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at 12:00 noon eastern tomorrow. melissa francis is in for harris. >> melissa: the president sending a tough new message on illegal immigration policy as the top republican warns of potential migrant crisis if congress fails to act. this is "outnumbered overtime." i'm melissa francis in for harris faulkner. new reaction as the house hopes to get the version of immigration reform across the finish line this week amid the controversy over illegal immigration policy at the border. the texas republican and homeland committee chair michael mccaul warning of a new crisis if they can't close the loophole in the current immigration law. watch. >> when you look at the kids down there. i have been down there. this is not the first time this has happened. this happened in 2014 as well. congress needs to act to close a legal loopholes that incentivize coyotes to bring
the children in to the united states. if we don't do that, we will see this scenario, the human tragedy play out over and over again. >> melissa: now president trump weighing in suggesting that some illegal immigrants be sent home without a hearing if they are caught crossing the border. the president tweeting, "hiring many thousands of judges and going through a long and complicated legal process is not the way to go. we will always be dysfunctional. people must simply be stopped at the border and told they cannot come in the u.s. illegally. children brought back to their country." and kevin corke has more from the north lawn. >> kevin: the reunification is ongoing. 500 families have been put back with their children. but the issue is one that won't be solved quickly. let me take you to twitter to share what the president is saying as he continues to try to unpack this idea of what can we do as a nation to somehow, some way solve the problem. he said, "we cannot allow all
the people to invade our country. when somebody comes in we must immediately" -- as you pointed out -- with no judges or court cases, bring them back to where they came. our system a mockery of good imbration policy or law and order. most children come without parents." there are 10,000 children in the d.h.s. care arrived on the doorstep alone. many have been separated from the parents by the way in a rare occasion happened in the obama administration. the president told t.b.n. over the weekend that democrats are the problem. >> president trump: if anything it shows how much we need the wall. but it's the democrats' fault but it wouldn't be their fault for long if they sat down with us. we could make a deal so quickly. looking like they really want open borders and they want really crime to pour in. because we have people. we are doing incredible job in terms of security. >> kevin: on capitol hill,
lawmakers continue to work toward a possible solution. mike mccaul says the hard work continues now more than ever. >> i would urge the president to continue to support the four pillars idea. that is my border security bill. going to a merit-based system and providing for a rational daca fix. that was rejected. as you mentioned the conservative bill that bob goodlatte and i sponsored. got ejected. i did talk to the white house yesterday. they say the president still 100% behind us. >> kevin: but there is tons of work to do. there is a press briefing this afternoon around 3:30 with sarah sanders. we'll have coverage as john roberts steps in. a rally tonight in south carolina for the president. should make for an interesting time. back to you for now. >> melissa: another busy day. kevin corke, thank you. bring in republican congressman joe wilson who is among two dozen lawmakers who
went to the white house last week to hear the president pitch on the immigration legislation. thank you for joining us, sir. where does this stand today? do you feel like republicans will get something done? >> well, melissa, i appreciate the president being so firm. we did meet with him last week. he has been consistent. that is that the border needs to be protected. i'm grateful he is coming to the home community tonight. airport high school where my wife was a teacher. we look forward to his message tonight to back up a great governor, mcmaster. >> melissa: what about the immigration bill? do you think it has a chance to get over the finish line? some suggested if you made it more simple if it was daca for the wall and tried to do things a piece at a time that it might have a better chance of passing. >> actually, i have great faith in the chairman mike mccaul and chairman goodlatte. they are making every effort with the speaker paul ryan. every effort is being made to try to put votes together.
it needs to be addressed. but at the same time i appreciate the president resolve to protect the borders. >> melissa: you want him to stick to what he is saying but if you don't have the votes and fail to get something passed isn't that a huge problem for republicans? it makes it look like they can't govern. >> i think it means we need more republicans. we have seen that with governor mcmaster and attorney general. i'm grateful we worked to block the sanctuary cities. we want people to come to the country as legal immigrants not illegal aliens. >> melissa: but do you think that is a convincing message going in the midterm. we weren't able to get this done. we need more republicans because the ones you haven't aren't good enough. that seems like it's not a great sell to voters. >> what it is, it will be a clear contrast. no democrat voted for anything. it's clear that the
republicans are trying to work on trying to secure the borders and the democrats fully are anticipating masses of the new voters. this has nothing to do with the sympathy for children. what this is, is an effort to bring in new voters to change states around the country. and a positive message to enforce the borders and the president is doing that and the republicans are voting to establish borders to protect american families. >> melissa: if that were the case, wouldn't democrats vote for the bill because they would make more people citizens here through the daca program and the other things in there and that would be more as you say voters for them? >> you are dead right except for one thing. it's not 2 million more voters they are looking for. it's many, many millions more than that. so the sympathy is not there. this is a ruse to bring in new voters. we need to protect our voters to provide legal opportunity for immigration. i'm a former immigration
attorney. we need to enforce the laws we have. >> melissa: let me ask you. we have been talking all morning about sarah sanders asked to leave that restaurant. maxine waters, you know, telling people to really go out and track down the people in their lives. i think back to the incident in 2009 where you said something at the "state of the union," the president obama, you said, "liar" i believe it was. you apologized and he accept and that seems tame by today's standards. people would hardly notice that in this day and age. what do you think about what we are, and who is responsible and how do you change it if it needs to be changed? >> what we have is -- i apologized immediately. it was accepted. i appreciate that. it's particularly harmful to me. i went to school, in lexington virginia. i know the people of that county are wonderful people. this is particularly insulting. you have a combination of the trump derangement syndrome.
they lost the election, they can't get over it. and they have just lost the sense of the bearing. good people need to be involved and stand firm. it's hard to imagine. the republicans and the democrats we do work together substantially in congress. >> melissa: your know they say that the president started it, that he is the one that changed the tone in the election and when he was a candidate. he certainly did campaign unlike anyone else campaigned before. >> actually, again, reflection of trump derangement. they lost the election. they are so bitter. it's so sad to be consumed with bitterness and hatred. sadly we have seen it. but the good news is the vast majority of the americans don't feel that way. >> melissa: congressman wilson, thank you for joining us. >> honor to be with you. >> melissa: for more analysis, bring in james freeman assistant editor of the "wall street journal" edtory page and a fox news contributor. i hardly know where to start at this point.
start with immigration. >> i'm not consumed by bitterness but it's disappointing what seems like an obvious compromise is unlikely where the president gets his wall and you get security and an end to the chaos on the border and on the other hand you allow good working people two built a life in the united states who stay here. it seems very obvious. you can't be continue mystic, though, listening to the -- you can't be optimistic, though, listening to the commentary. >> melissa: there is a ton of pressure. no matter what the republicans say it will prove we need more republicans they have to know if they fail to do anything on immigration it can't help in the midterms. >> i think if they give up trying to solve it this year, they do at least for the political purposes have to clarify and force votes because the democrats will not come on board they at least want to get them on record saying no to wall plus protection for the so-called
dreamers brought here as children. >> melissa: good point. >> if they say no to dreamers to stop trump's wall it shows they are unreasonable. we have fences, we have border. >> melissa: they say it's not as simple as that. there are other things they don't agree to. they don't agree to end chain migration and they don't agree to the merit and all that stuff. >> i think just the wall and the dreamers is the way to put them on the spot. but you raise the issue for the president is the wall was his signature issue. he has made it clear that is his priority. i don't think he should get pulled in to details that aren't critical to a compromise. this is a weird time to say we want to end all type of migration when we have a shrinking workforce right now and the employers saying they can't find workers. >> melissa: let's talk about that. that is an interesting problem. two reasons people come to the order. one their country collapsed and they feel fear for their
lives so they come here seeking basically refugee status. the other is economic opportunity. i mean suspected there a better way to address the economic opportunity if you had visas where the breadwinner comes over, works, take the money back home. there are remedies that make sense we are not using. mainly because of the labor unions, i guess. >> that is right. guest worker program where people didn't feel like they had to take the risk on one shop shot to get this united states. as long as they did it lawfully and come to the right checkpoint they could find work in the u.s. but given the rising american economy acting as a magnet and as you said, the lawlessness in central america -- it's not mexico. it's mainly central america. i don't think the problem will end soon. there are obvious solutions but we may need to wait for 2018 for politics to get around to it. >> melissa: what is the obvious solution? >> i think first of all --
>> melissa: how do you deal with the duel problem? >> this is a totally legitimate effort to say you have to have a respected, credible border. i don't think you need to be a restrictionist to say that is a reasonable goal. but i think we also need to say that immigrants by and large coming in here are here to work. and this network has been reporting fewer than 8% of the dreamers have been arrested. that may sound like a lot and certainly you want to get rid of people who are criminals. but that is actually a low number compared to the general u.s. population. >> melissa: here is jeh johnson talking about one of the other factors we talk about driving people over the boarder to the u.s. listen. >> without a doubt, the images and the reality from 2014 just like 2018 are not pretty. so, we expanded family detention. we believed it was necessary at the time. i still believe it is necessary to a certain capability for the families.
we can't have catch and release. >> melissa: he says we can't have catch and release but it's hard to figure out what is the opposite of that. do you detain families indefinitely? then you send them back? a lot of people don't realize that is at the end of the walk. >> it's a tough issue. i think this is why all the comparisons last week to the trump policy, to nazi, germany and even the u.s. internment of the japanese americans in world war ii are over the top out of bounds. it's a hard problem. you can't have a border where just because you bring a child you get to cross for free and no one will check you out or figure out who you are. so then you get to okay, you are detaining families together. which is now also getting a lot of opposition on the democratic left. if you are saying they will be released in a few days then you essentially have an open border deferred by a few days. i think there are solutions here. we have been talking about
more guest workers, more abilities for the law-abiding people ready to love america and do not present a security threat to come in. but it's hard to find them right now. >> melissa: the homeland security said report to a port of entry. opposed to running over the border. if you have a legitimate claim. then you get in line. >> maybe just advertise more in mexico about places, as people come up from central america, where they can go to apply for ally number. you don't have to go all the way to the border. >> melissa: james freeman, thank you very much. a new deadline from the d.o.j. letter from chairman nunes to the deputy ago rosenstein giving the agency until 5:00 p.m. today to turn over documents on the use of confidential sources to investigate the trump campaign. now president trump weighing in. we have a live report ahead. plus, new report that the trump administration trying to nail down north korea on a promise to denuclearize. we'll have details. let's take a look at some numbers:
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ready to present the regime with a specific timeline on denuclearization. greg palkot is live with this in london. greg? >> greg: hi, melissa. for once the news coming out of north korea is no news. on this date, on june 25, like last year in north korea, there has always been an anti-u.s. rally. they claim that the war which started at that time was the fault of the united states. this year, absolutely nothing. there has been the removal of anti-u.s. billboard and paraphernalia coming from souvenir shops. may be a sign of easing tension post the kim jong un-trump summit. there is word from the prime minister that there are now talks -- this is important -- to remove 1,000 pieces of artillery in north korea, north of the d.m.z. trained on the south. especially in the greater
seoul area. that is 35 million people. this is amid the talk of the more u.s.-south korea joint and the military exercises canceled. in this case involving the u.s. and the south korean marines. we were there last year, last september for some. i can tell you they were aggressive. at the time, we were told very useful for training. again, in the wake of the summit. word coming from a defense official that the u.s. will be putting to north korea what they call specific asks. specific timeline regarding denuclearization. we have seen in the past hour or so pushback from the pentagon. but it is expected that the u.s. officials in coming days will try to get more specifics regarding denuclearization from north korea. there are reports of 100 caskets from the u.s. side of the d.m.z., perhaps a sign that transfer of remains of the u.s. service members lost
in the korean war might come up in a next couple of days. back to you. >> melissa: greg palkot. thank you. for more on this we go to lieutenant colonel daniel davis senior fellow at defensive priority and a former u.s. adviser so the south korean army. thank you for joining us. what do you make of where we are now? >> things are moving in the right direction. and moving moving in a predictae direction. we had trump and mike pompeo before the singapore summit was the clear this is the start of something and a first step. you had the declaration of the moon summit in april and the trump-kim summit. with the expectation that now at the working level those things would continue on now they established what the objectives were. now you are seeing the next step, what you would expect.
>> melissa: general keane said the next step is to outline where the nuclear weapons and anything they would druz to make them or facilitate them as well as the ballistic missiles. just a map of where those things are across the country. how would we know that the list is complete, though? >> that is on the list. i'm not sure that is the next thing. we have a ways to go before we get there. we have need more confidence building measures and they will trust us to get that so when we get that information it's something we can trust. but that will get in the heart of the matter here, it is always possible we don't get a complete list of it. that is one reason trump is wise to focus on deterrent and diplomacy the whole way through. in the case they don't do what they say they will do, our security is never at risk because they have the nuclear military deterrent to convince
kim that is what he is supposed to the and he can get the benefit of that. >> melissa: if he stands firm, you are supposed to build confidence before then how do you do that without softening your firm stance? >> dough don't soften your firm stance. it's con current. back and forth. that is how the negotiations go. we think it will take a long time but we see evidence it's moving in the right direction. not just with the united states. last week you saw moon in russia. they have a $35 billion transsiberian railroad deal to go seoul. you also have developments and the economics with japan, china and south korea to make good economic progress here. everybody making plans for it to succeed. so trump is wise to go on step
by step and never let the deterrent go down. >> melissa: you brought up the idea of russia. you know we have ambassador bolton -- not the ambassador any longer but heading to russia at this point. what do you think of that meeting? is that a good idea. is that how you advance things with putin? >> we have to. secretary pompeo on sunday laid it out well. we'll look for the area of the mutual benefit. we will work with russia when we can but we always stand on our side to make sure anything that doesn't work in the mutual benefit protected for the united states. we wish russia was different but we have to leverage everything to benefit of the united states. it's counterproductive if we said because they're bad we can't talk to them on anything. the administration is moving in the right direction. >> melissa: lieutenant colonel, thank you for joining
us. >> my pleasure. >> melissa: we are hours away from a deadline as the house committee chairman devin nunes is ordering deputy attorney general rod rosenstein to finally turn over the documents related to the launch of the trump-russia probe. so will that happen? what is the d.o.j. saying now? live report with analysis straight ahead. - my family and i did a fundraiser walk
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country are they used to target political campaigns? we need to know the answer. >> melissa: chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> thank you, melissa. the updating records focus on the intelligence activities as well as the alleged use of the confidential human sources prior to july 21, 2016. when the f.b.i. officially opened the russia collusion investigation. a house intelligence committee source told fox news no physical records have been provide and briefing the congressional leadership known as "the gang of quit -- does not satisfy the subpoena. and they said the larger issue is the alleged abuse in the campaign by the f.b.i. and the justice departments. >> when do the investigations start? what did you do with president trump's campaign? why can't you answer that question? what money did you spend on it? why didn't you advise the president when running you had concerns or not or was it derived by another reason? in my belief this is a
fundamental question. >> facebook agent peter strozk who gives a closed door deposition on capitol hill shifted from the clinton e-mail to the russian investigation. he wrote e.c. that opened the probe. the republican chairman of the house judiciary committee who has direct oversight for the f.b.i. spoke to fox about investigating the f.b.i. investigators. >> they are in an unusual situation. it's the federal bureau of investigation, the nation's most important law enforcement investigation that is being investigated. their cooperation to restore the reputation and make sure that this sort of thing doesn't happen again is important. the new director christopher wray gets that. >> the justice department official told fox earlier today the committee's question about the alleged use of controversial sources the number, the money spent was already answered in a previous briefing and the official pointed to the house speaker's
weekend statement about the level of compliance and agreement for more time. though the speaker's statement doesn't specify how much extra time they are getting. >> melissa: catherine herridge, great reporting. thank you. for more on this bring in republican congressman steve russell of the house oversight committee. thank you for joining us. what is your take on where we are and do you think they will comply with the 5:00 p.m. deadline? >> let's hope that they do. we will see, my guess is they will try to find some way to delay it. but this ought to concern all americans. anytime we have our intelligence and investigative agencies even giving the appearance of investigating or planning informants in the elections, we ought to be very, very concerned. so my advice to the f.b.i. would be much like they give to the people they investigate. if they have nothing to hide, hand it over. there shouldn't be any problem. >> melissa: they would say that the mueller investigation is still going on and the
papers are pertinent to that so it doesn't make sense to hand them over or make them public now. why not wait until it's over? >> part of the issue you have here is that many of these allegations and what we are learning were done before the russia probe was even opened by the f.b.i. in 2016. so that becomes problematic. i think at a minimum we ought to have access to many of the things we have asked for. in fact we have always asked when we were in committee with the inspector general horowitz last week about the d.n.i. that was holding up things and redacting things that we would like to see. so we are still waiting on those documents unredacted we could have them in a classified setting. that is fine. but the oversight of government is essential and that includes f.b.i. and intelligence services. >> melissa: you are the oversight body. so if they don't turn over the document what is are you going to do? continuing to change the deadline or giving them more time makes it look like you don't have the teeth to back
up what you are asking for. >> as we have seen, it does take time. in typical fashion, admit nothing, deny everything, make counter accusations and let it stretch out. what we saw in inspector horowitz committee hearing last week was that you can get to the truth. when it comes out, it becomes problematic for these, like peter strozk. and we see page and others. we need to know what they were hiding. and in this case, we need to know where they planning informants in political elections? -- planting informants in the political campaigns? these are thing we need answers to. >> melissa: there was no answer -- in terms of the stuff already handed over, some say it should be satisfactory. what was in all of that and why was it not all good enough? >> some of what we requested was in redacted form or we have asked for certain documents they have chosen to redact. as we learn from the inspector general horowitz, the deciding
agency on that was the director of the national intelligence. okay. i held a top secret s.c.i. security clearance when i was a warrior most of my adult life. there are members of congress that know how to keep secrets. we have your house intelligence and the senate intelligence committees. they are sworn to things that most of us never see. get to the bottom of that. if there is something sensitive it doesn't mean you keep it from congress. we, the people, govern ourselves by concept. the government draws power from the people. that does not give the agencies the ability to play i've got a secret from members of congress. that is not how it works. >> melissa: congressman russell, thank you. >> thank you. >> melissa: for more insight bring in judge andrew napolitano, fox news senior judicial anwyl -- analyst. that is the question. were they investigating the president before?
how do we get the answer? >> part of the problem is mixture of the law enforcement. before 9/11 the f.b.i. did law enforcement and the n.s.a. did intelligence in the u.s. c.i.a. did intelligence outside the u.s. now it's a mixture. so now the f.b.i. by now i mean after 9/11 will use intelligence tools, which are easy to acquire and easier to use than law enforcement tools for law enforcement. so even though these people, congressman nunes and his colleagues are on intelligence committee they are looking for the law enforcement documents used to commence the investigation. what can't they get? well, the law says they can't get. they can't get documents to evidence what was given to a grand jury. that is very clear. they can't get documents that evidence impressions and thoughts and strategies of f.b.i. agents and federal prosecutors. they can't get documents that were generated by confidential sources. that is about two-third of
what they are looking for. so they can't ask for it until the cows come home, they are not going to get it. when push comes to shove -- >> melissa: that is not the answer we usually hear. we can't find it or the dog ate it. >> i wish the f.b.i. were more candid and say why? when christopher wray, when director wray testified before the senate two weeks ago, along with inspector general horowitz he did say here are the three categories that are privileged so we'll follow the law. follow the privilege. when they are at an impasse, there is a way to resolve the impasse. send the subpoena to a federal judge. the federal judge will say give me the documents. i'll look at them. i'll decide what is in the privileged categories and stays and what congress -- congress is allowed to see. >> melissa: why haven't they done that? >> i honestly think they are trying to work it out. you can tell from congressman russell and chairman nunes, they have had it. they keep extending the deadlines, as you pointed out
in the question it makes them look weak they keep doing that. so they should serve a subpoena, which is a lot of obligation on the f.b.i. the f.b.i. must comply with it precisely or the f.b.i. d.o.j. must take it to a federal judge and challenge it. then the federal judge says give me the documents and i'll look at them. >> melissa: i thought they already subpoenaed documents? they are just requesting them? >> yes. yes. the subpoena triggers deadlines and obligations that you must comply with under penalty of law. the request allows you all this fudging and the compromising and changing. >> melissa: so you think the reason they haven't done that, they have a hope it will work out? that is the nuclear option they don't want to quite go there? >> the reason they haven't subpoenaed it, yes. >> melissa: yes. >> the reason the f.b.i. hasn't complied with it, this is an ongoing criminal investigation. the f.b.i. fears that if you give robert mueller's documents to this committee they will end up in the white house where the potential defendant resides. >> melissa: so they should perhaps as democrats keep saying just wait until the
mueller probe is over? >> ah. i don't know if they have the patience, melissa. but when the mueller probe is over that issues a report that recommends indictment, impeachment or total exoneration then we will know how it started. but that is not going to be tomorrow. >> melissa: but by definition it has to be in that report? we will know the answer to that question was there a source inside the trump campaign before the start? >> we don't know if it will be in the report. if the source is confidential, a living human being we may never know because they have promised confidential to -- confidentty to that person and they can't break the promise. >> melissa: i want to know. >> me, too! >> melissa: thank you for clearing it up for us. appreciate it. >> always pleasure. >> melissa: president trump toughens the rhetoric today and how it will play with the voters. the power panel weighs in.
>> melissa: fox news alert. the immigration debate intensifying as president trump heads to south korea for a rally where he is likely to make immigration a central focus. this as potential 2020 hopeful democratic senator kamala harris goes farther than she has before in criticism of the u.s. immigration policy suggesting abolition and rebuilding of i.c.e. >> i think there is no question we have to critically re-examine i.c.e. and the role it's administered and we should think of starting from scratch. there is a lot wrong with the way it's conducting itself. we need to deal with that. >> melissa: time for the power panel. back from the "outnumbered" couch, fox news contributor tarlov. and noelle.
jessica, i know you couldn't hear that. >> i have heard it before. >> melissa: okay. what do you think about that? that is dramatic to say ice has to taken apart rebuild from the ground up. >> it's dramatic and i don't think it's politically smart. both have acknowledged the crisis we have. immigration is an issue that is tricky for the democrats, especially a democrat from a state like california which has different attitude for us than necessarily more conservative state. or different place on the border. the reform aspect is sound and we should talk about how we can do that. but the ablix of i.c.e. writes the g.o.p. ads for the midterm. not only do they want open border they don't want anyone standing around to greet anyone across the border. >> to me this is the political
posturing for her. she is seizing an opportunity to elevate her political presence. there is a rumor that she is looking to 2020. this could be something she wants to attach herself to. something i notice with a lot of politicians, the burden of the democrat is she slings out maybe redoing it or scrapping it and starting from scratch. why don't they ever go further? what does that entail? what does it look like? why take to us gate and leave it and let us figure it out. that is something i don't like. you talk about the policies and doing away with the i.c.e. or restructuring that and that, the policy. is what your solution? go the extra step. go out on a limb. tell us what the policy would be. >> if she was running on this,
there would be a plan. it would be laid out for us. at this point, the difficulty is what the i.c.e. official is carrying out is the policies that the administration demand ed. the i.c.e. are doing their job but in a democrat administration it would be different. >> go ahead and enlighten us on how you want to make the changes and what you want to do to restrict it. >> melissa: then you go to the idea there are no clean or pretty solutions. we're getting information that they will be housing the families potentially on the military bases. is that palatable? >> it's better than separated. >> we are playing the clips all day from jeh johnson. catch and release is not an
option. we won't do that. we need a detention plan and what president trump trying to do is what president obama wanted to do but stepped in and wouldn't allow him to do. but i think if families can be kept together which is obviously better than being separate and they can be somewhere safe where there are journalists coming in and out reporting on the conditions of the fail is i thes on a military base, i don't know why it would be a problem. >> military base, they have beds, which was a problem. they also have great security. if it's good enough for the military it's good enough for those at the border. >> melissa: great point. devin nunes setting a deadline of 5:00 p.m. today for the justice department to turn over the documents on the house russia probe. and house judiciary chair bob goodlatte looking to grill rod rosenstein. our power panel stays here to weigh in on the showdown.
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pounce? plus the president doubles down on his push to stop illegal immigration. all that coming up on the "the daily briefing." >> melissa: fox news alert. pressure is building on rod rosenstein as house intelligence chairman devin nunes sets a 5:00 p.m. deadline of friday for the justice department and the f.b.i. to turn over documents on the investigation into the trump campaign. house judiciary chairman bob goodlatte yesterday saying he is working to have rosenstein appear before his committee. we are back with our power panel. jessica tarlov and noelle nikpour. why not wait until the mueller probe is over? then you can have everything. >> we need it now. >> melissa: why? >> we need it now. this has gone on long enough. they have been demanding and they haven't gotten it. why haven't they gotten it? >> they have gotten a ton. >> but they haven't been everything they asked for. >> the judge was just on and we talk about it on the couch. there are restrictions per the documents that went for the grand jury. those are under seal.
i agree nothing should be slow rolled and i know we'll get sea of red.c. you could get the -- sea of red.c. so you could get them and then they hold back much. >> is there the intelligence for the campaign before july 31? did you start before july 31? that is a straightforward, there is very specific documents related to that. it looks like people were in place. so why not answer the question? there is only reason they wouldn't answer it. >> get on with it. >> i thought rod rosenstein indicated he had answered that question. >> melissa: he has not. >> flat out no on that? >> melissa: no. so why not answer the question? why not give documents related to it. that is the piece they are after. then republicans wouldn't have anything to squawk about. >> there is always something to squawk about on both sides. that is inevitable. i agree with you. there has been a sea change. when the story came out there was an informant or a spy as the president says placed in the campaign. there was a few days to the
brouhaha and then the republicans came out like marco rubio andd see nothing wrong with the practice of what went on here. if they did nothing wrong, everybody is under massive scrutiny and for good reason, especially in light of the i.g. results. if you can air these things and reveal more information about the things that you did not do wrong when the public perception might be you did and the president is tweeting that you did wrong, i think that could help them substantially. >> melissa: but they don't so that begs the question, noelle, they don't come out to clear their name so it makes you feel they are hiding something. every time, to be fair, every time we get more documents we learn something new that is really embarrassing for the f.b.i. and the d.o.j. >> that's the point. that is what they are trying -- they can't have another smear campaign against the f.b.i. you are right and right on target with that. because every time they dribble pieces out there is something bad on the f.b.i. so i can see why they have the hesitation. we need to get on with it.
>> last word. >> i don't agree that it is that bad. and it's that corrupt. there are people in there who act improperly and they have been removed from the roles but generally speaking we can be in agreement the people who work in the institutions are good americans who did the job properly. there must be some better reason than they don't want to be embarrassed. it's not -- >> melissa: i don't know. you have had so many people fired and the stuff that has come out. save it for another day. thank you both of you. we are awaiting the arival of the king of jordan at the white house. when that happens we will go there live. man: i got scar tissue there.
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>> i'm melissa francis in for harris. you can catch me at 4:00 for the markets close at 4:00. meantime, here's dana perino. >> dana: fox news alert. president trump and the first lady are about to welcome the king and queen of jordan to the white house. we'll have that live. hello. i'm dana perino. this is "the daily briefing." >> king abdullah could make a last minute pitch to influence a peace plan that the white house is expected to announce in a few weeks. there's lots for those two leaders to discuss, not just the palestinians but the refugees that he's hosting in his country. >> yeah, a whole wrath of discussions and issues to be gone over in this meeting that the president will have in about 15 minutes there or the south portico when the