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>> bret: i don't know if that deal is coming together. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report." fair, balanced and unafraid. "the story" hosted by my friend martha maccallum, who was all the latest election news from the four states holding imaries starting right now. >> martha: what a gorgeous shot in front of the white house and a lot of excitement tonight as the polls have now closed in indiana. any minute now we will get our first look at where american voters stand out there on the g.o.p., on democrats, on the antiestablishment fervor that we have watched by president trump. good evening everybody, i martha maccallum and this is "the story" tonight. the first big primary day of 2018. if you've got ten states in the united states of america where democratic senators are up for reelection in seats that were handily won by president trump and you got three of those that have primaries this evening. as we await the first numbers out of indiana where republicans are battling for the chance to
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challenge one of the most vulnerable senate democrats and the whole country, if not the most in november. it is too early to project a winner in tonight's race in indiana. there is a live look at mike braun's headquarters. he sort of the outsider businessman candidate. in this race he's poured millions of his own money into the campaign. he is enjoying an early lead but it is to soon to say was going to win era. the winner of this race will face off against democratic senator joe donnelly in november. minutes from now also polls will close in west virginia and this one has been a barn burner and a lot of fun to watch. republicans hope that the winner of this wild g.o.p. primary could perhaps defeat joe manchin, the democrat in west virginia. the wild card in that race, former coal baron and ex-con whose probation ends this evening a minute after midnight, don blankenship. what did he do today when others were campaigning? he went shopping for a new suit.
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>> what is the time there? >> i think the people made up their minds so we can get a few things done and get ready for the general. >> martha: very confident don blankenship in the suit store there. we are watching the polls close in just minutes from now in key places in ohio and north carolina. great folks here with lots of expertise on what to watch. david bossie, former from deputy campaign manager, fox news contributor and he's also the president of citizens united, which is backing republican ag patrick morrisey in the west virginia race and republican jim renee c in the ohio senate race. chris stirewalt is with me as well, native west virginia and fox news politics editor. mo elleithee, executive director of georgetown university institute for politics. also a fox news contributor. and former ohio state senate minority leader. welcome to all of you. the excitement is building tonight as we watch this and we will get some indications and some people are going to feel really happy at the end of tonight and some are going to feel like their dreams have been
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sunk. chris stirewalt, let me start with you as you look across the map here, what stands out to you? what you watching? >> i want to give a shout out to my former taylor. >> martha: you know tony! >> my former taylor. >> martha: of course it is. >> i just came up from the decision desk and i can tell you that anybody who tells you that they know how this west virginia race is going to turn out doesn't know what they are talking about because we have never seen a contest like this in west virginia, ever, ever. there's going to be bigger turnout, there's more interest. they've never had a fox news debate there. they've never had a republican primary with $10 million in it. nobody knows what it's going to be and that's why we play the game, it's awesome. >> martha: david, your guy there, patrick morrisey and as chris said we don't know how this is going to turn out but this race has gotten a whole lot of attention and don blankenshi blankenship, who was trailing -- the polls are so tricky, it's hard to know how reflective they really were.
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he was trailing and then it looked like he picked up a bit of momentum, your thoughts? >> i think the west virginia race is an incredibly interesting one for the country as a whole but i'm hopeful that patrick morrisey, the two-time attorney general of west virginia wins. i think you will be the best candidate in a general election. however, if morrisey loses to jenkins, i think we have a terrific chance if either of those of the nominees to beat the incumbent democrat senator. the president won that state overwhelmingly by about 34 points. it is a place that donald trump can really help us defeat an incumbent u.s. senator that we need to be. it is going to be a long road if blankenship unfortunately wins that race. >> martha: will have a lot to talk about in either case there when we get some more information on that. capri, let me go to you. let's talk ohio, where you watching there? >> a number of things.
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first and foremost, the democratic primary for governor. a matchup of four individuals. two leading folks in this race, former attorney general of ohio, former treasurer and most notably the former head of the consumer protection finance bureau for the last eight years versus dennis kucinich. dennis the menace, who was a member of congress for a number of years and famously bankrupt the city of cleveland even though they actually endorsed him for this race. i actually voted -- my former colleague in the ohio senate who is also a form at senate minority leader because he's a guy who is common sense and can actually i think bring the trump voters back into the fold since he's from the valley like i am. it will be interesting to see because this is really a matchup between the progressive wing and dennis and the establishment wing and cordray. we will see how this plays out. >> martha: the establishment
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wing? >> compared to dennis he is the establishment wing. >> martha: that just pretty much sums it all. >> guns will be playing a big role in this race. the two other things to watch in this race in ohio, one is the vacant seat being left by jim renee c, endorsed by donald trump and i think the favorite certainly in the senate primary here to challenge brown. that open seat is predominantly the 16th congressional district in northeast ohio. these are republican leaning seats. on the republican side you have two main contenders in gonzalez and hagan. hagan is a young woman, current state representative. gonzalez is a former football star raising a lot of money. i think that's going to be a close race. then finally the race down for the special election in the house race vacated by pat deberry, that's basically the tea party freedom caucus versus
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the establishment down there. anybody's guess. that's a free-for-all. >> martha: that was impressive. that was very good. get that woman a whiteboard. thank you. mo, your thoughts on the establishment candidate rick cordray versus dennis kucinich in ohio? an interesting race to be sure to see was going to take the spot of governor kasich, who is term limited and vacating his spot, presidential aspirations of his own at this point. what do you think? >> i think there are people out there that are trying to turn this ohio democratic primary into some sort of rehash of establishment versus progressive or center left versus left and i don't think that's what this is at all. he seems to be walking into the primary with momentum. to say he is not a progressive -- the guy headed up the cfpb for five years. he was the guy picking on wall street, which is what
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progressives say they want. >> martha: close to align with elizabeth warren just to give folks at home feel for where he's coming from. that's his base. >> there was a time when the guy may be represented part of the left of the party, i don't know if that's this time. i don't know if that's what he has. he kind of represents more like a hand grenade throwing wing of the party. he is being supported by our revolution, which is the bernie sanders-backed super pac, but those guys aren't really democrats, right? they are the sort of hand grenade wing of the base. so this is more kind of like the disruptors versus the progressives and it just kind of shows how much sort of the shift in the power dynamic. >> martha: i got to leave it there because we will have a lot of numbers coming out so we will bring you guys back and we will be following this throughout the evening. there's a lot of characters out there. just looking at that whole list, there are some very interesting
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characters out there in these races tonight. we are going to cover it all. thank you guys, we will be back in a little bit. coming up the night, new documents raising fresh questions about torture. u.s. enhanced interrogation methods as others prefer to call them and gina haspel, president trump's pick to lead the cia, all on the eve of her senate confirmation hearing, plus strong words from president trump today on why he has decided that he's giving it a chance and it is time to pull the united states out of the iran nuclear agreement. staff sergeant robert bartlett, a retired u.s. soldier injured by an iranian bomb in iraq shares is deeply personal reaction straight ahead. >> if the regime continues its nuclear aspirations it will have bigger problems than it has ever had before. ♪ insurance that won't replace
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terms this way. >> iran's bloodied ambitions have grown only more brazen. the iran deal is defective at its core. if we do nothing, we know exactly what will happen. in just a short period of time, the world's leading state sponsor of terror will be on the cusp of acquiring the world's most dangerous weapons. i made clear that if the deal could not be fixed, the united states would no longer be a party to the agreement. i am announcing today that the united states will withdraw from the iran nuclear deal. we will be instituting the highest level of economic sanctions. america will not be held hostage to nuclear blackmail. we will not allow american
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cities to be threatened with destruction and we will not allow a regime that chance death to america to gain access to the most deadly weapons on earth. the united states no longer makes empty threats. when i make promises, i keep them. in fact, at this very moment, secretary pompeo is on his way to north korea in preparation for my upcoming meeting with kim jong un. finally, i want to deliver a message to the long-suffering people of iran. the future of iran belongs to its people. they are the rightful heirs to a rich culture and an ancient land and they deserve a nation that does justice to their dreams, honor to their history and glory to god. there has been enough suffering,
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death and destruction. let it end now. >> martha: iran immediately threatened to start the wheels turning on their nuclear weapons plan unless the european partners can keep this deal afloat. also right after the president's statement, report that israel carried out strikes near the syrian capital of damascus, a reinforcement of the bond between the united states and israel after the announcement of the exit from this deal. joining me now, someone who has been waiting for this decision and working towards this decision on the hill for a very long time, retired staff sergeant robert bartlett, who has joined us several times over the last year, an advisor to united against nuclear iran. personally injured by an iranian roadside bomb while he was serving our country in iraq. there's a look at the vehicle that he was driving at the time back in 2005. long outspoken as i said against this deal. thank you so much for being with us tonight.
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your thoughts as you watch the president speak those words today? >> thank you, mr. president. i really appreciate it. it's a great anniversary for me. 13 years ago last thursday we got blown up. i was cut in half from the left corner of my temple down through my job. my gunner todd bishop lost his legs. at my truck commander, god rest his soul, sergeant brooks, was killed instantly and this new adventure of mine started to do the right thing and continue to protect the country. >> martha: i know that you are horrified by the lines of this deal. $180 billion in cash was flown to iran and into the pockets essentially of the head of the iranian republican guard. talk to me about what you believe he did with that money and why you think this deal was such a mess from the beginning. >> we know what he did with the
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money. he began spreading more terror. that's exactly what he did. it went right to his military. increased their gdp by five, ten fold that same year. and then all of a sudden you saw more things happening in yemen and other countries. we know exactly what they did with the money because the people are starving. that's why there was an uprising, because the money wasn't going to them. try to spend some money to try to fix something. to buy them off. it doesn't make sense, chicago politics. >> martha: as you know, president obama, john kerry, everybody really reacted very strongly to this. here's president obama, the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding america's credibility. the decision to put it at risk without any iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake.
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>> diplomats got killed under his office and ambassador stevens. these are all policies that his state department and his people stood by and put this thing together. they just got more people killed and it will continue to get more people killed by the spread of terrorism. how can giving billions of dollars to a country who hasn't stopped spreading terrorism first and saying we will give you billions if you just don't build nuclear weapons, how about no. you are spreading terrorism, you are not giving any money. we will put more sanctions on and clean them up just like we did with north korea. it didn't make sense to give them billions of dollars in the middle of the night, come on. what are we doing? what are you doing for those people that died for this country is like my friends? >> martha: i know you named your son after your friend william. >> that's right. >> martha: sergeant robert bartlett, thank you very much.
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we wanted to hear from you because we knew that you were going to be very moved and very happy about what happened. been working on it for a long time so we thank you for being here tonight. good to see you as always. thank you for your service. >> thank you very much, i appreciate it. >> martha: president trump's decision today trying some criticism as we said at home and some abroad. european leaders called it regrettable. they have put together a statement to try to hold united states into this agreement, president obama and john kerry, who has been working behind the scenes to try to convince the foreign minister of iran to find a way to stay in this deal. joining me now, democratic senator chris of delaware. also a member of the foreign relations committee. good to see you, thank you for being with us. >> thanks for a chance to be on again. i want to convey to sergeant bartlett, his story was very powerful and a reminder that all of us who see iran clearly as a terrorist threat in the region, democrats and republicans need to continue to work together to make sure that we find a way to
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successfully constrain iran's ongoing bad and threatening behavior. >> martha: sergeant bartlett i think would ask why would we ever sign an agreement that entailed sending $180 billion in cash to iran that was then used on things like their effort to kill people in the civil war in syria. how was that ever a good idea? >> first because we didn't. $180 billion in cash did not get sent to iran from the united states. but more important than whether or not the number is right is whether or not the spirit is right. i understand why sergeant bartlett would be angry about that agreement and i understand some of president trump's criticisms of the iran agreement. it did not intend to deal with the ballistic missile program. it did not intend to deal with their domestic human rights problems and it did not deal with their support for terrorist organizations in the region. in fact, the iran deal specifically allowed us to continue to sanction those activities by iran. what i wish the president had done instead is to work with our
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european partners, france, germany, the u.k., to impose tough sanctions on iran for the things they are doing in syria. >> martha: don't you think that's what's going to happen n no? the president has a very interesting foreign policy doctrine i think that is emerging. when you look at all of the different areas he's working in. he basically says let's join all of these ideas together. let's join trade, let's join our trade agreement. let's look at all of these issues across the board and let's hold iran accountable for its behavior. let's not strike a deal with iran that doesn't force any behavior change from this country that is the number one state sponsor of terror. if it's highly likely that at this point we will start to see a negotiation that gets closer to exactly what you want. >> i hope that is the case. and if it is successful that would be a good outcome. but given that we've got right in front of us the challenge of a nuclear capable north korea that has developed ballistic
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missiles and the upcoming negotiation between president trump and kim jong un, i would have urged -- i did urge him to give the iran agreement more time and to give our european partners more time because frankly we now raise questions with them, with the chinese and the russians and with the north koreans about how reliable we could be in any future agreement. and if iran chooses to walk away from this agreement and resume enrichment, we don't have a clear answer or a strategy from president trump and the administration over how we are going to deal with a restarted and renewed iranian program. the only reason that we have the pressure to really get onto the table in the first place was allies like south korea, india and others who stopped buying oil from india -- excuse me, from iran to reassemble the global powers that will force iran back to the table will take time. >> martha: one of the things that they want now is for all of those deals with iran between european countries and other
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countries to start to be unwound as part of this, to make those sanctions very powerful. condoleezza rice was asked about this earlier this week. she said if we get out of this deal is going to be just fine. she said it was rushed into the first place and we gave away a lot of things that we never should have given away. we will see. we will watch what happens, but there's definitely a lot of people who are unhappy with it as you are tonight. we will see. let's hope for the best. thank you very much, senator. good to see you tonight. as you know it is election night and we are watching it closely. it results coming in from indiana. still too early to project the winner given how many boats are in so far, but whoever does win this race, you can see mike braun, who was the outsider candidate at 41% is enjoying an early lead there. he is part of the trump outsider, whoever wins there will go up against joe donnelly, the current senator and in less than 6 minutes the polls will close in ohio, in west virginia and north carolina.
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closely here, and ohio, which also has a really interesting races. peter doocy is life at don blankenship's headquarters in west virginia is the former coal baron and ex-con looks to beat evan jenkins and patrick morrisey in that g.o.p. senate primary and ellison barber is live in dennis kucinich's headquarters in ohio where the former congressman is looking to defeat richard cordray for the democratic nomination there. first to peter doocy in west virginia. hi, peter. >> don blankenship has self-funded his entire three and a half million dollar campaign with the exception of one donation for $1,000. nobody is telling him what to do, and that's why his primary day included a trip to the tailor to get fitted for a new suit and a two hour nap. his final day radio ad actually repeated establishment republican attacks against him for being a bigot or mentally ill, but he explains to voters in the ad that even if those things are true he thinks he would be a better choice than congressman evan jenkins or
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attorney general patrick morrisey. morrisey and jenkins have something that blankenship doesn't, and that is the blessing of president trump. in a state where trump beat clinton by 42 points in 2016. morrisey's closing argument that it was all about electability. he believes that after the fox news debate last tuesday this became a two-man race race between himself and blankenship and that his resume is the only one conservative enough to flip democratic senator joe manchin c. morrisey watching results tonight in kearney's bill while congressman evan jenkins is down in barboursville. remember he was the front runner and the fox news poll released two weeks ago tonight. jenkins told us today is a little bit of nervousness but that he's put a lot into an aggressive campaign and he's looking forward to the results here in charleston. blankenship, whose probation ends at midnight is set to watch the results with about 100 family and friends and we are told that soon they are all going to be handed red and white hats with a message to the senate majority leader. they will say ditch match. martha. >> martha: we heard a lot of
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that. thank you very much. let's go over to the democratic senate primary in ohio where fox news correspondent ellison barber is live at the headquarters in cleveland. hi, allison. >> there has been of course a lot of concern in places like west virginia among republicans concerned that perhaps one candidate might be too far right and perhaps they won't be very electable, the general election. to some degree that exact same concern exists here in the ohio gubernatorial primary but on the opposite side of the political spectrum. that is the concern in many ways for democrats here. richard cordray is backed by the more establishment side of the democratic party. he served as the top consumer watchdog under the obama administration. former congressman is backed by the more progressive bernie sanders wing of the party. there are other democrats in this race but they are very much considered to be the top two candidates at this point. on the republican side in both the gubernatorial race as well
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as the senate primary race, president trump is a constant theme. most republican candidates seem to be trying to prove that they are more like him than their opponents are. of course president trump traveled to ohio this past weekend and he endorsed senate hopeful congressman jim renee c. that race is on the republican side because the income it senator does not have a primary challenger. the big question is did that visit from president trump on saturday help congressman, did it help turn out? that it helped convince people to go for him over the other republicans. of course it will be a little while before we know that, but the board of elections say they expect that about 1.6 million people to show up and vote today. the total number of registered voters here in ohio is about 7.9 million. >> martha: some pretty good turn out so far and some of these races. thank you very much. fox news canal project -- this is not a big surprise, senator joe manson will easily defeat the challenger on his primary side, while the gene to
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win back the democratic primary. there is one that we can tell you about. we don't know yet was going to win back on the republican side and who will go up against joe manchin in the fall. don blankenship, evan jenkins, the current congressman and the attorney general patrick morrisey are all vying for that position and as soon as we get some numbers rolling in west virginia we are all very interested to see how that's going to work out so we will get those up on the board as soon as we have them. in the meantime, this breaking story. you may remember new york attorney general eric snyderman going after harvey weinstein, one of the many people that he has gone after as ag in new york, but he really was a champion, we thought, for the #metoo movement. >> women were coerced into facilitating harvey weinstein's misconduct, sometimes they were targets themselves. if they refused, they were threatened. >> martha: he has gone head-to-head with powerful
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politicians including at times president trump himself, who tweeted back in 2013 weiner is gone, spitzer is gone. next will be lightweight ag eric schneiderman. is he a crook? wait and see. that was march of 2013 but now apparently what goes around comes around. four women have spoken out saying yes, he did it to me too. and this bombshell report the new yorker writes about one accuser saying "it's torturous for me to do this as she puts it, what do you do if your abuser is the top law enforcement official in the state, which on many occasions he was happy to remind these women of. hours after the report was published, eric schneiderman had already resigned. cohost of the five and former attorney and prosecutor, good to see you. this is quite a story. obviously it's a new york-based
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story but this is a person who went after president trump, went after chris christie and champion of women, these stories are unbelievable. >> it certainly has national implications. like you said, working as a former prosecutor in the area of domestic violence and sexual assault, women and children that had been physically and sexually abused, these are some of the most difficult cases to bring forward and working with them in terms of trying to get them to come forward to tell their story when they've been abused by someone, especially someone like you said, top law enforcement person, someone that used threats and intimidation to keep the women silent. four brief woman came forward as it relates to the new yorker and the executives and produces here at fox news know i've been working on an investigation into this case. i've been working with one of the victims of eric schneiderman and her horrific ordeal that she endured at his hands. she too was also very afraid to come forward and to tell her story, which is unbelievably
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harrowing and compelling and she is not one of the four that are mentioned in this new yorker piece. >> martha: wow. we are ready know there's. >> that's correct. there's more to come. >> martha: were you speaking with her -- the story came out last night. you were talking with her for a while. she is to come forward? speak of the past couple of months. she has made a decision to be able to come forward. she's afraid -- she's a single mom like myself. it's very difficult when you think about that type of thing and you think about going up against someone very powerful but you see these four brave women were able to do it and i think it's so compelling it will really give strength to others that have suffered at the hands, physical abuse. >> martha: these cases are all across the spectrum in terms of what people are accused of. this is beating. he was according to these woman's reports hitting them so hard in the head, by the eyes, that they had to go to physicians. she was bleeding in her ear, she
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couldn't hear form a week. >> one of the women detail that that she was struck so hard on the side of the head in the air that she had the ringing in the air, blood in her ear. that woman saw dr. gwen corbin, there's medical records, their medical records as well in the case i have been investigating and working with the victim. >> martha: what's going to happen legally? what's he up against? >> he's looking at potential misdemeanor felony charges depending on the nature of the abuse and a number of women coming forward. the manhattan district attorney's office has opened a case, long island has also opened an investigation to see the nature of the abuse and what kind of charges could be filed. it's very serious. it's criminal conduct. certainly assault of conduct, battery over. repeated period of time. he said role-playing. it is not role-playing. >> martha: one quote by the new yorker piece by ronan farrell, these women one after
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another were adamant this is not "fifty shades of grey." this was not an area of gray at all. this was assault over and over again. >> it was dark, it was ominous. it was something threatening and name calling, it's very difficult when you even think about and you hear some of these details and the details that i have heard and people will have no misconception that this wasn't consensual in this it was criminal in conduct. >> martha: we look forward to hearing more about your investigation as you move forward, thank you so much. great to have you here. >> martha: stick around, we are getting some more numbers and in the election results. this is politics across the nation tonight, folks. you see these conference rooms and hotel spaces where people are waiting to flood in and support of their candidate when we get some winners tonight and there will be some who have to give concession speeches as well this evening. all of that just hours before something else that's very important. gina haspel will be on the hill tomorrow for her confirmation hearing. new documents have surfaced and
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they are raising questions about her role in the cia enhanced interrogation technique program. liz cheney joins us with some thoughts about gina haspel's nomination next. >> she has the most qualified person to ever be nominated to run the cia. she has the best background, the best preparation. i think she is the right person at exactly the right time. ♪
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those claims, buzzfeed today releasing of cia documents about the program and the black sites. here no representative liz cheney of wyoming, daughter of former vice president dick cheney. to see you. thanks for being here. i want to ask about that but first i want to ask you about your reaction to the iran deal because i know that you have some thoughts on that as well. let's start there. >> i think the president did exactly the right thing today. president trump's decision to withdraw from the deal is courageous. perhaps the worst deal the united states has ever entered into. no access to military sites. the iranians got to continue to enrich. it was actually a pathway to a nuclear weapon and it didn't prevent them from obtaining one. the president was right. what he's done now is send a very clear message. we will not be bound by phony deals. we will not be in a situation where we will be taken advantage of. frankly it sends a terrific message also to the
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north koreans. it says we are absolutely committed to making sure that the world's worst sponsor of terror does not get access to nuclear weapons. it was a brave courageous decision and exactly the right thing to do. >> martha: we will see where that goes. in terms of gina haspel, tomorrow we do expect that there will be a lot of questions about her oversight of a black site in thailand for one period during a very long career with the cia. i guess how would you advise her to handle those questions? >> look, i think that we've got an effort underway right now, which is frankly disgraceful. she is probably the most qualified person who has ever been nominated to head the cia, the first career official in 52 years nominated for that position. somebody who has got support across the board, republicans, democrats, career officials at the agency. she is someone who is known as having integrity, she is someone who is known as somebody who is absolutely committed to the security of this nation and for the democrats and their allies in the media to be trying to
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smear her now with these attacks i think is really disgraceful. i'm confident that she will do well. >> martha: some of the specifics. in terms of the interrogation of ks m. this report from buzz fite that he lied while he was being water boarded while these advanced techniques were being used on him. gave up -- they didn't get useful information out of him after waterboarding. these are the kinds of questions she will get. >> number one i would urge people to go back. there is a 2004 report that was declassified by the cia. the title of the report is ksm was the source of the vast majority of our knowledge about al qaeda and is simply not the case that he gave that information prior to being water boarded. i would urge any of the senators who are going to oppose her, any who would stay in same we shouldn't have water boarded ksm. they should say how many lives
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they are willing to sacrifice so they don't have the water board terrorists. i wouldn't be willing to sacrifice any american lives. we know the program gave us information that helped save lives. we also know the program led directly, gave us clues that led directly to helping identify the location of osama bin laden and cia directors have said that from both parties throughout the period of time since the program was started and also was ended. it was a good program and it worked. >> martha: as always, the benefit of time. you have to really put yourself back in those moments as well. liz cheney, thank you so much. it's good to see you, thanks for being here tonight. so the polls have now closed in four key battleground states and primary results are starting to stream in. we are starting to get some numbers in west virginia. our political power panel coming up next. ♪ an trust.
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♪ >> martha: 7:51 on the east coast and the polls are now closed in indiana, ohio, north carolina and west virginia. in west virginia, fox news cannot project that senator joe manchin will easily defeat his challenger.
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right? >> i believe that is correct. >> martha: not a win tonight for her and no surprise that joe manchin easily moves on to phase one of these three gentlemen, although we don't know which one yet. a very hot race in west virginia that we have watched. don blankenship of course is the coal baron who used to be the ceo of massey energy in west virginia. he spent a year in prison after the explosion at the mines, lost 29 people and he's up against evan jenkins and patrick morrisey. let's bring in our friends who are with us tonight to cover the spirit of charlie hurt, chris stirewalt, mo elleithee and capri cafaro. welcome to all of you. charlie just joining us, welcom welcome. >> i think that what we are still seeing is especially in republican parts of the country you are seeing an electorate that is very much in the throes of antiestablishment fervor and
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probe from fervor. a guy like don blankenship, while he may give the vapors and anyone here in washington, he's got a real shot at winning the nomination now in west virginia. >> martha: chris? >> when the plane virginians are talking about getting the vapors you know that they've been spending too much time -- they've been spending too much time with the west virginians. i think charles is 150% right. i think that not just in west virginia, but in indiana there is a mold here to whatever degree that the president wants to stop this, he was the accelerant for this fire and telling republicans that they can't have what they want after trump demonstrated that they could, it was possible to pick with a told you not to and still win anyway. it's pretty hard then to turn around and say stop here. >> martha: we know that obviously mitch mcconnell is no big fan of don blankenship and this has been a really fascinating debate to watch
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between these two. they've been sniping at each other throughout the whole course of this thing. word is that mitch mcconnell and president trump spoke about this and president trump decided to come right out and say do not vote for don blankenship, he cannot win. but he could win tonight potentially. we will see. >> he could. and if he does it's because he's trying to say that he is trumpier dan trump. if like a ship pulls this out i think it will show that at least right now with the republican base, republican voters are more loyal to trump-ism then they are to trump. that's in it really interesting dynamic. the president will be 0 for 2 between this race and alabama and west virginia. compare that to the democrats in the west virginia congressional seat to replace jenkins where you've got this really interesting democrat, richard, who if he pulls it off the night running as a populist democrat,
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blowgun, prolabor. it really made name for himself as fighting -- standing with the teachers. you are seeing the debate between antiestablishment and economic populism. >> martha: quick thought of what you are watching at this moment? >> i think at this point the big thing in west virginia because that's what we're talking about. i talked too much about ohio before. >> martha: we didn't get to the school board though. >> i could tell you. here's the thing that i would say about west virginia right now. in all seriousness, trump said don't vote for blankenship, they didn't pick one of the other two. if the establishment can split the vote we will see what happens. i think that's good for blankenship. >> martha: quick break, we will be right back with more. ♪ until exxonmobil scientists put it to the test. they thought someday it could become fuel
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>> martha: breaking news just in and prepared remarks ahead of her hearing tomorrow, gina haspel will tell the senate intel committee i offer you my personal commitment clearly and without reservation that under my leadership, cia will not
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restart such a detention and interrogation program. so we will have to watch tomorrow and lots of incoming political news tonight. i will be here all night at the decision desk. tucker is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." there are four states with big primaries across the country. after a lecture breaking news we will bring you results as we get them intimate. but first we want to take you back 48 hours. new york attorney general eric schneiderman was the big deal then in widely respected government official. a feminist icon who was regarded by many as a potential democratic presidential nominee. there's not a progressive cross that eric schneiderman didn't embrace wholeheartedly and then in time to impose by forest on the people of new york state. schneiderman was an all-purpose left-wing activist.


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