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secretary of state mike pompeo and his predecessor john kerry over u.s. policy toward iran. all that coming up good morning everyone thanks for joining me i'm maria bartiromo this is sunday morning futures. well, all of those stories coming up but first at least 12 have been confirmed dead in the carolinas as florence downgrades to a tropical depression, it is still dumping historic amounts of rain in north carolina posing a major risk of more flooding dozens of devastating communities coping with historic levels of power outages florence is now drifting westward over south carolina where at least one person was killed friday and tens of thousands are without power this morning. forecasters are warning that the worst is still yet to come. griff jenkins is live from jacksonville, north carolina with the very latest. griff good morning to you. griff: good morning, maria. anyone whose ever been to
jacksonville knows this late night landmark spot, marina cafe behind me, you can see has taken on flooding this is the new river the rainfall and the storm , the new river is causing the problems and let me just walk you through the parking lot of the marina. in the distance is where the new river comes up there's actually a marina obviously behind us but it is at almost record levels maria at 14 feet the new river floods. that's the flood stage level but it's at 24.08 this morning the record is 25.1. where i'm standing right now this is the parking lot. the dock master you see in the distance has been backing a boat trying to assess the damage. we have a little reprieve in the rain. its been raining all morning but he's getting his first look at the dock to the damage but if you look out there you can see just unbelievable what its been doing, where we are officials saying they've already made rescues this morning trying to
get to people, but with rain in the forecast its made life difficult you can see on the highway and bridge, there are cars moving and getting some power back on, but they're having to do these rescues while they do the restoration and its made it more complicated with rain in the future. i want you to look across the new river for me that orange roof, the yellow building that has been a bright spot in all of this misery. that monsters pizza is the only restaurant that's been open the owner in there, tom sanders, he decided he's got to stay open and he's been working for three straight days and jumping near us and now that you have fish in the parking lot it's a testament to how it is but tom sanders has been staying open for three straight days feeding the community and there have been hundreds lining up in this parking lot and here is why tom says he did it. >> well i'm doing it because it's needed. i mean there's nothing open, the storm closed everybody down, and
most of the places around here are corporate owned or something like that to where they don't open. as long as the law lets them do it i do it. griff: and the dock master just coming around he's busy but he says it's about 10 feet under water back in the back as people try and get back to life but with rain in the forecast it's going to be pretty tough, maria. maria: that is an incredible shot griff you are in a parking lot the water is almost up to your waste just extraordinary thanks so much griff jenkins reporting 12 people are dead as a result of this hurricane thousands of damage. we've got more now president trump is expected to announce new tariffs on about $200 billion of chinese imports as early as tomorrow national security concerns continue over china's theft of u.s. intellectual property as well the tariffs are expected to be set at about 10% the lower level than the initial 25% rate suggested by the president
earlier this year let's bring in house intelligence committee california republican congressman devon nunes from the world ag expo in california and it is good to see you mr. chairman thanks so much for joining us. great to be back with you maria thank you. maria: a lot to talk about let me kick it off with china because your committee has been investigating china from a national security angle your sponsor take on what the president is trying to do here? >> well i think ultimately we're going to win this trade war. i'm glad that nafta seems like it's on better footing now we've made an agreement with mexico i believe the canadians will come forward and it'll be good to get that solved. the fact that we have a president taking on china this has long been needed we've been running an investigation into the house intelligence committee into chinese activities around the globe we've talked about it before but what people need to really focus in on are a couple of items. one is that the chinese are stealing us blind so they are beginning to steal our
intellectual property and they're moving it to china. in fact i think it's very possible within just a few years you will see the silicon valley and the austin, texas and those places where it's kind of a hot bed of think tanks and people who really develop new technology. you could easily see that code be transferred over to china and you could see china become the new silicon valley so that's fir and foremost. secondly you have economic sub version to countries they are doing all over the globe many western european countries where they own major financial institutions, power grids, electric companies, ports, they've loaned a lot of money to countries all over the globe and just this past week, you saw that you had countries in central america who have long supported taiwan, the island of taiwan. they actually pulled their support and switched to supporting china.
we actually pulled out our ambassadors i believe in panama and honduras so this is something that continues to move forward. the president has these tariffs that he's talking about putting on the table and implementing, and i think look, if the chinese don't come to the table number one stop stealing our intellectual property, number two, stop dumping products on the market, i don't think we have a choice because if we really wait too long, our military is not going to be able to go up against the chinese in parts of the globe. maria: wow i want to just take a look at how the chinese are using their economic strength and putting it toward their military strength. we've got a map here of china's military islands and i know this is something that your committee has been looking at the fact that china is going into the sea and building islands, and saying that this is chinese territory and then building military sites
there, tell us what they're doing in particular in the south china sea. >> well and all of that started under the obama administration so the irony in this and it's always good to go back and look at recent history so we get the facts on the table so you have the obama administration who said we're going to reset we're going to actually withdraw troops from europe because the russia threat is no more, and we're going to pivot to asia. now what happens? they completely botched russia and tried to blame it on the trump adminitration and at the same time they've mill tarrized i can't see your map, but building these islands which are essentially stationary aircraft carriers where they have complete military control, command and control of the entire south china sea, so it makes it very hard for the united states to keep those major trade waters open in the event of any type of conflict because on any given day, you have two-thirds of the world's
commerce transiting threw that region. maria: we want to keep up with you on this. i'm going to keep checking back in terms of how your investigation is going this is real important and we want to point it out because we talk about trade as it relates to china but not as much about national security and that's what you are focused on. let me move on, mr. chairman, and that is get your update on where you are in your investigation into the fbi, the doj, and its handling of the two investigations trump russia and the hillary clinton investigation. there's been a call from your colleague for the president to declassify documents related to the trump russia investigation. you've been asking the president to do just that. you also have depositions of important interviews that you've done. will you declassify all of those interviews? >> yes, maria. so the american people now are beginning to see the walls are beginning to close in on the corrupt officials at the department of justice and the fbi. many of them have been fired many of them are on leave many
of them have been demoted but you are slowly starting to see this collapse in on them even though the mainstream media is not covering this because they seem so focused on drinking the russian koolaid on terms of whose getting indicted by the special counsel and instead focus on look was there any collusion between the trump campaign and russia which the anticipates is no, so we've known this for a long time our committee really led this investigation. if you look at a lot of the facts that are now out it's the facts that we found on the house intelligence committee so we believe that the depositions that we took i think for nearly about 70 people those need to be published and they need to be published i think before the election published i mean put out for the american people to review so that they can see the work that we did and they can see all of the people that were in interviewed by us and there are answers to those questions. full transparency is in order here so i expect to make those available from our committee to
the american public in the next few weeks. maria: so let me just go back here this is breaking news right now. you are going to declassify your depositions of some 70 individuals related to the trump russia collusion narrative? >> yeah, so some of them are not even classified. some of them are just held at the committee so matter of fact i think 80% of them are not classified. the ones that are classified we will have to send to the department of the or the director of national intelligence to declassify but we hope that would only take a matter of days and they don't do their normal foot dragging where they slow roll and we don't get these before the election but just for the sake of full transparencies, because there's so much that's out there, that's misinformation or disinformation on this russia gate fiasco, that we need this information out before the election and that's why we've been asking the president of the united states to declassify many more document s as it relates to not
only bruce ohr but also with the carter page fisa. maria: will the president declassify those documents before the mid-term elections? >> well look, i think he doesn't have any choice. the president talks a lot about how this russia investigation has hampered his administration and i totally agree with the president on that and if the president wants the american people to really understand just how broad and invasive this investigation has been to many americans, and how unfair it has been he has no choice but to declassify and i will tell you as we continue to move forward here, it's in the best interest of our intelligence agencies to have full transparency on this because you're really dealing with many americans who are living in an alternative
universe who have drank this russia koolaid. there is a large number of americans, maria, i know it's not the people watching your show but you'd be shocked at the number of americans who have drank the russia koolaid and they actually believe that donald trump is under control of vladimir putin. maria: right. they actually leave that house republicans are somehow under the control of vladimir putin. maria: yeah. i bet 10, 15, 20% of americans believe this it's absolutely nuts. maria: not only that but this has to do with a media leak strategy now, we understand. i've got to get your take on this because they were pretty effective with their media leak strategy if you're telling me that 20% of the american people leave it we'll take a short break mr. chairman but i've got to get your take on these new texts that we just revealed this past week where we hear peter strzok say well done, page you just planted two negative stories about donald trump &
company. we'll get to that stay with us more with devon nunes when we come back. follow me on twitter at maria bartiromo at sunday futures let us know what you'd like to hear from the chairman of intel as we look ahead on sunday morning futures back in a moment. ♪ you shouldn't be rushed into booking a hotel. with expedia's add-on advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia.
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mainstream media and even strzok 's attorneys said no he wanted to get to the bottom of leaks, he was worried about getting to the bottom making sure nobody was leaking. what was happening here and this should scare american people, it scares me, to know that the fbi and doj would go out and leak fake news stories in many cases, plant them in many cases, and then pick up those fake news stories and that's the word they used in their text message, a pre-text to go out and interview american citizens. knock-on their door and say look we head these three news stories we won't tell you we planted with the news and talk to you about these so that's first. second don't forget that the carter page fisa wasn't just that they used the clinton dirt as a basis to get the fisa.
they also used, planted news stories to corroborate the dossier in front of the court, so they went to the court and said look, look at these news stories, judge. they actually matched this dossier, never telling the court that actually those were planted news stories by the clinton campaign and the fbi so these people are really dirty. i hope that we continue to get all of this information out before the election so that people know just how sick this russia koolaid that's been poured upon the american people how bad its really been. maria: it's just been extraordinary to me how all of these agents were politicized. here we are the summer of 2016 it's a major presidential election, and all of this misconduct, not just from this people at the top of the fbi and the doj but also perhaps the cia and then we see john brennan all over town trashing the president here is the peter strzok text on december 15, 2016 referring to
the cia, we believe, we think our sisters have begun leaking like mad. scorned and worried about political, they're kicking into over drive says peter strzok to lisa page. your thoughts on this, and is that the cia, our sisters? >> it's hard to know from that text but what i can tell you is that we saw i think an unprecedented level of coordination between the clinton campaign, their associates like fusion gps and others, who had highs into the fbi and other agencies the department of state where they were able to generate fake news stories and in dozens and dozens really if you go back you can probably pick out about two to three dozen authors or reporters that were fed this directly and then spread that out in order to use it as a basis for an investigation. maria: we got to jump mr.
chairman but i know that if the house slips in november you will no longer be the chairman perhaps your colleague on the left, adam schiff, may very well be. we won't hear another word about this story we'll see you soon mr. chairman thanks very much. >> thank you. maria: chairman nunes joining us a war of words between mike pompeo and john kerry meanwhile over iran. is kerry coenact didding back door diplomacy at the expense of u.s. policy? former connecticut senator joe liner man and then we'll talk with congressman john ratcliffe looking ahead on sunday morning futures right now back in a moment. a place with 24-hour valet service... and upholstery classes. a place where seniors get the care they need in the comfort of home. home instead senior care.
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in iran by meeting with official s in iran since leaving office. pompeo tweeted this. what john kerry has done by engaging with iran's regime the world's top state sponsor of terror is unseemly, unprecedented and inconsistent with u.s. foreign policy. the deal failed, let it go. former connecticut senator joe lieberman joins us to talk more about that the chairman of the united against nuclear iran also former chairman of the senate homeland security committee and he was the democratic vice presidential candidate in the year 2000 good to see you senator thanks so much. you too, maria. maria: people are talking about the logan act what is your take on john kerry going around pompeo and talking with iran? >> i think the logan act is beside the point its been on the book for almost two centuries but here is the point. america has only one secretary of state at a given time one president, and they have a right as a result of their election, to conduct our foreign policy. when a former secretary of state goes to see the foreign minister
of iran particularly when that former secretary of state john kerry has a totally different position than the trump adminitration, secretary pompeo, myself, i'm really grateful that the trump adminitration pulled out of the iran nuclear agreement i thought it was a bad agreement for the united states. we've got iran on the ropes now, and a meeting between john kerry and the iranian foreign minister really sends a message to them that somebody in america whose important and maybe trying to revive them and let them wait and be stronger against what the administration is trying to do which is get a better nuclear agreement with the iranians, so i think it was a mistake for john kerry to meet with the iranian foreign minister. the only way i would say he should meet with any world leader today is if he was authorized by the current administration and i would have said that if conde rice wanted
to meet with somebody when barack obama was president. maria: of course you were against the iran deal from the beginning but john kerry basically admitted it in his memoire book tour that he met with him three times. what is he trying to do? we're out of the deal. what is john kerry going to do? >> right elections have consequences and in this case and in my opinion, thank god, the election had the consequence of pulling us out of a bad agreement that didn't stop the iran nuclear program which is why we adopted all those economic sanctions in congress all those years just forced them to put the brakes on for a while if they keep their word so i think with john kerry meeting with the iranians it encourages them whether he said this or not to believe they could wait it out they should be tougher with the u.s.. the fact is though even our allies in europe seem to be clinging to that bad agreement their businesses are exiting
iran because if you give them a choice, as president trump and mike pompeo have now forced them to make between doing business with iran, $500 billion gdp and doing business with america, $21 trillion gdp, is an easy choice we're going to get out of iran and that's what's happening now. we ought not to, john kerry ought not to lessen that impact on the iranians when he got them at a point where they may really want to make a better deal. maria: it seems to me that the president whether it be john kerry and the obama administration, his skeptics, talking and trashing the president in these outings, or the mainstream media ignoring important stories, they are out of their minds over the outcomes that this president has had, four plus percent economic growth the outcome of his economic policy the outcome of these judges. look at the kavanaugh hearing. you've been a student of this for many years.
have you ever seen anything like the circus that we saw for the brett kavanaugh hearing two weeks ago? >> well we've had some circuses even on supreme court nomination s which is so important. they probably first began in a way that seems quite tempered and civil now with judge being nominated to the supreme court by president reagan, and of course last under president obama, merit garland, judge garland was delayed didn't come up, but -- maria: i'm talking about harris, corey booker the theatrics that they staged they wanted the whole thing shutdown. >> right i've found these hearings on kavanaugh whatever you think of judge kavanaugh to be, well, unseemly, to be very disappointing and it's hard to believe that not so long ago, justice scalia was unanimously confirmed by the bipartisan senate just as ginsberg was confirmed 96-3 and what we've
got now over the highest court is a mud fight which brings the court and the country down and it's just another example of the way partisanship, the parties and ideologies have taken over and the best interest of the country are not served. maria: i don't think this is what the american people want particularly going into the mid-term elections. they want to see progress. if the democrats take control and flip the house nothing will get done in the next two years. nothing. >> well that's the challenge. maria: they will stop everything the president wants to do. >> absolutely and when i tariff being to people and i see it on polls. what do people really want? they want problems solved and the country to seize its opportunities for a better future and they are really disgusted by the mess in washington, by the partisan reflex back and fourth because as my friend john mccain god bless him would say, they're, people in washington are not putting their country first. maria: and yet, that's what we see. we'll keep watching good to see you senator thanks very much.
appreciate you joining us joe lieberman there how has the federal response been to florence we'll talk with common john ratcliffe who sits on that committee who overseas fema and also get back into the testimony from lisa page in which she said collusion was still unproven by the time of mueller's special counsel appointment. that was in 2017 we're looking ahead on sunday morning futures john ratcliffe on the other side of this break. ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪ no matter who rides point, ♪ there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. ♪♪ and just like tyrone taylor, they know what it takes to help keep you protected. are you in good hands?
maria: welcome back. back to our top story right now florence has been downgraded to a tropical depression, but the danger is far from over as we told you earlier it continues to dump heavy rainfall on the already flooded carolinas the white house keeping a close eye on the unfolding situation, with all eyes on fema and its response. texas republican congressman john ratcliffe sits on the house judiciary and homeland security committees that committee overseas fema and also a member of the house judiciary committee and former federal prosecutor congressman good to see you thanks for joining us. >> you bet good morning maria. maria: i want to get into one of our top stories and that's the fbi and doj investigation but first let me kick it off with florence because 12 people are dead as a result of this storm. hasselberg how has fema done in this event and were there things that needed to be done that have not been done so far, give us your take on where we stand in terms of hurricane florence. sure, as the storm dissipates,
it's a little bit difficult to get final grades for how fema has been doing, but i think they've been very smart and very strategic with respect to prepositioning and pre staging assets everything from rescue helicopters and vehicles, rescue personnel, medical personnel, power and utility personnel as well as supplies, 6 million meals, 4 million leaders of water, hundreds of thousands of blankets for those impacted so i think under really difficult circumstances, fema has done a really great job. you mentioned casualties and any number is too many, but when you look at a storm of this size and this magnitude we're talking about a tiny fraction of what we typically see or expect here so we'll wait until relief and rescue efforts turn to remediation efforts and then bring fema in but right now i think they are doing a good job
under really difficult circumstances and hope to see that continue this week. maria: our thoughts and prayers to the carolinas. congressman let me move on and ask you about the breaking news that we've had this morning earlier you heard devon nunes say that he is going to declassified some of the classified depositions that he's taken that's important got to get your take on that and then we've got this, katherine herrag e has gotten her hands-on the transcript of testimony, you were interviewing lisa page the former lawyer at the fbi recently in that hearing and we have these texts from peter strzok to lisa page back in 201s questioning whether or not he should move over to the special counsel robert mueller investigation and he says an investigation leading to impeachment? you and i both know the odds are nothing if i thought it was likely i'd be there, no question
i hesitate in part because of my gut accepts and concern there's no big there explain this, congressman. >> as i told katherine yesterday i wish i could say more about it but until those transcripts become public, i can only really talk about the around the edges, but lisa page 's testimony i can say is consistent with a lot of other testimony to the point that neither she or peter strzok and the folks at the center of the trump russia collusion investigation had any evidence of collusion with russians nearly a year into the investigation so i asked her about those questions in detail. i was hartened to hear chairman nunes say he's going to release those transcripts from the house intelligence committee and i'd urge chairman goodlatte to do the same with lisa page and peter strzok and others because the sooner those transcripts become public the sooner the public will see this russian
collusion narrative is at best misleading and at worst false from the onset. maria: so we know that he said there's no there, they had informants trying to lure trump campaign officials to get them into meetings. they had immediately a strategy apparently all the while knowing that there was no collusion. this is just extraordinary congressman. we have more texts for you to walk through us with, walk us through them because here is another one from peter strzok to lisa page after two negative articles were out, he says well done. what was this media leak strategy, sir? >> yeah, i will concede that there is such a thing as a media leak strategy having been a national security and terrorism prosecutor. sometimes you do have to deal with leaks in high profile cases but the texts really underscore
that what lisa page and peter strzok were doing there was not trying to control the leaks but to get information out that they wanted to influence this narrative so it's very troubling again, all of this ties in not just lisa page and peter strzok maria. what's important and significant about what devon nunes told you earlier is more than 70 witnesses appeared before the house intelligence committee all of them were asked the same question. what evidence do you have of russian collusion with donald trump or the trump campaign? what evidence do you have of conspiracy? what evidence do you have of coordination? and they batted a thousand in their response. these are folks like susan rice and samantha powers, senior doj and department officials and intelligence and law enforcement officials and they all said we don't have any so what we have known and what i want the public to see from these transcripts is that our law enforcement intelligence communities have known for a while that there isn't evidence of russian
collusion with donald trump or the trump campaign the sooner the public finds that out, the better off we'll all be. maria: where does this leave the special counsel congressman? as a former federal prosecutor yourself what is robert mueller doing? what is he going to have to do in the coming months? >> well part of what he's doing is still a mystery and a source of frustration to some of us in congress because we've only seen of order of pointing robert mueller we haven't seen the second scope memo that rod rosenstein signed in august of 2017 and so when folks say let robert mueller do his job i'm all in favor of that but we need to know what his job is and so it seems incredible to me the members of congress with oversight responsibilities at the department of justice none of us have seen that scope memo so it's hard to comment on that with respect to robert mueller. i am one that has not questioned
his integrity but i have questioned his judgment at times and the way he has staffed his team with folks that are very clearly anti-trump and pro- clinton partisan some of whom attended her victory party and had given her money and made derogatory statements about donald trump all call into question whatever findings he comes up with and what i don't want is for the american people to end up in a hung jury where regardless of the work he's doing half the folks conclude it's not accurate because of whose been involved in his team so we'll have to see with respect to that. maria: well i want to see when you're going to see all of this, whether or not it happens before the mid-term elections you are in a fight in terms of the mid-terms and we know if the house flips we won't hear another word about this. i want to ask you about the cost of the special counsel investigation. how much is it costing taxpayers let's take a short break and get into that when we come back we're looking ahead on sunday morning futures speaking with
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>> we are working right now to schedule them if they don't appear voluntarily we will subpoena them. we're going to do that work right through the fall, and whether it falls before or after the election, we're going to persist but we want them in as quickly as possible, as well as some other key people, nellie oh r, the wife of bruce ohr, glenn simpson her employer at fusion gps and others. maria: that was house judiciary committee chairman bob goodlatte of virginia with me last weekend on this program when i asked him whether the committee is going to be bringing back people like loretta lynch, james comey and sally yates before the mid-term elections. i'm back with republican congressman john ratcliffe of texas a member of the house judiciary committee. what is the plan, congressman, in terms of bringing back those people. you called and we spoke earlier, a rolling production of data,
forcing you to bring people back , because other wise it looks like perjury. >> right, so chairman goodlatte identified nellie ohr is planning to come into our committee later this week she of course is the wife of bruce ohr. as i told you last time i was on this show, maria, before bruce ohr's deposition i was hoping to find out whether folks at the department of justice and the fbi were aware of certain material facts and evidence before the first fisa application and i can tell you that based on his testimony, without getting into the specifics, did nothing to ameliorate my concerns it only exacerbated them and he identified half a dozen people at the fbi and at the department of justice, that knew of his operational role, his wife's operational role the fact that they were being paid for those roles so we're going to continue to bring in the nelly ohre, i'd like to bring in george papadopoulos at this point and
with respect to comey and lynch and yates and others chairman goodlatte tried the nice way and the not so nice way of a subpoena is going to be necessary and appropriate at this point because you've alluded to this maria, about justice delayed can be justice denied and if republicans are not in control of the house we may never get a chance to question these folks again. maria: real quick congressman. is it even possible that robert mueller will not look at it with all of this blatant wrongdoing in our faces that we talk about every sunday is it even possible that robert mueller is not going to look at this and how much is this special counsel investigation costing us where he is not looking at any of this >> i'll be honest with you maria. i don't think he is looking at this angle of it. i've seen no indication that he's doing that and i think that's why many of us think there need to be a second special counsel dedicated to
investigating the department of justice and the fbi and when i say that i mean the senior folks within the obama administration that we've been talking about. robert mueller, the cost of this , obviously we're in the millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars, and you know what? it's all worth it if he does write the definitive narrative on russian interference in our elections but that's different than russian collusion with trump or the trump campaign, and what i don't want robert mueller to do is to fall into the same circle with james comey and allow their actions to influence the outcome of an election or attempt to influence an election the american people deserve to know that donald trump was not colluding with the russians if in fact that determination has been made by the special counsel maria: congressman good to have you on the program this morning all i could say is this upcoming mid-term election seems like the most consequential mid-term elections we've seen in a long time thank you for joining us sir we will be watching the
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maria: welcome back we are joined by our panel ed rollins is a former campaign manager for reagan bush 1984 james freeman is an assistant editor of the wall street journal editorial page both are fox news contributors great to see you talking china with these tariffs that we're going to see tomorrow from the president as well as mid-term elections your thoughts on this new doubling down of these new tariffs. >> yeah it is a serious move and politically dangerous move because this unlike the previous rounds which hit the manufactures, these are tariffs
on a lot of consumer goods so consumers are going to see higher prices and you have to believe the retaliation from china as has been their pattern is going to target trump states, agriculture so there's a question of how patient farmers who generally like the president are going to be with this trade fight. maria: you say on the one hand the tariffs are going to hit every day ordinary americans because it's just consumer goods on the other hand the retaliatory tariffs hit the farmers? >> yeah and bicycles luggage people will see those prices, the president has been popular in the farm belt, he's obviously trying to set the table to permanently advantage the united states and his view or to get a deal out of china but we'll see if the voters will have that patience. maria: ed how do you see it? >> i see it exactly the same way it's very precarious the chinese are planners i've spent a lot of time in china in the past they have a 50 year plan and probably 10 year plan relative to how they screw up
trump and congress so my sense is they know every single congressional district and they know what's going to happen and what impact it is. it's just the way they are they are big thinkers and very oriented plan, and our planning in the u.s. next week, so i think to a certain extent we shouldn't underestimate that equally as important the 10% tariff we could get through that but if it goes higher, it goes to more subjects, i think it'll have a big impact and it could be all the way through the presidential election. maria: but look at this op-ed in the new york post today going into the mid-term elections the writer writes one question republicans needs to ask voters to keep congress, are you better off today than you were two years ago? look at every economic metric. >> i agree. maria: unemployment, income, poverty, household income, wages >> i think it's very important that congressman make that challenge, are you better off, the problem is an election like this is all about the president, and the president has popularity in some places and not in other
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