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with my partner in crime. until then, have a wonderful weekend, fly your flag, hang out with your family and friends. up next, shannon bream. good night from chicago. ♪ >> shannon: this is a fox news alert, democrats go to extremes with one talking about not just abolishing ice but also punishing i.c.e. agents for doing their jobs. another compares the president to usama bin laden. how much further will they go to stir up debate with two months to go until the midterms? were looking at the seat left open by rhonda sanchez, we got the democrats and republican vying for his house eat there both here tonight. both with deep foreign policy roots. and as hollywood celebrities gear up for the midterms by spending big bucks, a new movie starring canadian actor ryan gosling intentionally leaves out
the iconic moment when the american flag was planted on the moon. it stirred up a debate over whether the moon landing was an american achievement or a broader achievement for all mankind. welcome to "fox news @ nigbt," i'm shannon bream in washington. if we begin with another escalation with the media, a week of comments for the president insists were off the record rocking high-pressure situations. per our twitter feed there still coming into night. >> moved to the markets and seemingly upended days of trade talks between canada and the u.s. president trump confirmed to them on twitter and in north carolina. >> president trump: at least canada knows how i feel, so it's fine. >> an event meant to focused on the signing of an executive order related to retirement plans.
>> president trump: its head off the record, it's unbelievable what's happening with the fake news. when you say off the record, that's a very -- it's not a legal term but it's a term of honor. >> according to the toronto star newspaper, president trump told bloomberg news he is not compromising with canada when it comes to nafta talks and any deal would be totally on our terms. the president reported if i say no you're going to put that and it's going to be so insulting they're not going to be able to make a deal. on twitter, president trump accused bloomberg of dishonest reporting and blatantly violating an off the record agreement. a spokesperson told fox news when we agree that something is off the record, we respect that. the toronto star as a journalist tweeted he won't be commenting on the source of the leak quote. official states the deadline to reach a nafta deal is today. the president notified the congress of his intent to sign a trade agreement with mexico and
canada if it is willing, 90 days from now. but for now if there is no deal with canada. >> we are going to continue working at it. >> there are reportedly a number of issues to resolve from dairy tariffs to steel and aluminum tariffs to a contentious sunset clause although mexicans trade representative said the u.s. softened its stance on that -- to the pharmaceutical industry that requires at least ten years of data protection. >> were not going to negotiate a public, the government of canada will not sign an agreement unless it's good for canada and good for canadians. >> canada and the usa the talks will start again on wednesday. 20 minutes ago president trump tweeted asking if they will apologize. >> shannon: thank you very much. socialist bernie sanders endorsed progressive sensation andrew guillemot stumping tonight fresh off his stunning surprised victory in democratic
primary in florida's gubernatorial race. pushing for big spending in florida legalizing pot, abolishing ice and impeaching the president. he also welcomes the fbi investigation into alleged city hall corruption while he was in tallahassee mayor. we've been talking all week about how florida is turning into ground zero between the far left and the president's supporters. trace gallagher joins us as we zero in on midterms. >> illinois democratic congressional nominees sean kasten's words are back to haunt him. in february he was talking to voters about school safety and how gun control opponents are similar to islamic terrorists. he made this analogy. >> trump and usama bin laden have tremendous amount in common because they both figured out how to use the bully pulpit to activate marginalized -- you give them something to do. >> at the campaign tried to walk
it back saying his words were poorly chosen and he regrets them. the campaign then criticized donald trump for dividing americans. tallahassee democratic mayor andrew guillemot now face off against g.o.p. congressmen ron desantis and the governor's race. he is supported by president trump. he thinks trump should be impeached. >> i absolutely do, he's already incriminated himself by interfering with the department of justice, firing jim comey of whom i'm no fan of but basically obstructing justice. ever since that time, he has only driven deeper, down a pretty dark hole not only for himself but for this country. >> trump responded calling him a field socialist saying he is a dream opponent. several democrats suggested abolishing immigrations and customs enforcement. arizona congressman took it further threatening i.c.e. agents who carried out
deportations. "if you are a u.s. government official and you are deporting americans, be warned. you will not be safe because you were just following orders. you do not have to take part in illegal acts ordered by this president's administration. critics point out that i.c.e. agents are not in the business of deporting americans. new york gubernatorial candidate cynthia nixon says increasing taxes on new york's wealthiest residents and corporations will not push them out of the state telling msnbc that if high taxes compelled rich people to move, there wouldn't be so many wealthy people in new york or california. nixon went on to tout new york's business friendly environment. >> shannon: thank you very much. republican candidates are still welcoming president trump's help, he spent the afternoon fund-raising for two north carolina republicans and their congressional races. the president's influence come at a time where his poll numbers are upside down, including high unfavorable ratings with
independence. on the other hand as we just heard, democrats are pushing hard to the left. calling to abolish ice or even criminally punished i.c.e. agents for doing their job. some are also pushing talk of impeachment. we want to focus on florida's sixth district vacated by republican ron desantis, now the g.o.p. nominee for governor. a former clinton administration official is facing mike walt's a former green bay green barre c. soderberg is touting her national security experience, welcome to "fox news @ nigbt" ." both you and mike have a background in the national security apparatus. can we talk about china and russia, the fact that they are teaming up for a enormous war games, the fact that china is pushing back on the u.s. on a number of issues from tariffs to north korea. what do you make of our relationship with them?
>> i've sat next to the russians and the chinese in the u.n. security council, they are both adversaries and ones that we need to stand up to. first and foremost russia has become an increasing regional threat and if china is increasingly a competitor taking over the south china sea islands and we need a strong congress to stand up to them and make sure that america's interests are protected there and congress will do just that. >> shannon: what about north korea? it's something that has plagued administration after administration not finding a resolution as they continue to ramp up their nuclear program. the glad-handing and shaking of hands, it appears by every account they're not slowing down their program. the fact they are getting help with places allegedly like china and russia, what do you make of that? >> north korea is one of the most frustrating problems any president faces.
i was that white house deputy national security advisor during the deals in the 90s. they make a deal and cheat and they make a deal and cheat and they cannot be trusted. in their case you have to not trust and verify any agreement. so far they have not fulfilled any commitment or that they have made to the president, their nuclear program continues, we need to keep tough on them, keep sanctions on and make sure we do not face a nuclear armed north korea with ballistic missiles. >> shannon: were going to talk to mike next but i feel like the first two answers are what he would say. are you a bit hawkish on these national -- foreign policy issues or how would you describe yourself when it comes to matters of defense and foreign policy? >> i've spent my life defending our values keeping this country safe and i will do that in congress. we need to make sure america's interests are protected against our enemies, we have a strong military -- but we have a country that's true to our values as well.
that's the kind of leader i will be in congress. >> shannon: there's a lot of disagreement in the democratic party about how far left various candidates are willing to go -- i want to review something from democrat nominee in illinois sixth district, sean kasten. trump and usama bin laden have a tremendous amount in common because they both figure out how to use the bully pulpit to activate marginalized young men. you are part of a team that advised going after bin laden years and years ago, what do you make -- is it appropriate to you to have equivocation between our current president and usama bin laden? >> i do not, i was one of the first in the white house when he was coming up to say let's get this guy. make sure we get him as a threat and keep this country safe. i brought the catholics and protestants together to try to bring warring parties together and that's the kind of member of congress i'll be to make sure we
defend america's interests, make sure we defend the united states at every step. that means keeping our values at home as well, that's the kind of relationship we need about american values in congress. >> shannon: argue for abolishing ice? >> i've defended our borders as a national security official and defended our constitution and we need to make sure we keep this country safe but in a way that doesn't rip kids from their families? >> shannon: abolishing the agency. >> we need to reform ice, make sure it protects the country, goes back to the drug dealers. we don't need to abolish it. >> shannon: impeachment, yes or no. >> i'm sorry? >> shannon: impeachment? >> it's a serious problem, it's
when i would take seriously in congress. it's one of the most serious issues one would take up in congress and i would absolutely wait until we see the facts from the mueller investigation and to see whether the facts that are in that report would justify such a serious decision. but i'll wait for the facts. >> shannon: nancy soderberg great to have you with us tonight. now for the other side, president trump's disapproval rating is at an all-time high at least according to a new washington post abc poll. 60% of americans say they disapprove of the president's job performance and from the same poll, nearly half of americans 49% say he should be impeached. that could lead to him being removed from office. 46% say congress should not move forward with impeachment. keeping our focused on florida's sixth congressional district. he says he would welcome a campaign rally with the president. i have to say the president tweeted just a short time ago about that poll he said abc
"washington post" poll is by far the least accurate 12 weeks out from the 2016 election, i collect a suppression poll but by election day they brought us out of shame to about even. they will never learn. what do you make of this latest bowling? >> my team and i knocked tens of thousands of doors across north florida. there are people, republicans there may not like sometimes the president's demeanor or what he says but they love what he's doing. what's not to like? the economy is booming, were standing up to our adversaries, were holding our allies accountable, tax reform, deregulation, their lives are better. washington is so focused on things like omarosa or the rhetoric of the day, there focused on the lives, their lives are better, their scene their 401(k) boom. this midterm is a choice about which america do we want to, do we want to move this economy and
move america forward? i hear my opponent nancy soderberg saying what she is for and against but as a junior member, she's going to be voting to impeach the president. she's going to be voting to repeal the tax cut, she's going to be voting to move us toward socialism and or open borders and abolishing ice. the dems are clear what they want to go. >> shannon: let me read you something. trump's scandal followed hands of her midterms several republican consultants professed fear, coupled with the constant drumbeat of negative stories and scandals have the potential to turn off key constituencies especially suburban women and threatened to curb overall g.o.p. voter enthusiasm in the fall. though suburban moms are people that you need. >> in my district alone, we had 77,000 republicans turn out compared to 58,000 democrats. you have roughly the same in
terms of registration, 30% compared to 25%. this notion of a blue wave, it's more like a blue ripple. >> shannon: will they come back in the fall? >> absolutely, they're fired up about rick scott versus nelson, their fired up about ron desantis, there fired up about which choice the american is going to go. conservative values, defending our country, standing up to allies, securing our border, booming our economy or are we going to move backwards to the error of obama and clinton. >> shannon: we had a lot of pulling on this recently. with election day at just two months away, more 2016 hillary clinton voters either clinton or trump voters are extremely interested in the midterms in the trump voters. they are also more enthusiastic about casting a ballot and more certain they will show up and
vote 76 to 67% how do you close that gap? >> shannon: in florida, we're not seeing it. wonders of thousands of doors we have knocked on and their lives are moving forward, their lives are moving better. they're moving in the right direction. there was a great reaction, one of the things we focused on was getting more combat veterans in congress like myself, i've been endorsed by a national organization that is supporting both sides, bipartisan kick to get more combat vets because they know in the foxhole nobody cares about race, religion, economic background, even party -- it's about the mission, it's about america and that's the ito's we want to bring. i can disagree with democrats all day long but we have the commonality putting our lives on the line for this country, were going to have a beer tonight and move the country forward. this stat really moved me to run for this race. in the 80s we peaked 85%.
now or at a record low of 15. i think that makes a big difference. we lost another one in john mccain. i think the commonality of services what we're missing. that's what my campaign is all about and that's what fired people love to come out to the polls. >> shannon: we thank you for the service and many combat tours of duty for you. we will watch this race with you and your opponent, she sounds like she is a centrist or at least her talking points are very much like what we heard from you tonight. >> they may be but as a junior member and as a nancy pelosi led conference, we know the direction they're going to go and that's a choice in front of us. >> shannon: despite media chatter over the past 48 hours, the special counsel robert mueller's office can take major action. were learning more tonight about the activities of justice department official bruce or in connection with the infamous trump dossier and one of
mueller's top investigators is here with the story. good evening, catherine. >> two sources with direct knowledge of the matter tell fox news that justice department official bruce bruce ohr in thp about the controversial dossier in the individuals behind it. during a closed-door deposition, the sources say >> president trump: team told investigators the contact with wiseman and senior fbi officials occurred before and after the november 2016 election. it's more than two decades of government service, he told investigators he had never handled evidence this way before nd contacts indicate senior fbi leadership, wiseman and two senior justice department officials knew about ohr's back channel contact end of the dossier. at the time he ran the criminal fraud division. on the fbi side, his contacts
included former agent peter strzok who was recently fired over his anti-trump texts. in the lisa page was also left the bureau. former fbi director andrew mccabe who was fired over allegations he lied to agents as well as -- republicans in the house one of the president to declassify records about ohr and eight surveillance warrant. if the president said the fbi and justice department need to do more. >> president trump: our justice department and our fbi have to start doing their job and doing it right into doing it now. because people are angry. people are angry. what's happening is a disgrace. and at some point i wanted to stay out but if it doesn't straighten out properly, i want
them to do their job. i will get involved and i will get in there if i have to. it's disgraceful. >> house democrats say they focus on ohr is being mischaracterized by republicans and his outreach on behalf of christopher steele is not uninhibited or unlawful. >> shannon: will follow that story. when we return a new report suggests innocent americans living along the border are suddenly losing their passports for a concrete reason but there's a whole lot more from that story. were separating fact from fiction. plus i do hollywood movie about an iconic moment in american history is about to open in theaters but it's missing an important part of the story and it involved the american flag, nextet.
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>> shannon: once again a media firestorm brewing over trump administration efforts to curtail illegal immigration. now it's over birth certificates and a raging debate of how many are real or forged. casey stegall is in dallas tonight looking into it for us. >> fraud, that is what the u.s. state department is behind taking a closer look at the birth documents, a growing number of immigration lawyers across south texas say that they
are seeing a big spike in the number of cases people reaching out saying their u.s. passports have been called into question despite having a u.s. birth certificate and classified as a u.s. citizen their whole lives. >> i don't think they have changed their policies. obviously there has been a change. it's hard to tell. how can you issue one the first time without a problem and the second time when they go to red newcomen others a problem. >> the numbers are tough to gauge because the u.s. state department does not release statistics on passport fraud cases for security reason reasons. there are reports of some people being stuck in mexico, their passports allegedly revoked when trying to reenter the u.s. even some cases of people being detained at immigration detention centers. however, the u.s. state department is pushing back on many of those reports saying fraudulent birth documents were once prevalent in certain border
communities along the texas mexico line and along certain midwives and doctors. the feds claim they are double checking the authenticity. in a statement, heather knauer a spokesperson for the state department says "this is an irresponsible attempts to create a division and instilled fear among american citizens. while attempting to inflame tensions over immigration. under the trump administration, domestic passport denials for midwife cases are at a six year low. "meanwhile attorneys for the aclu now say they are looking at legal options, they just celebrated a recent victory successfully suing and halting the separation of immigrant children from their families this past summer along the border. >> shannon: casey stegall in dallas. for more let's bring in our fox news contributor richard fowler and vince bolognese.
we'll start with you, richard. you saw a little bit about what heather nauert had to say, she went on to say under the trump administration domestic passport denials for midwife cases are at a six year low. the reporting it as a political cheap shot, they put the numbers out and it appears as a drop-off on these denials under the first two years. >> this has been an ongoing issue but let's be real here, i don't care if the number is one or 300, if you are a u.s. citizen born in this country and a lot of these border cities don't have access to health care don't have access to hospitals which is why midwife thing is the way to go -- to block american citizens -- >> shannon: i don't think they're blocking american citizen, they're questioning. >> what's happening in some of the cases that i've read about and seen, it's we're not sure if you're a citizen, but no i lived here my whole life, this shouldn't happen and it only seems to happen to one group of people. >> what if you're not in u.s.
citizen and you have don't have abortion domestic forged birth certificate was marked as the question they're assessing. these midwives, they're giving forged, they weren't born in this country. they were giving them two babies who were not eligible to be citizens. >> let me stop you right there, let's talk about what happening on the ground. people who are american citizens every right to be here come up but because they happen to be hispanic, their passports. >> shannon: i don't think it's because her hispanic. we don't want american citizens being kicked out of the country regardless of race or background. were on the same page. >> they've already identified as having forged birth certificates in the past. >> shannon: you would want it for a case -- we look back at some reporting in bc years ago other groups have reported about this. there was a study in the 90s there was an ins investigation
that found 900 fake documents in the first sweep of these midwives, they're getting paid up to $5,000 for fake documents. no one wants to kick out a legitimate citizen. >> i think this is another case where we have reporting built specifically to make it look like the trump administration is being able. >> i have been very clear to say it's been in both administration. the argument i'm making is that no citizen should be stopped at the border. >> shannon: let's get to topic two. i want to ask about this new movie coming about neil armstrong and they made the decision not to include the moment the american flag was pink on the moon. one of the most extreme array compliments not only in american history but in human history. >> total lunacy and eight service at the time when people need reminders what we can achieve when we were together. the american people paid for that mission and carrying american astronauts, it wasn't a u.n. mission. >> a couple things on this. i got a chance to read the
statement from his son who watch the movie, they were part of creating the movie, they worked with the director and the screenwriter and they talk about there are depictions of the american flag in the movie. it's one of those moments where i say to myself let's press the pause button, everybody completing about this movie, none of them of seen it. >> shannon: it looks pretty good. >> the neil armstrong landing on the moon footage there's 2 minutes worth watching. it's when he first steps on the moon and what he plans the american flag. >> is not a movie about flint in the american flag it's a movie about neil armstrong. >> shannon: even in the actor ryan gosling whose canadian is more of a human achievement. >> his canadian, he doesn't have a stake in this. >> if his sons aren't upset about this movie, why is everyone is outraged? >> it would be like watching the movie miracle and not game-winning goal. >> shannon: richard and vince
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>> on this one he and i am going to have to respectfully disagree with my friend senator blumenthal. people can disagree in a democracy. >> shannon: he joins me now to weigh in on what could be a key issue, thanks for joining us tonight. >> happy to do it. >> and obviously this is something you and the courts are fighting about all the time. your view of where he stands on these issues. >> i think we have to start with how incredibly gifted he is. he's an excellent jurist. if he is fair-minded, committed to the constitution -- he's written over 300 opinions and he's well respected on the left and the right as the highest level of competency and professionalism. the american bar association which leans heavily left not
only gave him the highest rating but it was a unanimous vote. i think that tells you a lot of why the arguments against him are so weak. in the religious liberty area as a guy who focuses on first amendment religious liberty, i really like him because his opinions are so well-thought-out. they're written well, they are excellent on those first amendment principles and i also just happened to almost 20 years ago, brett kavanaugh the lawyer donated his time on the case that jay sekulow and i were working on for religious freedom. i know he's a guy with a heart for constitution and religious freedom as well. you add all that competency, excellence and a heart for the constitution and the first amendment. >> shannon: first i want to ask you quickly about this. he says may be the most frightening, kavanaugh appears
receptive to those who would distort religious freedom as an excuse to harm others especially women. lgbtq people and religious minorities. religious freedom means the right to believe or not as you see fit but it has never met the right to use your religion as an excuse to discriminate against other people and their warning that may be kavanaugh. >> those attacks are based upon nothingness. there is no proof of that, there is no evidence, there is no writing, there's no opinion and they've got over 300 opinions to pick from. what you see is judge kavanaugh as a person who believes in every individual, every citizen's right to hold to their own religious beliefs whatever those are. he believes in the freedom of every individual, the protecting the pledge case -- she's done an excellent job on the opinions and i don't think there's any basis for criticism. >> shannon: i want to make sure we get to this case you have, the war memorial called the bladensburg cross outside of
d.c. was something that was erected back in the 1920s originally as a memorial to all fallen soldiers of world war i. there have been fights to take it down. it's now on appeal to the supreme court, you can know whether they're going to take up the case. where are we in this? >> this is why it's so important we get another justice on the court and have excellent justices. this veterans memorial was put up almost 100 years ago not only by the american legion but by mothers who lost their sons in world war i and there's now a decision by the fourth circuit federal court of appeals that this is unconstitutional and were talking about bulldozing a national veterans memorial. that would be bad enough because of the precedent that would set for veterans memorial's across the country but also within the fourth circuit as you know, is arlington national cemetery. if this is not overturned the supreme court, they're going to have to go into arlington and tear down the large freestanding crosses like the cross of
sacrifice and argon cross and most people think they can't imagine that. everybody's watching this case at the supreme court in the next month or so were going to find out what happens. the one they have a conference vote in private september 24th i believe. >> let me tell you, i didn't mention it but if anybody wants to look at the memorial, look at for yourself. all the information is there for people to see. >> shannon: will see you next week at the hearings. up next, in maine families and small towns without schools of their own get state funding to send their kids for that she was. unless that happens to have any religious connection, is it legal? you are the jury, night court is next. i can breathe again! vicks sinex... breathe on.
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families are challenging a state law that restricts families in town with to send their kids fm religious schools. the state work-study program is being challenged, it allows college students to they can work for any employer bliss is connected to a religious group. gentlemen, welcome to you both. >> thank you for having me. in this main case were talking about the little towns that have no schools of their own and were parents get public dollars so they can send kids to public or private school of their choice but they can't do it if the school has any religious affiliation. why is that okay? >> it's okay because we have separation of church and state. if people wanted to send their child to a public school or a private school that did not have religious affiliation, that would be okay because we have to
draw a line between government and religion. we don't want the government telling us what to do with our religion, we don't want the government politicizing our churches so now the schools that are church affiliated should not get any funding and that's a very fair statement. of course people who are in towns who don't have schools that is one of their arguments, however i live in alabama, it's easy for people to get from one town to another if they really want to go to school. >> shannon: we know in 1980 it stems from a legal opinion by means attorney general saying that this money is unconstitutional to use any of it for a religious school. we know the group is challenging of it lost similar cases in 1997 and 2002 why would this be any different this time around? >> the supreme court really nailed this issue. i think we need to be careful, the separation of church and state does not allow for the government to be hostile towards
religion. the legal requirement under the constitution is for neutrality. here you have parents being told you can choose any school except a religious school. that is a stigmatism, that would be like saying you can select any school as long as it's based on race or other criteria. that is constitutionally repugnant. this type of discrimination needs to be stopped and that's what these types of lawsuits are building on. to wash up and follow your faith and for these parents to be treated fairly under the law and the constitution. >> shannon: they've lost this case twice before but we'll see what happens in 2018. i want to touch this issue, this work-study program, it says thi this. it says the following types of employers may not be eligible to participate. any church or entity that has a direct association with a controlling sectarian -- church
sponsored day care centers or institutions however religiously affiliated hospitals may be allowed to participate if certain conditions are met. is this the same argument for you? >> it's a very similar argument. hospitals are a different category, thus providing health care and saving people's lives. educationally, that is a separate category that we want protections from us being told -- not being told by the government where we can worship and what religion we need to be a part of. we don't want our public dollars going toward any type of religion and that is why it is very important to make sure their separate. some people are arguing that this work-study program is unconstitutional -- however we must keep them separated in order to have that neutrality that the u.s. wants. >> having no religion is a religion, it's hostility towards religion. our constitution doesn't allow
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