>> mike love from the beach boys will join us in the "after the show show" and spill the beans what it was like going around the world with the beach boys but it's on fox nation only. download it. >> have a great day. >> bill: good morning. everybody. fox news alert. two hours from now president trump's national security team will go to congress and the stories there are significant. the entire senate will be briefed on critical foreign policy issues that face the u.s. defense secretary james mattis will be there, secretary of state mike pompeo. one key player missing is the c.i.a. director gina haspel. some of these senators aren't happy about that. it goes down at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. more on that inside "america's newsroom." first another big victory for president trump and the gop. senator cindy hyde-smith cementing her place as the 53rd

republican senator. it is wednesday. i'm bill hemmer. how are you doing? >> sandra: good morning, ifm owe sandra smith. republicans dominating control of the senate. hyde smythe beating out mike espy by nearly 8% last night making the republican the first woman elected to congress from the state of mississippi. here is what she told supporters last night. >> i am so grateful. i'm so humbled for the honor you have given me to elect me as your united states senator. it shard to describe the feelings tonight for me and my family. tonight in this victory the reason we won is because mississippians know me and they know my heart and thank you for stepping up, mississippi. >> bill: that victory gives republicans 53-47 edge in the upper chamber and that's where we stand now. >> sandra: jonathan serrie is live from jackson with more this morning for us.

good morning. >> good morning, sandra and bill. cindy hyde-smith is wasting no time getting right back to work. she is on an early flight back to washington, d.c. the republican defeated democrat mike espy by a comfortable margin. the race was still closer than some might have expected in this deeply red state. hyde-smith who made gaffes during the campaign deemed by some as racially insensitive used her victory speech as a platform to bring mississippians back together. >> i want everybody to know, no matter who you voted for today, i'm going to always represent every mississippian. i will work very hard, do my very best to make mississippi very proud of your u.s. senator. >> president trump, who campaigned heavily in this state for hyde-smith tweeted helps continues saying we are proud of you and her opponent added his congratulations as

well. >> she has my prayers as she goes to washington to unite a very divided mississippi. and she has my prayers and my willingness to help her to do that. >> and mike espy says although yesterday's runoff did not produce the results he would have wanted, he says he is very proud of his campaign and present -- predicted it is the start of a new movement to bring his state forward. >> bill: the battle over securing the border has gotten hotter at this hour. president trump laying down the law threatening to shut down the government unless he gets the money for the wall. graham warning democrats don't take the warning lightly. >> if the president blinks his credibility on securing the border is dead. he won't blink. to my democratic friends, how

do you expect the public to work with us to fix a broken immigration system if you support one wave after another? a lot is at stake here. the president will not bend or back down. i hope the republicans in congress will stand behind him. >> bill: ron johnson, welcome back here. we have a lot to cover. let's talk about the border first. what gives on that if some senators are at $5 billion and democrats and the senate say no more than one half half? >> well, the president deserves to have better barriers funded. $5 billion is proudly the right figure at this point in time. but we have to recognize the fact that what we're seeing at the border right now is just a culmination of bad policy, loopholes, bad precedent that is rewarding people to come to this country illegally. we talked about the 8,000 to 10,000 people in the caravan.

but in fiscal year 2018, 1400 people per day were apprehended illegally or showed up at ports of entry and didn't have proper documentation. last month alone it was 1960 people per day, per day. so my concern is right now they are massing in tijuana, my concern is they'll get organized and start coming into the areas of the border where there aren't barriers and it will become a bigger problem and see larger and larger caravans. >> bill: the quote from the president on that. we need democratic votes to have a wall. now if we don't get it, will i get it done another way? i might get it done another way. there are other potential ways i can do that. you can do more manpower. is that the fallback plan? >> well, i'm not exactly sure what the fallback plan would be. congress has to change these

laws. we incentivize people and reward people for coming to the country illegally. it's a huge draw. once people get onto american soil they begin this process of lengthy adjudication that can go on for years. bill, one thing is not widely known. in the last 10 years we have administratively closed over 2.4 million immigration cases. in other words, we just close the cases. we didn't decide them. these individuals are in legal limbo in the united states. they aren't being deported. they don't have any kind of legal status. but that's completely off everybody's radar. the numbers we're talking about are enormous. 1.3 million people according to a study by a database in syracuse university have come into this country and opened up an immigration case from central america alone. 1.3 million people since 2001. the numbers are overwhelming. when we talk about an 8,000 or 10,000 person caravan that's

the tip of the iceberg of the problem that's growing larger. >> bill: is a shutdown worth it? >> we've funded 70% of the appropriated accounts. if we don't pass a dhs appropriation bill essential for national security and spending will keep going forward. but listen, there are certain things that would not be funded but it's very difficult to shut down the government. >> bill: i want to move overseas, a big story that with russia and ukraine that you'll take action on this today. a statement that came out of moscow vladimir putin blaming ukraine for the stand-off. he said it's provocation. a minor incident in the black sea and they impose martial law on the country. it's done because of the upcoming election is a fact. what are you willing to do today, sir, on your resolution, senator, on this? >> well, we are going to be offering a bipartisan resolution to get tough on russia. what i would love to see is

multi-national freedom of navigation operations going through the kerch strait to establish it as the rule of law that russia will have to abide by. this is a situation where vladimir putin sees the results of the u.s. elections and satisfies the weakened state of macron, merkel and the british prime minister as well. he is testing the west. he will see how we react. we must react with strength and resolve. >> bill: do you think taking a dozen soldiers captive is a minor incident and firing on warships at sea? >> no. it's a huge provocation. ukraine has the right of navigation through the kerch strait. it was a provocation of russia and putin. he is testing the west. we better measure up in that test. >> bill: mike pompeo will be there in two hours. will you attend the briefing? i assume you will. >> yes. >> bill: he wrote a piece. u.s./saudi partnership is vital.

we don't -- the kingdom is a powerful force for middle east stability. what do you think about this today, senator? >> what i know is iran is the most maligned force in the middle east. they're a valued ally and want we need to stabilize the middle east. we have to maintain as good as relations as we can with saudi arabia. the killing of khashoggi doesn't make that any easier. >> bill: this came up yesterday at the briefing. john bolton followed larry kudlow and the topic came up about listening to the audio tape. >> i haven't listened to it and i guess i should ask you why you think i should. how many of this room speak arabic? you want me to listen to it? what will i learn from it? if they were speaking korean i wouldn't learn more from it, either. >> you don't think it's important you hear it?

>> i'm trying to make the point everybody that says why don't you listen to the tape. unless you speak air beck what are you going to get from it? >> the c.i.a. director will not be there. you want to hear from her? >> i want to see how the c.i.a. came to the assessment the crown prince directed this. regardless whether it was the crown prince, it was elements within the saudi government that planned this and executed a horrific assassination of a journalist. and that's something that should not be tolerated by civilized society. >> bill: and i would expect you get to better explanation today. that would be one of your questions, correct? >> looking forward to it, right. >> bill: ron johnson, republican from wisconsin. have a good day. mike pompeo is up on the hill with james mattis. >> sandra: the war in yemen will be front and center. anything that comes up on the killing of jamal khashoggi will get a lot of attention. other big stories we're watching for you this morning. the taliban claiming responsibility for the single

deadliest attack on u.s. forces in afghanistan this year. we will have details on that next. plus this. >> all the layoffs from g.m., brutal, all right? very disappointing. will it affect the overall economy? i don't think so. >> bill: president trump and his team playing hardball with general motors shutting down five factories. maria bartiromo will tell us what we stand on that. >> sandra: the drama continues in the mueller investigation amid a blockbuster report about paul manafort. alberto gonzales will join us later in the show. >> the president has had robert mueller doing his job for the last two years and he could have taken action at any point and he hasn't. we'll let that speak for itself. he has no intent to do anything. watch me. ( ♪ )

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>> sandra: fox news alert.

the taliban claiming responsibility for the single deadliest attack against u.s. forces in afghanistan in over a year. three american troops killed and three others wounded in a roadside bombing 100 miles southwest of kabul. reaction from the white house. >> any time you have a loss of life, particularly by an american service member, it is a horrific tragedy. the president wants the make sure the battle we're fighting takes place there, not here. >> today's tragic events only drives home the need to support the men and women in our military and their families. >> sandra: the pentagon not releasing the names of the dead or wounded yet until their loved ones have been notified. >> it's a great disappointment obviously. the president indicated his own disappointment. there is disappointment that it seems like g.m. would rather build its electric cars in china rather than in the united

states. >> bill: white house economic advisor larry kudlow reacting to gm 's decision to close five factories and lay-off about 15,000 workers. justin trudeau had a conversation with the president yesterday on the phone because canada is one of the places where you can have a factory shut down in addition to michigan and ohio in the northeastern corner of ohio. an interesting part of the country when you think how well the president did in 2016 there. the tweet from justin trudeau. president trump and i had a good call to discuss gm, the auto industry and how best to support people affected on both sides of the border. we'll work to address continued trade barriers into the g20 summit this week. the g20 summit gets underway at the end of this week in argentina. one of many, many topics talked about there among world leaders in argentina. >> sandra: a root of a lot of the frustration as the

president said nothing being closed in mexico and china. the u.s. saved general motors and this is the thanks we get. you heard that frustration from the president obviously. a lot of the reference back to 2008 when general motors was the recipient of taxpayer subsidies. >> bill: the kudlow briefing yesterday was very interesting. it was very measured. it was very controlled. it is kind of the way we've come to expect larry kudlow. back to kudlow in the briefing room on what we do with the auto industry. listen. >> he believes, as frankly the prime minister of canada trudeau believes, that the usmca deal was a great help to the automobile industry and to auto workers. and by way they made those statements separately. and yet gm comes in right after the deal. >> bill: interesting comments, maria bartiromo anchor of sunday morning futures on the fox news channel. how are you doing?

what is in the white house quiver do you think on this? >> look, the president obviously likes loyalty and he feels that corporations who have gotten a bail-out from the u.s. government should be loyal to the u.s. government. you can argue that point but you know that the president is all about jobs and job creation. this is what he wants his legacy to be about. this is what he wants his presidency to be about. so he actually takes it personally when gm says it's closing down factories, it's closing down facilities and having to cut jobs, particularly after what we just came off of, the financial crisis where gm was on the brink. the entire auto industry was on the brink. had it not been for a bail-out from the u.s. government to revive these guys. after that huge bail-out and the incentives this company has gotten the president feels that they should not be cutting jobs in america and moving those jobs to china. having said that it is very

hard to argue because mary barra has a business. she has to operate her business the way she sees fit the geo of gm and has to answer to shareholders. while the president is upset she has to look at her business and best understand what works. >> bill: i thought the "wall street journal" interview with the president is interesting. he said gm is making a bad car, the chevy cruz. go to a different car. reopen a factory and get production going again. that's a critical part of northeastern ohio. watch that as well. meanwhile on china we'll get a lot of information this coming weekend when president trump sits down with the chinese leader. do you see this moving within days or weeks or do you view this as a month-to-month stand-off that could go some time? >> i think it can go for a long time, bill. i don't see it ending any time soon. having said that there is nothing priced into the market that we will see a deal. so anything could be up side potential. any conversation, anything where people feel they moved

the ball forward will be a positive in terms of this relationship. let's go back to the facts. china has been stealing intellectual property from the united states for decades. china has been forcing the transfer of technology from american businesses to chinese businesses for a decade. and china has been unwilling to open its market to foreign companies like american businesses who want a piece of that 1.4 billion person population. china is unwilling to open its markets. until we see fundamental change in china's behavior i don't see president trump making a move here. >> bill: my sense from listening to kudlow yesterday i think you're right about that. here it is on screen. he was talking about the fed, a number of other things. i have a gut. my gut tells me more sometimes than anybody else's brain can ever tell me. i think that summarizes the way he manages everything in the west wing. >> he does. his gut has worked for him, bill. i know it's a quote you laugh

at. gut versus somebody's brain. look at his gut in terms of going up against china. that was the right call. instead of focusing on jobs and going to places like ohio and michigan where hillary clinton did not. his gut was right. now, his gut was also right perhaps on the federal reserve. a lot of debate now whether the federal reserve is moving too fast in terms of interest rate hikes. i won't go against this president's gut. having said that, this is not ending any time soon. i don't know if tariffs are the answer to change china's behavior. thanks so much. >> bill: what's next? >> sandra: new details on what caused an indonesian airplane to crash into the sea minutes after taking flight. we're learning what happened in those final moments just ahead.

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>> bill: where was mark zuckerberg, you ask? that was the question as an international committee in london yesterday. you see that, sandra? an empty chair with a name tag. the facebook ceo represented there by the name tag after he did not appear before lawmakers from nine different countries. in his absence they interviewed facebook's vice president. they are under investigation in great britain in connection with the cambridge analytica user data scandal. that's the selfie of the day. >> sandra: it was really something. lawmakers took the opportunity to really, really take advantage of that moment to hit on what frustrates them most about facebook and mark zuckerberg. nine countries decided to tear into him in his absence there. that was a statement indeed. >> bill: company has some issues. they're working through them. we'll see how well they do over

time. >> sandra: two big events on capitol hill. we'll hear from house republicans at a press briefing. their first since the holidays, of course, that will be a big one to watch for. house democrats start voting on leadership roles in the next congress with nancy pelosi on track to return as house speaker. doug mcelway is live in washington with more on this. a lot coming up in the next couple hours, doug. >> the gop outlook has just about two weeks long in total, that's the duration of their majority. the brief period of time where they can attempt to wrap up investigations and pass what few pieces of legislation that seem within reach. chief among them is border security and paying for the president's border wall. >> we need to solve and have border security. we know since the house merging we have resources for that. we hope the senate will do the same. we have the farm bill to finish out. elements of the tax bill you saw come out with extenders and others to finish as well. there is work to be done. we have two more weeks to do it.

>> the house appears poised to pass the border wall funding bill. there are some devils in the details. seven spending bills expire on december 7th. one is the homeland security bill which contains border funding. the house may split off six bills not related to homeland security to try to get those funded and then deal with border funding after that. the big obstacle for funding of the border wall is the senate. democrats are looking at a much smaller amount of funding. >> the 1.6 billion dollars for border security negotiated by democrats and republicans is our position. we believe that is the right way to go. third, if there is any shutdown, it's on president trump's back. >> that last comment from schumer a reference to president trump's vow restated in a "politico" interview published this morning he is willing to shut down the government if the wall is not

fully funded. >> sandra: coming up in a little bit democrats have an important vote. >> they sure do. they meet behind closed doors today at noon to vote on leadership positions virtually no doubt that nancy pelosi will regain her position as speaker of the house. a bigger test, though, comes later in january where the full house votes on the speaker's job. but pelosi's ultimate victory even then not much in doubt. a faction of democrats are opposed to her leadership there are not enough of them to mount a serious challenge. back to you. >> bill: that debate over securing the border is heating up in a significant way. >> regardless how you feel about immigration policy you should at least agree we have laws and we're a nation of laws and we ought to be able to keep our country safe and make sure that the people that are waiting in line to come into america the legal way are respected. >> steve scalise. the president threatens to shut down the government over the

immigration issue. mike huckabee will address that. >> sandra: new numbers on illegal immigration. what we're now learning and we'll have more straight ahead. >> bill: we fell in love with sister jean during march madness. now she gets a very special gift from the students and school that love her in return. ♪ ♪ be my little good luck charm, you sweet delight ♪

>> bill: 9:32. check it out. it's christmastime in the city just about. the dow is up. you can buy a lot of wrapping paper with that. the fed will make a statement today. we found out last quarter we grew 3.5%. less than what the white house would like but pretty good number. 3 1/2% beats 2% for a long time. >> sandra: there is optimism now ahead of the president's trip. whether or not there will be a truce made with china. he has had some really tough

rhetoric that has led to some uncertainty in the markets and perhaps that optimism is leading to this gain we're seeing a couple minutes into trading. >> bill: this add ministration is trying to get a better deal with china. they're determined to change it. >> sandra: white house press secretary sarah sanders. >> does the white house regret the fact that children were affected by tear gas and that the situation took place? >> the white house would never want children to be in harm's way in any capacity whatsoever. however, that is why we're continuing to encourage people to follow the law and go to ports of entry. law enforcement officials have used appropriate, non-lethal force to protect themselves. tear gas was used on average once a month during the obama administration for similar circumstances. they were for far less circumstances because they didn't have the same numbers and the mass rush that we're

seeing in this caravan take place. certainly no one wants women or children or any individual to have this happen, which is why we've encouraged them to follow the law. >> sandra: that with a sarah sanders at her first briefing in almost a month defending the administration's handling of the situation on the southern border. mike huckabee is a fox news contributor and sarah sander's father. >> i watch with interest when i see the clips. the big difference is not the way the immigration at the border is being handled. the big difference is the way the news media is covering it. i'm not saying that to throw a rock at the media, but they're not. tear gas was used in 2013. there have been many times when there have been very strong pushbacks at the border. but this is the first time that we've heard anchors rip their clothes on national television and say america has never done this before. well, the truth is it was a

very civil way to make sure that someone didn't get truly hurt at the border. when you have thousands of people rushing the border throwing rocks and concrete chips. these aren't trick-or-treaters looking for knocking on the door and getting a piece of candy. these are folks that are conducting an invasion. >> sandra: sarah sanders in the briefing went on to state a statistic that dhs has since backed up with statistics. 126 times tear gas has been used since 2010. she used the statistic on average used once a month during the obama administration for what she said was very similar circumstances and in some cases less of a circumstance. >> did you ever hear any of the anchors or guests on the other networks during that period of time talk about how inhumane and awful and horrible it was? i don't ever recall hearing it even as having happened. >> sandra: let's go back to the briefing room yesterday. that was the first that the white house had had 20 days

after it had temporary lost his press pass. acosta, she had a back and forth with him. >> it went fine. i personally think and my advice to the president and the press secretary would be invite reporters from all over the country to come in and do these briefings. why always these same cast of characters? >> sandra: that's the way it's been done. >> exactly. donald trump has done everything differently than it's ever been done before. this is a great opportunity to do the press room differently. thousands of journalists across the country. most would love the opportunity to sit in the room and ask questions. i guarantee they would probably ask better, more thoughtful questions than some of the people preening for the cameras trying to make the story about what they said rather than the answer they got. >> sandra: meanwhile tensions are rising between russia and ukraine. a lot of demands on the president right now to get tough on russia. senator ron johnson was on this program earlier talking about vladimir putin testing the west.

listen. >> testing the west. he will see how we react. we must react with real strength and resolve. this is a huge provocation. ukraine has the right of navigation through the kerch strait and this is a provocation of russia, of putin. >> sandra: the latest we've heard from the president. i don't like that aggression he said in his most recent interview and now threatening to not have the meeting with vladimir putin over it. >> he is dead serious about cancelling the meeting when he threatened to cancel the meeting with kim jong-un before it was supposed to happen and things changed with the north koreans in terms of their attitude. i think the threat of the cancellation may change at least some things with putin and russia. but the president does need to be tough with him. i totally agree with senator johnson. this is no time to act like well, we'll just be nice to them. we've got to be tough with them. it's the only thing putin understands is toughness. there is nothing else he respects. >> sandra: now we're waiting on

the saudi briefing. mike pompeo, james mattis will be present there today. civil war in yemen up front. the killing of jamal khashoggi could and probably will come up. gina haspel, her absence. what do you make of that? >> what's particularly disconcerting about her absence it was the c.i.a. who said they had definitive proof that msb was the one involved or knew about it or maybe ordered it. i one hand there is some responsibility if that's where that information came from and they're the source, then the head of the c.i.a. probably should trot over and explain that. if they're not the source they should deny it and say we didn't say that. it's troubling. the biggest issue in the middle east is that there are really no great, pure players that are there and so it's a matter of lesser of evils. do we have to be stern and tough about the dismem berg of a journalist? of course we do. but at the same time you can't just completely cut all of ties

with saudi arabia because the imbalance of power tilts to the iranians and whatever we think of the saudis -- i'm not a big fan of them. not nearly as much as the president is. but the iranians, they are willing to kill women 20 years old in the streets and let the blood run down the sidewalk. >> sandra: fascinating to see that exchange in the press briefing room yesterday with ambassador bolton as well. thank you, governor mike huckabee. i didn't realize it was your first time in the fancy new digs. >> bill: studio j as in jazzy. a new report shows the new number of immigrants dropping to its lowest level in a decade. what do we learn from this pew research study? >> several takeaways from this study and others. the pew center says the number of illegal immigrants in the u.s. in the last decade fell from 12 million to just under

11. that's based on census data in 2016. economy coming out of the recession and doesn't fully reflect the surge of central americans. it says recent immigrants are such as likely to cross the border illegally as someone who over stays their visa. mexicans today only make up about half the illegal population. asians 22%, and 2/3 of the migrants have lived in the u.s. for 10 years or more. 43%, it says, have a u.s.-born child. >> we have for the first time a majority of those coming to the u.s./mexico border are not mexican. not single men. they are not just looking for work. >> so that pew study is nonpartisan but another study a few months ago put the number of the illegals in the u.s. at 16 to 22 million. not looking at just legal --

illegal but legal immigration as well. 2016 the highest single year of immigration in the u.s. in history, 1.75 million. mexico, india and china the highest sending countries. basically, bill, the bottom line is immigration is a moving target. we can look at all this data but it's very hard to get an accurate picture on everything when the data you are looking at is sometimes two years old. >> bill: interesting stuff. nice to see you from l.a. today. >> sandra: well, she may be the most famous nun that you've ever seen getting big recognition. sister jean got an nca final four ring after the march madness miracle run. she is 99 years old and a chaplain for the ramblers and the team's most beloved fan. that was a special moment. >> bill: who deserves it more than sister jean? she stole our hearts and drew

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>> we can only speak to what our role is in that process. not only has the president but the entire administration has been fully cooperative with the special counsel's office providing hours and hours of sit-downs as well as over four million pages in documents and continue to be cooperative but

we also know there was no collusion and we're ready for this to wrap up. >> bill: that was sarah sanders reacting to news that prosecutors claim paul manafort breached his agreement by lying to them. it suggests that manafort lawyer has been briefing trump attorneys, including rudy giuliani what manafort has been telling bob mueller. an intriguing story. alberto gonzales. welcome back. it's not illegal to share that information. what would be the great advantage for giuliani and the president to have those briefings by kevin downie who represents paul manafort. >> the advantage on two levels. one, of course, in response to the questions posed by the special counsel directly to the president. and having some information, whatever information or intelligence in terms of what the mueller team is aware of, i think is helpful. it doesn't necessarily mean that of course the president should not be truthful in response to the questions being posed to him but it may shade

his answers. some of his answers may not be so definitive. if there is knowledge about someone making a statement as to a certain set of facts and the president may not be sure about those facts he may qualify his answer to some degree. but as a general matter, i think the president is very worried about the investigation. and any kind of information his lawyers can get about the status of the investigation whether or not it imply indicates the president or his family, i think it's something that would be helpful to the president. >> bill: it's a very intriguing answer. right before thanksgiving we were told the written answers were submitted and they would know where mueller was headed if they've had contact with manafort's team. they would have a pretty good idea as to what direction he was going, right? >> they would have a better idea. in terms of whether or not a good idea, i think there are still some missing pieces here but they would certainly have a better idea and as i said, i think it might have made a difference in terms of how they

would fashion the president's answers to some of the questions posed by the special counsel. >> bill: what is your sense from there in tennessee? is mueller close? or is this just the biggest guessing game in washington now? >> i have no visibility into the mueller investigation. it's an extremely complicated investigation. obviously involving multiple parties with perhaps evidence in different countries. it is not surprising it would take some time. this obviously has to be done right. bob mueller understands that. everyone is looking at this. so he will make sure that everything is done properly and to the extent they make any kind of allegations or charges or any kind of indictment, they are going to have to have very solid proof and he understands that. >> bill: jerome corsi, affiliated with roger stone a former advisor to the trump team was with tucker last night. he seems defiant as to whether or not he will agree to

anything mueller's team asks him to say. listen to this. >> the special prosecutors blow you up, they do this what i call perjury trapped. rigged and politically driven by clinton operatives who have an agenda. if you can't give them what they're looking for to fill their narrative they blow you off and charge you with a crime. >> bill: what do you make of that? >> i disagree with it. i have to disagree with it as someone who once led the department of justice and we're talking about d.o.j. investigators and prosecutors. if that's what's going on here, i wholeheartedly condemn it but they have a job to do to get information from any potential witness. i think that's what they're trying to do here. but to intentionally set a perjury trap is something i disagree with. i think it's unfair and i think it's unprofessional. >> bill: we've heard that from a lot of people involved in this. >> that the mueller's team? >> bill: the perjury trap. giuliani talks about it all the

time. the president talks about it. if you can't give them what they're looking for they'll blow you off and charge you with a crime. >> that's the president's lawyer talking and they're trying to establish a narrative. >> bill: was corsi talking there. >> again, i have confidence in bob mueller and i have to have confidence in this investigation until proven otherwise. and i think if people are telling the truth, they will be fine. and that's the way i felt when i was the attorney general and that's the way i feel as a private citizen. if, in fact, the objective here is to get people to lie, to purposefully set perjury traps i do str a problem with that. >> bill: nice to have you here. tell the truth. >> sandra: we'll have more on this with former assistance u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy, our headliner today and will join us next hour. new findings on why an indonesian airplane went down moments after take-off.

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>> sandra: we're learning new details about the final moments of the indonesian plane crash that crashed shortly after take-off last month. investigators issuing a preliminary report saying it looks like faulty equipment was to blame. the lion air flight plunged into the java sea killing all 189 people on board. greg palkot is live in london for us. >> yeah, officials in indonesia are coming up with a preliminary report on the crash. it raises some important questions about a very popular aircraft. as you noted it was a lion air flight, a boeing 737 plane that crashed minutes after take-off.

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>> sandra: this is a fox news alert. house republicans holding a news conference any minute now as president trump threatens to shut down the government over that brewing border battle. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. we're full this hour. washington border wall funding is front and center. down at the border thousands of migrants now awaiting a chance to claim asylum with more arriving by the day. senator ron johnson last hour here on "america's newsroom" said this. >> the president certainly deserves to have better barriers funded. we have to recognize the fact that what we're seeing at the border right now is just a culmination of bad policy, loopholes, bad precedent that is incentivizing and rewarding people to come to this country illegally. >> bill: there is griff jenkins live again on the mexico side of the border. griff, good morning. >> good morning, bill. you mentioned new arrivals. let me show you here at the sports complex in tijuana just

up by the gates there about 4:30 this morning take a look at this video. this is 57 new migrants arriving this overcrowded shelter and we're getting new numbers from the tijuana municipal government. they tell us that 6,062 total are here in the sports complex. new add the 57 it's 6,119. they break it down into 3,877 are men. 1,127 are women and 1058 are children. that 6,000 plus does not include the 2000 believed to be two hours away. many of them may try to come here and there is no space for them. they are tired, they're restless and frustrated and disappointed it is not as easy to get into the u.s. as they once thought. we spoke to a delegate running the area saying he blames the organizers for perhaps giving them a false hope that it was going to be easy to get into

the u.s. to cross because it is costing the tijuana government here $30,000 to $40,000 a day to run it. that comes straight out of municipal funds which means ultimately they could be forced to even raise taxes here in tijuana. >> bill: thank you, griff jenkins live in mexico. >> sandra: one hour secretaries mattis and pompeo will speak at the senate briefing. the killing of jamal khashoggi will be one of the topics covered during the closed door meeting. lawmakers are wondering why the c.i.a. director won't be there. >> according to a number of senators they requested that haspel be there. the white house did not send her to that briefing. they would like to hear from her. this is also as the secretary of state mike pompeo, ahead of this meeting is defending the u.s./saudi relationship saying the october murder of saudi national jamal khashoggi in

turkey has heightened the capitol hill qatar walg and media pile on. degrading u.s./saudi ties would be a grave mistake for security of the u.s. and its allies. the u.s. does not condone khashoggi's murder and they'll consider additional punishment against the saudis if more facts about the murder surface. top republicans are urging the u.s. to go further. mitch mcconnell calls khashoggi's murder abhorrent and says some kind of response is in order as some congressional democrats and republicans are calling for more sanctions and even supporting a resolution to end u.s. military support for the saudi coalition in its war in yemen, sandra. >> sandra: president trump is now threatening to cancel this meeting with russian president vladimir putin at the g20 following that clash between russia and ukraine. what are you hearing more on this? >> in the "washington post" the president says that he is still waiting for a full report from his national security team on this incident where russia attacked a couple of ships,

three ukrainian ships, seized them and their crews. the president says the report will be very determinative and maybe he won't have the meeting with putin at the g20 this week. now the kremlin, according to russian state media is saying they're aware of that interview the president conducted in the "washington post" but that they are still planning and moving ahead with that meeting. that they haven't been notified that it is off. >> sandra: rich edson at the state department. >> bill: meanwhile president trump and the republican party pull off another victory late last night picking up a 53rd senate seat from mississippi. cindy hyde-smith wins against mike espy. want to bring in america's a-team. brad blakeman, jessica tarlov, and mary anastassia o'grady from the "wall street journal." welcome here. i hope you survive these two. they're killers over here. you are at 53 right now in the senate. feel good about that. does it change much?

>> not now. i think if anything it gives a real division to what is going to happen next year. either there will be hopeless gridlock or some deal making. democrats should take the advantage of a transactional president and make deals. >> bill: will you take that, jess? >> i hope so. people have been asking are you going to legislate or investigate. i say we can do both. he is a transactional president we've seen it with chuck schumer saying we can fund $1.6 billion for border security. i think democrats will seize upon it and 53 i'm not sure how different it is from 51 when you look at the makeup of the senate. mitt romney might be the new jeff flake in terms of waivering on more conservative issues. >> bill: it's a perfect setup for mary to be the arbiter on what can get done? >> let's not overstate this victory. this is mississippi. and it only turned into a runoff because there was a spoiler in the original first

election. this is a republican state. and i think that the fact that they won is okay, it's helpful but they already had the majority. i don't think it changes things that much. i also don't think it says that much about president trump's ability in this round. it's not like he pulled off a very narrow victory. in fact, if you look at what happened in florida, i think it's very worrisome when looking forward to 2020 why was the florida race so tight when that was for a long time -- >> bill: we'll wait on that. >> sandra: meanwhile. there is a lot of questions about what the president is willing to do over a government shutdown and funding for his border wall as we continue to see the immigration debate continue. republicans kicked off their first press conference since their return from the holidays. we'll see what comes out of that. meanwhile the president gave this exclusive interview to "politico". he said he would totally be willing to shut down the

government over border wall funding if democrats don't budge. do you support that sort of rhetoric on the potential shutdown from the president? >> the president has to use leverage. we're seeing a crisis play out before our eyes. the things that we're seeing on the border now happen every day they're just not covered. but the kind of invasion. that's a proper word. it is an invasion of people seeking to break our laws to get the benefits of our laws. >> bill: pause on that. a perfect setup for what's happening on the hill. paul written is taking questions. >> the house has funded the president's wall. the house is there. we've never been the issue here. our bill contains the president's full request for the border. ultimately the president and the senate democrats are going to have to come to agreement as well. as you know, this takes 60 votes in the senate. senate democrats have a say so in appropriation matters. i think what we'll have to do is sort it all out between all

the parties involved. i'm not going to negotiate to the press. that's a foolish thing to do. but we'll have to come together. i think hopefully after the election democrats realize a secure border should not be a republican or democrat thing. it is just good for the country to secure our border. the house is there. we hope the senate comes with us. >> should congress pursue any kind of formal sanction of saudi arabia for the killing of khashoggi or for its actions in yemen? >> i won't get into the yemen issue only to say iran bears a lot of responsibility. it is our national security interest to contain iran and their proxy wars and their pursuit of nuclear weapons. with the khashoggi case, it's very important i think we speak with moral clarity. real politics is very important

but real politics work if you do so from a position of moral clarity and holding people accountable. we need to do that. i won't get into the classified briefings. we've asked the administration to give a briefing to all members of congress and hope to get the administration to come in the next week or two to brief members on what our intelligence community knows about this case. that means there is more to find out and there is more to do and i'll leave it at that. i think for national security we need to stand up for our values and stand up for our interests and when you are practicing real politics you have to stand up for american interests and those two do not necessarily have to collide with one another. >> just following up on the wall question. based on your meeting with the president yesterday it sounds like he is very firm on -- [inaudible] could you provide us any suggestion of how we can bridge the gap? >> i don't think it's in our

interest to be negotiating through the media. we're talking about homeland security on what kind of resources they need to do what they need to do and our appropriateors have to sort this out with themselves and the white house and the senate which is the obstacle here. they take a 60-vote threshold. >> not on inside negotiations here but looking without, why not just approve a cr into next year and make the wall the democrats' problem? >> we still want to solve problems. we're elected to work for our constituents and solve problems. turn on the tv and we have a problem at the border. we want to secure our border. the house republicans have always wanted to secure the border. house republicans have been passing bills to secure our border. i would like to think that democrats would also want to join us in securing the border. especially after the election. >> bill: there it is. one of the rare times we've heard from paul ryan since the

mid-terms two weeks ago. it's interesting about the border issue here. do we think there can be a deal between chuck schumer -- they had a deal a year ago and he walked away from it. can that come back? >> some of the aspects of the deals were not palatable. the 1.6 billion that chuck schumer is proposing has divided democrats. some people see it as a concession to the president on his wall. chuck schumer made it clear it's about border security. we were whispering during the break. there is a difference between border wall and border security. democrats would be smart to be for border security. it is not the $25 billion that trump started out by asking for. i think it's a shrewd political move to give the 1.6 and seeing what the president does with it. >> well, i think that you have to keep in mind that this is a good issue for both the democrats and the republicans

in 2020. and that's why it's not being solved because they don't actually want it solved. i think that whether or not you have a wall or -- i agree that there is a difference between building a wall that sounds very much like the berlin wall and something that would enhance security. i think people are happy with security but that's not what is at issue here. what is at issue here is the democrats basically looking to their constituents who are going to vote for them and get them riled up come 2020. they want them on their side. if this problem is solved, if daca is solved, and the wall problem is solved, it is not than issue for them in 2020. i don't think they want it solved. >> sandra: every time you hear the democrats speak on this the president says democrats want open borders. paul ryan said all americans should want border security. how do both parties play this?

>> it's semantics. border security. we say a wall. listen to what paul ryan said. we are going to find out from homeland what they need. sounds to me incremental. incremental spending on the wall as needed is a win for both sides. if you look at it that way a deal can be made. there is not going to be an omnibus bill for $26 billion for 3,000 mile wall. incremental spending. spend as you go for what you need. >> bill: the president is winning on this piece by piece as he goes. >> the president suggested that in his "washington post" interview where he said well, maybe, you know, if we don't get a wall maybe there is a plan b and talked about razor wire. there are different ways to enhance border security without building a wall. >> bill: all this attention has gone to the tear gas happened because there was a point in the wall that was weakest and those who wanted to get in without filing for asylum knew that. lindsey graham talked about that and talked about a double

standard now that is being portrayed in the media. here is his reaction. >> when it comes to obama, when he uses tear gas he is protecting the country. the narrative is that trump is a cruel, heartless bastard only works if he uses tear gas on kids and it undercuts the argument that the obama administration used tear gas to protect our border from being overrun. i stand behind the men and women on the border standing between us and people who want to cross illegally. >> bill: you're a border patrol agent. you know what's coming on the other side of the border and tear gas is non-lethal. yeah, women and children involved, we never like to see it. it's ugly. what do you do as a border patrol agent and it's your job? >> you uphold the law and do your duty. it's a shame parents are putting their children in this position but the laws have to be upheld. it is avoidable. they shouldn't be here.

>> lindsey graham is complaining about the double standard but what feeds into that double standard is the way the president has talked about immigrants since he was in his initial campaign. so he has a reputation for basically defending the anti-immigrant stance of the republican party and -- >> bill: illegal immigrants. >> there is an issue with what happened with the rock throwing that a few rogue people ruined this for thousands of people who are coming here with legitimate claims. asylum seeking is their legal right and they can come and do that. to add onto that not just the rhetoric that start evidence when he came down the golden escalator but the child separation policy. $60 million lawsuit against government agencies because of the child who was in ice care in a detention center in texas who passed away from respiratory failure a couple months after that. that mother is suing the government.

>> bill: what are you saying? >> i'm saying that there are lawsuits now against the government for things that occurred because of trump's child separation policy which was not what president obama was doing. it's not just rhetoric, it is action. he has taken action against illegal immigrants. >> sandra: tear gas -- >> it was not a zero tolerance policy under obama. it was not the same policy. >> in the early years of the trump administration you said illegal immigration. he talked about we have too much legal immigration. he didn't want anyone coming here taking jobs from americans which is crazy. because we need -- >> bill: he campaigned on merit, that is what he was going to. >> he also talked about cutting down the size of legal immigration. so he has -- >> as it should be. we should only have people in here that we need and want. a lot of people want to come

here. need and want. >> we have 7 million open jobs, are you going to deliver pizzas and work in the fields? >> bill: i would do whatever it takes. thanks. stand by, panel two coming up. >> sandra: former trump campaign chairman paul manafort in hot water as the russia investigation continues. andrew mccarthy will weigh in on all of that. >> bill: gm is in the cross hairs for its planned cutbacks. the white house could take action in a moment. charles payne is next on deck and has been looking at this. >> there is disappointment that it seems like gm would rather build its electric cars in china rather than in the united states. we are going to be looking at certain subsidies regarding electric cars. i am a family man.

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political talking point now. >> general motors should be very worried about this. an hour ago bmw said the china tariffs haven't hurt us made s.u.v. sales not a bit. bmw says they're looking to open up another plant in the united states. how embarrassing for general motors. here is the deal. we know the cars aren't selling but it is not new. they haven't been selling for a long time. that press release yesterday we'll focus on electric vehicles and autonomous. of course you are. the industry has been involved in that for a half dozen years. we talked about that four or five years ago. >> sandra: you are saying this is mistakes that the company made. >> no doubt the company has made some magnificent mistakes and they kept trying to sell a product that nobody wanted and they've handled this whole thing in a clumsy manner. if i'm them, the cadillac sales are doing well. they want to bring out more cadillacs, more versions of the

cadillacs. that's doing well. retrofit the plants in ohio and other states or move those workers because there is demand. not only is there demand for vehicles in this country, but the premium vehicles, the ones that have fat profit margins. don't go to a foxhole. what you're doing is they're anticipating peak auto. in other words, they think this is it. we all bought a lot of cars in the last few years and we don't need anymore and they want to hold onto cash. a huge business mistake and huge p.r. mistake. >> sandra: "wall street journal" is weighing in on trumps gm collision. they write this morning mr. trump thinks his trade mass nations can overrule the realities of the marketplace but he says barack obama was about the climate and regulation. fine with us if he wants to end subsidies for all car companies but makes gm less competitive mr. trump will merely hurt more

workers. isn't that a fair point to be making? >> sure it is. i don't know that he is intervening. i don't think president trump is asking them to sell cars that nobody is going to buy. he asking them be honest and b, there are vehicles out there we're buying. again, they just had a record quarter last quarter. they set an all-time record for general motors. they made it up on things we were willing to pay big money for and the tax benefit from the trump tax plan. in that same period net income was $2.5 billion. a year earlier a loss of $3 billion. a year ago they paid $2.3 billion in taxes. this year $100 million. give and take a little bit here. >> bill: go back to kudlow. here is larry kudlow talking about the current state of affairs. here is kudlow. >> most observers believe china

to be in a slump whereas the united states is in a very strong, solid position going into this summit. however, again, to repeat, the president said there is a good possibility that we can make a deal. and he is open to it. >> bill: i don't know if they get a deal or not. i think the white house is not doing correctly not selling this story well enough. they're trying to do generational change for china and u.s. trade policy. >> i don't disagree. i think you're right. i think at the very beginning president trump should have went on national television and said listen. we'll try to right a wrong permeating for three or four decades. it won't perhaps happen overnight. i was at an event with american farmers last night. they're hurting. and by the way, the money that the trump administration gave them was a pittance. >> bill: you have to keep people on board. >> my point is for instance

when people say if we give farmers money it's like welfare. i tell people if my house is on fire and the fire department puts it out that's not welfare. if someone is mugging you in a parking lot and the police arrest that person it's not welfare. china is mugging american farmers. they are deliberately targeting them. america -- we need to rally around them. >> bill: can the white house win on this? >> of course we can. we are going to win this. the problem, though, is two things. what is victory in the eyes of president trump? and articulating a message that hey, this is a country that bought so much war bonds that we were able to win world war ii. people bought them because they thought it was the patriotic thing to do. >> sandra: there are some viewers didn't see when you were getting riled up there the glasses coming off. i get tweets, oh, the glasses are coming off. thank you, charles. >> bill: white house pushing back against the claims the

president will try to fire bob mueller. have a listen. >> look, i think the president has had robert mueller doing his job for the last two years and he could have taken action at any point and he hasn't. we'll let that speak for itself. he has no intention to do anything. >> bill: a new twist in the russia investigation, smitty, coming up. >> sandra: ivanka trump says it is time for the special counsel to wrap things up. former chief assistant u.s. attorney andy mccarthy will join us live next. newday usa has helped

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>> bill: there are new developments now putting paul maun fort back in the spotlight. the manafort team is sharing information with the trump team. andy mccarthy has analysis and first catherine herridge with the story. >> good morning. lawyers for president trump and paul manafort have what's called a joint defense agreement and that allows them to share information. investigators specifically weissmann have been pumping manafort for information about the june 2016 meeting on trump tower and whether president trump knew about the meeting in advance. they told special counsel have pressed manafort on the role of the president's son-in-law jared kushner. at the briefing yesterday the white house press secretary was asked about manafort and allegations he met with the head of wikileaks julian

assange. >> remain confident in the white house's assertion that the president was involved in no wrongdoing, was not part of any collusion. the things that have to do with mr. manafort i would refer you to his attorneys to address that. >> source close to the manafort defense team singled out prosecutor andrew weissmann alleging he has crossed the line pressuring manafort and asking the same questions repeatedly looking for different answers. the president's lawyer rudy giuliani says the president is upset with how manafort has been treated by being kept in solitaire confinement. important to note the special counsel's office hasn't been commenting on the play-by-play and reporting but earlier this year weissmann seemed to step away from the manafort prosecution in virginia after confirmation he met with four associated press reporters in the spring of 2016 over manafort evidence, bill. >> bill: thank you, catherine. we're learning more about the investigation of an associate

linked to former campaign aide roger stone, corsi. >> he is accused of lying to special counsel investigators over his contact with the head of wikileaks in the summer of 2016. the records document plea negotiations earlier this month with the special counsel and this long-time associate of roger stone, jerome corsi. corsi denies contact with assange as well as any foreign agents. >> have you ever had contact with russian intelligence or subverted the interests of your own country? >> absolutely not. i've been a loyal american. i have no contacts with russian intelligence. i have no business interests in russia. i have nothing to do with russia. i've never been to russia. >> he said the special counsel planned to charge him on an interview and statements he made during that interview that he was later allowed to amend after reviewing old emails. this is a tactic we've heard from other witnesses alleging this tactic was used against

them in the course of their dealings with the special counsel. >> bill: thank you catherine herridge setting the table for us in d.c. >> sandra: let's go to our headliner andrew mccarthy former assistant u.s. attorney. you were listening to catherine's report there. start first with paul manafort and where all this goes based on what we're learning today. >> sandra, what i get from all of this -- and i'm coming at this as somebody who has known and respected bob mueller and a number of the people on his staff who are very able lawyers. so i want to give this thing the benefit of the doubt. they were asked to look at -- get to the bottom of what russia did to interfere with the election, which is a worthy cause. but that's camouflage, it seems to me, for what has become a clown show. look, let's assume just for the moment on the last thing that catherine herridge was talking about that they got their big

wish, right? jerry corsi has a contact in wikileaks and he gets information from them, he gives it to roger stone, who gives it to president trump. let's assume all that happened even though they don't have facts that established that. it is not a crime. so what are they doing here? they're investigating the seemy underbelly of politics. the fact that campaigns try to get dirt on the opposition candidate. and they are asking a bunch of people involved in it possibly a bunch of uncomfortable questions and they're getting them to lie about it or else they are lying about it but the point is, the underlying thing that they're investigating is politics, not crime. and it is not a prosecutor's place to do that. so if you had a real case here, you would have somebody come in and say i was involved in this enterprise between the trump campaign and the kremlin. there was a hacking operation,

we were going to get these erjs mails and hold them and then put them out. then you have people in a serious federal crime. conspiracy to hack. they don't have that. what they have is somebody has unsavery information about our opponent and we'll try to put it out in a time that is maximal as far as the campaign is concerned. how are they investigating that? they are charging people with false statements. you are charging people with false statements because the underlying thing you are investigating is not a crime. >> bill: you say i do not subscribe to the conventional wisdom that mueller's final report is imminent. there are strong signs that the investigation is winding down but still rounds left to be played. we're all playing a guessing game on that. ivanka trump was asked earlier today and what she said about the mueller matter. >> i think it should reach its conclusion. i think it's been a long time. this has been ongoing.

but i want it to be done in a way in which nobody could question that it was hurried or rushed. i think after this long period of time whoever will be on that point. i think it absolutely should reach its conclusion. >> bill: the other thing she was asked about is about defending her use of email when she was making the transition from private life to the white house, here is how she explained that. >> there really is no equivalencesy. all of my emails that relate to any form of government work mainly scheduling, logistics and managing the fact that i have a home life and a work life are all part of the public record. they are all stored on the white house system. everything has been preserved. everything has been archived. >> bill: anything wrong there? >> well you are allowed to -- if you communicate about government business on your private system, on your private

email, you shouldn't initiate it by sending it but let's say you get government official business on your email. you need to store it in government files. if you do that and no classified information there is fine. when she says there is no he quif len see she is talking about the hillary clinton case. comparing hillary clinton to her case is like comparing bank robbery to jaywalking. clinton setup an outside the government network to systematically conduct her business in a way that was concealed from government record keeping and then when she was called on it she destroyed 30,000 emails and in the meantime she is in a high-ranking position where 80% of the work is classified. so that she had to know inevitably by setting up that system that classified information would be coursing through it. i just don't understand how you possibly compare one thing to the other. >> sandra: as we wrap this up

based on everything she said assuming it's true should it be a non-issue? >> well, it's obviously a political issue. trump made a big deal as he should have about mrs. clinton's email scandal and they should have used better judgment. if she was doing stuff on her private email, even if she was keeping it in the government system, legally she is fine. politically she is creating an issue and they're getting bruised by it. i don't think it's a big deal. >> bill: hillary clinton took her operation offline and ivanka trump -- >> and on purpose and systematically and bill, under circumstances where she was running a department and responsible for enforcing the rules that everybody is supposed to do their business on government email. >> bill: nice to have you with us. andy mccarthy. analysis of all matters legal. thank you. tensions are escalating between

russia and ukraine. the u.s. is in the middle of it. president trump may cancel his meeting with putin. our a-team is back with what the u.s. response should be coming up.

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not only between our by late ral relations but multi-laterally but the president is right and pragmatic. he sees the world as it is not the world he wishes it to be. we have yemen, syria, iran, the greater middle east. we must have a good relationship with the saudis and can't dictate >> bill: the saudis are helping us in iraq and iran. >> not unlike the immigration problem we were talking about before. it is the way the president presents it. he keeps saying that the reason we should stay close to saudi arabia is because we could sell them weapons and make a lot of money. that's not the reason. i think mike pompeo explained in the "wall street journal" what the reason is. they are an ally in a very dangerous neighborhood and we need them for that reason. and we are going to sanction them with respect to this whatever happened to this journalist. we don't approve of it. we're there because they are an ally and they are part of what we are doing to stabilize and

bring democracy. >> bill: you need saudi arabia. >> sandra: they're about to brief senators. gina haspel will not be there. it's a key part of this. >> it looks weird to people on both sides of the aisle. a lot of conversation about that yesterday why the decision got made and why would it be the case and ambassador bolton yesterday during the press briefing saying he didn't listen to the khashoggi tape. what use would it be? he doesn't speak arabic. the rhetoric coming out around this, the president still not saying definitively i know that mbs lied. i trust my c.i.a. more than i trust a rogue prince of the saudi kingdom. it is all disconcerting. we need our allies for sure. >> bill: the quote from pompeo. he wrote this. is it any coincidence the people using the khashoggi murder against president trump's saudi arabia policy are the same people who supported barack obama's approach with iran, a regime that has killed

thousands worldwide including hundreds of americans and brutalizes it's own people. >> you choose the side in the best interest of the united states putting america first and our allies. tough decisions with people who don't have our values. if we only dealt with people that had our values we wouldn't be dealing with many people. we need to use our influence to change these countries for the better. i don't think the journalist died in vain. i think there are positive changes in the relationship that we have but the greater relationship with the middle east. >> i think the president can get support for that but he needs to speak about it in those terms and not in terms of we'll make money off these military contracts. >> sandra: i keep hearing it's the way he is saying things and not what he is doing. his supporters are the first to say it's not about what he says but the actions he does. >> the u.s. is taking a leadership role in terms of

values in the region, right? if he is saying we don't care what people do as long as we can make a lot of money. that's not going to -- that's fine for his base. you say his base says look at what he does. but he is trying to bring other people along, okay? he is leading people. and in that role he needs to make the argument, the moral leadership argument, not the argument about making money. >> it signals to other rogue countries that are led by similar characters as saudi arabia and iran that i'm open for business literally. if you make a great arms deal with me and if we can wheel and deal on this. if you take saudi national with a green card into the turkish consulate and chop him up with a bone saw i'll look the other way. >> we haven't looked the other way. >> you heard president trump where he undermined the intelligence community and said we aren't sure. i know it's uncomfortable. >> it's not definitive by the

intelligence survey. it is more likely than not but it is not definitive. >> for example, if we want to get merkel to help us to punish putin, we need to make arguments -- moral arguments, not just say we'll make money off of things. we want to be moral. >> bill: we'll watch mattis and pompeo coming up at 11:00 a.m. >> sandra: are you feeling happy? maybe not after that conversation. but if you are, how will you feel tomorrow? there is now apparently technology in development that could let your smartphone predict your mood. is this a good idea? carley shimkus will join us next from our 24/7 crew. ♪ ♪ happy, happy, joy, joy come ay to the smartphone. ride hailing, car sharing, carpooling...

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♪ >> sandra: here is the question. do you want your smartphone to predict your mood? there could soon be an app for that. carley shimkus joins us now inside "america's newsroom." what do you think? >> well first of all i want to explain this a little bit. for people who suffer from

depression or panic attacks, imagine a world where your smartphone can sense that something is wrong and tell you in advance, even before you may experience those symptoms yourself. electrical engineer at m.i.t. is working with a psychology professor at harvard. they're saying you can predict mood and prevent future sad episodes that you may have. i see the good but -- some red flags. the first one is most people would agree we're already too attached to technology. should we really rely on it for emotional support? also, what if it's wrong and says hey, you are about to have a bad day or a panic attack? you spend all day worrying about it and it will never happen. it has to be 100% foolproof. >> sandra: you remember the mood ring? >> if it's blue or purple you aren't doing too well. there are good things about it, though. if you are doing something it always said after you do this,

you start to sense a trend and it may not make you feel good and it sends you the alert you might learn to avoid that sort of behavior so you can learn from this. the biggest red flag i thought about off the top of my head what about insurance companies? what if they get this information and they say all right, maybe we're not going to insure people for -- >> apple is getting into health more and more every time with each app they come out with. they're watching your heart rate. >> a fit bit for emotion but very personal. >> bill: i'm working on it. it's wednesday. thanks to sigh. president trump taking aim at gm threatening to cut all federal sub subsidies to gm. kevin hassett will be our guest on that next hour.

>> sandra: live look at capitol hill where james mattis to brief on policy issue like the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi. secretary pemmaraj pompeo is see questions from the reporters. the president threatening to cut all federal subsidies to general motors. welcome back to "america's

newsroom." >> bill: good morning i'm bill hemmer. the president trump threats slash 14,000 jobs mostly in the u.s. national economic council director larry kudlow is now considering about that. >> there's great disappointment there. there's disappointment that if seems like gm would rather build its electric cars in china rather than in the united states. we are going to be looking at certain subsidies regarding electric cars and others. there's a lot of disappointment. i've heard it from mr. trudeau and president trump and democrats and republicans. >> sandra: kevin, thank you for coming on this morning. everybody is talking about this general motors. what this means for the american consumer. what this means for the american worker. explain it to us.

>> reporter: i think this is the backdrop that's essential. we've got revised gdp today that was up 3.5%. gross domestic income was up 4% which is the fastest rate if four years. manufacturing jobs gone up 450,000 since president trump got started. there's a lot of positive momentum for american manufacturing. that break drop the folks that gm might be having trouble. if i were watching the company and thinking about -- i would want to ask the leadership what you're doing something that's different from every other manufacturing is doing now. >> sandra: it's really interesting. the very reaction that we have seen to this news. as we've heard the president really coming down on general motors for this move. the "wall street journal" editorial board fired back in this piece writing, mr. trump thinks his trade machination can overrule the realities of the

marketplace. he's wrong about the climate and regulation. it's fine if he wants to end subsidies. mr. trump will hurt more workers. what is the white house response to that sort of criticism? >> i think the white house response, we've set number of policies in place so manufactures to succeed in the u.s. lower tax rate, lower regulation and we seen the results. we got about 450,000 more manufacturing jobs. when you see specific company that's heading in a different direction, you have to wonder what's up with that company. why are they not able to keep up with the trends with everybody else. it's going to be when -- they will find why that company was having troubles.i haven't have a read out from that meeting.

the president is basically even outside of auto, he's got a general principle the government shouldn't be in position to picking winners and losers. definitely larry kudlow team is taking hard look at the subsidies that go to automakers and electric cars. >> sandra: so the president is being openly critical. we can move on now to the chairman of the federal reserve. saying i'm not little bit happy with my selection of jae. it's unheard criticism of a sitting president of the chairman of the federal reserve. he say, so far i'm not happy with my selection. i'm not blaming anybody but i'm just telling you i think the fed is way off base what they are doing. what is the president trying to say here? >> we at the white house absolutely respect the independence of the fed.

we've appointed really strong independent people. the president, people who support him expect him to speak his mind. he grew up in a sector when interest rates moved around, he knew what would happen in the market. we will to agree he saw movements in the real estate data that i was showing him, he's been living in that space his whole life. he look at past interest rates and think about the economic effects, he's worried about it. the president speaks his mind. that's what he does. he is no way impending on the independence. >> sandra: it is unprecedented. lou look at -- you look at the words of the president and the post. i'm doing deal and i'm not accommodated by the fed. do the president expect an

accommodation by the federal reserve? >> he's speaking his mind. any decision maker in economic policy should gather evidence from people who know what they are talking about. he's adding his voice. >> sandra: meanwhile, looking at the dow today. half way through the week, dow sun triple digits. we've seen lot of seesaw change. there's some optimism in the market despite the rhetoric of the president on trade that perhaps something can get done here on china? >> the a-team is going with the president. the president is man who wrote the art of the deal. he's having a working dinner with president xi and secretary mnuchin will be there and ready to move forward quickly if progress is made. make no mistake, there's lot of movement that has to happen in

order for progress. other thing, if you look at the economic data, there's slow down in the chinese data. there's a slow down in the european data. the u.s. data is trucking along. i think that equity markets has been little bit more negative about the economic outlook in the u.s. strong gdp number today is another reason why we're seeing positive movement. >> sandra: positive movement and optimism. some of that optimism is coming from larry kudlow in that briefing yesterday describing the dinner meeting with president trump and xi as an opportunity for a break through on trade. do you feel like this morning you need to manage expectations little? that really sets the bar high for that upcoming meeting. >> final thought is that, i've always thought from the beginning a deal with china is possible. in the end, the person who makes that deal is going to have to be

president trump. president trump is having din we are president xi, is a very promising sign. that's where a deal has to start. >> sandra: good stuff. thank you very much. kevin hassett thank you very much. >> bill: more people seeking asylum in u.s. jeff, allow is it going today? what's changed? >> reporter: good morning. the situation here for the migrants at the the main shelter here in tijuana is getting difficult. city officials here tell us they're worried that resources and money will soon be running scarce and there are hundreds and hundreds more migrants arriving by the day. this is video we shot yesterday. some of those migrants about 200 arriving from central america and they're expecting hundreds more in the coming days.

city officials tell us a total of 6000 people now live at this shelter. those resources are running thinner by the day. we speak with one of those migrants about his future moving forward and asked how he's staying positive. take a listen. have you thought about giving up and going back home? >> no. i haven't. >> reporter: why not? >> now we come this long way. we're here just like waiting. we have to be patient. >> reporter: while some are deciding to say dozens and dozens others made the deal decision to leave and go back to central america. take a look at this video. this is one family that's being helped by one of those nongovernmently organizations. they are packing them up and they're getting them on a bus or plane and returning home to the

country they came from. only other option is for folks to get stay in tijuana. >> sandra: investigators getting a clear picture what happened inside that deadly thousand oaks bar shooting. what we're now learning about the rampage that killed 12 people and why it could have been worse. >> bill: will putin and trump meet? that meeting is still on despite suggestion from the white house. that topic is coming up next with adam kinzinger. first mike huckabee. >> it may change things with mew tin and -- putin and russia. this is no time to act like, we're going to just be nice to them. i tried cold turkey, i tried the patch. they didn't work for me.

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>> bill: new details emerging from that deadly mass shooting in thousand oaks, california. authority have not determined the motive. ian long used a 45 caliber glock when he entered the bar and killed a dozen people before killing himself. police say long could have killed many more. they say he had 150 bullets left to fire but he stopped shooting in order to ambush arriving officers on the scene. >> sandra: the kremlin saying saturday trump and putin meeting

is still on. president trump said he's considering canceling those talks after russia seized ukrainian ships in the black sea. the president telling the "washington post," maybe i won't even have the meeting. i don't like that aggression, i don't want that aggression. joining me now is illinois congressman adam kinzinger of the house foreign affairs committee. thanks for coming on this morning. what do you think about the way the president is responding here now threatening to not even meet with vladimir putin over these rising tensions? >> i think it's good so far. i won't be terribly upset if he doesn't cancel the meeting. i think he should. he has to be very cautious to go into this. in -- not trying to be putin's friend. this is an opportunity to make it go strongly. making it clear that the power that the united states has

comparing the fact that russia is not the old soviet union and they're declining economy, declining population with a military that got shot down, lost a plane by bashar al-assad, got shot down by the turks and lost 200 mercenaries. this is not our equal. the president has a lot of leverage. >> sandra: that is one way to show that he doesn't like the aggression coming from russia. the president that is. is there another way, the president of ukraine has given this interview and he is asking president trump to deliver a pointed message to putin. what more could president trump do to show that? >> i think remind putin what he's done. this is one of the more hawkish administrations against the russians in a long time. president obama basically gave blankets to the ukrainian army. president trump authorized lethal aid. i think partnerships with

national guard or the united states military to help train the ukrainian military. places like georgia, like ukraine and eastern europe are allies and we will stand with them. if you're a nato partner, we'll defend you with article five. if you're an associated partner, we'll do everything they can to train your military and defend yourself. there has to be a cost to vladimir putin for his aggression. maybe if we have the ability to right now ships in the black sea to make it clear. >> sandra: senator ron johnson said this. >> this is a situation where vladimir putin, he sees results of the u.s. election and macron and merkel and british prime minster as well he's testing the west. we must react with real strength. >> sandra: the president will be meeting with a number of world leaders from argentina, china,

south korea, japan. what do you expect to come out of this g20? >> i think it will be a good opportunity for the president to say on the area of the economy, we're going to defend our trading rights. we're fair traders. we have to be treated with the same respect. talking about partnerships with these nations whether it's fighting narco terrorism, actual terrorism whether it's pushing back against russian aggression, strengthening our partnerships and saying there's a cost to this partnership. that's important for nato to recognize. countries like germany that's been significantly less on their gdp on their military than what they promised. sending that tough message may not make people all happy because they like an america that do whatever you want. we're going to be here anyway. i think the president in correct saying, you have to carry your share of the bargain. >> sandra: meanwhile, take moment to now and we are told now that secretary mattis and

pompeo have arrived on capitol hill. they'll be giving briefing to all the senators. obviously yes me yemen is big ts and killing of columnist jamal khashoggi. this is a very important briefing that's about to begin. your examination examination --r examinatioexpectations there? >> but the reality is, this was a terrible act by the saudis. when you compare what is done everywhere in the middle east, you cannot fundamentally shift your alliances on that basis. it's a terrible thing. by the way, iran, syria, russia, there's 500,000 dead syrians now and 50,000 which are children because of that evil in syria. >> sandra: what's the absence of cia director gene haspel tell

you. she will not be there? >> i don't know what it means. maybe she doesn't want to be. having pompeo and mattis there, they will get all the analogouses that the -- answers that the administration will give. but the reality is, we cannot fundamentally shift our alliance because if you go away from saudi arabia, you're going to iran. i can point to a thousand things they've done that are ten times worse anything saudi arabia has. >> sandra: all 100 senators are about to be briefed. thank you very much. >> bill: this was a taliban claiming responsibility for the deadliest attack on u.s. forces. so far this year in afghanistan. the chances for peace in that country might be slipping away. live to pentagon. >> sandra: president trump's legal team getting information from paul manafort's lawyer after he signed that plea deal? where do the mueller probe goes

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united states for its sacrifice and announced plans for a new round of peace talks with the taliban. >> as the saying goes, we have been building a house and we're putting out the fire. it's taking a huge toll. making peace and security our top national competitor. >> reporter: in addition to the three u.s. troops killed, three others were wounded as well as an american contractor a axen elite army rangers was killed in southwest afghanistan near the border. his coffin landed at dover air force base monday. he was killed during his third combat deployment to afghanistan. the attack followed a deadly bombing last week that left more than 50 afghan muslim religious leaders dead in kabul. the name of the three americans killed will be released later today.

>> bill: seems like wherever they're moving toward peace talks the taliban steps up the attack. is that your impression. >> reporter: absolutely. the timing of these attacks is related to efforts to end the fighting. former u.n. ambassador has been meeting with taliban leaders trying to lay the ground work for peace talks. the taliban launched attacks overnight in kandahar as well. >> it's a different afghanistan. we're open for business, i hope you're open for partnership. >> the united states will continue to be a strong partner of everyone in afghanistan whether it's inside government or outside government. >> reporter: it's important to remember, 79 american troops have been wounded in afghanistan this year. many of those are life altering injuries. >> bill: thank you if from the pentagon there. tough story. >> sandra: the border battle

intensifying, president trump now saying he would be willing to shut down the government over funding for the border wall if democrats don't budge. our very own bret baier will be here live to weigh in. >> bill: the president's national security team at the moment briefing senators behind closed doors on critical overseas issues. what lawmakers are learn about the murder of the journalist jamal khashoggi and a lot more coming up. >> we have to maintain good relations with saudi arabia. the killing of khashoggi does not make that easier.

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>> sandra: fox news alert. defense secretary james mattis and secretary of state mike pompeo. minutes from now secretary pompeo will be taking questions from reporters.

rich, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. some of the senators say they want more punishment for the saudi government and saudis over the murder of jamal khashoggi. some are saying they want the united states to end its support for the saudi backer, saudi will have led coalition in the fighting in yemen. secretary of state mike pompeo is deafing that. -- defending that. he said this conflict isn't optional for saudi arabia and abandoning it puts american interest at risk. what would happen if the u.s. withdrew from the yemen effort? guess what, the war wouldn't end. the united states called the war the worst humanitarian cries of our time. three quarters of the population in need of assistance. the saudi coalition is fighting iranian backed hooties.

writing in the "wall street journal" today, the secretary says the u.s. does not condone khashoggi's murder and that the trump administration will consider additional punishment against the saudis if more facts about khashoggi's murder surface. mitch mcconnell said khashoggi's murder is abhorrent and says that some kind of response is in order. cia detector gina haspel went to turkey for a briefing into the khashoggi murder. she is not scheduled to be at the senate briefing. bob corker said he informed the white house it would be beneficial to have her there. this ongoing briefing happened just a couple of days after russia attacked and seized three ukrainian ships and their crews. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: lot of take in there. let's bring on bret baier. good morning. >> good morning to you. >> bill: pompeo and mattis are the a-team.

despite gina haspel not being there. how do you think this will go? >> i think he's right that as far as the foreign policy team, the president and his administration look to pompeo and mattis as kind of their front-line in discussing some of the details and nuance foreign policy decisions the administration makes. this one is difficult with the khashoggi murder and also the situation in yemen. i think the secretary of state's op ed in the "wall street journal" that rich referenced was pretty strong when it comes to defending the decision by the president to stay in the saudi column and not let influence from russia or china takes over. it gets pointed. is it any coincidence the people using the khashoggi murder against president trump and saudi arabia are the same people who supported barack obama.

regime killed thousands worldwide including hundreds of americans and they were essentially giving them cash. that's pretty pointed for secretary of state. >> bill: indeed. let's see how this goes. we'll see some folks about 12:0. on the issue of border security, you know what the president laid down in that political article today. he said, i want the money. ron johnson was with us earlier today. he said easier said than done. listen to what he had to say on that. >> you really can't shut the government down. we funded 70% of the appropriated acts. if we don't pass a appropriation bill, that will be essential for national security. spending will still keep going forward. listen, there's certain things that would not be funded. it's very difficult to shut down the government. >> bill: house still has $5 billion in funding. the senate bill has about $1.5 billion. is there room to move on this?

>> it was interesting the development of those interviews. he did the "washington post" first and then he talked to politico after that. couple of print interviews back-to-back which is interesting. had kind of evolved about his stance on shutting down the government. senator johnson is right. much of the spending bills are already through. the largest percentage, chunk of change that the government deals with. you're still dealing with seven bills but it's a smaller percentage of the big pie. it will cause heart burn. the president may get there on this front if he thinks that house republicans want to make a last stand on the border fight. >> bill: we'll watch that. you mentioned "washington post" interview. here's the quote i pulled for you. he was talking about the fed. it says so much more this quote. he says i'm doing deals and i'm not being accommodated by the

fed. i have a gut. my gut tells me more times. that pretty much summarizes the way he looks at his role as commander in chief. would you not agree? >> totally agree. it's the way he run his businesses. it's the way that he approached the media through the campaign. it's the way he deals day-to-day. he deals with his gut instinct. lot of times when he hits something on a marketing kind of perspective with his gut, he understands where to hit it and what influence it makes and it makes a big splash. he's very good at that. obviously there have been times on twitter and different decisions that maybe there was other input that was needed prior to making that call. he does do lot of things with his gut. his gut is telling him that the fed is undermining his economic recovery. interesting to hear president

say that. >> bill: he's doing so many interviews. obama, bush, clinton, they never talked this much. this is clearly his strategy to get a message out on a daily basis. we show up for work, it's like here's another one and here's another story. >> he's his best messenger. i don't think he's wrong which. -- there. he can advocate what he's thinking. the last interview is always the news. it's are the latest of his thinking. which sometimes as you see, evolves from interview to interview. >> bill: nice to see you. >> sandra: meanwhile fox news alert. as we await results of the house democratic caucus vote on their choice for next speaker. those votes are now being counted behind closed doors.

mike emmanuel live with more on this. where do things stand with house democrats? >> good morning. nancy pelosi sent her democratic colleagues a letter last night issuing this call. saying the public has entrusted us to save our democracy. it is our patriotic duty to deliver more bipartisan and unified government for the people. i respectfully ask for your vote for speaker of the house of representative. steny hoyer is the next majority leader and jim clyburn as the next whip. most work -- pelosi as worked to bring around some of her critics. >> i feel good about today. the caucus is coming together very well. we are as usual, after an election, we'll regroup.

>> reporter: pelosi staff has been e-mailing out as democratic members declare they will support nancy pelosi for speaker. >> sandra: what are republicans saying as they watch democrats choose their leader? >> reporter: they're letting democrats sort it out. they're focused on the must do items before congress can leave town. no surprise lot of that focus is on funding for the border wall. >> bill: z after the election, democrats realize secure border should not be a republican thing. it's good for the country to actually secure our border. the house is there. we hope senate comes with us. >> reporter: the house passed $5 billion in border security money. senate democrats are offering $1.6 billion so far. >> sandra: mike emmanuel, thank you. >> bill: there was a lot of news surrounding paul manafort and his legal team sharing legal team sharing information with trump lawyer's after manafort signed a plea deal. where does the russian

investigation goes next. >> they were asked do look at -- get to the bottom what russia did to interfear with the election. that's camouflage it seems to me what has become a clown show. er, because i know so many of you have served our country honorably. one of the benefits that we as a country give you as a veteran is the eligibility for a va loan for up to 100% of your home's value. if you need cash for your family, call newday usa. with automatic authority from the va, we can say yes when banks say no. give us a call. call now: 1-855-376-1361.

>> bill: little boy is from the vatican. the child who is hearing-impaired climbed on to the stage and played around with the pope's chair. that's cool. pope francis checking out the car too. pope francis explaining to the crowd the boy had speech hearing problems but knows how to express himself. he did. the child preaches to all of us. >> sandra: he stole the show. >> bill: i like that. >> sandra: good stuff. "new york times" reporting a lawyer for paul manafort has been repeatedly briefed the

president's lawyers on pau -- paul manafort's talks. this we're learning after manafort agreed to a plea deal with special counsel robert mueller. tom dupree join us now. we can only go off what we are reading in this report about manafort attorney relaying information to trump's lawyers. i can ask what you think of it? >> this is very surprising to me. typically when you have a situation like this where you have a defendant who has agreed to cooperate with the prosecutors, you wouldn't at the same time, have that defendant's lawyer briefing other people involved in the investigation as to their client is asked. under normal circumstances, if manafort was charged and there was a an agreement in place, this would not be so unusual. but the fact he agreed to cooperate with mueller and is now briefing the president makes it very unusual.

>> sandra: we should get that out there. i pull up john roberts his lei reporting on this. during the course of the -- sorry, john roberts guidance is that trump and manafort's legal teams did have an information sharing agreement and that this would not be uncommon. final thoughts on that. >> i agree with not be uncommon before manafort agreed to cooperate. what make this uncommon is they are continuing to exchange information after manafort agreed to cooperate with bob mueller. >> sandra: it's interesting stuff. this is as we broadly speaking, continue to watch this entire mueller probe play out. you got people coming in from all angles. we've been talking about a long time. when does this thing wrap? >> i hope we are in the home

stretch at this point. no one in america wants to see this extend like iran contra did for about a decade. i suspect is mueller is approaching the end. as w. the last pieces of the puzzle was to get information directly from the many of the. he has that. he written answers written by the president. he may want to question the president personally. when you're asking questions directly, that signifies you're at the end of the chain of possible people whom you need to speak. >> sandra: we'll see. alberto gonzalez joined us on "america's newsroom" earlier and said this. >> having some information, whatever information intelligence in terms what the mueller team is aware of, it's helpful. it doesn't necessarily mean that the president should not be truthful in response to the questions. if there's knowledge about someone making a statement as to certain set of fact and the president may not sure about the

facts, he may qualify his answers to some degree. >> sandra: what do you think there? >> i think it's accurate. in other words, getting information about what mueller is asking witnesses about, getting information about what evidence mueller already has in his possession is valuable. if you are a witness. when you go in and you either submit written answers or you have a face to face with mueller if you know what the prosecutor knows and if you know what the prosecutor is interested in it can be immensely helpful. that is why trump information is very valuable to trump and it is also why i can't imagine mueller like this. now he knows that trump knows the information that he's got. >> sandra: that's really interesting. do you think that would change the course of his investigation knowing that? >> it could. it's a minimum would make him guarded and cautious about the questions his team is asking witnesses if they think those questions are going to be passed along to the white house. it would make them hesitant to

show they have. to show they have access to a particular document or they know some piece of information. if they ask a witness a question, it's possible other witnesses will know. >> sandra: have you ruled out there could still be a sit down with the president and robert mueller? >> i have not ruled that out. if you're a prosecutor, getting written answers is not sufficient. you want the chance to cross examine the witness. you want to confront him with documents up. to push little bit. that's normally what a prosecutor would do. this is not a normal case. it's possible mueller will be satisfied with getting just written answers from the president. in ordinary court, mueller want to get a sit down. >> sandra: tom dupree, good to have you here. >> bill: he little preview for

outnumbered. >> nine days left to fund the government. the big sticking point, the border wall. the president suggesting a plan b if congress won't give him the funding. layer, saying it's $5 billion a bust. democrats not closer to that number at all. we'll debate the winners and losers and the battle. after big controversy between the battle and white house and things were tamed. whether this is a sign of things to come or just a calm before the storm >> here's a sign there's going to be a guy in the middle. we'll talk to him and his name is -- "outnumbered" top of the hour. >> bill: thank you ladies. we have breaking news now on that plane crash that killed 189 people. we have better idea what the pilots were doing moments before

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>> sandra: as we wait secretary of state mike pompeo, he and defense secretary james mattis holding a closed door briefing with the full senate on critical foreign policy issues such as the jamal khashoggi murder. secretary pompeo set to take questionquestions from reporter. we're ready for that. we'll bring in to you live when it begins. >> bill: new details emerging on that deadly plane crash that claimed 189 people a month ago. investigators releasing a report saying the plane was not airworthy. day before it went down. >> reporter: it is disturbing new report about last month

indonesia crash, raising serious question about a popular aircraft. boeing 737 crashed into the sea after departing capital of jakarta. after expectations of the back box data, the conclusion reached by the authorities the combination of airline maintenance, pilot training and a possible faulty anti-stalled safety system. the statement plane had the same problems the day before in that case, the crew was able to override that system. this crew tried to override but didn't. search teams had based all this on a flight data recorder. they haven't found the cockpit voice recorder. that can provide more clues like how big a role this faulty system design of the plane had. that is significant. this plane is the latest version of the boeing 737. which is hugely popular around

the world including many u.s. airlines. boeing said it is safe but they are looking at modifications and right now, they're looking at couple of lawsuits. >> bill: thank you greg. latest from london. >> sandra: in a few moments secretary of state mike pompeo will be speaking to reporters after that briefing on capitol hill. that news conference is set to begin in moments. in baltimore, a community sees new life rise from ruin. in southern california, a small family business becomes a beacon of hope. in seattle, people with disabilities create success and shatter barriers. day in, day out, people prove that when we work as one, we have the power to create better futures for us all.

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powerful force in the middle east breed saudi arabia is working to secure iraq failed democracy and keep baghdad tethered to the west. not to run." he suggesting on no uncertain terms that we may not like the neighborhood but we might after the find other friends and they are standing by saudi arabia. >> melissa: we are awaiting secretary pompeo holding that briefing with secretary mattis. we know that all senators are being briefed, as you just heard. senator coons, he was left unsatisfied from that meeting. we could hear from some or senators as they walk out that briefing, but we are told that mike pompeo will be taking questions from reporters as well. obviously, we will want to hear anything that came up in that room. on jamaal khashoggi from his murder, yum! it is a key topic, and possibly much more including ukraine. >> bill: he partly told senators the u.s. interest in this first mission is to counter iran's regional ambitions. with regard to yemen, sandra, do you think it's time to abandon

the role we played? in here to tell you that is a bad call. there was part of the message that was delivered to the senators. >> sandra: the camera and the microphone, certainly we will be hearing from secretary pompeo shortly. that continued coverage will be happening on speethirty five. thing's for joining us here at america's newsroom. good to be with you. we will see you here tomorrow morning. outnumbered speethirty five sta. >> melissa: fox news alert as bill and sandra just mentioned, we are waiting for marks of secretary of state pompeo. is there a microphone to see right there. following his briefing of the full senate. pompeo and defense secretary james mattis updating senators on u.s.-saudi relations, and the killing of jamaal khashoggi. a bipartisan group of lawmakers is pushing for stronger u.s. response to the murder of "the washington post" columnist. we are monitoring this, we will bring you any updates as it happens.