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did you have fun? >> i had fun being here. >> somebody tweeted they didn't like eric. we're back monday at noon eastern. right here melissa francis. >> mike pompeo holding urgent meetings in mexico as president trump signs off on the massive caravan heading toward our border. secretary of state mike pompeo in mexico city for meetings with officials there. president trump continues to blame democrats for weak immigration laws and threatens to shut down the southern border if mexico can't stop the caravan. listen to the president less than 24 hours ago at a rally in montana. >> i just want to thank the mexican government.
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they're stopping it, hopefully, before it ever gets to mexico. phr >> i'm willing to send our army because of the immigration onslaught brought by the democrats because they refuse to acknowledge what could change the laws. >> rich edson has more from the state office. >> reporter: mike pompeo is in mexico city. he's just met with the mexican foreign secretary. it was part of a discussion on the caravan that's coming through. secretary said mexican government thus far has discussed this in good faith as this caravan of thousands of migrants comes from central america north towards the united states. >> related to securing our southern border.
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it's also a challenge for americans sovereignty. we have to fix u.s. laws in order to handle this properly as well as an american burden, and as president trump has said, it's something we need to address inside of our country. >> reporter: the secretary also said there is a fair amount of work to accomplish still on this. mexico has announced it will return migrants coming to mexico to their home countries. the mexican government is coordinating to help deal with migrants pleaing poverty. u.s. and its allies are working to address the security conditions that drive illegal immigration to the united states. officials point to the more than $2.5 billion in assistance the u.s. has given to the region, though critics point to the recent budget cuts in that aid. secretary of state is also going to meet with the mexican
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president this afternoon and officials from the incoming government, mexico has a new government coming in december 1st. >> thanks for that. for more r let's bring in republican congressman peter king of the house intelligence committee. sir, thank you for joining us. what do you think of this solution? >> first of all, it's important the president speak out the way he is, to let mexico know there's a real burden on them. this president, despite what was said during the campaign, president trump has reached out to mexico as far as the new nafta agreement. that helps mexico. he's been very good with mexico. he can be the good cop and bad cop right now it's time for mexico do their job and keep those people from coming into the u.s., doing all that they can. if in the end the president has to use the military, that would be the last step. he blames democrats. as a country, we're not speaking with one voice.
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even apart from changing any legislation or even building the wall. if everyone said they are opposed to this, this is wrong. instead, when the president talks about a wall, they say anti-immigrant. when he talks about enforcement, they say anti-immigrant. i believe we should have a comprehensive approach to immigration. we can't do that until we secure the border. >> this has always been the case. people have pointed out that these migrants are not coming from mexico. they're coming through mexico. and that mexico sort of just ushers them all the way through. this is a new step. they're saying we're gonna set up camp, bring in the u.n. this is something that could have happened a long time ago. why is it happening now? is it tied to that trade deal? in my mind, it's not a co-i.n.s. kwepbs that both those things are happening around the same time. >> yeah. i agree with you. mexico, if they do follow
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through and do take it stronger, i think it's a direct result of president trump engaging with the mexican government. and to show there can be cooperation, but it goes both ways. so i think again, i'm hoping, and there seems to be some reason for confidence here that mexico is going to do the right thing, at least do a better job than they have done in the past. if it does happen, i would a lot of it is by president trump knowing how to deal, good cop and bad cop. he can be both. he does both very effectively. he's showing it right now with mexico. >> how do you reconcile with the way mexico and the president started with all the name calling. people in this country were upset and hysterical about the idea that we were alienating our neighbors to the south. how are we in this position now? >> i would say one thing we should know with president trump is wait until a final decision is made. he's a negotiator.
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he can be at the same time good cop and bad cop. he's very tough on mexico, very critical of mexico. he puts them in a position to be more apt to bargain. he all holds the carrot and the stick. i think what he did with nafta is better for the u.s. also better for mexico. >> in your mind, if this issue settles the caravan that is making its way up, is it going to make its way to our border still? and fit does, who is that bad for politically as we approach the midterms here? >> well, i'm hoping it doesn't make it. i'm hoping and trusting that the mexicans will do their job, the mexican government, and stop this caravan from coming to the u.s. border. if not, the president can increase border patrol, use the national guard, use strength if he has to. if it's done the right way and honest way, if anyone is blamed
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politically, it should be democrats, only to the extent that they provide this atmosphere that almost encourages people to come here. they say they're against illegal immigration, but they won't approve a wall. when you talk about more security, they back away from that. they aubg ab giving amnesty before there's a secure border, that encourages more people to come across the border. i wish we were speaking with one voice. >> speaking of speaking with one voice, it's on all of you in congress in order to rewrite the laws and come up with immigration reform. that's something that, you know, lot of americans thought they would see within the past two years. it hasn't happened. how do you respond to that? >> i think both sides have to do it. i strongly believe in having the border wall and strict security at the border. i do believe we're going to have security. we can consider allowing those who have been here to stay, so long as they have a good record. so long as they are complying
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with our laws. we can't be doing that unless there's a secure border. both have to be done. too many on the republican side won't allow them to stay no matter what. and too much on the democratic side thinks building a wall is anti-immigrant, which it's not. >> congressman peter king, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, melissa. >> for more on that, let's bring in the director of research in the center for immigration studies. thank you for joining us. what's your take on this new solution from mexico and from the u.n. to set up these camps on the southern border and to process people there with the u.n. there to see who has true refugee status and what's the best way to solve the problem? >> welsh let's explain a few things to your listeners. what's happening, people are coming to the border. it's not so much they're slipping past the border. a wall would make that much
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difference. they apply for asylum. our laws require them to give them a credible interview. after we parole them into the united states because we don't have the detention space to hold them. that's why we were separating people with those who had children. if you have a child, we're going to release you into the united states. everybody knows that. so the system has gotten overwhelmed. that encourages more people. we used to only have a few ten thousand people applying for asylum. now we have 300,000. >> what do you think of the solution of stopping people at the border with mexico? >> this is important. the cooperation of mexico can be enormously helpful. if mexico heads them off, all the loopholes and problems in our law don't manifest themselves. so that could be helpful. we know that the vast majority of people would not qualify for asylum in the united states or mexico. what they mostly are are people, understandably, looking for a better life.
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that's why they do through mexico instead of applying for asylum there. they want to come to the united states for a better life, not because they're coming out of fear they're going to be killed, which is what asylum is supposed to be here. bottom line, this could be helpful, it could head people off, but everybody knows the goal is to get to the border. people are gonna continue to show up to the border. they don't want a careful adjudication of their claim. they want to get to the border, be paroled in the united states while we're considering their claim, which takes years and they can live here and join the existing population. >> the only solution is comprehensive immigration reform, where we come up with a way to decide who can immigrate to the u.s. or not? >> this is not -- comprehensive immigration is usually about amnesty in exchange for some kind of enforcement. the key loophole is to say when you show up at our border and
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you've already gone through a third party, you can't apply for asylum here. >> i think we did that issue. i'm moving on to the idea that you talk about the people coming for economic reasons. >> right. >> so how do you deal with those folks? we do have a lot of open jobs. the president said we want immigrants. we just want to pick the people. we want to have some sort of vetting process so we know who's coming. is that still the case? how do we work on that? >> right now we're already letting in 1.1 million new legal immigrants a year. there isn't much public support to increase that number. the tenor of the debate is moving toward skilled workers. having graduated high school in their home country. only about 8% or 9% have a college degree, if that. so it doesn't look like we can come up with a way of letting all these unskilled folks in.
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the research shows lower wages at the bottom end of the market. it's hard to make the case that we're gonna let in more unskilled people. closing those loop holes and enforcing our laws is our best option. >> so you sound like you're in favor of pretty much closing up that border. we don't need any more people. we do have a lot of jobs in the united states that people don't want to do. there are unskilled jobs here that are left open. >> right. employers argue that. it's harder to find that in the government data. right now we have a lot of people who don't have education beyond high school that are out of the labor market. real wages for workers with a high school degree or less are 10% to 20% lower now than they were three decades ago. i guess for my skepticism, let
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me see rising wages at the bottom end of the u.s. labor market, then i'll believe we have a shortage. right now we've got to draw all those people back in who are sitting on the sidelines. >> some people would say you're heartless. some say do the math. thank you for joining us today. >> thanks for having me. >> president trump speaking out on missing columnist jamal khashoggi amid growing questions of how the u.s. should respond if it's found out the saudis were responsible for his killing. ben cardin weighs in next. plus, president trump taking center stage as the midterm elections loom. the hot button issues he's highlighting ahead of november and how they could sway voters. >> but the choice could not be more clear. democrats produce mobs. republicans produce jobs. your insurance rates skyrocket after
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can >> it certainly looks that way. very sad. certainly looks that way. [ inaudible ]
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>> it's bad. but we'll see what happens. >> melissa: president trump admitting publicly that it appears missing u.s. based columnist jamal khashoggi is dead and warning of severe consequences if it's discovered that saudi arabia was involved in this apparent murder. this as "the new york times" report that saudi leaders are considering pinning the alleged killings on the top intelligence official. chief white house correspondent john roberts is live at the white house with more details on this, john? >> reporter: melissa, good afternoon. the president is in scotts dale, arizona. we likely will not hear from him until his rally in mesa tonight. the president on his way to air force one yesterday headed to montana does seem resigned to the notion that jamal khashoggi was, in fact, killed. the president is giving saudi
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arabia more time to complete its investigation. he was suggesting that maybe that investigation might be completed by today, but it's getting late in saudi arabia. it's already about 8:16, 8:17 p.m. at night. so it may be late to get any results this evening. turkey is said to have audio recordings of khashoggi interrogation and murder. they are now saying he died from strangulation. secretary of state mike pompeo was in turkey wednesday, and con prayer to some reports, pompeo insists he did not hear those recordings. here he is in mexico city earlier today. listen. >> i have heard no tape. i have seen no transcript. and the network that reported that ought to pull down the headline that says i have. we should be factual when we record things. this is a very serious matter that we're working diligently on. to put up headlines that are factually false does no one any good.
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>> reporter: melissa, you mentioned this at the top going into more detail. there are reports that saudi arabia is preparing to pin the blame for khashoggi death on this man. he is an intelligence official. he was formerly the saudi military spokesman in yemen. lot of speculation that the plot does go higher, but saudis may make the case that it begins and ends with him to keep it out of the orbit of the crown prince. one other piece of news. steven mnuchin cancelled his appearance at the big investment conference set for riyadh next wednesday, but he will be traveling to saudi arabia, to riyadh, next week, to participate in a security conference. white house officials are saying participating in a security conference about terrorism is much different than going to a big show case investment conference. melissa? >> melissa: interesting. thank you. let's bring in democratic senator ben cardin, member of
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the foreign relations committee. so many questions. let me start with this idea that they're going to potentially try and blame an intelligence officer in saudi arabia. what do you think of that? >> well, melissa, it's good to be with you. the saudis keep changing the story. first they said the reporter left unharmed. then they said that it was a botched interrogation. now they're trying to pin it on one person. this is very, very troublesome. we need to get the facts. we should have had the facts by now. clearly the saudis are trying to scramble to protect the royal family. it's difficult to believe anything could happen in the kingdom of saudi arabia without the royal family knowing about it. >> melissa: so what do you think the right response is then? >> our response has to be pretty strong, there's no question
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about that. the strength of our foreign policy is in our values. what the saudis have done is contrary to our values. u.s. has to provide international leadership. it has to affect the relationship. we're strong enough to deal with strategic partnerships around the areas, but we should be looking at individual sanctions on those who were responsible. yes, we should be re-evaluating issues such as military sales and our military relationships as well as economic and energy issues. >> melissa: if you try to put sanctions on individuals who are responsible, i wonder how we'll ever know who that is. we can't do an investigation into what happened inside saudi arabia. we're not there. we don't necessarily have the authority. we may demand answers, but i don't know how we could ever trust whatever information we're given. so how do you choose individuals that you would then isolate for
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punishment? >> well, there are a lot of intelligence information available through the u.s., through turkey, through our allies. we have the capacity to get a better understanding as to what exactly happened and the accountability of the leadership in saudi arabia. we need to do our own independent investigation. we need to do that with sanctions. >> melissa: do you think that's already going on, sir? don't you think that's already going on? don't you think we have people trying to figure out what's happening? >> absolutely. i have a lot of confidence in our intelligence community. they haven't shared that with members of congress, to my knowled knowledge. it's only being shared in the executive branch. i hope it would be shared as part of the u.s. response. >> melissa: somebody on the foreign relations committee, do you feel any better about information that you would get from the turks than the saudis? >> i would take the turks
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information and use it for our own purposes. don't assume that's the final answer. same thing with the saudis. you take as much information as you get. our intelligence community, they know how to use that information, put it together with their own sources, with our own sources and know what's reliable and not reliable. by taking as much information as we can, we can put the puzzle back together again and find out who's responsible. >> melissa: boy, i hope so. senator ben cardin, thank for joining us today. >> my pleasure. >> melissa: big developments in the investigation into alleged anti-trump bias at the justice department. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein is set to appear on capitol hill. today, nellie orr connected to the trump dossier is taking questions from lawmakers. well, some questions. plus desperate search for a missing 13-year-old girl who vanished after her parents were shot to death earlier this week.
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>> melissa: a key figure connected to the anti-trump dossier on capitol hill. nellie orr used to work for fusion gps. she is speaking to lawmakers ahead of the embattled deputy attorney general. appearing before a joint house panel next week. nellie orr is married to doj official bruce orr. that's apparently a big factor in which questions she's answering. katherine herridge is live on capitol hill with more. >> reporter: thanks, melissa. nellie orr has been behind the closed doors behind me for about 3 1/2 hours. this is a transcribed interview. she's come here voluntarily. we've heard from two republicans
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and one democrat who all confirm that she's being cooperative, but has invoked the spousal privilege. this allows her to avoid questions in order to protect a couple's communications. >> it's been a big waste of time. i didn't learn a whole lot. >> there were privileges she took, spousal privileges, communication between her and her husband, which i fully understand, and yet at the same time, that is at the crux of the matter. what communications and what direction happened between a doj official and his wife? >> reporter: nelli orr arrived here this morning. she sort of shook her head, no, she did not want to take reporters' questions. nellie orr matters because she's in between two important entities. one is her husband bruce ohr, who passed a dossier to the fbi in the fall of 2016, and then
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her employer who has since then, fusion gps. bruce ohr was up on capitol hill for a similar deposition in august. he came with attorneys from the justice department and the fbi and lawmakers said he was forth coming. they also have an extensive paper trail to work with. there are about a dozen fbi interviews. some bruce ohr's contact with the dossier in 2016. a person who has a lot of the answers is the co-founder of gps. he was here for a deposition earlier this week, where he took the fifth and also ignored reporters see questions. >> mr. simpson, what was on the memory stick that you gave justice department official bruce ohr in late 2016? mr. simpson? will you take our questions? mr. simpson, was any part of the dossier ever verified? how is refusing our questions consistent with your past job as a journalist, mr. simpson?
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mr. simpson, will you take our questions? >> reporter: simpson's attorney said he was taking the fifth because he testified in front of other committees and he felt this was really a circus and not a serious investigation. separately, we've heard from two republicans who have been in the deposition behind me this morning on the rod rosenstein issue. they both said that they were unhappy. one used the word that it was unacceptable, the terms that had been agreed to next week. this will be at this point a closed door under oath transcribed interview, but it's going to be in a classified setting in a secured facility. it's going to take some time for that record to be declassified and made public. harris. melissa. >> melissa: that's okay. great reporting. for more on all of this, let's bring in the former deputy assistant attorney general under president george w. bush. what's your reaction to what you
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just heard from catherine? >> i think it shows that there was fair amount of potential corruption in the justice department. as a former official, it scares me to see what was going on, how politicized people are being. if you had a high level doj official like a bruce ohr, who's heavily involved in law enforcement and counter intelligence investigations, whose wife is working for a political intelligence outfit being paid for by democrats. at the very least, he should have nothing to do with anything that involves his wife's firm. regardless of whether she's taking spousal or taking the fifth. it's just commonsense. no justice department official should be involved in anything involving their spouse. >> melissa: let me ask you. is that the practice? is that what is expected? i have heard those on the other side make the defense, you can't punish someone for what their spouse does. that's not fair. there's lots of people who live
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in washington and they have both parties working and it may overlap. you're saying it would be within the justice department or the fbi. you cannot have anything to do with this because your wife's involved on the other side. >> oh yes. it's not just common sense. we're not talking about punishing people who, couples, both of whom are working in washington, d.c. we're not saying mrs. ohr has to quit her job or mr. ohr has to quit his job. there are plenty of things at the justice department. there are bad guys to catch. why isn't bruce ohr working on other cases? he doesn't have to be involved in fusion gps. hand it off to an impartial official who doesn't have to be hired by the clinton campaign to feed political intelligence. >> melissa: what if he was the back channel into the fbi? that's the way it's been characterized by some who they say are privy to the records.
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that this is all largely discredited. that fusion had been shopping it around to bunch of different people. it took bruce ohr back channelling it into the fbi that he was working, this work product that it took that in order to get it in. i mean, then what does that mean? is there a punishment for that? >> for an example, that is exactly why he should have discussed himself. no matter what the merits may or may not be, we want to see all of it declassified as well as the fisa warrants that were built upon it. no matter what he did, it's going to look questionable because of the chain that you just laid out and the connections you described. it's very close to where there ought to be an independent counsel or special counsel appointed to look into this. the appearance is that the
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clinton campaign paid the wife of a justice department official to feed discredited information and because of it, highly classified, anti-espionage warrant was used. which is only to be used in special cases to surveil the presidential campaign of the opposing party. that just looks terrible. there ought to be not just a congressional investigation, but there might have to be a criminal investigation by a justice department prosecutor. >> melissa: justice department, they're involved, so that makes itself all the more dicey. john yoo, thank you for your time. come back soon. fox news alert. as the search for mace missing wisconsin teacher comes to its third day, the fbi placing jamie claus at the top of its missing persons list. police finding the bodies of her parents inside their home about 30 miles north of milwaukee early monday morning, but no sign of claus.
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dozens of volunteers joining the desperate search for the teen, as hundreds of tipped poured in. we are live from barron, wisconsin, with more. matt? >> reporter: melissa, this is the spot where police say james and denise closs were shot to death. their daughter jayme was likely home and saw her parents murdered. the fbi placed jayme closs at the top of their missing persons list because it is in critical need of the public's phep so far the 400 plus tips that have come in have not led to anything credible. moments later the barron county share river sent out an alert asking anyone who spent time with this murdered wisconsin couple to come forward with any information or keep their eyes and ears open for anyone acting suspicious. we talked to some family and neighbors in this area say they don't know anyone who would want to kill this couple.
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we also spoke to people who live in town about this mysterious double murder. >> i have got deer cameras out. we looked at our cameras to see if anyone's been messing around but haven't seen it. a difficult situation. >> we're all heart sick. it's unbelievable that this would happen here in this area. it's just -- i know a number of people that just have a feeling of doom and gloom. >> reporter: law enforcement organized a 14-mile search through the ditch line of the highway that the house sits on. unfortunately, that search led to nothing. we are now in day five, this region on high alert. who ever made their way into this house and killed two people and potentially abducted a 13-year-old girl is still out there. melissa? >> melissa: matt, thank you. president trump laying down the key issues he says frame the midterms. what they are and whether this
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>> this will be an election of kavanaugh, the caravan and commonsense. that's what it's going to be. >> melissa: that was president trump in montana framing the midterms of a referendum of some controversial issues including the fight to confirm brett kavanaugh to the supreme court. immigration are among the top issues extremely important to
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voters. radio talk show host and former republican candidate in new jersey. and doug shone a former adviser to president clinton and a fox news contributor. >> that is a fresh wound in the minds of republicans. president is being smart that the midterm election is a base election. you're gonna get the democrats out for their guys and republicans out for their guys. it's a question of can you demoralize your side enough? the odds are in his favor. we talked about the caravan and immigration. it favors the president. >> melissa: so it isn't about independence and isn't about those swing voters. there have been those who say the president is turning off
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women and the gender cap and that they're going to vote democrat. what he's saying is they're not going to vote at all. >> i have a slightly different view than bill. i think it is ab suburban women. it is about independence. there is a percentage of republicans, not a big group, but say about 20% that are not 100% positive to president trump. i think you have the democrats on the economy, healthcare, immigration potentially, education, can make a case for change, then the house will flip, but candid lit the senate, i don't think will go democratic. >> melissa: we were having an interesting conversation in the break we'll let people in on it, talking about the migrant group that is making its way to the border and who it helps. there are people who think it hurts the president because it's another group of people that look like they're in search of a better life and he's gonna slam the door in their face. >> it almost doesn't look like that. it looks like it's mostly men. if you had a lot more women
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carrying babies, you could make the emotional plea. i don't think anybody denies or doubts people are fleeing terrible, terrible lives in areas like that. then the question remains, what do you do about it? now the president framed the argument, we have to protect our southern border. when you start to bring tpheupl in the image of men coming across the border, talk of terrorism, the dynamic has changed. we're not talking about refugees from syria. we're talking about our southern border and protecting our interest. >> there are a lot of people concerned about immigration. those that vote on it tend to be republicans. so reluctantly and regrettably i have to agree with bill that if this caravan gets the kind of visibility that is good, it will benefit the republicans not withstanding the fact that immigration clearly has not been a good issue for the republicans. >> melissa: is it not in republicans interest to have the
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caravan break up the southern mexico border. seems very humanitarian where you bring the u.n. down to the border and process them and find places for them to go. >> i think it's a win/win either way. if you have this optic that forces the president to say, or gives him the opportunity to say, i'm gonna stand up for our border and then you solve it in the humanitarian way, the president comes out the winner, we can solve problems. >> melissa: healthcare. you don't think it's as big a deal or do you think it is? >> i think it's a big deal especially preexisting conditions. but it's not the only issue. you can't run a one issue campaign on health care and to the extent democrats are doing it. i think that's somewhat misguided. >> melissa: a member of "the new york times" editorial board says hillary clinton is becoming a liability for democrats ahead of the midterms. is she? the power panel stays right
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homelessness. gavin newsom, it happened on your watch. so, yeah. it is time for a change. time for someone new. >> dana: mike pompeo meeting with top officials in mexico to discuss the influx of people at the border while reports indicate the caravan has been stopped at the mexico/guatemala border.
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the commissioner of the border patrol joins me. plus chris stirewalt talks about where things stand before the midterms. and people in the eye of hurricane michael, their incredible story of survival at the top of the hour. >> in retrospect, do you think bill should have resigned in the wake of the monica lewinsky scandal? >> absolutely not. >> it wasn't an abuse of power? >> no, no. >> melissa: hmm. fallout over hillary clinton's recent interview where she defended her husband's affair with monica lewinsky. clinton all said democrats cannot be civil with republicans any more. now a new york times editorial board claims hillary maybe should get off the stage. having mrs. clinton proclaim political stability dead until her team wins again is unlikely to prove inspirational as a
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message for these voters. it is extremely likely to electrify the republican base in close collective lizard brain mr. clinton still looms large the ultimate boogey man. we're back with our panel. bill, does hillary clinton loom large within your lizard brain? >> still digesting that whole lizard brain thing. >> melissa: i know. >> slur on republicans. >> it's an attack. >> it's amazing. i think hillary is so desperate to stay relevant that she's willing to say anything. however, i don't think her defending her husband should be a shock to anyone. that's the expected answer. when it comes to stability, i think she's smart enough to know what the president knows. the president knows it's a base election. you gotta raoeul your guys up. meanwhile democrats are talking
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about socialism healthcare and whether or not you're native american. >> my take is hillary clinton should sit down, shut up and best go away. we don't need this talk about civility. we should be civil. we're the united states of america. for goodness sake. eric holder. we should kick them? this is nuts. secretary clinton doesn't add to the debate when she's weighing in on the lewinsky matter. >> melissa: why do you think she's out doing interviews? let me put it properly. politico had the argument that he really thinks it could happen, the chance of hillary running in 2020. >> you just answered the question. she thinks in her own mind she can run. there was a president named richard nixon who lost for governor of california in 1962, was elected president in '68. hillary says, look, it's a divided field, i have the most
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name recognition. she thinks she can run. i don't think think she can run, but she does. >> she's also doubling on the vitria hrp to me this seems like what republicans were doing. donald trump, this guy is way out there, too vicious, the conversation is too challenging. the truth is, if they nominated a moderate, hillary may well be president. instead we've got donald trump who's standing up for the country. tax cuts and border control and north korea. all of these successes one after the other. democrats at this point don't even have a leader or an effective message. how can you be talking about dna tests three weeks before the midterms? >> i agree we don't have a leader. that's why hillary is coming back. if we talk about unity, civility and real change, we will win.
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>> dana: this is a live picture of the border between mexico and guatemala. you can see that caravan of 3,000 people has made its way there to the southern border with mexico. that flag you see in the center, that's the flag of guatemala. you can see people there beginning to crawl over the fence. with that, i will hand it over to dana perino. >> dana: u.s. and mexico working out a plan to deal with the migrant caravan trying to cross a river at the mexico/guatemala border. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino and this is "the daily briefing." trump administration taking steps to head off the growing caravan before it reaches our southern border. secretary of state pompeo speaking a short while ago in mexico city. >> we are


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