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alternative. how cute. he would rather freeze than enter trump tower. i just couldn't resist. here's my advice. since you've been operating in an alternative universe for years, they should be easy for you. try the russian tea room, maybe we'll finally find find your collusion. that's all the time we have tonight. up next, shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team take it from here. >> shannon: thank you so much. with a copywriter in the studio. stop by anytime. we begin with a fox news alert. right now police are negotiating the surrender of actor jesse small it, facing disorderly conduct charges and perhaps more from the chicago police department that not believe the empire star orchestrated his own phony attack and try to pin it on from supporters. breaking news on that straight ahead and tonight, lawyers for a 16-year-old catholic high school student are laying out the case against the dash singly falsely for state tomei portrayed him as
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a racist and worse. analysis from alan dershowitz and kentucky governor matt devon. and as the mueller probe actually winding down? as we await word, is the media getting fired fbi official andrew mccabe pass? kristin fisher and brit hume are standing by. i'm shannon bream in washington. with the jussie smollett investigation a trip on mycommands where applicable with a straight to mike. >> well, jussie smollett went from star to suspect in just a matter of weeks. charged with disorderly conduct, a felony, his legal team is issued a statement, it reads as follows "great like any other citizen he enjoys the resumption of innocence, particularly when there has been an investigation like this one where information both true and false has been repeatedly leaked. giving the circumstances we contend to conduct our thorough investigation and mount an aggressive defense.
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the brothers once considered potential suspects testify for two and a half hours before a grand jury today. their attorneys as they were paid but the payment does not fit the narrative we know publicly. she said the brothers are speaking to investigators because they determined the truth needs to come out. >> there was never a change of heart. there was a point where this story needed to be told and they manned up and they said, you know what, we are to correct it. so plea deal, immunity, all of that, they don't care about tha that. >> gloria schmidt says he must have trouble sleeping tonight and needs to come clean. police say they are in contact with jussie smollett's legal team to try to negotiate a reasonable surrender. he has got a bond hearing tomorrow at 11:30 local time, i should say 1:30 local time. >> shannon: we know you're on it. thank you very much working around-the-clock. clock. also tonight, breaking news on an active member of the
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coast guard charged to serve and protect the u.s. now it would be domestic terrorists allegedly. charged with a terrible plot to commit multiple murders of high-profile targets. jennifer griffin has the very latest. jennifer. >> shannon come the details in this affidavit are chilling. federal prosecutors say they arrested an active duty coast guard lieutenant, christopher paul, who allegedly planned to kill top democratic lawmakers and media personalities. he described himself as a white nationalist who wanted to establish a white homeland and said i'm dreaming of a way to kill almost every last person on earth. the affidavit provides shocking details. the defendant intends to murder innocent civilians on a scale rarely seen in this country. he must be detained pending trial. the fbi raided his cramped silver spring, maryland, department where they found a cache of guns and evidence that he was targeting prominent politicians and tv personalities from msnbc and cnn. who he called traders. the lieutenant had a spreadsheet
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of targets. those individuals included joey, who most likely is joe scarborough of msnbc based on his computer searches. chris hayes from msnbc. senator richard blumenthal, house speaker nancy pelosi, senators tim kaine, chuck schumer, kirsten gillibrand, elizabeth warren, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. senator cory booker among others. prosecutors say this coast guard lieutenant, for they describe as a domestic terrorist wrote about biological weapons attacks and had a hit list. he is slated to appear in a maryland court on thursday. prosecutors are seeing these charges are the "proverbial tip of the iceberg. shannon. >> shannon: 21 months after it began the special counsel's rush investigation is drawing to a close, many single the president's critics are going to be very disappointed. kristin fisher is here tonight. >> there are reports that the --
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simple. easy. awesome. xfinity, the future of awesome. >> shannon: we had a bit of technical difficulties but we want to get back to some of our top news because there are fresh indications that more than 21 months after it began, the special counsel's rush investigation is drawing to a close. now many say the presidents critics are actually going to be disappointed. kristin fisher is joining us tonight with what the president has to say about this whole thing. >> so there are reports right now that the special counsel's report could be released as early as next week. the same time that president trump is in vietnam for his second summit with north korean leader kim john. president trump was asked about that possibility earlier today at the white house. here's what he said. >> that will be totally up to the new attorney general. he a tremendous man, a tremendous person who really respects this country and respects the justice department so that will be totally up to
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him. the new attorney general. >> but tonight the former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe warned again, rushing to say the release of the special counsel's revolt is imminent. >> i think we still like to wait and see when it shows up. >> he is continuing to promote his new book in interviews and the president is continuing to criticize him. even from the oval office while sitting beside the chancellor of austria. >> i think andrew mccabe has made a fool out of himself over the last couple of days. and he really looks to me and what sort of a poor man's j. edgar hoover. i think it's a disaster. >> while mccabe thinks president trump could be a russian asset. >> do you think is compromise? >> i think a certain plot, certainly possible. that was our concern and may have 2017. i haven't seen anything since then that would warn me off of that possibility. >> breaking type house oversight committee says that michael cohen will finally testify
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publicly on february 27th, listening to his president trump's phone day in vietnam. >> shannon: a very busy news week. thank you. for more on some of tonight's top stories, top nursing a political analyst brit hume joins us. great to have you with us. >> thank you, shannon. glad to do it. >> shannon: i want to go back to the story where we got a lot of breaking news on this actor jussie smollett. a lock has been made about what we do know and what we don't know in this case but there's been this big discussion about this idea of victimhood and how it's become very attractive to a lot of people out there. i want to read something from jason many. the author of the rise of victim culture. quoted in the national review article saying this. perpetrators might not even think of them as false accusations because in many cases they see it as an attempt to draw attention to a real problem. to the extent that modern society increasingly valorize his victimhood claiming victim status throughout light lies will become more attractive. what you make of that?
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>> i think that might be -- we don't know what was in young mr. smollett's mind and heart in this case. we do know of course he's gone for many to a suspect and is now clearly firmly under investigation for filing a false police report. and i do think it's possible that someone who has so much going for him in life had to have some powerful motivation to make an attempt something is risky as this scheme, if that's what it turns out to have been. and i think that a deal that you are making an application for victimhood, which can be a pretty good deal in america might well be the reason. we do now make heroes out of victims. and it's been going on for some time. it's one thing if you come back from getting shot up in the war where you are currently victim but you may also be a hero. quite another if you are attacked on the street and become a hero by virtue of that. that seems to me to be a victim a different category altogether. >> shannon: as we watch that
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play out in the media, roller coaster ride over the last couple weeks, buck sextant with with the cell. why should anybody fall for the obvious folks to be world-class detectives and unbiased truth tellers when it comes to trump-russia collusion theories. it comes one of the special counsel's report may be wrapping up and fired fbi official andrew mccabe is out there making the rounds selling a book. what you make of the media's treatment of these various issues? >> let me to say this about the smollett case. there's a real distinction to be made here between a lot the local media and chicago handle this in the way nationally to handle it. the local media in chicago did pretty well on the story and to them it was a local crime story made into a big story about the fact that we had a celebrity is the alleged victim. and they covered it sort of from the police precinct level and kept up with what the cops were telling them both on the record and off and the result was that they were well out ahead of things when the story began to
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fall apart. the national media i think looked at the story and decided it was a crime story because in the national media and particularly in washington is only one story all the time, and it's donald trump. enter most of them it's donald trump and how awful and dangerous he is. so any story that alleges that trump supporters in the crudest and most bigoted way have assaulted somebody fits right into their view of trump and of his supporters. and it was just too tempting for them not to jump to the conclusions that they did in the result is that a lot of men today have egg all over their face in the same is true of a lot of politicians who had the same attitude. i noticed the tweets that were published by some of these politicians are disappearing from twitter by the minute. i understand that adam schiff took down one where he was struck by how well -- how he had known smollett and what a terrible thing this was. if that has now disappeared. it was posted on twitter. there's a lot of backtracking going on and properly so. >> shannon: some of the same folks out there now discussing
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this mccabe media tour, do you think that they've been equally probative of him? some of them have put some serious questions to him, others seem to accept what he's saying as fact even though we know he was fired in part for being less than fully truthful with folks inside. >> exactly right. this is a man whose firing had to do with his credibility. and he was deemed to have been less than candid, which was a gentle way, it seems to me, saying he eventually lied to his fbi colleagues. we know that when robert mueller was appointed, the letter released by rod rosenstein, the appointment letter said that he was picking up the counterintelligence investigation, mueller would, that had begun under comey. if you didn't mention anything about another counterintelligence investigation which kind of makes no sense when you think about it. all of these things are sort of there to be explored, and they haven't been and i think it's puzzling but i think whatever mccabe says has to be taken with more than a grain of salt.
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>> shannon: he's more than welcome to join us here in "fox news @ night" because we, like you, have any questions or rainy. brit hume, thank you so much, was great to have you with us. >> you bet, thank you. >> shannon: 's this is a fox news alert. the lawyer who filed a $250 million lawsuit on behalf of nick sandmann is speaking out tonight. lynwood wants to punish "the washington post" for allegedly targeting the covington high school team all because of his politics and what he calls the paper's political bias. trace gallagher is on the case for us from the l.a. newsroom. good evening, trey sperry >> good evening. there is no argument that the kids were vilified by numerous media outlets, including "the washington post" after cell phone video showed salmon steering down native american nathan phillips and there is growing evidence that media outlets drew their conclusion before they looked at the nearly two hours of video that dramatically changes both the context and perspective showing the altercation actually began
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with a group of black hebrew israelites were called the students a list of obscene and offensive names. investigators fired by covington catholic high school and the kentucky dioceses also say the students were not the instigators. and the lawsuit filed by the sandman family says "the washington post" used its "vast financial resources to enter the bully pulpit by publishing a series of false and defamatory print and online articles which effectively provided a worldwide megaphone to smear a young boy who was in its view, an acceptable casualty in their war against the president. the president also weighed in. first quoting the lawsuit commencing this "covington students suing them, go get them. fake news. and legal experts tend to agree that coverage could certainly hurt his reputation but they also acknowledge that his burden of proof is high saying he has to show "the washington post" had reckless disregard for the
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truth, meaning the paper knew it was false, and published it anyway. tonight, sandman's lead attorney told sean hannity they will meet the standard, watch. >> think about what this young boys having to deal with when the entire world saw him the way the media portray them and literally the face of evil. it is inexcusable, reprehensible conduct by the media. in "the washington post" led the way. >> harvard law professor alan dershowitz also believes sandman has a reasonable case and is very notable the suit was brought in a federal district court of eastern kentucky. a jury there may have a much different take than a jury in d.c. shannon. >> shannon: right you are, trace. thank you very much. so what are the odds that nick sandmann's attorney would score big win? (alan dershowitz. kentucky governor matt bevan. they join us now live to discuss. welcome, great to have you with us.
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>> good to be with you. >> thank you very >> shannon: i want to read a little bit from the complaints. sandman's attorney say this is all about "the washington post" making young nick sandmann look racist they saved in targeting and bullying nicholas by falsely accusing him of instigating the january 18th incident, the post conveyed that nicholas engaged in acts of racism by "swarming phillips," the native american activist there, and otherwise engaging in racist conduct. will this be enough to get what they are after, which is a $250 million verdict? >> that's asking for a lot of money, but whoever said that the plaintiffs have to prove reckless disregard or wrong is a matter of law. this young man is not a public figure. he was thrust into the public by "the washington post" and the media, he's just a high school kid and he doesn't have that heavy burden to prove what you have to prove if you were a public figure. all he has to prove is that they
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told untruths about him and those untruths resulted in harm to him. it's far easier case than if you were some kind of an elected official or high government official or if he had thrust himself into the news and made himself into a public figure so i think he has a significant chance of either winning the case for "the washington post" capitulating in settling, which is something newspapers rarely do but in this case they may be better off settling the case and having the case litigated, particularly in a jurisdiction which won't be necessarily friendly to them. >> shannon: that jurisdiction is worth the governor in kentucky is the common welfare. i want to read something from above the law.com blog post. they say this case about something else entirely. they say winning a defamation lawsuit isn't really the game. instead, we are fighting a new front in the culture wars, the one trump is open up against the
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media. the point is to chill out and read it from challenging the right wing. if enough of the media lives in fear of an 18 and a half than this lawsuit was a success, even one, if it gets thrown out of court on a rail. governor? >> i tell you, it's remarkable that they would say that this is a war on the media by trump in this case and those who support him. it's quite the opposite. this is literally the media -- it's been noted on topics throughout the course of this evening on your show, it's about victimhood. it's finding victims. in this case it was the native american who was drumming in the face of this young team. he was the victim. it's now the smollett fellow, he's the victim. that's what sells, its tabloid journalism journalism at its worst. it is a rush to the bottom and it is a reflection on the culture in this nation and it doesn't reflect well on us. it's unfortunate how we are trashing people if they are in any way, shape, or form seem to be associated with or perhaps able to be connected to the
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president in any way. >> shannon: professor, the legal team here spells that out very clearly. they say it's not a political case but this is a case about what they call "the washington post"'s bias against anyone who is connected to or appears to be supporting the president as the governor said. in this lawsuit they also say they want to teach jeff bezos, the owner of "the washington post," a lesson. they say in order to fully compensate nicholas his -- teach them a lesson. it will never forget this action seeks money damages in excess of $250 million, the amount jeff bezos, the world's richest person paid in cash for the post for his company purchased the newspaper in 2013. sounds like they're trying to make a very specific statement, professor. >> that's a serious litigation stay. as lawyers are making a terrible mistake. they're playing right into the hands of the first amendment argument. what they are saying is they're trying to chill free speech. it would be much better off not
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making that argument and simply saying we represent one guy, a kid, his reputation has been hurt, this is not about donald trump, this is not about trying to chill the media. a serious tactical blunder by the lawyers and my recommendation to this young man is he might seriously think about getting another lawyer who will take his case, bring his case, not try to bring a general case against the media against jeff bezos, against the world. that is a blunder. on the part of lawyers and it raises the first amendment issue. it invites the court to say we are not going to try to chill free speech, we are not going to try to chill free speech. if this were merely about this young man being hurt they would have a much better chance of winning. >> shannon: "the washington post" says this. "we are reviewing a copy of the lawsuit and we plan to mount a vigorous defense." i would imagine would be one is going to be to ask for a change of venue.
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in the meantime, professor, government, great to have you both with us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> shannon: trouble off the court for ten is great. she fought throughout her career for l gtb cute rights and now she's being signed by any within the community for questioning transgender athletes. plus senator, harris says it was a joke but her father is not laughing. calling out his daughter for what he says is identity politics. an end isis bride from alabama wants to come home to the u.s., the government says not a chance. even though she says she can be rehabilitated. >> may be therapy lessons. maybe a process that will ensure us they will never do this agai again. ♪ t is! huh...anybody? julie! hey...guess what day it is? ah come on, i know you can hear me. mike mike mike mike mike... what day is it mike? ha ha ha ha! leslie, guess what today is?
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>> shannon: house speaker nancy pelosi tonight urging her fellow democrats to help shutdown the president's emergency declaration aimed at moving funding to abort a barrier along the southern
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border. congressman joachim castro of texas offering a resolution that would do just that. in the house is likely to vote on it by this friday. california prosecutors charging 18-year-old uc santa cruz student: howard with creating a drug dealing software app. the banana plug app is available through the app store app store and allegedly offered up cocaine and meth. how would facing up to 40 years if convicted. with ice is reportedly near defeat in syria, some so-called ices brides, women who fled free of the west to join a terrorist movement at his height a few years ago now want to return to the country of their birth. looking into one of these high-profile cases tonight with the latest. >> 59 americans are known to have traveled to syria to join isis. this is the story of just one of them, a woman who was determined to come back to the united states and admit our mistakes. tonight it appears she has quite an uphill battle. >> i heard that it was announced, i thought it was obligatory for me to go. >> but now she is apologizing
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for leaving the united states and joining isis. if she left alabama for years after becoming radicalized online. she ended up in syria where she became and isis bride while part of the islamic straight, frequently posted to social media calling for the blood of americans. but. but now that the isis footprint is shrinking by the day, she wants to come back home. not going to happen, according to president trump and his secretary of state. the president tweeting today "i have instructed secretary of state mike pompeo and he fully agrees not to allow her back into the country. she sat down with abc news. >> do you think you deserve a punishment for what you did? >> navy therapy lessons, maybe a process that will ensure us that we will never do this again. >> people watch and will say to themselves, therapy isn't enough. >> i know that. maybe speaking against them, which i'm definitely planning to
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do. definitely wanting people to not make the same decisions that i've made. >> she and her attorneys believe she should be allowed back into the states. she was born in 1994 in new jersey. but things aren't so cut and dry. according to the state department she is not a u.s. citizen and never was. her father was a diplomat living in the states when she was born. a spokesman posted a photograph of what appears to be a birth certificate arguing she was born after her father stopped his diplomatic service. >> is absolutely clear that she was born in new jersey in 1994, she is a u.s. citizen, she was given a valid passport. >> the state department declined to get into specifics about her birth and claim of citizenship but officials there continue to maintain she is not a u.s. citizen and she's not coming home, shannon. >> shannon: we will debate it with our power panel. thank you very much. it's time now for 2020.
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benson. sina politics writer for "u.s. news & world report," david. thank you for being with us tonight. great to have a pretty >> good to be with you. >> shannon: want to start by reading something from the atlantic. it says the smollett story, if the trajectory leads to evidence of bakery, but actually reveals something else modern america is about, victimhood sheet. anthropologists will find aspect of america peculiar, intriguing and sad. guy? >> it definitely is sad and it's strange. we don't know exactly what motivated jussie smollett to do this, but his story seemed very implausible i think from the get-go with the details. the performance was at practically sociopathic given what we know now and i think what bothers so many people is not just that he made up this hoax of a crime, which is terrible unto itself because it takes police resources away, it sows fear, it's was resentment. in the process, he and other people who amplified the story
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in certain ways tried to implicate by extension a third of the country, half the country sparing people as dangerous or violent based on political disagreements. this is sort of the perfect storm because he's the celebrity who's made this claim and i think he's in more trouble than just filing one false police report with the chicago police. if the feds are involved too. it could be a world of hurt for jussie smollett and he deserves it. >> shannon: of course his counsel points out in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, these are allegations on charges by the police right now as we stand by for the rest of this. in the meantime, newsday says this. it when lies about being a victim makes it that much harder for that next person to be believed. that's not debatable, that's just the truth. leslie? >> i'm so glad you asked me that because this is coming to me, one of the saddest aspects. you do have those in that community, african-americans, african-american men who are gay who are attacked in the future
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people are going to raise the eyebrows the next time someone he says i was the victim of a hate crime potentially for there was a new sport around my neck. regardless if someone is saying anything that is pro crumpler wearing a make america great again hat. let's make this so disgusting is african-american specifically african-american men and those in the gay community, whether men, trans and the lgbtq community are victims of violence in our society and if, in fact, this is true he has taken away from those victims and for claims for future victims and that's just horrifi horrific, especially to these segments of these populations in our society. >> shannon: a large swath of the media has taken a beating in this as it plays out too. >> i would say the first thing is i would reserve judgment. the media jumped on his story and went with it and now we are jumping on the police story, so i want to hear the whole case
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before i make a judgment. second thing i would say is if he did lie and do this interview, as guy said, that is sociopathic. and that's is more about him. and i think the third thing is the media lesson here. we are in a culture that we jump to the story, we are on it 24/7 cable news network, twitter, facebook and the meeting needs to put more breaks on the pedal before we make proclamations about any case even be on this one. >> shannon: want to make sure we ask you all about this phenomenon and this case now involving a woman who was born in new jersey, joined to go to isis, had apparently three different husbands, two of them were killed in battle. she says she's got a young child now but she wants to come back to the u.s. the state department is saying no, she was never a citizen so there's a dispute now. if these documents that have been tweeted out. the lawyer tweeted this out. he said these are documents, proof that the u.s. government knew that as of september, her dad was no longer a diplomat. she was born at the end of
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october '94 new jersey. donald trump has no authority to strip americans citizens of citizenship. she wants to surrender to the legal system but as we sign the the interview, she wants therapy. not jail. >> i think she needs a lot more than therapy and there has to be punishment here. but i do think that we could learn a lot from this and let me tell you why. one of the areas that we have a real problem with, if you ask any counterterrorism expert is with the radicalization through the internet. that's what happened to her. and if she can talk about what appealed to her, what sites and with the interaction was, also, who she was married to. what they were discussing. what they were planning. i think this person could be priscilla press a lot plethora of teenagers pregnancy packs to run off with convicts and i think we should hear her out. and in addition, if, in fact, she was born in new jersey, what her father is an american or not, she's an american and her
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child is an american and we shouldn't punish that child for the sins of their mother. >> shannon: she said she was brainwashed, she was nice, she was young but she had learned her lesson. >> i don't see the case for someone who adhered to isis and proclaimed themselves to isis. i think it's a really tough case. it also politically i think this is golden for president trump to seize on and say he's tough and strong and frankly i don't see anyone out there, anyone in either, politicians coming to her defense, which i think says a lot for her case. >> there are teenage mistakes and then there's joining isis. these are not one and the same. i think it is a material fact whether or not she is a u.s. citizen. that might be a question in terms of whether she has certain rights. but if she is one, let's just say at the stiff state department is wrong if he does come back. therapy is not going to cut it. this was aiding and abetting isis, the terrorist organization and to make it about the child that she has back home, she is
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responsible for her decision and that decision was a catastrophically bad one. >> shannon: and apparently her legal team as fire went to mike filing in federal court on the citizenship question so we watch the place plays out but they also say she wants to surrender the stomach to federal authority so i think i'll probably go beyond there if that happens. power panel, thank you very much. if you will stick around, we have more to discuss with you after this break. lgt bq advocate in hot water for saying that men who transition to become female and then plan the women's tour are cheating, so now this outspoken activist is being shunned by many on the left. the power panel weighs in on that. ♪ 5 minutes. so vets can join? oh yeah. how do you kind of buy a new car? it's used. it's for mikey. you know he's gonna have girls in that car. yeah. he's gonna have two of them.
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>> shannon: back with our power panel. battled insults and stereotypes throughout her legendary tennis career at the center of an lgt bq firestorm tonight. our power panel graciously sticking around for this. so welcome back to all of you. i will read a little bit from an op-ed that she wrote. she said a man can decide to be female, take hormones if required by whatever sporting organization is concerned, when everything in sight and perhaps earn a small portion and then reverse his decision code go back to making babies if he so desires. it's insane and it's cheating. happy to address a transgender woman in whatever form she prefers but i would not be happy
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to compete against her, it wouldn't be fair. >> i think she lays the case out pretty well. how you identify in your gender i think is becoming more accepted and despite the society but frankly this is about having a different body. males and females have different bodies and frankly the u.s. olympic committee has standards about testosterone levels and if you're a trans man it doesn't matter but if you're a trans woman, to compete you have to be below a certain testosterone level because that has impact on the strength that you have to compete. she is obviously suffering the backlash but i think if anyone was able to bring the case to the public it is her with credibility. >> shannon: and she had been with this group athlete ally. and they issued a statement saying this. the lgt bq community is not a monolith, we must always leave space to learn from one another and to grow. if we fail to do so, we are not only failing our goal to advance equality as a whole, but failing
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to live up to the core of our potential as human beings who believe all of us have a place in sports in this world. a number of these groups are breaking ties with her or disavowing her position after she was pretty much a pioneer and author is one of the early advocates for a lot of these lgbt issues. >> i think that's why so many people were surprised that she of all people was the one that said this and said what she did. especially david, thank you because that's the point that i was going to make. which actually would assuage any fears that she or other athletes have about a trans woman because of the testosterone level because of the rules in these professional sports. i understand what she was saying. i know a lot of people have that concern in the athletic world and the athletic community. but because it is her and because there is such a sensitivity and more acceptance than a zero tolerance towards negativity in the lgtbq world are not surprised at the
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backlash and i was very surprised that she said what she did being her. >> shannon: i believe this is from "the new york post." the title of the article the insane gay backlash against her. seeing this, even with hormone treatment transgender women have more muscle mass and bone density and higher levels of oxygen carrying red blood cells which aid athletic ability. that's a real issue. especially the high school and college levels where students are also competing for scholarships. so in others long time icon is being ostracized for her heterodoxy by those she so vigorously champion when it was professionally risky. for shame. >> she was a trailblazer and she's making a case, she said this a while ago and came under fire. she went back, did more research and came out swinging again saying i believe even more that this is the case and there is some of the science behind this, it's not just hormones, if not just testosterone, there are questions about muscle mass and other advantages that a biological male might have.
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and i think there's a lot of americans, increasing number of americans who want to fully respect the dignity of trans individuals, treat them with respect, treat them with the pronouns that they would prefer and all of that, and you can respect that, there is a separate question when it comes to athletic competition, what is fair, what is not fair, and i think the types of questions that are raised by this tennis star in the lgbt community, she should not be she's raising completely reasonable and legitimate questions that are to be discussed and debated in the answer should not be you shut up, go away, the answer should be actually let's have this conversation. >> shannon: thank you for having a conversation with us. great to have you. >> thank you. >> shannon: up next, the latest on my congressman alexandra casio cortez is being singled out in a big way right in the middle of times square. and man eaters -- meat eaters, not managers.
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>> shannon: a lot of people are marking the so-called green new deal, the environmental manifesto spearheaded by freshman congresswoman, democratic socialist alexandria ocasio-cortez of new york. doug mckelway doug mckelway tonight continues our leaked ohmic weeklong series about what the greener deal could mean now for your family's menu choices. >> for all the cow flatulence jokes it's born, the greener deal is serious about the threat of cow methane. scientists have literally backed out and found that a dairy cow produces up to 400 liters of methane a day. the epa says it's up to 25 times more powerful a greenhouse gas than co2. livestock pose other problems. >> it requires more resources to produce meat than it does to produce, produce plant-based food. >> told this planet simply can't
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constrain dell might contain billions of people. farm state senator chuck grassley says that kind of criticism is naive. >> we have a member of the house of representatives who knows this about food. food grows in supermarkets, not on farms. >> it is ludicrous to think that about 9% of total emissions and reproduction is even less, that that is going to solve climate change. >> the greener deal also proposes local farming. >> many beginning farmers are now in the resale sort of like a business, direct at a farmers' market or through community-supported agriculture. >> critics fear dismantling big agriculture's, economies of scale ohmic scale that help feed the world cheaply. at that combination of tractors and combines and other tools that allow the firm to be handled by about 2% of the population and you have potentially disastrous consequences. >> it brings them longer and
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better lives. i lived in africa and i can assure you that without energy life is brutal and short. >> that's played include so many nonclimate related proposals, the hardships and higher costs it would propose. >> guaranteed jobs for everyone that includes health insurance and a living wage. there's universal health care. there's free education. >> basically a progressive manifesto masquerading as a policy platform. speak with the most older americans these ideas are preposterous because of the astronomical costs. but socialism is not only regaining a foothold in the u.s., some polls suggest it's more popular among millennials than capitalism. shannon. >> shannon: doug mckelway, thank you very much. check it out. a massive winter storm created travel and commute in trouble for almost 200 million people in about 39 states today. but i think that i popped so mike stopped him from praising the elements from helping her on
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a the parking lot proving no job is too big and the pop is too small. her owner gabby was accidentally blocked it out of the house. you are the midnight heroes. and the rest of you are too. we will see you tomorrow night, thanks for joining us. ♪ >> tucker: fox news alert, chicago police announce dramatis chicago police announce dramatis smollett case, no longer considered the victim of a crime, seconds ago, he was charged, felony charges, for filing a false police report. all the developments and is fast breaking story just moments. amazing the difference between tonight and just a week ago. conventional wisdom turned on its head as often happens. good evening, welcome to tucker carlson tonight. q first, we ask this question. have you noticed the weird compulsion in people, a lot of people, to pretend they are the opposite of who they obviously are? jussie smollett is one of them. but it's everywhere, prevalent in politics, it's ubiquitous in democratic party.

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