our first child. so i made spent a lot of my tie trying to articulate what i wanted my final words to be to my unborn child. to my wife, my parents. >> some other passengers have been sharing their harrowing stories on social media, such as marty martinez, who even briefly went live on facebook while wearing an oxygen mask in his post he wrote engine exploded in the air and blew open window three seats away from me. he says the explosion injured a female sitting in the seat next to the window. the deceased passenger has been identified as jennifer recorden from albuquerque new mexico. more disturbing news. this exact same thing, bred, happened in 2016. aviation same engine, same airline, and same damage,
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short of a window puncture. take a look at this photo on board an engine of southwest flight in 2016 compared to the one that failed today. this engine is a gecfm 56, 7 b 22 engine. it's made by cfm international inc. what occurred is an uncontained fan failure or throwing a fan blade as it's called by the experts, which, by the way, is a rare occurrence but experts tell me it does happen on occasion. and it happened today. now the flight was carrying 143 passengers and five crew members. the pilot's crew and passengers all worked together to survive this horrific flight. bret? >> bret: amazing story. julie, thank you. again we are waiting for the c.e.o. of southwest airlines speaking in dallas. it has not started yet as you can see there about this incident today. we'll turn that around when we get it but there is much more news today to tell you about. the talk was warm, tensions
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remain as president trump welcomes japanese prime minister shinzo abe to his mar-a-lago estate today amid concerns over trade and north korea. the meeting between the two leaders came as word that north and south korea are working to formally end the state of war that has lasted more than 60 years. president trump trying to reassure his ally about his upcoming meeting. the meeting between himself and north korean leader kim jong un. but down playing what could be a very historic event. chief white house correspondent john roberts reports on the summit from florida. >> president trump today welcoming japan's prime minister to mar-a-lago for the second time. the two are friends and may play golf tomorrow morning. but these talks could be contentious at times. >> we're going to be discussing trade with japan. we are going to be discussing military. we're going to be discussing security. and we will, i am sure, at the outset, we are going to get along.
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when it's all over we are going to get along even better. >> today word that north and south korea are working towards signing an official peace agreement to supersede the cease-fire that has been in place for 65 years. >> they do have my blessing to discuss the end of the war. >> the planned meeting between president trump and north korean leader kim jong un is giving japan heart burn. shinzo abe seeking assurances from the president. the japanese interests won't be given short shift. >> for north korean issues, i like to underscore the importance of achieving the complete verifiable and irreversible abandonment of missile program north korea. >> john was senior director for arms control and counter proliferation in the obama white house. he says abe wants security guarantees in any denuclearization deal. >> abe doesn't want trump to get a deal that does that but leaves japan vulnerable to medium range missiles and residual nuclear capability. they want to coordinate the
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positions and make sure japan is not left out in the cold. >> president trump tried to calm those fears today saying he will faithful represent japan's interests if and when he sits down with kim. >> they do respect us. we are respectful of them. and we're going to see what happens. we will bring up the many different things. i think it's a time to talk. >> prime minister abe may hear less talk when it comes to aid. 69 brld trade deficit the u.s. has with japan. chief economic advisor larry kudlow saying the trade agenda will be comprehensive. >> it's going to be the exclusions from the national security tariffs on steel. it's going to be about market opening initiatives by japan. it's going to be about tpp will be on the conversation. >> japan wants to see the u.s. back in the trans-pacific partnership. but president trump says he wants to negotiate a bilateral free trade deal with japan first. the president tweeting last week that the u.s. already
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has bilateral deals with six of the 11 nations in tpp and are working to make a deal with the biggest of those nations, japan, who has hit us hard on trade for years. >> he is not a big fan of these multilaurel agreements. multilateral agreements. bilateral like we will talk with japan today and tomorrow. so we will see about this. >> japan is worried that president trump may link trade and security with a message that if japan wants security assurances on north korea, he needs to move on trade. >> and president trump also revealed today that the white house has been having direct talks with north korean officials about setting up that summit with kim jong un, likely in either late may or early june and that they have narrowed down the location for those talks to five possible sites. though no word on what those sites are. president trump sounding optimistic about the opportunity to sit down with kim, best of your recollection at the same
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time saying we will see. maybe not. bret? >> bret: john, a bit of a dust-up it seems inside the administration tonight. you had the u.s. ambassador to the united nations nikki haley yesterday saying that russian sanctions more of them were on the way. possibly as soon as this week. and then you had a response, talking to dana perino after larry kudlow said she might have been confused, quote: with all due respect, i don't get confused. seems like there may be a back and forth happening there. >> a little bit of a back and forth there, bret. we heard from the white house in a statement yesterday that nothing has changed. they are still considering sanctions but nothing to announce at this time. but for the very first time an administration official was asked about this in person. larry kudlow always tells people what's on his mind and today he said that nikki haley got a little ahead of the curve. there was perhaps some momentary confusion there, which prompted her to give that sharp retort. she apparently, according to dana perino, has been trying to get in touch with larry kudlow all day. he hasn't been taking her
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call because he is wrapped up in this japan bilateral but she is going to try to get him tonight and i don't want to be him when she does. >> bret: john roberts, traveling with the president. john, thanks. in a blow to the trump administration the u.s. supreme court ruled today that part of the federal law that makes it easier to deport immigrants who have been convicted of crimes is too vague to be enforced. the court's 5-4 decision included president trump's own conservative appointee. justice neil gorsuch aligning with the four liberal justices. president trump just tweeted moments ago about this case saying today's court decision means that congress must close loopholes that block the removal of dangerous criminal aliens including aggravated felons. this is a public safety crisis that can only be fixed by congress. house and senate must quickly pass a legislative fix to ensure violent criminal aliens can be removed from our society, keep america safe. just moments ago. well, your ability to avoid paying sales tax by shopping
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online is up for debate by the u.s. supreme court as well. in a decision from the justices could affect the price you pay by checking out over the internet. correspondent garrett tenney looks at that argument before the court. >> the days of paying less for shopping online could be coming to an end. 42 states are locked in a heated battle with some of the internet's biggest retailers over the ability to charge sales taxes. a lot of online retailers don't collect sales taxes, which is, in part, why items will often cost a bit less than they do at physical bring and mortar store. that might be great for customers. but for the states, that can add up to billions of dollars in lost tax revenue. south dakota is leading this charge asking the high court to overturn its long standing precedent. >> out of state retailers get a price advantage. all we are asking the supreme court is to make the level playing field and we're going to treat everybody the same. >> during arguments today the justices appeared reluctant to overturn their
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prior rulings. much of the discussion revolved around the burden that small online businesses and start-ups would face if forced to collect sales taxes. attorneys for online retailers said that burden would be significant given there are 12,000 tax jurisdictions in the country, each with their own rates, rules and holidays. chief justice john roberts seemed to agree. it's not that ecommerce is expanding. the problem you have to address the coverage in terms of collecting the taxes is expanding as well. justice neil gorsuch took an opposing view arguing the court shouldn't be picking winners and losers, saying why should we favor this court favor a particular business model that relies not on bring and mortar but on mail order? the state's counter small businesses can easily comply with the various taxes by using accounting software. but outside the court, several independent online sellers disagreed. >> it is arrogant to say how easy it is to comply with online sales tax and then you want me to do it in 46
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states and with thousands of jurisdictions and you think you just flip a switch to do that? good luck because it doesn't happen that way. >> this argument comes amid president trump's feud with the largest online retailer. while amazon is not a party in this case, the ruling could impact third party sellers on the site who don't collect sales taxes. the justices are expected to issue a decision by the end of june. bret? >> bret: garrett, thank you. this tax filing day president trump says americans are winning because of tax reform. for more on that and where we are headed next we turn to kevin brady chairman of the house ways and means committee. mr. chairman, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> bret: got the tax law done. it's tax day. a year before you see the changes. your thoughts at how this is shaping up and, you know, the criticism that you all took for getting this passed. >> yeah, so, i hate tax day. i think most families do. they hate tax week. the good news is this is the last time americans will
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file their taxes under that old complicated unfair tax code. going forward it will not just be simpler. families will keep more of what they earn. main street business also keep more of what they earn. we are redesigned it so u.s. companies can compete and win anywhere in the world especially here at home. we are already seeing economic benefits from it. families now are already seeing higher paychecks because their tax withholding has lowered. so individuals stop and thank us for that and, again, main street optimism is at 30 year high. >> bret: today, you saw speaker ryan talking about fully intending to make the tax cuts permanent. how is that possible? >> we made them long term for families and for small businesses. but because the senate rules, weren't able to make them permanent. we think one of the provisions in phase 2 should be to make them permanent. but, more than that, we are really trying to change the culture in washington. instead of waiting 30 years, and falling far behind our
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competitors worldwide, we think we ought to move aggressively each year to make america more competitive, to make businesses more productive, to encourage more innovation and we are always looking for ways to make our tax code more family friendly. you know, just helping families stretch their budgets farther. our goal is every year to make our tax code and our country stronger. >> bret: all right. stretching budgets. you have the cbo out with budget deficit projections. and you take a look at the years. 804 billion in 2018. and it trickles up over a trillion dollars as you look down to 2028. 1.5 trillion. i'm going to play a sound bite from a guy you know, representative kevin brady. >> excessive federal spending is our disease. large federal budget deficits and accumulating federal debt are symptoms of this disease. if you cure our spending disease, the symptoms will vanish. if you treat the symptoms, you may temporarily alleviate some of the pain. but over time our economy will continue to weaken.
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our international competitiveness will erode and our children will become the first generation in american history that is poorer than the previous generation. >> bret: that was 2011. still true today? >> it is. the cbo report, not reported by very many is that tax revenues in america actually grew after tax reform. so, it's the spending that grew faster. so, my point is that we don't have a revenue problem. we have a spending problem. and that's where we need to focus our efforts. i'm convinced we could start with the rescission package of savings cuts that the president is proposing working with congress. secondly, and i think this would be, i think, a major signal to america. the house has already passed a bill. last year with the trillion dollars of savings. in the first reforms of entitlement medicaid in its history. it's sitting in the senate today, just a couple votes short. we're going to encourage the senate to move on that bill because we think that takes a significant step forward.
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>> bret: speaking of the senate. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell was on with neil cavuto talking about rescission effort earlier. >> the president meanwhile is looking at 1.3 trillion-dollar spending measure. wants to rescind a lot of that spending. are you okay with it. >> he agreed with it he was involved in the negotiation and signed the bill. >> neil: but he warned i'm never going to do this again. >> we had an agreement with the democrats. >> neil: were you surprised by what he said came out -- >> -- can't make an agreement one month and say okay, we really didn't mean it and come back the next month and say oh, we really didn't mean our agreement. >> bret: that doesn't sound very promising about rescission possibilities. >> look, before recent history, rescissions were pretty common. they happened many years. congress didn't take all of what presidents proposed but they took some of them. i can't think of a more important time for that to happen. this message today, for example, congress is moving forward with the first redesign of the irs in two decades. redesigning it refocusing it on customer service and
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reigning in the abuses of it you know, we ought to be looking at tax savings and, excuse me, on spending savings. i think, every day. >> bret: do you think anything else big, legislatively, is going to happen before the mid terms? >> so i think the redesign and reigning in the irs is one that could go to the president's desk. i think it's important for us now that we're armed with one of the best tax codes on the planet, we need more customers, so i think a new modern nafta by the end of the year i think is critically important to the economy. i think we ought to move on workforce. look, there is only two things holding us back now that we have a new tax code. we need new customers and we need more workers. that's where we think there are a lot of americans who are trapped on the sideline in our welfare system. we shouldn't give up on them and frankly, the country needs them. so i think we can make progress there. >> bret: last thing. as you look to the mid terms, you are now at 42 republicans either not running, retiring.
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charlie dent is getting out of office before he was going to finish up his term. the speaker of the house is not running again. that's an uphill battle for holding onto the house. >> it is an uphill battle. it is historically and it is this time. people don't vote in april. they vote in november. and a lot can happen between now and then. and i think, again back home i see a new optimism on main street. i see it among our workers. and now we are seeing jobs coming back to the united states and giving us new hope. america is back because of this tax reform. so at the end of the day, i think voters are going to choose if they want to go back to this tax code they filed with today, with taking more of what they earn, or do they want a new feature for the country? >> bret: mr. chairman on this tax day, we thank you for your time. >> thank you, bret. >> bret: defense secretary james mattis and joint chiefs chairman joseph dunford met behind closed doors on the president's decision to strike syria. this as the state department pushed back on reports that inspectors are now in doma, the site of last week's chemical attack.
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national correspondent jennifer griffin following all of this tonight from the pentagon. >> good evening, bret. the state department pushed back on reports that an international chemical weapons team had reached the site of the alleged chemical weapons attack outside damascus, adding the delay may have given the russians more time to tamper with the site. >> our sources, which we consider to be reliable, indicate that the team has not yet been able to enter douma. that is our understanding of the situation, at least as of right now. >> defense secretary jim mattis and general joe dunford briefed the entire house and senate in closed door classified meetings on the syria strike. mattis has been restrained in what he has said publicly. >> we did what we believed was right under international law. under our own nation laws. and i hope at this time the assad regime got the message. >> the pentagon has pushed back on israeli criticism that the allies did not destroy all of assad's chemical weapons sites adding that was never the
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goal. and would have risked civilian casualties or killing russians. >> regime -- >> -- i would say there is still a residual element of the syrian program that's out there. i'm not going to say they are going to be unable to continue to conduct a chemical attack in the future. >> late last night syrian state television announced the country was under attack again. this time at the sherri rot air base launched 59 missiles a year ago. confusion ensued showing just how jumpy the syrian military is right now. syrian state tv blamed israel and the u.s. for electronic attack causing the false alarm. the pentagon was forced to issue a statement quote there are no u.s. or coalition operations in that area homs. we don't have anything additional to provide. fox news has learned deception did play a key role in the weekend strike. russian and syrian radar never saw the missiles coming. what became apparent was despite threats to hit u.s. and allied ships involved in the strike russia blinked.
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bret? >> bret: jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. jennifer, thank you. next up, president trump goes on to battle with california's governor over border security and a number of other things. what this deal might be all about next. ♪ ♪ before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn, lucy could only imagine enjoying a slice of pizza. now it's as easy as pie. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? for all-day, all-night protection. ♪ better than all the rest ♪ applebee's new bigger bolder grill combos. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. this is a story about mail and packages. and it's also a story about people. people who rely on us every day to deliver their dreams
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♪ ♪ >> bret: venezuela's most important industry facing some major upheaval tonight. reuters reporting thousands of oil workers are quitting the state-run industry over disagreements with its new military commander who, according to union leaders, has quickly alienated everyone from the rank and file to several executives at foreign companies operating there, adding to the already severe situation with the economic downfall in venezuela.
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we'll continue to cover all the news from that country. meantime, back in this country, the governor of the golden state came to washington today amid his battle with president trump over what california's national guard troops will enforce at the mexican border. tonight correspondent peter doocy reports on that rift and whether it can be repaired. >> california's governor jerry brown, the only democratic governor of a border state, says he is pretty close to a deal to become the last border state to fulfill president trump's wish of sending hundreds of national guardsmen to the border. >> the guard is chomping at the bit, ready to go. >> but, there is a catch. california's guardsmen are not going to try to keep nonviolent border crossers out. in d.c. today governor brown stood by the letter he sent to dhs secretary kirstjen nielsen which says in part it will not be a mission to round up women or children or detain people escaping violence and seeking a better life. president trump recently reintroduced brown's decades old nickname moon beam to the discussion. meant to portray the governor as too liberal,
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tweeted looks like jerry brown in california are not looking for safety and security along their very porous border. the governor shot back that certain statutes are being followed. >> wait a minute, he is trying to stop drug smuggling, human trafficking, and guns going to mexico to the cartels? that sounds to me like fighting crime. >> brown blames republicans in congress and their failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform for adding anxiety to the lives of illegal immigrants who have led otherwise lawful lives for years. >> it's just inflammatory football that very low life politicians like to exploit. >> while inspector border wall prototypes last month, president trump lashed out at brown for his state's sanctuary city policy. >> i think the governor is doing a terrible job running the state of california. >> brown, now 80 years old, has three presidential campaigns under his belt. is he positioning himself for a fourth? >> i can't think of anything less attractive than a
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democratic presidential primary. >> governor brown admits democrats are having some identity problems right now. and that looking ahead to 2020, a new leader of the party has not emerged yet. brown says he is looking but while he does, he is the one who has got president trump's attention at least for today. bret? >> bret: peter, thank you. the dow jumped today 214. the s&p 500 was up 29. the nasdaq finished ahead 125. a good day on the markets. upettes next, what you need to know about the recall of some 200 million eggs. first, here's what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 25 in oklahoma city where firefighters are continuing to battle a massive wildfire. the oklahoma forrest industry services report the refire in northwestern part of that state has almost scorched 250,000 acres. fox 4 in kansas city where st. louis prosecutors are reviewing evidence that missouri's attorney general believes could bring another felony charge and possible
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impeachment for republican governor eric greitens. attorney general josh pauly announced today that his investigation found evidence that greitens may have used a charity donor list for political purposes. greitens calls those allegations and others false. and this is a live look at philadelphia from fox 2, our affiliate there one of the big stories there tonight, a judge ruled today that the jury can hear decade old testimony from bill cosby about giving quaaludes to women before sex. cosby is on trial on charges he drugged and molested former temple university basketball administrator andrea constand at his home in 2004. the deposition was included in his first trial which ended with a hung jury last year. that's tonight's live look outside the beltway from "special report." we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ insurance that won't replace
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seven injured after witnesses say a southwest flight engine exploded mid-air. the ceo of southwest airlines, gary kelly, speaking fro dallas about the death of that passengers on one of his company's flights. he said this just a short time ago. >> this is a very sad day and on behalf of the entire southwest family, i want to extend my deepest sympathies for the family and the loved ones of the deceased customer. we quickly launched our emergency response program upon learning of this incident. we are sending a go team to philadelphia shortly. >> bret: kelly says the investigation is ongoing but that that plane was inspected sunday. and he said they are trying to figure out exactly what happened. the flight from new york to dallas was carrying 14 people on board when it had to make an emergency landing as we reported in
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philadelphia. we'll follow that story. some of america's hardest working men and women are farmers. and they are feeling caught in the middle of a president trump's fight with china on trade. and they're asking the president to rethink his position on the matter before it's too late for them. correspondent doug mckelway has part one of our series on the fate of american farms. >> douglas comey and his employees arrive at one of hundreds of fields they farm throughout virginia. but the wind means spreading fertilizer will have to wait. unpredictable weather like this has kept farmers looking at the up sky for centuries. today they are also looking towards washington. china has trend retaliation of the proposed 25% tariff on u.s. corn, s soybeans and many other u.s. agricultural exports. >> it would put many people out of business, including maybe myself. we can't keep going without nothing. >> the looming trade war has rallied farm state lawmakers who see widespread economic
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damage to rural america if a trade war erupts. >> about one in five jobs are tied to trade. so we really feel the brunt of that in our state. >> in anticipation of retaliation, the administration floated a trump proposal for softening the blow to farmers. >> he has asked the department of agriculture to protect our farmers and present a plan on specifics of that shortly. >> many believe farmers want support not from the government but from markets. >> we need china. china needs us. china is very important to u.s. agriculture. and it is my sincere hope that this situation will be deescalated. >> last week farm state lawmakers met with the president warning him of the damage to agriculture. they came away encouraged. senator joni ernst was one of several who coaxed the president to consider reengaging in the trans-pacific partnership. >> i have long, long been pushing for tpp. and i say it not just as an advantage for our farmers
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and ranchers in getting our commodities into those pacific nations, but i also see it as a matter of national security. >> just days later, the president brochesd the subject of reentering an improved tpp while still believing farmers are willing to make sacrifices if it means fairer trade with china. >> they all said, look, we may have to take a little bit of a hit. i don't think they will. >> there may be limits how much of a hit farmers will take. 60% of rural americans voted for donald trump in 2016. in a new election year, where some predict democrats may retake the house, alienating those rural voters is not a strategy for keeping the house. bret? >> bret: part one of our series. doug, thank you. more than 200 million eggs are being recalled in nine states due to fears of bacterial contamination. tonight correspondent jonathan serrie reports on what you need to be aware of with this vast recall. >> federal health officials are investigating a salmonella outbreak linked to eggs. >> this particular salmonella outbreak we have 23 infections in nine
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states. there have been six hospitalizations and luckily there have been no deaths reported. >> rose acre farms the nation's second largest egg producer has voluntarily recalled 200 million eggs sold under multiple grand names to grocery stores and restaurants in these nine states. the company explained in a statement some of the reported illnesses were linked to grocery stores where rose acre farms does not supply eggs at all. nevertheless, the company conduct withed the recall out of an abundance of caution to ensure that we are doing everything possible to preserve the trust that we have built with consumers and their families for many decades. >> so this is another large egg outbreak that we're seeing eggs that were sold in many stores across the country and a lot of different brands. we want people to check the eggs that are in their refrigerator. >> salmonella outbreaks are common in the u.s. 23,000 hospitalizations and 450 deaths each year. although most people recover after several days of fever, cramps and other gastrointestinal issues without having to see a
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doctor. consumers can reduce the risk of illness by thoroughly cooking meat and eggs and washing hands and counter tops that have come in contact with raw or undercooked food. find the product recall at eggs at fda.gov. >> current outbreak distributed from a harm in hyde county, north carolina. rose erics farm says this is the first recall for this facility which is temporarily suspended delivery of shell eggs. in the meantime the company is filling orders from its other farms around the country. bret? >> bret: jonathan, thank you. up next, president trump tries to calm on japanese ally over tensions of trade and north korea. the panel weighs in next. ♪ ♪
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has plans to meet with north korea so see if they can end the war. and they have my blessing on that. japan and ourselves are locked and we are very unified on the subject of north korea. conversations will we'll be having meetings with kim jong un very soon. it will be -- that will be taking place probably in early june or a little before that. assuming things go well. >> bret: president trump in mar-a-lago meeting with japanese prime minister shinzo abe. they do have a close relationship. the president going to japan. one of the first leaders, if the first leader to congratulate president trump after his election victory. but there is som shaky questions about japanese point of view what is happening with north korea and also on the issue of trade and these tariffs and what's next. let's bring in our panel steve hilton is a former advisor to former british prime minister david cameron and host on fox news
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channel. and mara liasson and jonah goldberg national review. mara, when you listen to, this we are obviously trying to get something but it is a little bit of hand holding for japan considering what is going to happen with north korean meeting. >> concerned about what's going to happen with the north korea meeting. japan is worried about short range missiles that could hit their country. we're worried about long range missiles. they are the only remaining ally that has not been given exemption from steel tariffs. that's something they want to accomplish in this meeting. >> bret: but, in part, they are talking about a number of things, including possibly opening up, steve, tpp, trans-pacific partnership. >> yeah. i think that the general position that the president seems to have and i think increasingly his team is skepticism about these multilateral trade deals. i share that. and for the reason of democratic accountability. when you do these big deals, the people who end up implementing them, making the rules, are unaccountable
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international bureaucrats. i think that bad, that's a bad outcome. and so, generally, i think skepticism is in order. but, if they can get back into tpp and bring back some of the accountability, that is strategically good because the people who are really hate that, the chinese regime. and that's a really long term strategic threat. which is china and its stated ambition to dominate the world militarily and economically. and so anything that strengthens the forces against the chinese regime i think is good. >> bret: as the u.s. pulled out of the tpp china moved in to some of those relationships and kind of closed the door almost. so, let me play this sound bite from larry kudlow on the possibility that this gets back in the mix. >> it's possible if and only if there are major improvements to the existing tpp. that's the president's key point. he is not a big fan of these multilateral agreements. he would rather go country
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to country. so-called bilateral like talk with japan tomorrow or today and tomorrow. so, we'll see about this. he wants to take another look at it. >> bret: jonah. >> yeah, i mean one of the things that kind of got l.s.u. in the campaign in 2016 poet the primaries and the generals is the fact that the tpp was designed to constrain china. by pulling out of it without any concessions or trade, we actually gave this enormous geopolitical gift to china. and if the white house wanted more protectionism, more tariff on china, we could have traded pulling out for tpp for something glorious. we didn't do that i was talking to a very prominent international trade lawyer today about all of this. i think it's literally impossible not literally impossible but almost impossible to go back to the tpp. go back to the thing we pulled out of politically impossible for trump. how do you explain that you pulled out of something that you say is a good deal four without any changes and that
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you. >> bret: contingency. >> hav you have to get something out of it. the second you do that with one of these complicated multilateral things, you have to renegotiate it's spider web. >> bret: like pulling a spider out of a sweater. >> japan wanted us back in. when they formed the mini tpp. the tpp minus the u.s. they merely suspended a lot of the things we wanted. they didn't completely eliminate them. there is still a possibility. if trump finally wakes up and decides, wow, i want leverage against china, here is this thing that could give me that i think they could get back in. >> bret: i want to play this other sound bite about the upcome meeting with kim jong un. this again is the president in mar-a-lago. >> i look forward to meeting with kim jong un. and hopefully that will be a success. they do respect us. we are respectful of them. we will bring up the many different things. there is a great chance to solve a world problem. this is not a problem for the united states.
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it's not a problem for japan or any other country. it's a problem for the world. >> bret: you know, and, steve, i was over in japan. i interviewed shinzo abe. they're concerned that their issues are talked about, the people have been abducted and held in north korea. the concern about as mara mentioned mid range missiles. do they have a right to be concerned about this sitdown one-on-one? >> yes. they should be pleased that it's happening because it's in everyone's interest for the situation to come back from the precipice that it seemed to be on. so the fact that people are talking, the fact that these -- already between the north and south, the fact that these talks are happening, that's all good news for japan, for the region, and for the whole world. and this meeting today is very helpful because it will put at the front of the president's mind those concerns of japan. and they will really be there present when he is thinking about the strategy for the talks and then the talks themselves. >> bret: is there any doubt that the president's
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unpredictability and how he talks about this has forced where we are today? >> no. i think he definitely gets considerable credit for forcing at the very minimum these rhetorical concessions which means something for north korea to talk about ending the war. that means something that's significant to talk about denuclearization. that is significant. i'm still deeply skeptical not criticism of donald trump but observation of the north koreans, they have considered being a nuclear power. the central focus of their foreign policy and they have lied their way to get to it for two decades. the idea they are going to give that up suddenly without some assurances that they get -- i don't think we could give? i'm just very skeptical. >> bret: we shall see. next up, california's governor vs. president trump. ♪ ♪ finally, it was like the sun rose again and i was going to start fighting back now.
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>> they have certain sanctuary rules that are different than the state. if you read that state rule, you are going to find out it's very measured. >> i want to show you the number of people who have weighed in. this thin stack that support governor brown's actions on sanctuary states state. now i want to share with you something quite interesting. the number of people that have communicated with me in san diego county, the people who do not support moving forward with governor brown's sanctuary state. >> bret: san diego county supervisor there. the president tweeting about this issue on sanctuary cities or sanctuary laws. looks like jerry brown in california are not looking for safety and security. along their very porous border. he cannot come to terms with the national guard to patrol and protect that border. the high crime rate will only get higher. much wanted wall in san diego already started. that dealing with the national guard what they will and won't do. here are the lists of anti-sanctuary cities or
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counties. and, again, san diego county was just added here internal division within the state of california on the issue of immigration and how to handle it we're back with our panel. steve, you're out there. it's a controversial issue. >> yes. it is. i think there is a context here that we have to remember, which is that the california democrat, i'm going to say something now which i said before but i love saying it so i'm going to say it again. they have gone so far left, they are halfway to hawaii. they really have gone in such an extreme left direction that it makes it almost impossible to imagine any kind of cooperation at all. when the national guard plan was announced, it was actually surprising to me that jerry brown offered any kind of cooperation and he did. it was a pretty reasonable offer. then he got grief from his base because he are in love with this image of the california democrats as the crucible of the resistance against trump. so he was walked that back somewhat. i think it shows that the
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politics of california right now, meaning that you don't just get any credit at all for doing anything vaguely cooperative with this administration. >> bret: he was asked about that today, governor brown here in d.c., asked about finding common ground. >> the fact is, america has 10 to 11 million people that are here. and they are human beings, they have families. it's very important that they be integrated in a humane, intelligent way. we want to be cooperative, i appreciate the president's tweet when he thanked me. there has been a little bit of back and forth as you always get with bureaucrats. i think we can find common understanding here. >> bret: he is just being very specific about what his troops can and cannot do. >> look, jerry brown is one the most experienced, effective politicians right now. i would say he is probably the most effective. and he knows that sometimes you cooperate with the president as he did when he
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explained what his national guard troops would do and wouldn't do. and other sometimes he has to acknowledge that in his state this idea of sanctuary is very powerful. i think he is doing a pretty good job of straddling that. >> bret: if you put the question about sanctuary state, city, county, whatever it is, just to a poll, it does not poll well. >> no, it doesn't. and, look, i'm a huge proponent of federalism. i give talks about how we need to send power back down to the states. but, the actual power over immigration is a federal power. and i find the sanctuary city laws while i understand them as a matter of community relations and law enforcement to be kind of outrageous. you can understand why that frustration exists there. that said, you know, this is but a dozen people on this list of cities. i looked it up. california has 58 counties and 482 municipalities. so, this is-i what's interesting to me about this as a political nerd is how much of this is really
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concentrated in the old classic orange county plus conservative rock red reagan california and those guys are still down there and they are still fly flying the flag. they are kind of like japanese soldiers in the war. >> bret: no thought that the president is going to win california. or that they are going to win seats in california. >> no. but any time the president can talk about immigration is a good day for him politically. it's just his go-to issue. it's important, it energizes his base around the country. it sends the message he wants to send. >> helps with fundraising from very wealthy counties. >> this is his touch stone issue. >> remember, the california republicans are actually just as elsewhere, very much behind the president. that's my experience with them day-to-day when i'm there. there is no reason position. because exactly as jonah said it's a reasonable one. it's something that is a federal policy and should be as such. >> bret: panel, thank you. a master class in avoiding
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♪ >> bret: we just told you california governor jerry brown here in d.c. speaking to the d.c. press for today, touched on a lot of topics, but jim comey is in the news. when asked about his past criticism of former fbi director james comey, the governor seemed to take his time on the actual answer. >> reporter: you are aware that james comey is guilty of a gross -- >> who said that? >> reporter: you said that. >> i say so many things. >> reporter: you said that about a year and a half ago. >> where was it when i said that? >> reporter: right before the election. >> i would like to establish the predicate. >> bret: thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this speech may 9,
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