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>> you can hear it there, the fury of florence, an epic and deadly storm. triggering massive floods. hello, i'm trace gallagher. we continue with our live coverage of florence, now a tropical storm with winds barely exceeding 70 miles per hour. but the stiletto fa threat is sm over. by the end of tonight, tropical storm florence could be a tropical depression. that is little comfort to those in north carolina, florence's
slow march inland promises to bring days of catastrophic flooding. victims, rescues, homes destroyed. forecasters predict they will get a year's work of rain before this is over. >> it was scary. those hundred something miles per hour gusts was frightening to watch. i think this street had some of the worst damage i have seen in wilmington so far. >> we have been monitoring the storm for days and days now. you never seen a could the 1 do this much damage. >> it's been so slow, it's allowed the rain to fall and fallment you mentioned that 2:0. the winds dropped.
if you are in that 60 miles per hour wind, you have been there for so many hours. it continues to linger as the storm is moving 3 miles per hour. it made landfall just outside of wilmington. there's the center of circulation. it's been a slow mover. only moved about 90 miles from yesterday morning. but very, very slow moving storm system. and that's what's allowed just round after round of rain, continue to drop that heavy rain. we continue to see these numbers climb to levels you typically don't see with a normal hurricane making its way on to landfall. some spots getting up to 20 inches of total rainfall. it's not done yet. rain still falling heavy in some of these locations. i expect these numbers to climb. this is your forecasted
additional. not what we have already seen, but from right now continuing on. areas getting up to another 15 to 20 inches in some spots. that's going to stretch into south carolina, myrtle beach area. here are the winds, they did get up to triple digits in some locations. we are now looking at the winds at 50 miles per hour. they have been at 50 miles per hour for 24 hours. it lingers slow tonight tomorrow morning. by late saturday, you see it begin to take off and it will be clearing out. that's not the total story. the river waters are going to continue to climb from monday into tuesday and wednesday. even though the rain will likely finish by the enof the weekend, that water is still going to be draining out through these rivers for the next several days. that will cause problems for folks into the middle of next
week. >> it wants to go back into the ocean. thank you. for days forecasters have been warning us about the power of florence, wrightsville beach, north carolina, one of the communities facing the wrath of this storm. wrightsville is where hurricane florence landed with 90 miles per hour winds. how does wrightsville beach seem to be holding up to you? >> good morning, trace. these roofing tiles are an example of the minor damages that we are seeing as we look around a small section of the island here. some tree branches down. so the issue here is not so much the heavy winds, but these incestant rains impacting the entire state and expected to cause flash flooding. here in wrightsville beach, the power is still out. you can see me because we are using battery power for our
lights. as you pan away, it's pitch black in every other section of the island which makes it dangerous to go out. police are not allowing evacuees on to the island. they are strictly enforcing a curfew. there is no running water on the island. the city shut down the public water system so it wouldn't suffer any more damage in the storm. so conditions right now are he can streamly primitive. any electricity you have to bring in yourself. any water, you have to bring in yourself. elsewhere throughout the state, authorities have confirmed at least three storm-related fatalities in wilmington, nearby wilmington, a mother and herb infant killed when a tree fell on their home. further inland in the town of kingston, two men in their late 70s died, one electrocuted trying to connect extension cords and another died when
heavy winds knocked him down. here on the island most people heeded the evacuations. it is a ghost town, no reports of any injuries or fatalities here in wrightsville beach. >> jonathan, you lived in the south for a long time. what's your sense of how this was handled from top to bottom, from the evacuation orders, people heeding them, the officials, first responders, seems like some good work was done out there. >> yeah. for many states and many communities, this was the largest hurricane response in history. people from officials right down to everyday citizens took this very seriously. when we were at the stores watching people stocking up, battening down the hatches, people took this storm much more seriously than other storms than we have seen in the past. i think that state officials,
both in north carolina, south carolina, but even some of the ancillary states, georgia not immediately impacted by the storm, took it seriously. virginia, state officials communicating the potential threats to everyday citizens and telling them exactly what they needed to do to take precalls. i think this part of the country was very prepared for this storm. >> it sure appears that way. jonathan, thank you. tropical storm florence dumping huge amounts of rain on secs of north carolina. the national weather service reports morehead city getsing more than 23 inches over that period. that's where griff jenkins is standing by. still coming down? >> finally, after more than 30 hours, florence has continued her fire hose off. it's pitch black.
everywhere you drive along highway 70, it goes up to the city of raleigh, you just see trees ripped out by their roots, store fronts destroyed, a gas station collapsed, power lines down everywhere in small sections of flooding over in atlantic beach. morehead city is on the coast. it's pitch black over there except for one condo building, looks like it may have auxillary lights on. the fire chief is trying to get a handle on everything. the pier is broken in half. it's gone out to sea. let me give you a little bit of news. i got off the phone with officials in new bern.
they say they have about a hundred more rescues they are carrying out at this moment. they have done more than 375. one of the challenges they have right now is where to put the people they are rescuing. they have run out of space. because of the epic flooding, they are trapped on where they can take people to. one of the places they have gone is marine corps base. they are taking some of the evacuees from new bern there. but they are flooded to the north of new bern and cut off from greeneville where a lot of first responders are staying. the officials tell me the river is about 4 to 6 feet flooded above their surge which is good news. but they are not happy because they know rain is in the forecast. so this is going to fluctuate. it's going to be a fight over the next several days as to what they do. once we get a little bit of confidence it's not going to
rain, we are going to try to get you shots of the devastation. when it went down from a 4 to a 2, maybe people would stay behind. the wind damage is pretty significant their in morehead. we are not aware of any fatalities. some people needed assistance. but no major rescues. looks like it's going to be a costly cleanup, hopefully minimal damage. we'll continue to follow this and see what the situation is. we would like to get to atlantic beach. that was really hit hard. >> you talk about the rescues. we talked to the cajun navy, those guys were out in force, trying to rescue as many people as possible. in your area, as far as water levels go, are you in thing any fluctuation of water levels where you are?
>> absolutely. the ocean is a benefit. once the storm surge comes in, it's got somewhere to go, it goes back out to sea. the minimal flooding we have seen in this immediate area, we have seen that the water is mostly receded and gone back out to sea. like those rivers that are cresting, there is nowhere for that water to come. here in morehead, the major rivers, major newport river feeds down into this bay. that takes days, if not weeks to get out of there. >> griff jenkins. that's amazing. you look at morehead city, new bern and wrightsville beach, it's phenomenal out there. law enforcement and rescue workers on high alert as floodwaters rise and rain continues to pour. it could be a tropical depression by the end of
tonight. joiningme by phone is john ingraham. what's the biggest channel for you and your people trying to work while this storm continues raging? >> good morning. one of the challenges we face is people trying to prey on the vol meraabilitytys of others. we have a lot of people that heeded the warnings, they evacuated out a county or two, one of the numerous shelters we have open within the county. the first night we had one situation where two individuals were trying to break into cars in a neighborhood. we had a person call in, on suspicious activity. our deputies found them hiding under a car. at the same time, on the northern end of our country, our county is 855 square land miles.
on the northern end we had a couple of individuals try to break into a local store. deputies received an alarm call, responded and actually were able to get on scene before the vehicle was able to get out of the parking lot. a short chase ensued and they were able to arrest them without further incident. we have so many that are looking to -- for an opportunity to break into people's homes or businesses during one of the most difficult times that we could be facing. that's one of the challenges we are dealing with. we try to make sure that we have educated our citizens and getting out and what to do as far as securing property and working with us, the ones that do remain as far as calling in suspicious activity and our deputies, we are trying to make sure we have enough coverage in the county as well. still, it's very difficult. with the winds being as high as they are or have been, and the
rain, we are still inundated with rain. it's just unbelievable. i think we'll see near record level flooding in our county. we have experienced quite a bit in the past. that makes for a challenge in itself. >> you were talking about 855 square miles, it's a big county, sandwiched between myrtle beach and wilmington. right now, sheriff, you can't see this. we are showing pictures of rescues. in new bern there is another hundred people that need to be rescued. i'm wondering if you have a sense of how that rescue situation is going in those surrounding areas. >> i don't have a lot of information. as far as my neighboring sheriffs, what's going on in those counties, i can only imagine from what we have had to deal with in the past, all of the surrounding counties, we were assisting with rescues where they had floodwaters
rising that they had not seen in years. we are going to have a similar challenge ourself. although we have a lot of tidal water, it has somewhere to go. we have inland rivers that we expect to flood up into several of our communities. that's what we are going to try to prepare to deal with. i was looking at the forecast, we could have another 36 hours of rain. that's really going to be a challenge to deal with moving forward. >> certainly an issue. you talked about some of the egregious behavior in your county, bad things happen, bad people come out. what about the great things? i'm sure you have seen an outpouring of neighbors helping neighbors. >> i have. our county is one of those that will come together in time of need and work together to take
care of one another. we have, as you mentioned, people coming together in our shelters where they have evacuated to help one another to get through this difficult time. if you think about being in a shelter for three, four, many more days, it's a trying time. people coming together to make sure property was secure, they were able to evacuate. those that have went back or didn't leave, make sure they calm their nerves. a lot evacuated out of the county. what we are trying to do is encourage everyone to continue moving forward, having patience as we start the recovery process. and, again, it's going to be a lengthy process especially with the amount of rain we are still experiencing. we just have a great county. i'm so proud of what our
citizens do to work together. they even help us with law enforcement. we have had an outpouring of support, wanting to help our first responders, making sure they are fed and taken care of. we have had family members from other states calling and wanting to check on a love one. we have tried to make that could in the case and make sure they are okay. just a number of situations that make us proud to live where we do. >> you should be proud, sheriff. i have been to your county on many occasions. i will second that. you have wonderful people there. john ingram, best of luck to you and your residents. we are pulling for you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much. take care. >> relentless rain.
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>> while hurricane florence, now tropical storm florence packing less of a windy punch, but the real danger is the flooding with heavy rains expected to continue for days to come. ray is live for us in wilmington, north carolina. the flooding has to be awful where you are. >> you know, trace, it was this afternoon. so between 1:00 and 3:30 this afternoon, the cape fear river overflowed its banks. there was a high tide at 2:15. it came down around the hotel where we are staying and into this neighborhood where it got up to about my knees. as low tide started to come, the river went back into its banks and started going back down and there was no more flooding. however, some of the water that did flood stayed there because it wasn't able to drain and didn't have anywhere to go.
speaking of the cape fear river, we checked it about 10 minutes ago, it was not overflowing. there is a high tide coming up at 2:30. i don't want to make predictions about what's going to happen with the cape fear river over the next couple of days. based on what we observed this afternoon when there was a high tide at 2:15, the fact that it's not overflowing right now as it's about to hit high tide at 2:30 appears to be a good sign. tide cycles change every six hours. there could be more storm surge an more rain. so we are going to continue to pay close attention to t but overnight right now, we are feeling good about the fact it's not overflowing. now, another update since the last time i spoke to you about an hour ago, i spoke with a wilmington police public information officer. she gave meup dates about what
the wilmington police officers are experiencing right now on their overnight shifts. the main thing is this. just about 90% of new hanover county does not have power. so these officers are out in the pitch black and it's very dangerous. there is downed trees, standing water and power lines that have fallen. you can think any one of those three things would be dangerous at any time even under the brightness of a regular day. but it's not that. it's completely dark out there. it's pitch black. so that's adding to the danger. that's one of the reasons why there's a curfew in town from 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. it's way too dark and way too dangerous to be either driving or walking around outside. in fact, a few hours ago behind us there is still some flooding. a jeep, the driver was flying by maybe 30 miles per hour, it got
into some water, came to a shortstop, stayed there for a second, you could see the reverse lights come on and the driver just went right back and turned around and started going back to where it came from. not worth it to go into water that it can't see. >> thank you. he makes a very good point. when you look at the cape fear river, there is some room for water to rise a little bit because the tide is down. that's a huge point because forecasters are worried that come sunday, monday and tuesday when all that rain that is flowing in the inland areas, when it wants to make the way back to the ocean, the cape fear river, they are going to need space. because if there is no space, they will overflow their banks. they are talking about rivers cresting on monday and tuesday as late as wednesday having these rivers crest and that
could cause more flooding inland. even miles and miles away from the shore, away from where hurricane florence hit land, you could have flooding inland. that's a major concern because it will take, because of the water, it will take days, five, six, search o seven or eight dar that water to recede. tropical storm florence unleashing its fury on south carolina. flash flood emergencies are issued. we'll have the latest when our extended coverage continues.
depression by the morning. but people across the carolinas are warned not to let their guard down as this violent storm pummels their homes with record rainfall and historic flooding. florence is living up to her predicted fury, at least four dead, 700,000 plus homes without power. it could be 2 million by the time the storm is done. many victims may be wondering at this hour if they will have a home to come back to. hello again, everyone. we continue with our live coverage of tropical storm florence. let's get back to morehead city which has been getting rain for two days. griff jenkins is there live. >> well, trace, after 30 plus hours the fire hose has been turned off from florence at least for now. there was a gentleman here named shannon, i couldn't convince him
to come on. he had a look down here. he works in construction. he said he's worried about the flooding. it's going to take a while for the business to get going again. but from what he's been seeing, a lot of opportunity for business in terms of construction and building because of the wind damage that was done here. even though there was a downgrade, morehead city trees are fully uprooted from the ground. their entire buildings collapsed include a gas station just up the street. there are roofs ripped off. then you cross the bridge to atlantic, it's worse. we got that dirty side of the hurricane when the northeast quadrant really finished on top of us here and came straight down on top of us. i wanted to get sharon on, i wish i could have. in the last 15, 20 minutes the national weather service, they
split national weather service, local reporting. newport is the main highway where we have seen the heavy flooding. also crossing it and they have pictures up to twitter showing that the newport river is above the bridge between morehead and newport on the way to new bern making it impassable. the river above it. hopefully in the rain subsides a little more, it will become a little passible so emergency crews, construction and power trucks. duke energy made a pledge to get everybody up to power. they have zero power in this area. they have been hit really, really hard with the power outages. all the power lines are above ground. that wind damage toppled the power lines. power lines are dropped
everywhere. a dangerous situation. just to recap a little bit of what we have been talking about with the new bern officials, they are pursuing about a hundred rescues, but they are having trouble with mobility because of the flooding and having trouble finding a place to put the people they are rescuing. they have opened up a building on the marine corps air base. they are trying to assist in every way they can. >> we saw that last year during hurricane harvey. they will hopefully work that out in the coming days. as for your friend, the construction worker, he will be out of work for the next six days but then have work for the next six years. we have been tracking the storm, adam, maybe a trope cal depression by the morning. i don't think that matters. >> it's no longer a wind story.
it's about the rain and moisture. also the speed of the storm, currently we are looking at your center of circulation. it's weaker. you are still bringing the moisture with you. it's moving slow, just off to the west of myrtle beach. this is only about 85 miles from where this came on shore all the way at 7:15 this morning. only that distance traveled, that means all of this wind you have been experiencing, all of this rain has been lasting for such a long period of time. flooding is going to be the major concern. still areas where we are looking at deep rain moving on to the land where you are seeing heavy showers and producing as much as 20 inches of rainfall. this is so far. rain still falling, these numbers are only going to get higher. but wilmington, one of the areas where there is going to be major
flooding in some of these area rivers. we still have flash flood warnings stretching across a number of these counties, water picked up off the ocean and driven in. river flooding currently, there's several places where we are talking about moderate to major flooding. as this rain continues to slowly move across the region for the next day, projected, this is what we are going to see. these are rifer flooding river . this is going to huge portions of north carolina, south carolina, stretching into virginia. that won't happen until monday, tuesday, wednesday. even though we are talking about rain, the river flooding, when all this water looks for somewhere to go, that won't happen until early, middle of this upcoming week. >> makes for a scary week ahead.
back to you with updates in moments. as he was saying, flash flood warnings in effect for much of north and south carolina as the region is battered by heavy rains. forecasters fear it could continue for days to come, just pushing through. that's the big problem with this storm. one, it's huge. about the size of both north and south carolina put together. number two, it is slow. moving right now at 3 miles per hour. to go a hundred miles, it will take 30-something hours. that's 30-something hours of rain which they do not need right now. our special coverage of tropical storm florence continues.
a million people. when those people might be able to come home, very uncertain. it may not be known for days. let's go back to jonathan in wrightsville beach. are the bands of rain still on again, off again, or are you getting a break? >> right now we are getting a brief break from the rain. when we woke up we heard heavy winds. there were rains coming down. then i looked on my radar map and saw we were in the middle of one of the feeder band of this downgraded tropical storm. it's amazing how slow the storm has been moving down the coast. i have been covering hurricanes and tropical storms for decades. this is the slowest one i can remember being in. and that's frustrating for residents along the coast of north carolina, residents of communities such as wrightsville beach where i am right now. people are eager to get back on
the island, check on their homes, check on their businesses, but they can't yet because the conditions are still too treacherous and authorities are not allowing anyone back over the bridge just yet. meanwhile, on the mainland, in wilmington, wilmington police say that they are going to go out and begin their initial assessments of the damage a little bit later this morning. they think that the conditions will allow officers to go out. that will lead to the initial clean-up. but again, we are not in the clear just yet because as the wind die down, this remains a rain event. as the storm, as it's predicted, will move further inland. you have communities with saturated ground getting huge amounts of rain over long periods of time. and that creates the potential for flash flooding over the
coming days. >> i think about the days when we were down in florida covering rita or wilma. it was a category 3. such a fast moving storm, it was about wind damage. this thing is just hanging over the state. i mean, the states, i should say. >> yeah. and that's, you know, a lot of these coastal communities used to hurricanes over the years, they have become adept in designing buildings that can withstand the heavy wind. a lot of them have codes for storm windows that won't shatter up to a certain wind speed. but there's very little that you can do to protect against flooding other than move out to the desert or up at the top of a mountain. so when you have these storms that stall for long periods of time, they can do huge amounts of damage. i remember covering a relatively
minor tropical storm back in 1994 in georgia. it was named alberto. it hit the florida panhandle. did very little damage to speak of. then it parked itself over the middle of the state of georgia and just rained for days and caused epic 500 year flooding from macon to the southern tip of the state. we are probably going to see some similar scenarios as this steam slowly moves across the carolinas in the coming days, trace. >> brings back memories. i was in orlando covering that tropical storm alberto. it was ugly up there for a lot of weeks g t weeks. as tropical storm florence continues to pound the carolinas and virginia, president trump is
still taking heat for the response to hurricane maria. but who is responsible for recovery efforts in the wake of a disastrous storm. >> you are doing a heck of a job. >> since hurricane katrina, they have become politicized. local, state and federal authorities are playing a game of hot potato. states blame the fed. >> fema was not prepared and supported by the trump administration. >> the fed says it takes two to tango. >> the federal government can't do it on its own. >> but reality is far more complex. >> roads cross multiple jurisdictions. they need to be working together. >> when it comes to rescue
operations, states help one another. >> we have search and rescue teams from 19 different states who have come to north carolina and are on the ready. >> but cross sharing need to be improved. one group estimates that it cost $300 billion, 100 billion which was footed by the federal government. >> that's a huge amount of money and resources and damage. >> ultimately, the playbook goes out the window and it's all hand on deck. >> in this situation you are in triage mode. it's whatever we need to do to save lives and property. >> one describes the government's role. >> the national hurricane center says strong storm surge and strong wind will continue overnight as tropical storm
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>> in the past 24 hours we have witnessed hundreds of rescues by firefighters, coast guard and police. many working around the clock. some victims remain stranded in their homes waiting and hoping help will arrive soon. joining us is thomas, a former fema official. i got to imagine, this is risky for a lot of these first responders to go into these areas at this point in the storm. >> plea sure to be with you again. absolutely. it's a huge risk for these first responders to go into these storms. first of all, the number one danger is they never know with a type of structure they are going into. secondly, they are dealing with people with high anxiety. that's always a difficult
rescue. and then you never know what you are going to find when you get on scene if they are even going to be alive. >> high anxiety, i would be the same way. but at the same time are a lot of these people were told to get out, they didn't get out. they have to anticipate it might take a while for these people to come in and bring them out, correct? >> correct. the reality of not properly evacuating has significant consequences. that's why the governor of both south carolina and north carolina were adamant as well as local emergency management officials to get out because they knew the potential storm surge and knew the potential flooding. the reality, you can rescue in wind, but you can't in water. >> the truth is it's not fair.
we do this every storm. every time people stay behind, somebody has to get them. it's not fair for those who have to put their lives on the line to go in and get them. at the same time, these people are adamant about going in there and making these rescues. these are people who are so necessary to have in situations like this. >> well, they are critical. the reality is the first thing that fema is going to be doing, you have seen it, is contracting with the coast guard, national guard and the cajun navy who does such an amazing job. they have to rescue using air assets and boa. it's very difficult. the reality is each of these individuals, these local responders, are going through and they are victims of the disaster. so not only are they trying to save families in their homes,
but in dangerous conditions. we are going to see this for many storms to come. >> what about this storm? you are an old pro. want to know your sense of what we are going to see in the carolinas over the next three or four days. >> well, this storm is almost, this disaster is almost two separate disasters. the first disaster is the wind and the storm surge coming in and doing the damage to new bern, wilmington, hatteras. the secondary disaster is the flooding that is going to take place because of the storm not moving quickly. you may have flooding that's 3 to 500 miles away from where the storm actually came ashore. it's reminiscent of hurricane
harvey and hurricane sandy, the flooding is so intense. we are expecting down in north carolina 10 to 12 inches of rain sunday. this event can play out over the next 10 to 12 days and the damage is going to be astronomical. >> you have been there before. i appreciate your insight with us. thank you, sir, for joining us. >> pleasure to be here. take care of yourself. >> thank you for staying with us for our continued coverage of tropical storm florence. our coverage continues at the top of the hour. - [announcer] no one chooses (energetic electronic music) to lose their hair. hair club can help you get your hair back.
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