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sunday." >> this hour -- >> maybe we'll all have wires coming out of our bodies one day. >> this is potentially saving people's lives? >> yes. maria: to transportation. to protecting our troops. >> i don't want the kill decision to be made by a sleep-deprived 19-year-old kid. maria: but what could it mean for humanity and is a.i. dangerous in the wrong hands. >> the political military version of a.i. is on the horizon. maria: when you hear the word artificial intelligence, what comes to mind. take a second to think about it.
do you realize how prominent a.i. is in your life today? maybe you use facial recognition on your smart phone or gps to help you avoid traffic. the capability of a machine to imitate intelligent human behavior. imitate. but we have only scratched the surface. will computers transcend human behavior? will we be cohabitating with robots? are we heading towards a future that doesn't need us as in human beings. artificial intelligence is change our lives from the way we do our jobs to the way we do business to the way we drive a car to the national security tools we use. it has the potential to transform the world making us healthier and safer but at what
cost? tonight, the leading minds will help us understand the good, the bad, and the scary. this new technology brings with it concerns. your assistants are getting smarter. the next level of computing has arrived. and it's software studying your routines. listening to your voice and recognizing your speech. watching you work. learning your habits. enabling the machine to take over routine tasks. manage simple calls to return good. organize data. map out a ride, all good from point to point. >> most of people have seen personal computers and cell phones and other devices get smarter with software. but the next kind of software is the a.i. software which takes a lot of information from the real world and can understand it in a way that is too intense for
people to program by hand. so an aivment can do things that are very hard for humans to do because they can look at millions of pictures and find common elements and look at a million eyes and understand which ones are diseased and which ones are not. >> in certain areas of path oughty and raid ollie we can show in cancer detection the computer does a better job than the doctor. maria: the machine will mine through data quickly. the more data collected, the better equipped it will be to anticipate your next move. finish your next sentence. it's artificial intelligence and it's job killing and life-saving. >> let's say we wanted to train a machine. the director of research at ibm. >> it's a well defined task.
if i have lots and lots of examples of the past. you could use all those examples to train a machine and network to be able to sort of make a determination as to whether it is malign or not. maria: the a.i. healthcare market is slated to expand to $36.1 billion in 2025. >> we have been an investor in healthcare. this is a long road. but this is one of the industries so badly in need of aivment. maria: the ceo of ibm mines data to get ahead of disease from cancer to parkinson's. >> we have been working on health and oncology. it's one of the early thing we
started on. we are in 300 hospitals and over 125,000 patients around the world where ai helped the doctor identify the diagnosis and treatment. at mayo klein i can, almost every patient goes through to find out if there is a clinical trial match. you didn't realize how infrequently they were done or done with precision. maria: this is potentially saving people's lives. >> yes, it is. >> in 2013 i was diagnosed with breast cancer and treated in massachusetts general hospital. maria: based on her own diagnosis, the m.i.t. professor is using artificial intelligence to help with artificial intelligence. >> even though m.i.t. and ngh
are just one stop away, they are ages away in terms of technology. a lot of times with machines doing very well in many other industries, they are not doing them in healthcare, which is -- if i affects all of us. >> using data from 60,000 patients, the professor uses a mammogram to learn patterns in breast tissues that could be precursors of cancer. you it can predict cancer as far as five years into the future. >> we are able to detect breast cancer earlier than a radiologist might. maria: the provost at m.i.f.'s teams are driving research. a radiologist and a machine algorithm is doing transformative things in terms of detection of breast cancer.
we have faculty to bring down all the record for ways that have been synthesized for all the literature. and it allows you to design specific chemicals and compounds. you think about that in the realm of drug discovery. maria: before saving lives we'll have to survive the job kill. a.i. is eliminating white collar jobs faster than you think. >> a large number of jobs will be displaceable by a.i. in the next 15 years. maria: the meteoric rights of aivment, we'll be right back. for the talent. employees need more than just a paycheck. you definitely want to take advantage of all the benefits you can get. 2/3 of employees said that the workplace is an important source for personal savings and protection solutions. the workplace should be a source of financial security.
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>> a robot will not harm a human being or through inaction allow a human being come to harm. a robot must obey orders given it by qualified personnel. rule number three, a robot must protect its own existence. maria: though a literary idea at the time. in the years since a.i. has seen a number of major miem stones. 19 -- major milestones. 1950, the initia the ino compute turing test. if a person can't tell the difference between a machine's answer and humans. john mccarthy looking to make
a machine reason like a human. scientists begin to debate if a.i. could become a reality. >> i'm convinced machine can and will think. i don't mean machines will behave like men. i don't think for a long time we'll have a difficult problem distinguishing a man from a robot and i don't think my daughter will marry a computer. maria: a chad pod is claimed he- named eliza. 1968, "2001, a space odyssey featuring one of the most of sophisticated computers. the film intrigued and terrified viewers. >> this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. reporter: millions of americans
bring a mac or pc into their home. 1997wai scores another win lit a toughly and figuratively. deep blue defeats the world chess champion. 2000 as we see a newly limb yum sun microsystems co-founder bill joy pens a piece for wired magazine called "why the future doesn't need us." making human beings an endangered species. >> we give individuals so much power that we most ability to make choice because those are made for us. maria: a.i. goes further into the mainstream as siri becomes a
virtual assistant. >> this town is known as sin city. and its downtown is known as liver gulch. >> a two-day total of $77,147. maria: during a match of go considered to be the world's most of complex game. here, too, a computer wins. >> we are going to see today -- maria: a.i. is everywhere. i visited ibm's ai labs in new york. here they are trying to get ahead of wildfires using artificial intelligence to detect which forest is most of vulnerable. >> we have hundreds of layers of
jeof -- of geospacious data. this is where fires took place in california, and what we do here is we take layers and we have selected a few layers, vegetation index of the united states, daily precipitation and temperature data. so we take that, and in a matter of hours we can create an ai model that uses that data to create a wildfire index prediction. maria: at m.i.t. in cambridge, massachusetts, the professors ruse is in charge of the computer science and artificial intelligence lab at m.i.t. her students are identifying jobs people don't want, like
separating recycled bottles and cans. >> this robot is able to grab an object, squeeze it a little bit to figure out what material it's made up. and it decides it's made of metal, plastic or paper and it recycled it automatically. this is extraordinary because recycling is such a terrible job. we hope to offer people working in the recycling injury to operate the robots from a distance. maria: but artificial intelligence is only as effective as the information it is given. if there is bias in the data, the result will reflect it. the results were mixed on the
chihuahua puppy and blueberry muffin. >> they are running around doing errands for us, but it's the job of the human to interpret what the system has done. for this reason, the use of these technologies require that we think carefully about how we insure consumer confidence. maria: in march of 2018 an uber self-driving car made national headlines after striking and killing pedestrian in tempe, arizona. the incident heightened the public's concerns over how ready we are for self-driving vehicles to hit the streets. a self-driving vehicle has sensors that perceive the world around it.
similar to the way we use our eyes. >> all of the driving experience we train and test the vehicle, it never forgets that experience. >> the founder and ce off of an autonomous vehicle platform company lead headquarters in pittsburgh. he says self-driving cars will be safer than humans behind the wheel. >> it never gets distracted. we'll be able to i believe eliminate roadway fatalities and injuries. we are teaching the car to see, so it has to have perception. maria: the ceo of ford motor. >> we are teaching it to decide. as it gets input, it has to make choices. and it's teaching it to direct. maria: ford joined forces with volkswagen investing $2.6 billion in argo.
maria: it's in self-driving mode? >> yes. you can see green lights just above the dashboard. maria: i took a trip out to argo headquarters where they took me for a test run. >> the computer said i want to go that direct. the other one is the steady green. when there is a steady green light, you know you are in auto. the next part, there are real people on the road, and we can learn everything we need to after the fact by taking log data we are storing on the computers in the car. we can pull that data out and replay what was going on. what was the car thinking. and what it would have done. >> am i in danger of my car getting hacked and driving somewhere i don't want to go? >> this is a big challenge even
with vehicles. the way we designed it today, in our architecture we cordoned off the system so a hacker can't get inside and have control of the whole car. particularly the power and acceleration and steering. it is the kind of thing that you are trading here, you will have all this power that will hope you have a better day in your life that some bad people will try to figure out how to manipulate that. maria: if machines are so good at our jobs, where does that leave the rest of us. the power of a.i. sparks debates about the ethics of unleashing. it. h... what's up with your... partner? not again. limu that's your reflection. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ experience the style, craftsmanship, and technology
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first to houston, texas where he participated in a welcome rally for independent's prime minister. then he was off to ohio to tour a paper recycling plant with australia's prime minister. protests in hong kong seemed to have taken a turn for the worst. they vandalized a chinese flag. protesters are demanding great autonomy. i'm aishah hasnie. now back to "artificial intelligence, the coming revolution." maria: in the summer of 2019, two million people took to the streets of hong kong to protest
china's authoritarian rule, knock down facial recognition cameras in the process. they used the cameras to identify anyone attending the protests. china has an advanced state sponsored surveillance network. >> china is willing to be much more aggressive. it doesn't see any restraints. >> they are willing to use and apply a.i. in all these ways where we are slower. maria: the ability of a computer to recognize a person's face can be used for unlocking your phone or photos. this a.i. bar in london uses your face to put you in a queue when you walk up to a bar.
the fierce over privacy and human rights expand across the world. >> china has so much data because they are running a police surveillance state. maria: his company makes drones and military warfare. >> i don't think the people of the united states want or will accept mass surveillance of our population. i am not going to work on that technology because i don't want it to be used that way. maria: san francisco became the first american city to want use of facial recognition. civil liberties groups worried about abuse by government. >> it will help us cure cancer and address almost every issue that we are concerned about. but it-also raise new concerns. something like facial recognition.
it can be used to follow us around the shopping mall. it can be used in other countries to open the door to mass surveillance. maria: google's project uses a.i. to pinpoint intelligence from drones. google says it's as simple as its principles did not line up with the government. facial recognition is only one part of the power of a.i. from machine learning images and data collection and its potential to replace millions of jobs. it's sparking a debate on how to unleash it in an ethical way. >> it's a little like nuclear. you don't let everyone have nuclear bombs. maria: the black stone group -- you get the m.i.t. $350 million
and they will build the scooflt computer. this is a big number. it's obviously going to move the needle at m.i.t. >> i met a lot of the people, and they have a national policy of developing artificial intelligence using their universities, their come this and military. and i looked at what was going on in the united states and we didn't have that level of focus. maria: he pledged $190 million to oxford university. >> part of it is in the hands of people. so we can control, regulate other types of mechanisms to introduce the technology in a way that is really good for people. and minimizes disruption. it's like the industrial revolution on steroids.
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tellers and jobs like that will be the first to be challenged. then repetitive blue collar jobs like dishwasher. assembly line workers, and a little bit later drivers also will be challenged. maria: li says in the next 15 years 44% of jobs will be replaced by machine. he says anything any job that relies on data can be done easier and faster by a ma she. later, jobs like trucking will be replaced. >> the vehicle will replace some kind of job that drivers are required to do today. but it will create new stunts because of the expansive effect on the economy. the whole nature of warehouses will change. there are piles of inventory waiting to be sold are in the
wrong place. but with the economy you can move things around very quickly. we can make the size of the vehicles very large over the road trucks with very small pods. maria: we have seen technology replace workers for years now. but a.i. is deepening the threat. it goes far beyond truckers. supermarket chain testco will charge the cart as they leave. amazon does the same it's use robots to move inventory in its warehouses. and it's testing drones to deliver packages. an a.i. powered voice technology at the drive-thru. other burger joints are experimenting with robots in the
kitchen. this robot flips burgers and can learn and acquire new skills over time. companies are increasingly using speak recognition for telemarketing and call centers. speech recognition has been so sophisticated studies show customer satisfaction is shire with a.i. and a person. >> 86% customer satisfaction in that engagement. and half of all the calls are managed automatically. maria: su li predicts 86% of workers at the call centers can be replaced. >> as long as it's quantitative in nature, over time it will
eventually get displaced. maria: he says 40% of jobs could go away in the next decade. >> i will believe it when i see it. it's not showing up in any of the numbers. most of jobs are not repetitive. we are not an agricultural society, repetitive parts of agriculture were aught bhaitd tractors and farm equipment. we are not in the industrial economy anymore a lot of manufacturing has been automated. so in a way the parts that could ease lid been automated have already been automated. do you want to automate your yoga instructor and kindergarten teacher and doctor's office. maria: the way investment in the digital economy of did in the
90s, investment into a.i. is expected to soar. now some 2,000 companies with a.i. is a core part of their business model globally. price waterhouse cooper says it will add $16 trillion to the global gdp. >> is a.i. going to put everybody out of work? i am not worried about this. we are so unimaginative about what future jobs will look like and what they are going to be. >> the superstar companies that have grown to $100 billion and up. a lot of those companies will be using that machine learning technology to make our operations more efficient. amazon is trying to get rid of people delivering people to your door with a scooter or drone. a lot of it is about technology to get people out of the loop to cut costs.
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helped develop the atomic bomb during world war ii. this gave any country who obtained it a military advantage. he changed the world when he delivered our secrets to the soviets. the next generation of powerful military technology is here and some say it has the potential to do more damage than the nuclear bomb. it is artificial intelligence. >> he who wins a.i. will become the ruler of the world. putin believes they will win with a.i. building robots and artificial intelligence that does a great job of working with people. people should not have to be in the line of fire. i think it's the same thing with a lot of military jobs. the guy who's driving the truck on the convoy. that's a job for a.i., not a person. bomb disposal will be handled
largely by a.i. and robots. maria: unclassified r and d is up 15 percent. designation of a.i. as the administration's priority. some say the problem is china is spending much more on a.i. investment and financing in a.i. reached $39.5 billion in 2017, with china accounting for 70% of that expense. >> a.i. is growing by leaps and bounds. we are using it to help control drones in the air as well as on the sea. china also is rapidly building this capability. i think their advancement is greater than ours. >> the thing about the united states, we are at a strategic disadvantage because of the ethics we have. we are not willing to let
machines decide what targets to kill and not kill entirely on their own without human soup vying. vyingo d -- shiewsm supervision. russia and china have no problem with any of those things. maria: google walked away from a contract with the pentagon. >> in the united states's great that you have the right to do that. i want companies to work the u.s. department of defense. but they have the right to walk away. but in china that's not the case. there is no difference between the civil sector and military sector. that's why when you help chinese companies work on artificial intelligence you are almost directly helping the chinese military work on artificial intelligence. a lot of people, a lot of companies in silicon valley see china as the ultimate business opportunity, not the ultimate adversary.
maria: while google pulled out of the pentagon contract, they have an a.i. lab in china. >> the argument is google's r & d effort. this means a lot of different things and can be used in a lot of different ways. it clearly has a lot of military applications from processing satellite images, helping create process data. automating drone warfare. cyber warfare. there are all these ways a.i. is a dual hughes thing for military and civilian uses. maria: we reached out to google and a spokesman said the allegations are baseless. >> any innovation that happens in china's industrial economy must be brought ultimately to the people's liberation army. it's part of their objective to close the gap with the u.s.
military. it's designed for conflict with the u.s. and their allies. maria: china's 2025 goals target the country to be the world largest super power. it's pursuing a.i. to track citizens and military deployments. >> the chinese behavior is agreesist among every dimension of international power. their weapons systems, space technology, all those things that can project power beyond their own country. maria: using a.i. in the it in raises important questions. who should be in charge of making the calls to kill. man or machine? drones can be program offed to shoot at man and objects if they are hostile.
but who makes the call, reacting in seconds. >> if we don't lead and define the rules how a.i. will be used in warfare, it will be defined by russia and china. maria: how can a.i. do things better than people? >> there is a whole bunch of things. let's say you want to predict where you will need certain military assets before you perform some action. doing that prediction takes huge teams of people doing analysis with enormous quantities of data. if you need to snap your fingers and it's done, a.i. can work faster than a person could. say you want real-time surveillance analysis across hundreds of thousandsize. and bring it all into one super powerful brain and think about what it means from those one
million eyes. a person can't do that. maria: we are in what's called the drone zone. the. the company uses sensors and artificial intelligence to help the military. it allows law enforcement and first responders to be aware of their surroundings. this drone can see as far as 600 meters away. >> the ultimate idea is to give soldiers and other first responders a perfect picture of everything going on around them. and a perfect picture of what's happening in the near future. a.i. will be used to allow people to plan better. and we want people making those decisions to have as much information as possible. i don't want the kill decision over an ambiguous target to be made by a tired, sleep deprived 19-year-old kid who is worried he's about to be shot in the head. that's not how you get the most
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artificial intelligence is about to enter the fifth generation of telecom. we been talking about ai for a while. now we are on the doorstep of much faster computers. how does 5g change all of the. >> i think it's part of the data collection network and the more data you have the more capabilities you have to do these types of analysis. >> it has come a long way since simple mobile calls to today having the fastest infrastructure network combined with ai will mean that an ai powered computer can analyze data that much faster. but with computers enabling so much, so fast, replacing jobs in the process, it is worth questioning just how smart we want machines to become. are we heading toward a future like the one seen in the terminator film franchise where they become so smart they want to take over the
human race. >> do you see a time where machine can actually keep on intellectual tasks that a union can do. >> not for a long time. and if it replaces humans altogether we have totally different problems. they've been sounding the alarm without proper oversight for years. in 2017 elon musk tweeted china, russia, soon all countries with strong computer science, competition for ai superiority at a national level, most likely the cause of world war iii, in my opinion. he cofounded open ai, a company that recently received $1 billion from microsoft and developed computers that will mimic the human brain. while ai is used largely to help people by taking on routine tasks, the machines are not generally intelligence. they are fast learners and good at certain functions, but they can't reason or problem
solve, show emotion or apply one idea to her different task away human brain can. with artificial general intelligence and machine will be able to teach itself. >> if you ask a machine to say hey, create a business plan, we wouldn't even know how, that's a very general form of intelligence that requires understanding and creativity. working with people, forming teams, raising capital. >> so at some point could that computer and up and understanding how to put a business plan together based on the knowledge. >> if ultimately, the question ultimately is couldn't artificial form of intelligence exist, i think the answer, scientifically is yes. whether we have enough understanding to create something and understand the nature of intelligence.
>> so when will humans be coexisting with robots? is it ten years away, 50, 100. >> the thing about artificial intelligence as you can see these huge leaps out of nowhere. ten years ago you couldn't have imagined the things being done with ai today. because of a few breakthroughs we have been able to do incredible things in just a few years. i think there's a chance that happens again. the hypothetical general artificial intelligence, nai. [inaudible] hypothetically it could happen tomorrow. we need to be ready for the when those types of jumps to happen. >> can humans exist when there's machines that are godlike. >> there's been science fiction movies made about this but in the long run the amount of power in these intelligence machines will bring is something we really don't have the vocabulary to talk about how to cope with it so in their ability to understand, i think it's a challenge for us
long term. >> whether we ultimately see the kind of general intelligence that produces the terminator is hard to know. are we headed for art imitating life, i maria, thanks for watching. ♪ ♪ ♪ good evening and welcome to the next revolution. this is the home of positive populism. tonight a really popular show. we bring our extended conversation with yvonne ketchum on how she in this tribpresident and administration are delivering on that big 2016 promise, jobs, jobs, jobs. will also cover california's homelessness catastrophe and in our 2020 update, wait till you see who the betting market is putting money onto be the democratic nominee. but first, i want to put my conversation with ivanka trump into the broader economic context