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and white -- >> i prefer to mess orange. very trump-like. >> animals are great! >> set your dvrs, never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is up next. >> bret: jesse, happy birthday, and that cake is creepy. this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier. breaking news tonight. a few minutes ago a federal judge in new york denied the justice department's intention to put a new legal team to work on the attempt to get a citizenship question on next year's census. it changes the story. bring just minutes ago chief idols correspondent john roberts starts us off tonight from the north lawn with the early assessment of what this means. good evening, john. >> getting to you, brett. it looked like last week after the supreme court ruled that the department was going to give up on the idea of putting a citizenship question on the 2020 census, that was until president trump tweeted that no, that question is going to go on the census. the department of justice decided it was going to put a new legal team in charge of
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getting that question on the census. the legal team would be from the civil division and james burnham, who had been heading it up for the department of justice was taken off the case. however, when it was brought before a court in new york city, the judge denied the motion to change the legal team. it's unclear at this point where all of this stance. if the attorney general william barr barr saying yesterday that he believes that there is a way that they can get that question on the census, but he did not unveil the strategy. at this point we don't know what they're going to do, but we should know in a day or two how this will affect their plans to put that question on the census for 2020. unclear at this point. still trying to digest at all. >> bret: mean time, increasing calls from labor secretary alex acosta to step down in the wake of this new sex trafficking charges against wealthy financier jeffrey epstein. the president so far though, john, is standing by his cabinet
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official. >> he is buried president trump have the ultimate say in whether or not secretary acosta stays on at the department of labor, but the department of labor itself made it quite clear this afternoon in a statement to fox news saying secretary acosta is not resigning. >> for two and a half years he's been just an excellent secretary of labor buried >> in the face of mounting calls for his labor secretary to step down from president trump today offered a defense of alex acosta and the prosecutorial choices he made about jeffrey epstein. >> if you go back and look at everybody else's decisions, whether it's the u.s. attorney or an assistant u.s. attorney or a judge, you go back 12 or 15 years ago or 20 years ago and look at their past decisions, i would think you'd probably find that they would wish they may be did it a different way. >> acosta has been scorched by criticism that is u.s. attorney in miami in 2008 he cut a secret sweetheart deal for epstein to serve 13 months in a palm beach jail on prostitution charges
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rather than face federal charges on sex trafficking carried in a tweet, nancy pelosi same secretary acosta must step down. as u.s. attorney, he engaged in an unconscionable agreement with jeffrey epstein kept secret from courageous young victims. the minority leader in the senate chuck schumer echoing calls for acosta to go. >> it's a major mystery for everybody as to what has happened. why did this absurd obscene plea-bargain occur? >> epstein had cultivated a policy of powerful friends and acquaintances occluding, president bill clinton who took trips on epstein's private jet at least four times. in 2002 president trump told new york magazine "i've known jeff for 15 years. a terrific guy. he's a lot of fun to be with. it's even said he looks beautiful woman as much as i do, and many of them are on the younger side." today the president claimed his relationship with epstein went south not long after that,
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though he did not elaborate on why. >> i had a falling out with him along time ago. i don't think i've spoken to them for 15 years. i wasn't a fan. >> in a rare move, secretary acosta took to twitter to praise the charges brought against epstein in new york saying "the crimes committed by epstein are horrific and i am pleased that newark executors are moving forward with the case based on the evidence." some republicans in congress are inclined to give acosta the benefit of the doubt. >> there's nothing new at this point. if there is something new, we would then be in a position -- >> other suggested the 2008 deal might deserve a closer look. >> if this plea deal doesn't withstand scrutiny, and it would be a job for the judiciary committee to find out how it cut off the rails. >> while president trump is standing by acosta, he also left the door open for a potential change in his status and get administration would be taking a close look at the circumstances
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surrounding that 2008 plea deal in florida. just back to where we started here, bret, a little bit more information on this court ruling in new york. and obama and pointy, very much the same way the supreme court left open whether or not the justice department and the department of commerce could come back with another rationale to put the citizenship question on the census, judge furman left the door open for the department of justice to come back with another rationale to change out its legal team, just simply saying he didn't like the first rationale, they didn't make their case, but they can try it again, so we will see where it goes from here. >> bret: john roberts live on the north one. thanks. there is open warfare tonight among house democrats and it's getting personal. many progressives are still smarting after house speaker nancy pelosi ran through a republican-backed humanitarian aid package for migrants at the southern border and for the independence day recess. now everyone is back in the animosity is growing. correspondent doug mckelway on capitol hill tonight.
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>> if not the para technical kind, but the political fireworks that are getting louder with the house's return from the fourth of july break. >> welcome back the momentum speaker. >> nancy pelosi lit the fuse in a "new york times" and we're just after members left last week. she singled out the four progressives who voted against a $4.6 billion bipartisan bill to fund migrant detention facilities. "all these people have their public whatever in their twitter world, but they didn't have any following. they are for people and that so many boats they got. we have to have a solution, not just a twitter fight," the speaker said. it did not go over well among the four progressives. >> i will tell you now we are not going to stand by and sit idly by and allow brown and dark skinned children to be ripped away from their -- and be demonized. >> alexandria ocasio-cortez also twins out tweeting her 4.7 million followers. "that public whatever is called public sentiment and wielding the power to shift it is how we
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actually achieve meaningful change in this country. "republicans still hurting from their own stubborn factionalism when they were in the house took pleasure in the democrats interparty skirmish. so to the white house. >> four democrats that nancy pelosi seems to be in a catfight with these days. fun to watch. they even voted against the democratic aid package buried >> senator schumer down by the contract noting that progressives call for restricting how border money is spent is a widely held view among democrats. >> we all want tough restrictions on the dollars, and you will see in a few days i and others will be introducing adulation that will talk about those tough restrictions. >> still some huge immigration questions, how to handle the surge of the southern border, what to do about the citizenship question on the census, and what to do about president trump's planned ice rates, planned well over two weeks ago and then delayed at the behest of speaker pelosi. will they ever happen?
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>> bret: doug mckelway live on hell, thanks. five boeings, 777 freighter aircraft. the deal, part of a major purchase of american goods by the middle eastern nation. qatar the guest of president trump at the white house today and the general rest of the treasury secretary last night. the new orders, as boeing is set to lose the title of world's biggest aircraft manufacturer. if the company reports 37% drop in deliveries for the first half of the year due to the grounding of its best-selling max jets. stocks were mixed today. if the dow lost 23, the s&p 500 gained 4, the nasdaq was up 43. new york is getting ready for tomorrow's ticker tape parade down at famed canyon of heroes for the world cup champion u.s. women's soccer team. back in washington, some lawmakers see that victory is a political opportunity. if fox business network correspondent hillary vaughn tells us what's at stake tonigh
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tonight. >> the u.s. women's world cup champions traded in their chances of usa to call for equal pay and they are using players off the soccer field to score political points. >> have shown that the talent and their greatness. now let's show them the money. >> how about the equal pay amendment that the house has passed? why don't we put it on the floor of the senate in honor of the women? >> after megan rapinoe said this. >> are not going to the bleak white house. >> democrats are trying to bring the soccer champs from the sideline to their side of the aisle. house majority leader nancy pelosi and senate minority leader chuck schumer both inviting the team to the hill and rapinoe said yes and is using her world cup win to talk partisan politics. >> great. i love that. interested to see what mcconnell does. >> on paper the u.s. women's soccer players are paid less than the men soccer game, but the reality is a lot less black-and-white. male players are paid bonuses
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based on wins and losses. the women's team it's a base salary. revenue from the game makes up about a quarter of the money the u.s. soccer federation brings in, almost half comes from sponsorships that are sold as a bundle for both teams. >> year-round, however they all drawn? what is the attendance for women soccer outside of world cup? i would like to see it. >> if you do the same work you want to get the same pay. >> democrats are taking this fight over equal pay all the way to the 2026 world cup hosted in the u.s. senator mansion introducing a bill that would block federal money from funding the game until the u.s. soccer federation pays both teams the same. if republicans and democrats have the same goal, they will have a shot to prove it. >> bret: hillary, thank you. there is a new player tonight, hard to believe, but there is, in the democratic presidential sweepstakes. billionaire activist tom steyer says he will fight what he calls a hostile corporate takeover of
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our democracy. this comes as the front runner puts his financial records in the spotlight. correspondent peter doocy has specifics tonight from the hill. >> the former vice president calls himself middle-class joe. >> in washington, that's not meant as a component. >> but since leaving office middle-class joe has been making top dollar. looking and speaking engagements at up to a ten and a half million dollar race between 2016 and 2017 and more money for the bitings and more money for charity. 9.2% of its salary in 2017, a million dollars more than the 1.5% of his salary in 2016. the 76-year-old hasn't let go of first place yet, but the democratic field just won't shrink because the day after one dropped out, another jumped in. >> my name is tom steyer and i'm running for president. >> the billionaire teased a run earlier this year and the platform was to impeach. >> and strengthening my commitment the need to impeach. >> but the word impeachment was missing from his announcement
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video. >> i think what people believe is that the system has left them. i think people believe the corporations have bought the democracy, that the politicians don't care about or respect them. >> the trump campaign responded "it doesn't seem much for the whole democrat field that the number one democrat owner took a look around and decided that there's no one he can support." democrats sound just as excited. elizabeth warren tweeted "the democratic primary should not be decided by billionaires. bernie sanders shares the sentiment and is also discounting joe biden's recent apology for past remarks about civility with segregationists. >> joe has talked about his early days in the senate when things were simple. but underneath that so-called civility there was an incredible oppression and ugliness and attacks against the african-american community. >> but the bitings don't believe much damage has been done. >> the american people know joe biden. if they know his values, they
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know what he stands for. and they didn't buy it. >> something else the american people know about joe biden, he was once the poorest man in the senate. something he talked about on the campaign trail all the time. if now we wait to see if he keeps talking about it after supporters and opponents have seen his eight figure income. bret buried >> bret: peter doocy up on capitol hill. thanks. one of the most successful african-american businessman in the united states says president trump deserves a lot of credit for moving the economy in a positive direction and for specifically helping minority communities. entrepreneur, founder of bet, and hillary clinton fund-raiser bob johnson also told cnbc today he now thinks democrats have lost their way. >> the party, in my opinion, has moved, for me personally, too far to the left, and for that reason, i don't have a candidate in this particular -- in the
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party at this time. i think at the end of the day, if a democrat is going to beat trump, that person, he or she is going to have to move to the center, and you can't wait too long to do that. >> bret: bob johnson. the governors of 23 states have signed a pledge opposing the president's plans to relax vehicle mileage standards. the trumpet ministrations as american consumers increasingly want bigger less efficient suvs and pickup trucks. the final rules are expected late summer or early fall. president trump is going after britain's ambassador to the u.s. again and now the british government is fighting back. it's all a part of the fallout over leaked official cables published by the british media over the weekend in which the ambassador had some harsh things to say about the american leader and his administration. reporter kitty logan has the latest from london tonight. >> president trump ramped up his rhetorical attacks on the british ambassador to the u.s.,
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calling him "very stupid guy" and just one of a series of tweets on tuesday morning. the diplomatic dispute between the u.s. and the u.k. started after leaked diplomatic cables showed ambassador kim derek describing president trump as "insecure and inapt." derek's comments are in stark contrast to his reply one president trump asked for the official bust of winston churchill to be loaned to the white house. >> we are delighted, thrilled that president trump has asked for it to go back into the oval office. it's a great moment. >> president trump city will no longer deal with ambassador and disinvited him from the white house dinner. the bust was still on display on tuesday. british foreign secretary jeremy hunt, a contender for prime minister, says the ambassador was expressing if you are not shared by the government and that he will keep his job if hunt wins. just a month ago, britain hosted president trump with a lavish state banquet. but the incident raised
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questions about future u.s.-u.k. ties. however, boris johnson, also bidding to become prime minister says the relationship won't suffer. >> i think it's very important that we have a strong relationship with our most important ally, the united states is, has been, we will be the foreseeable future our number one political military friend and partner. >> a sentiment shared by the u.s. state department. >> we have an incredibly special and strategic relationship with the united kingdom. it is something that has stood the test of time and will continue to do so. >> as per derek's standing with the u.s. government, the state department plans to deal with all accredited to british representatives until the white house says otherwise. bret buried >> bret: kitty logan in london. thanks. up next, my former special counsel robert mueller might not testify before congress next week after all. we will explain. some of our fox affiliates around the country. fox 35 in orlando, estimated
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insured losses from october's for a michael have topped six and two-thirds billion dollars in florida, that's according to the states office and insurance regulation website. says almost 150,000 claims have been filed, around 22,000 of them, about 15%, remain open. the category five hurricane cause devastating damage and parts of northwest florida after making landfall in mexico beach. fox richmond as virginia lawmakers abruptly adjourn a special session attended to invest to address gun violence in less than two hours. ralph northam called the republican-led legislature to the capital in the wake of the may 31st attack that killed a dozen people in virginia beach. this is a live look at progressive field in cleveland fox sports. if the big story there tonight the major league baseball all-star game. coverage on the fox broadcast network begins with the pregame show at 7:30 p.m. eastern time. that is tonight's live look, a
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account. they ruled the first amendment does not permit a public official using a social media account for public purposes to exclude people because of the disagreement. justice department says it's disappointed and looking at options. oral arguments were given today in the latest effort to get rid of obamacare. republican officials in 18 states contend since there's no longer a tax penalty for defying the law's individual mandate, the insider nomadic entire affordable care act is unconstitutional. a texas judge agreed with that argument december instruct on the law. a group of 20 states is defending obamacare. both sides expect this fight to end up in the u.s. supreme court. but we thought was a done deal, congressional testimony asked week by former special counsel robert mueller may not be. and tonight we are is some wiggle room, at least in the eyes of the nation's top law-enforcement official. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is here to
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explain. >> with congressional testimony looming, sources tell fox news former special counsel robert mueller remains a reluctant witness, and and a nr of options under consideration. attorney general william barr seem to offer an exit ramp. >> if bob decides he doesn't want to be subject to that in the department of justice would certainly back in. >> mueller was scheduled to testify next wednesday before the demo to democrat-led intelligence community. his report found no criminal conspiracy between the trump campaign in russia but did not "exonerate the president on obstruction of justice." barr frowned on house democrats for compelling mueller's testimony. >> am disappointed to see him subpoenaed because i don't think that serves any purpose dragon bob mueller up if he in fact it's going to stick to the report. it seems to me the only reason for doing that is to create some kind of public spectacle. >> in may, mueller gave his only public statement on the russian
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report's findings and he did not take reporter questions. >> the report is my testimony. i would not provide information beyond that which is already public in any appearance before congress. >> in a separate developer, sources tell fox news the former british spy christopher steele, behind the controversial drum dossier, was so concerned that he could get "thrown under the bus in a forthcoming inspector general report" that he agreed to cooperate. broke new details this morning that he was interviewed in the u.k. in june by three lawyers working for inspector general michael e horwitz, who is investigating alleged surveillance and targeting the trump campaign. the ig office is not commenting on the status of their work. >> bret: kevin, thanks. >> you're welcome. >> bret: up next, the story behind the family feud at what is supposed to be the happiest place on earth. first, beyond our borders tonight. hong kong's political leaders say the effort to commend a highly contentious extradition bill is dead. this comes after weeks of sometimes violent protests. if not yet clear if the
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legislation was being formally withdrawn. protest leaders vowed to keep up the pressure until it is. britain's information commissioner's office is proposing $124 million fine for marriott international after a massive breach in its starwood hotel reservation system. the company says the information for up to 383 million guests was hacked over a four-year period. at least five u.s. states are investigating the breach as well. volkswagen is halting production of the latest version of its beetle model this week at its plant in mexico. if it's the end of the road for a vehicle that has symbolized things over a history spanning eight decades since 1938. it began as a project for a so-called people's car. it later became a symbol for germany's postwar economic renaissance. and then an emblem of the 1960s counterculture in the u.s. just some of the other stories beyond our borders tonight.
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what might seem like a small cough can be a big bad problem for your grandchildren. babies too young to be vaccinated against whooping cough are the most at risk for severe illness. help prevent this! talk to your doctor or pharmacist today about getting vaccinated against whooping cough. talk to your doctor or pharmacist today (driver) relax, it's just a bug. that's not a bug, that's not a bug! (burke) hit and drone. seen it, covered it. at farmers, we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ ♪ >> bret: it supposed to be the happiest place on earth, but there are a lot of unhappy people tonight after video of a family fight at disneyland has gone viral. national correspondent william la jeunesse shows us from los angeles. >> politics it's not.
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while thousands might see today 'a senate hearing social media social media -- >> i think were going to learn a lot today about the perils of the social media sites. >> millions know it intimately. video of this family feud going viral over the weekend. it begins when a woman spits on her brother, who responds with punches. moments later, another man takes a swing. their mother fails to break up the fight using her motorized scooter. police say all seven belong to the same nevada family. like the proverbial car crash, visitors watch the sisters fight while their mother gets knocked down. if posted to posted sunday, millions have watched the whip, though the fight has virtually no news value, most prefer scuffles at the magic kingdom to speeches on capitol hill. some flotsam i tried but failed to stop the slugfest. eventually dry some other family across the pavement. disney security eventually shows up but by the time police arrived the fight is over. those involved refused to cooperate and no one is arreste
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arrested. >> when we responded to the incident on saturday night we didn't have the luxury of seeing video. >> now the city attorney could file charges. >> it's not uncommon for families when they get together and they are stressed and heat involved and they are spending a lot of money, sometimes tempers can rise. i've never seen it come to this point before. >> police say chargers could choose fighting in public, domestic violence and child endangerment. >> bret: william, thank you. the secret service says there were 27 mass attack incident last year in united states. said 91 people were killed and 107 injured. the annual threat assessment report, which came out today, indicates one-third of the perpetrators had history of serious domestic violence, two-thirds had mental health issues and nearly all have been threatening or concerning communications that worried others before those incidents. the house will vote friday on the 9/11 first responders aid bill. that's according to majority leader steny hoyer.
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this has become a major issue after emotional testimony on capitol hill in recent weeks with the authorization for the victims compensation fund about to expire next year. self-made texas billionaire and two-time third party presidential candidate ross perot has died. senior correspondent rick leventhal takes a look back at his colorful life and legacy. >> everybody in washington makes excuses. nobody takes responsibility, even when they have direct responsibility. >> ross perot was a maverick. a billionaire businessman, and the most successful third party presidential candidate since theodore roosevelt in 1912. >> what you expect people to say when you disturb the status quo? welcome to the crowd? >> henry ross perot was born june 27th 1930 into texas with family with humble roots and strong values. >> i learned that it doesn't matter what happens to you. what matters is did you do the right thing? >> he graduated the u.s.
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naval academy and became a battalion commander. then took a sales job with ibm. in 1962 with a thousand dollar loan from his wife, a former schoolteacher, he became a tech entrepreneur pounding electronic data systems, which he sold 22 years later for $2.5 billion. in 1992 he announced his run for the white house, promising to cut waste and eliminate deficits he blamed on previous administrations. >> it was voodoo economics. whatever it was, we are now in deep -- i will tell you that. >> he backed out of the race in july and reentered in october, collecting 19% of the vote and ran again in '96 with the reform party with like success. in a statement from his family called him a man of integrity and action and american patriot with one eighth to my stomach unwavering support with support of the military and veterans, saying he lived in long and honorable life. >> few people in this country have been able to live the american dream to the extent
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that i have. >> survived by his wife, five children, and 16 grandchildren, ross perot, that at the age of 89. in new york, rick leventhal, fox news. >> bret: president trump is sticking by labor secretary alex acosta, at least for now, in the wake of the wake of the jeffrey epstein sex trafficking story. will get reaction to this and breaking news from the panel when we come back. ♪ that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be.
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the rest of it we will have to look at. we will have to look at it very carefully. >> bret: growing calls on capitol hill from mostly democrats that secretary of labor alex acosta should resign. the labor department says "secretary acosta is not resigning. all of this turns around on this criticism that he cut the sweetheart deal. the secretary tweeting "the crimes committed by epstein are horrific and i'm pleased that near prosecutors are moving forward with a case based on new evidence. it with the evidence available more than a decade ago, federal prosecutors insisted that epstein go to jail. register as a sex offender, and put the world on notice that he was a predator. now that no evidence an additional testimony is available to new york persecution offers an important opportunity to more fully bring him to justice." so what about that? we will start here with our panel. ben dominates as the thought of dormant publisher of "the federalist." susan, congressional respondent for the "washington examiner" and jonathan swan, national
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political reporter for axios. susan, it seems like the president is sticking by his man right now. >> he is, and there isn't a lot of enthusiasm on capitol hill amongst republicans for acosta to resign. i talked to a lot of members, moderate to conservative, i really can't find anybody who thinks he should step down specifically. what they do say is some say they would like them to come out and explain the rationale behind the deal they cut, and they want to hear more about why the victims were not informed ahead of time about the deal, which i think they were supposed to do. so there's definitely some concern and today i heard mitch mcconnell say that he was deferring to the president on this. if he didn't come out and publicly say no, i back a cost on this. so i think there's some concern on capitol hill. if it is not risen to the level of calling for his resignation. >> viewers should keep their eye on this because the labor secretary is in a very weak position already. >> bret: because of his inability or deregulation, for other things were republicans wanted. >> correct.
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exactly right. if so alex acosta has been consistently disappointing some of the conservatives in the administration, particularly people like the domestic policy council, mick mulvaney, the new white house chief of staff, people who want them to be much more aggressive on regulation. you now have a lot of vulnerability on the substance and then you have this issue emerging where you do have, you know, yes, true, not many were republicans on the hill, but it provides an opportunity for some of the people who want him out anyway to use that as a lever to get him out. >> bret: you did a big piece of vetting, or lack thereof. he was one of them. >> no. we got leaked a huge amount of the vetting documents internal. alex acosta's was not one of them. i'm told that when the president decided, there really wasn't substantial vetting done on him, which is not a surprise to me, because that was the case with a lot of people and you may remember the first person that they selected for labor secretary was andy. the vetting managed to miss the fact that his wife and accused
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him of domestic violence. it was done in a hurry purity to go back, this was all done in a great hurry. >> bret: one of the things about this case that gets so many eyeballs, that is the connection between the president, and his knowledge of epstein. bill clinton and his friendship and knowledge of epstein. he fears the the president said about his relationship today. >> i know him like everybody and palm beach newman. people in palm beach newman, he was a fixture in palm beach. if i had a falling out with him a long time ago. i don't think i've spoken to him for 15 years. i wasn't a fan. long time ago. i would say maybe 15 years. i was not a fan of his. that i can tell you. i was not a fan of his varied >> bret: bill clinton's office puts out this lengthy statement about the trips he took with him. there were only four, and it's really kind of interesting. >> that could be up for dispute as well. what is a trip. >> bret: what is a flight, what is a trip. >> epstein is at the center of a network of incredibly powerful
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and wealthy people. there's always been a lot of questions about him ever since this earlier accusation and the plea deal back in 2008, whether this was someone who skirted justice by virtue of those connections. i think that something that we really deserve to know about this current situation. in addition, i think we deserve to know after the 2008 deal, what is happening in the intervening 11 years that would have prevented maybe additional questions -- if this is as much of a frequent act on the part of epstein as is suggested by the prosecutors, why does this not come in before, and to the point that jonathan made earlier about alex acosta, acosta is someone who was a rising star within the republican party, very well-connected himself, someone who had a lot of trust, i would say, from a lot of different republicans in d.c., which is one of the reasons i think he was kind of pushed through this process so fast and more questions were raised earlier. >> it's just weird. if there are so many unanswered questions here. i interviewed alan dershowitz about this, who was representing
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jeffrey epstein, says he's still advising him. alan dershowitz told me he got a massage at epstein's house and he clarified that it was from -- this is a direct quote, an old, old russian and he saw no 11 age. what's going -- what is this? what are we talking about! >> he's a big democratic donor. in the other part of the story is president trump banned him from mar-a-lago for allegedly assaulting an underage girl and president trump cooperated with prosecutors on the epstein case. there's all kinds of little details here being left out, but he was a big democratic donor. >> the picture is of someone who may have gotten away with horrible and heinous acts for years simply because of who they were connected to and who they were afraid of. >> bret: i want to go down the row about this census question and whether it's actually going to happen. >> i just got off the phone with a senior administration official. if it is likely to happen
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tomorrow, that some sort of executive action -- i can't confirm that it's definitely happening tomorrow, but likely something tomorrow, executive action of some form whether a memorandum. >> bret: which kind of goes around -- >> force this on to the census. >> bret: the current development was the judge that you can't change the legal team, but that's what i usually go around in a different way to get the census question. >> checkmate, the house is now threatening to block funding for this. the appropriations committee can do that. if they can prevent any funding in a 2020 census to go for that particular question. that's what they said they're going to do. >> do they really want to take that much of a stand on an issue with the american people, basically most polling shows us says why can't we just ask them whether they are citizens or not you like the one that is a good question politically. next up, democrats divided and soccer politics. ♪ ething you want to buy. it's not sexy... oh delicious. or delicious...
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♪ >> by and large, whatever orientation they came to court, congress with, they know that we have to hold the center, that we have to go down the mainstream. >> they know that? 's because they do. >> you have these wings, aoc intergroup on one side. >> it's like five people. >> no, the progressive group.
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it's more than five. >> i'm a progressive. >> it is very disappointing that the speaker whatever try to diminish our voices in so many ways. >> bret: of the fireworks didn't stop on july 4th. they are still going on the democratic caucus appear on capitol hill. nancy pelosi, the speaker, also telling "the new york times" "all these people have their public whatever and their twitter world, but they didn't have any following. they are for people, and that so many votes they got." here is the four people, the progressives in there, representative alexandria ocasio-cortez, omar, presley. there is a battle forming and we are back with the panel. susan, it's very public. they're not hiding this. >> it's public, but this is a really mini faction, she is right. it's a much bigger factions -- no it's not. it's a mini faction and they are learning the limits of their social media stardom. there was sort of an outsize expectation. they would come to congress with millions of people following them on instagram and twitter
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and be able to have this major influence on the people they vote with. but congress is a much different animal. winning votes is not retweets and lakes. it's much harder. and they don't -- someone like pelosi, a master at understanding leveraged, how the body works, what cooperation means, when it's necessary, all of these things she's developed. alexander acosta cortez has not developed any of those skills yet. she doesn't have that kind of influence in congress that she hasn't social media. >> bret: compare or contrast the progressive wing, not just these four, there are others, of the house democratic caucus, with the tea party of the republicans, the john boehner tried to herd the cats and get votes to pass. is it much smaller, is it much more not a problem for speaker pelosi? >> i disagree a little bit. it wasn't four votes. i think 90 democrats who voted against that migration -- it certainly wasn't four, it was a lot. >> i think they're talking about that past porterville. >> i would just say i would
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not -- i found that interview very curious, the burned-out interview. it was a strange thing with nancy pelosi with her purple manolo's. >> bret: "the new york times." >> "the new york times" ." none chocolate and dismissing his people. they had a huge following and i think if you look at the votes against this bill, it was a lot more than four and to it was just for votes, yes, they don't have an organized group like the freedom caucus, which was formed on the basis of being able to block legislation, so on that basis it falls over. the weird thing is they are being very deferential leadership. they supported pelosi when she was getting hit from the right. if that's the weirdest thing about this. alexandria ocasio-cortez and some of the progressives actually supported her and for these comments -- >> bret: aoc, a glass of water could have beat a 20 year in common. the green dream or whatever,
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their public whatever, those are quotes for me, they are from the speaker. having respect for ourselves doesn't mean we lack respect for her, it means we won't let everyday people be dismissed. >> speaker pelosi comes from the before time, the long, long ago where the aim of the speaker was to hold power, to maintain power, to maintain the majority and then to pass legislation, which she did under president obama, passing obamacare and having the most successful tenor of a speaker probably that we've seen in the past couple of decades. aoc comes from a different time in which legislation is not the way that you represent the people. instead you are a hype machine for everything they believe in public on social media, on tv and elsewhere, that the role that she's chosen to play. i think that kind of tweet from aoc is court of same to nancy pelosi, do you feel in charge? let's test that out. i think at the very least she can change the trajectory of the debate in ways that are much more powerful for four members of the congress. >> bret: i want to turn out to
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soccer politics. equal pay, take a listen to the returning champions. >> i think everybody's ready for it. it's time. put the whole movement on our back. so beautifully, the entire team, the conversation -- i think everybody's ready for it and excited for, to be honest. >> i believe that it would be a fitting tribute to this great women's soccer team to bring legislation to the senate floor that would make it easier for women to get equal pay in the workplace. >> bret: will that happen, susan? >> no. not under majority leader mcconnell. it's possible they could try to move a bill like that if democrats regain the trifecta again, but even then that would be a long shot because the bill is controversial and that it would require reporting data to the federal government on pay for big companies. there could be big cost for businesses, and it could hurt women in the long run because it may be harder to get their foot
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in the door if employers worry about what the consequences will be. if so not going to happen. >> bret: to the get invited to the white house even though some of them don't want to go? >> i don't think so. the president is not inclined to invite people -- there's more than one on that team i would be shocked if they get invited. >> bret: when we come back, a long run for it were here war hero. exactly, nothing. they're completely different people, that's why they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual. they'll only pay for what they need! [ gargling ] [ coins hitting the desk ] yes, and they could save a ton. you've done it again, limu. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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>> bret: finally tonight, and epic cross-country journey. >> people should know that freedom is not free. and what it takes to keep the country free. >> bret: 95-year-old, a wordy mike world war ii veteran trekking across the united states for the second time. he plans to average 13 miles per week with a running buddy by his side. he started in georgia, hopes to make it to california. in 2024, the year he turns 100.
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the veteran is journeying across the country to raise money for the world war ii era lst 325 ship memorial. i'm going to give. thank you for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this week 27. fair, balanced, and still unafraid. here's martha. >> martha: i like that guy's t-shirt. thank you. great to see you. tonight, as team obama and other candidates continue to kind of pylon joe biden all the time, there's a new analysis that looks beneath the numbers of the front runner's current standing and asked the question, is joe biden really the front runner here? first come in the most straightforward way, the answer is yes according to the current polls, but how long will that last? we will look at the trend here. it's been on a steady decline basically since he'd stepped on the debate stage. he will get another shot at that later this month. while he's garnered more endorsements, one measure, really most of the big endorsements have not asked anybody yet including him.