giving props for playing a great game. the video going viral. and that's good. that's it for this "special report." fair, balanced and unafraid, "the story" guest hosted by my friend harris faulkner starts right now. >> good to see you, bret, thank you. breaking tonight, as we speak, about a mile from the studio here in new york city at a hotel right across from the united nations, iran's president puts on a us on a hunting is sd to be meeting with french president . the situation is escalated by the minute and the french president is trying to mediate. a short time ago president trump said no thank you. >> we don't need a mediator. iran wants to do something and i don't think we need a mediator. he's a friend of mine, but we are not looking for any mediators. they know who to call. >> thanks for joining us, i'm harris faulkner in prime time tonight for martha maccallum and you are watching

"the story." president trump has not rolled out a meeting with the iranians. he told reporters he never rolls anything out. iran has not said the same. their message, no talks until u.s. lifts sanctions and reenters the iran deal. so tonight, as host of potential talks appear bleak and in the wake of the attacks on saudi arabia's oil field earlier this month, iran's foreign minister mohammed javon sharif is offering this dire assessmen assessment. >> i'm confident -- i'm confident that whoever starts it will not be the one who finishes it. >> harris: that sounds like a threat. fox news correspondent at large geraldo rivera with me right now. he met with him just over the weekend, you have an interesting take on this. i follow on twitter. >> thank you, harris. >> harris: and i want to ask you -- >> i felly on television. >> harris: okay, thank you.

you seem to be from your tweets, things like fighting children who grow up in the united states and having some space to give him to relief sanctions, why are you so pro-iran? >> what i am is pro-fairness. it and i think the united states citizenry has been sold a bill of goods. making saudi arabia the good guys somehow. 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers. the financers of every religious school in the muslim world. saudi arabia is not the friend of the united states. the fact is that iran has been made the bogeyman. iran did a terrible thing back in 1980 when the argument -- >> did you just say that iran made -- that we made iran the bogeyman? >> we have, definitely. >> harris: they held american citizens and double mats for 444 days inside the iranians -- rather the american embassy.

>> we shut on the civilian aircraft and killed over 150 civilians, including children. we are not giving iran any fairness in terms of our deliberations. we opt to side with the saudis regardless of what they've done and i have done horrible things. >> harris: so wait a minute, are you saying then that iran was legitimate if it did in fact hit the saudi oil field? >> i'm saying that war is war. saudi arabia has been hitting yemen, supported by iran, for four and a half years. for four and a half years, saudi arabia using american bombers, american jets, have been killing yemeni civilians. it they've been funerals, weddings, they have been absolutely committing more crimes. >> harris: is no one -- >> the yemeni faction that the saudis are fighting have tried with their drones and could very

well -- they say -- the iranians are vehement in their denial that they did this attack on the saudi oil. it is not really a credible denial to think that the yemenis could mount that attacked themselves seems far-fetched. it seems almost nonsensical. but they are saying that war hits both ways and this -- it was saudi arabia's territory that was hit by iran may be. that's between iran and saudi arabia. it's not between the united states. >> harris: let's just slow down for a second. you know they took out our our queue for a global hawk drone. >> they claim it was over their territory. >> harris: and we say the straight of hormuz. that thing was the size of a 737. the president held back. he has held back time and time again. >> and i appreciate that he did. >> harris: and now we have deployed troops to the region at that deployment -- not anything on their soil, not anything a direct threat, that has brought them a more direct threat towards the united states, and we know how they feel about

israel, iran. >> i don't think bringing israel into this -- >> harris: then why are you bringing the saudis into this? >> because the saudis in the iranians are the two major powers in the persian gulf. >> harris: i get that. >> the control discussed oil reservoir. they hate each other. one is the prime she had country, the other is the prime sunni country. they've been at each other's throats for decades. it's not our fight. >> harris: i want to bring in the president quickly responding to reports of attack near a baghdad american embassy tonight. we don't know all the details in this, but he was just act about it at the u.n. we note the french president is trying to meet with ronnie of iran. and we watch that really quickly? >> i don't know anything about it, they just all makes breaking news i will have to see it. i haven't heard. when did this happen? >> just now. >> no. we will look into it. >> harris: look --

>> al qaeda. >> harris: let me finish. we don't want to connect the dots here but i'm saying that while these meetings are going don to mike on the u.n. general assembly and everyone is focused in on iran, your defending iran. there is a lot breaking off in the world. what you think about the french president trying to mediate? >> i think it's great, but i also think that having spoken with him for the third time, an extensive conversation, he says that president -- his boss, the iranian president, will not meet with the american president outside the four corners of the jcpoa. the nuclear agreement that president trump withdrew from. they have a meeting scheduled for wednesday at the general assembly. if rouhani were to come to that meeting and president trump is at that meeting, it is very possible that they can talk and then -- >> harris: you know who said they won't talk? at there. the president says never was anything out. >> speaking with the foreign minister, he definitely off the

door open that if the president -- our president was to go to that meeting on wednesday, that rouhani and trump could speak and maybe take the conversation out into the hallway at the president, our president does. i think you got to talk to these people. you've got to negotiate with these people. you've got to me, you know, more fair-minded. >> harris: everybody wants to avoid war. everybody is on that page. after bringing a senator or an expert in you're welcome. my next guest has a much different take on geraldo rivera and a new piece for foxnews.com, republican senator rick scott says "iran's leaders have sent a message that if they can't sell oil, then no one can." that is essentially a declaration of war," gary rick scott, sits on the armed services committee and joins me. i think you probably are geraldo rivera and i would say he is somewhat defending iran, i want to get your reaction. >> first of, i just got back from israel a couple weeks ago and it went to the lebanese border. i went to the gaza strip.

they are supporting hamas. hamas is shooting rockets off. putting appealing balloons with explosives to her children in israel and so -- and clearly iran is -- they are constantly saying they want to annihilate israel and we know that the missile that the facilities came from iran, there's no question about that. i think their goal is to dramatically impact the oil markets. was going to get hurt, it's actually not going to be the united states, it's going to be europe, it's going to be china but if iran actually wanted to be part of the world community, stop being -- stop getting all of these -- giving weapons to all of these horrible individuals -- or groups that are trying to annihilate israel and because all this unrest in the middle east. try to be part of the world market. it's crazy, what they are doing. >> harris: 's were to talk about -- again, i've got geraldo rivera sitting by as we kind of been drawing at one another over the fact that he seems to support iran in this

process. senator, you're saying that you're fairly certain now that he wanted this. have you seen intelligence that maybe you can share anything about meg because democrats are saying we have to wait and see. >> look, it's always good to do everything we can to make sure -- every bit of intelligence that i've been told about is that it came from iran. they did this. is geraldo right that we should be disgusted with what the strategies did with khashoggi? that was absolutely the wrong thing. but rather than taking saudi arabia, let's make sure let's hold iran accountable. why are they doing what they're doing with hezbollah. why are they doing what they're doing with hamas? why would they called -- they clearly have said they want to annoy out the mic annihilate israel, our partner, our ally. >> harris: senator, we have sold them weapons. in saudi arabia, can they not hold on. i think it's a legitimate

question to be able to at least ask about what they can do for themselves. >> absolutely. here's what you should be impressed with, israel defends itself. we provided a lot of resources. you really have to admire the israeli defense force. we should expect that for all of our allies. so my focus though is iran has got to change. you want somebody to have a nuclear weapon if it wants to annihilate your ally? you can do that. >> harris: death to america too. >> right. they want to annihilate israel. they want to wipe them off the face of the earth. what do they say, there's not going to be enough gravesites for all the people they are going to kill in israel? >> it's an act of war. >> not somebody want to do business with. >> i love you as a governor, i

love you have a senator. but if there was an act of war to a protected saudi on the oil then why is it an act of war to choke iran so they can't sell the oil? isn't at the same thing connection to be fairness? the president unilaterally said he wants to renegotiate the nuclear deal, so let's renegotiate the nuclear deal. >> harris: geraldo, you got to step in. sender if you would like to respond. >> geraldo, i agree with you. the first thing we ought to try to do is sit down with people, but it's very difficult when somebody is saying death to america and they are saying -- >> harris: do you think that we might see that? >> wiped off the face of the earth. >> harris: is there a place that may outside the official general assembly meetings that the french president or anybody can facilitate that? president trump says he doesn't need anybody's help because he's open to sitting down with anyone buried him >> president trump -- he doesn't want to go to war. he talks to everybody. they've got to be part of this.

what has iran done to say they want to have a legitimate conversation? >> harris: i haven't. they just want back in a deal. europe is got to be feeling conflicted. >> it's a bad deal. >> harris: more of the coalition will have to come along but they are still in that deal. it's complicated. senator rick scott of the great state of florida, thank you for joining with that and being patient as geraldo's mike is still hot. good to see you. fox news has confirmed the whistle-blower that filed a complaint against president trump did not have firsthand knowledge of that july phone conversation with the ukraine president. what this bombshell piece of information means for democrats, next. >> if a republican ever did what joe biden did, if a republican ever said what joe biden said, they'd be getting the electric chair by right now. ♪ ue! its three times concentrated liquid formula coats

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♪ >> harris: a surprising new development in the case of a whistle-blower was complaint about president trump's phone call with the ukrainian president has set off a political firestorm. a source now has fox news that whistle-blower did not have quote unquote first-hand knowledge of the conversation and that "typically multiple u.s. officials are on such calls with the president, but this would indicate the whistle-blower was not one of those people." senate democrats are now employing their republican colleagues to issue a subpoena for the complaint. house democrats also want their hands on a copy when acting director of national intelligence joseph maguire testifies in front of the house intel committee this thursday. i want to bring in now karl rove, former deputy chief of staff to

president george w. bush. and mo elleithee, executive director of georgetown university's institute of politics and public service, both are fox news contributors. let's start if we can with the startling development today about not firsthand and what that dumps into the political conversation. carl. >> well, it's a big news item. it obscures some bigger issues that lie behind it but look, here somebody that honestly saw some kind of written summary, a written report on the president's conversation, was not privy to it, may not have seen the entire transcript, but filed a whistle-blower complaint and what we know is that first of all, the president has a right, any president to have confidential conversations with foreign leaders. he is, after all, under the constitution charged with the direction of america's foreign policy and the idea that every conversation the president of the united states would be subject to the call of the united states congress upon a whim would be an utter

unmitigated disaster for the conduct of u.s. foreign policy. >> harris: you know the other part of it, mo, really has to do with the anticipation of the foreign leaders who also expect for those calls to be kept confidential. >> sure. but, this whistle-blower pass this information along to the inspector general for the intelligence community. the inspector general found it to be urgent and credible. enough to submit it to the director. it inspector general's don't tend to to go off willy-nilly d just take your say at face value. they look into it and then if they find it urgent and credible, they will pass it on, and that's the case here. easiest way to come to the bottom of this is look at the transcript. >> harris: you know that dni letter said not to meet the right requirements. go ahead. >> yeah. i was just going to say, that was what the inspector general said, his boss, the acting director of national intelligence deferred the issue to the department of justice, and the office of legal counsel

came back and said the sad statute -- doesn't apply to the president of the president of auschwitz communications. there is no authority to do this -- and i repeat, we went all the conversations that president obama had. we went all the conversations that president bush had. we want the primer stations that president clinton had. what congress would stand for that -- what president would stand for that if congress made those demands? none of them would buried >> harris: real quickly, we put together some calls for impeachment based on all this might even with the facts that have first, let's take a look and i will get reaction from each of you. >> he has solicited another foreign government to attack our election system. it is time for us to call out this illegal behavior and start impeachment proceedings right now. >> manager absolutely right away begin impeachment proceedings. >> that may be the only remedy

that is coequal to the evil that that conduct represents buried >> harris: that thirst is real in your. >> yeah, sure it is. but look, i've always been a voice that says let's not go too fast on the impeachment front, let's get all the information. i think there is a situation here that could resolve this issue in a very measured way, and that's give the transcript to the senate intelligence community. the senate intelligence community has a record of working in a very bipartisan way with the chair and vice chair and trying to get to the bottom of issues. they haven't gone sort of throttle throughout the term presidency the way the house ha has, so give the transcript to the senate intelligence committee and let them look at it. >> harris: prior to the release of the mueller report and they said if it shows with the president didn't actually commit a crime, if there's nothing there they are, if there's no smoking gun, so to speak, we will move on.

i would ask the same thing now. democrats have to be very careful with this. quick last word, karl. >> they have to be. elizabeth warren is sitting there saying nobody should invite them into our political campaign. how tone-deaf is she? fairly clinton in 2016 -- an opposition research from that offered an expert foreign service agent within called up his friends in the russian intelligence community in moscow and said do you have any dirt on donald trump? if we are talking about people who should be impeached, because with the president supposedly did, what about hillary clinton? was elizabeth warren upset when she found out that hillary clinton was inviting -- her campaign was inviting the people in the russian intelligence community to dump dirt on donald trump, really? >> i get why folks do this. on that side of the aisle. but this is a serious allegation, let's look into it buried >> harris: mo, karl, thank you both.

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$50 million. if your first 50 million is free and clear, but your 50 millionth and first dollar, you got to pitch into sense and $0.02 for every dollar after that. >> harris: elizabeth warren in iowa this weekend where she's surging into first place for the first time among democratic caucus goers in the new "des moines register" poll and if she continues that rise, it could lead to more divorces, at least 21 harvard economist. a new analysis suggests her proposed wealth tax may create an incentive for rich couples to get a divorce. here's why. if the couple is worth $100 million they would pay a 2% tax on anything over 50 million, she was just explaining that. meaning a one million-dollar wealth tax, but if they get divorced and split their fortunes and have to begin with, each worth 50 million, they would avoid that tax entirely. here now, how a car, host of the howley car show and author of what really happened.

you should tell hillary clinton that, i understand -- i literally did it on outnumbered overtime. with this -- i know it's maybe a little tongue-in-cheek, but what's wrong with the tax plan? >> she sits in the seat, harris, that was once held in the u.s. senate by john fitzgerald kennedy and when he was president he famously said proposing a tax decrease, a rising tide lifts all boats. she avidly didn't get the memo. this tax has been tried in various european countries and it hasn't worked. there's ten countries in europe including some of the art to largest once a path this tax and it failed. france, germany, italy, ireland and sweden among others. it leads to people moving out -- in france it was estimated they were losing twice as much money that they were raising, people were just moving up to belgium. and the problem is that there are going to be these exempted

assets and so how do you judge, really, how much of farmland is worth -- this is going to be a boon for lawyers and accountants and assessors, but it's going to be all kinds of fraud here obviously. >> harris: before i have to let you go, is this popular? in particular in iowa, where she's rising? selling this plan right now. >> i can't imagine that the farmers think about this, they are going to go for it, but then she's going to say i'm going to exempt agricultural land. what that would mean is that the rich people i'm a so-called, would start buying agricultural land and that would distort the values. like the millionaires tax, harris, you know how it works in the eastern seaboard. connecticut, maryland, new jersey, they try to institute a millionaires tax,

and guess what, if the supply of millionaires fails and have to go lower and lower. economists are already already talking about dropping this down -- they are already talking about dropping it down to $25 million to be people getting divorces. it's the same thing with the millionaires tax. they keep dropping it down. it was only for millionaires, then it's only for people making 500,000, then 250,000. >> harris: it easily slides south of there. how we car, great radio show, everybody tune in, thank you for being on the program. >> thank you harris. >> harris: one-on-one with secretary ben carson after a three day tour across america to investigate the homelessness crisis. >> as we walk the streets and toward housing facilities and shelters with secretary carson, he revealed that the administration has a plan to turn things around. >> i think we're going to be helping them certainly within a matter of weeks.

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>> nearly half of all the homeless people living in the streets in happen to live in the state of california. what they are doing to our beautiful california is a disgrace to our country. >> president from calling out the crisis in california where homelessness has reached record levels. a booming economy with record low on appointment, california is a land of extremes. they've got the wealthiest of the wealthy on one block and tent cities racked by filth and violence on the next. we took an exclusive trip to los angeles, san diego, and san francisco with hud secretary ben carson. ♪ >> martha: los angeles is home to more than 36,000 homeless.

in san francisco, 8,000. and in san diego, 5,000. now more than ever, residents are paying the price. gale, a store owner in san francisco, was bitten on the arm by a homeless man trying to steal from his store. >> would been held up by gunpoint. number one. a taxi cab through this door. and then last night our story got broken into. just yesterday a cashier got pepper sprayed. i've been bitten twice. i found people in the bathroom who have needles in their legs who are blue. >> martha: it hit the hardest in downtown los angeles, where thousands of americans are without a job, a bed, or the assistance they need. >> the 29th -- the 22nd i was certain, the 29th they kicked me out, my birthday was may 28th. it's about the money. i played loud. they are going to come up and

hear me for my story. >> martha: it's gotten so bad the public toilets once overrun with needles and prostitution are now monitored around the clock by. >> people used to go up and use it as a hotel, motel, holiday in. it was like the wild, wild west. >> martha: so how did this happen to so many people? >> i'm in a shelter, can't believe this. i received a lawsuit that besides because of code violations i could no longer live in my house. i have a masters degree. >> i worked in sales for many, many years. prior to that i was in law for a couple of decades. i have a degree in theater and i raised two kids. >> martha: president trump has his theory on how california failed. >> the left-wing agenda of total government domination, crushing regulation, crippling taxes, unrestricted migration. even the cities like los angeles, look at was

happening. it's like look at what's happening. san francisco. take a look at what's going on, and we are going to have to step in and do something about it. these are all great american cities and they are an embarrassment. what the democrats have led have been very >> martha: as we walked the streets and toward housing facilities and shelters with secretary carson, he revealed that the administration has a plan to turn things around. >> i think we are going to be helping them certainly within a matter of weeks. we are not talking months and years. certainly people from hud will be coming in some of the other agencies as well. >> does that include you? >> it may. >> martha: 's plan could involve public-private partnership. >> 3300 -- >> it's almost like -- >> it is. >> martha: reverend andy bell, ceo of union rescue mission contracted a flesh eating bacteria and lost his leg while tending to the homeless in 2016.

>> we are not treating it like the urgent situation. it is a fema-like, red cross red cross-like disaster, which i have been crying out for in praying for. >> martha: some, like chris, are on the road to recovery. >> addiction, from games, stuff like that. i ended up getting my car, almost a year. i've been here for about 14 months. i got lots of counseling. lots of therapy. one-on-one weekly basis with our chaplains and all of that is helping me. if there's a light at the end of the tunnel, brother. >> martha: and in san diego, the veterans village help the vets in need. >> i was in the navy for 11 years and got assaulted. handled it all wrong with drugs and alcohol and then i knew i had a problem. i knew that i needed help. >> martha: but folks on the ground are not convinced the administration can solve their problem. >> i don't have a lot of faith in the trump administration to

do anything. i would prefer a stronger response to people biting our store owners and our residents. i just think there should be very small tolerance for that. >> i've been with trump since 1977, when we when he had black hair. >> martha: we reach out to the governor's office at all three mayor's offices but only one would go on the record with us. >> we stood up and shelters. one goal, how do you get folks off the street and into a safe, clean, and supportive environment? allowing somebody to live and attend on the sidewalk, it's not compassionate. >> martha: these leaders have yet to get in a room and come up with a coherent plan. until then, the crisis worsens and the beat goes on. ♪ >> harris: dr. ben carson, secretary of house and an urban development joining me now. the first time that we both got to see that full report. first want to get your reaction in terms of the need there. >> the need is overwhelming and

a country like ours, which has so many resources and so much wealth, it really is abominable, particularly when you walk amongst people there on the street and you look into their faces. if you realize a lot of these people have mental health issues. a lot of them have drug addiction. some of them simply have fallen on hard times i don't know how to deal with it but as a compassionate society, it is something that we have to do something about. if we can't just talk about it. should it be the responsibility of the federal government? no. these are local problems and the things that work best when the local authorities take appropriate attention to these problems and then the federal government can help them, the state government can help them. that's what has to be done, that's what is done in places that are working successfully. >> harris: apparently that's not happening fast enough and as a doctor, -- i'm a layperson, this looks like an incredible ethic health crisis just ready to burst. when you hear about the

defecation and all of the hypodermic needles and all of the things that can carry contagion. it's quite frightening, so the president looks at this and he says the federal government can help. if you heard from some of the people in martha's reporting that they don't believe you can. what are the next steps? >> actually the president is extremely concerned about this because of the epidemic that could occur. so we are looking at both short-term and long-term. we have to actually get the people out of there. >> harris: will they go? >> put them in a clean place. i think a lot of them well. and i think that the ones who are reluctant to go, once they see what's happening with the ones who have gone, will be much less reluctant to to go. >> harris: so that's the first step. >> right. then the second step is we have to find a more permanent solution for them. there are some public buildings in the area that can be repurposed for housing. but in the process of doing

that, we are also looking at wraparound services so that we can get these people out of dependency. this has been a chronic problem in our country. we just say let's house these people, we've done our job. that's not sufficient, because the problem will continue to multiply unless we give people a way out. >> harris: secretary carson, this isn't just playing out in los angeles. the numbers are actually bigger in new york city. if we could pop up that graphic there. over 60,000. seattle, king county, over 11,000. district of columbia, 6500, 6200 in boston. i understand why for the president and anybody in an election year california is politically juicy, but it goes beyond that. if the president can really help in california, would he be looking at other places? >> we would hope rather than everybody saying please come and get us out of this situation, that maybe they would look at some examples. if you take a place like san diego, which is in

california, so they can't say this is a unique california situation, but you know, san diego and the mayor there has recognized that one of the big problems is affordable housing. so they are removing all of those barriers, reducing the fees, looking at the regulatory things about height and density in wetlands and all of these kinds of things and actually doing things that make sense, and it works, and it works in other parts of the country as well. best practices, but you know, this is an emergency situation and that's why the federal government is going to have to step in if the local government doesn't do anything. are we willing to work with him? absolutely. but the anxious to work with us? it doesn't seem so, but the door is quite open. >> harris: secretary carson, we will have to go on the road with you again to go maybe to some of those places where it's actually working and getting better, thank you for your time. >> absolutely, thank you.

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so-called climate rebels swarmed to the streets in an effort to bring about a "gridlock standstill." the shutdown d.c. movement part of a global strike and more than 150 countries to push governments into action on climate change and for individuals who want to help save the planet. a bloomberg editorial suggests meatless mondays. "cattle are responsible for vastly more emissions than chickens and pigs in part because their digestive systems produce methane, a potent greenhouse gas." michael knows, most of the michael knowles show at the daily wire and chris hahn, former aide to senator chuck schumer and a syndicated radio host. it michael, i will start with you for just quick reaction. >> ironically, there was a study that came out in 2015 which showed that meatless diets are actually far worse for the environment than the regular meat-filled diets. they increase emissions, the increased energy use, water use, but none of that matters because

the climate hysteria movement is not about science. if it were about science it would be led by scientists rather than by politicians and a mentally ill swedish child who is being exploited her parents and by the international -- >> how dare you. >> you're seeing a political movement and a religious movement and its filling political and religious goals of the left but it is doing very much for science. >> harris: chris, you had a visceral reaction to that, go ahead. >> yeah, i mean, you're a grown manager attacking a child. shame on you. arnott, i'm attacking -- >> relax, skinny boy. i got this. okay? you're attacking a child, you're a grown man. have some -- you're exploiting exploiting -- maybe on your podcast you can get away and say whatever you want because nobody is listening. your national television, be a grown up when you're talking about children. she's trying to save the planet because your president doesn't believe in climate change. and kids need to take to the streets to worry about their

future. you are despicable for talking about her like that and you should apologize our national television right now. >> i think the international left and her parents, who are exploiting a girl with many mental illnesses -- >> you call her mentally ill! take it back now! take it back now! >> she is mentally ill. >> take it back now. >> she has obsessive-compulsive disorder. >> you are despicable. you are despicable. >> you can inveigh all you want, but unfortunately -- >> you're despicable. you are despicable. you're a grown up, be a grown up. >> harris: let's change gears a little bit here. andrew yang, one of the 2020 democratic candidates on the emissions tax earlier today. >> if you project forward what we need to do to reduce emissions, you would want to modify americans diets. you want those cattle producers to have to internalize the cost of missions. what that would naturally do, and some people are going to hate this, but it will probably

make those products more expensive, and that is appropriate. >> harris: meanwhile, andrew yang was seen grilling steaks this weekend, and he said this in a tweet. "that steak made me angry." michael? >> [laughs] welcome of course we see the hypocrisy all the time. prince harry in the united kingdom said that climate change was the most important issue of the month, then he flew on a private jet four times in 11 days. this is not about protecting the environment. we saw and be put out a climate confessional over the weekend. it now we have meatless mondays. these are religious literals. i'm a catholic, so i don't eat meat on fridays. if i was a leftist, i guess i would need meet on mondays. if we really want to help the environment, president trump is done a good job on this, a lot better than all the signatories of the paris climate accord, so i think we should keep on keeping on and leave all of the stones in hysterics off to the side for the left to continue to put on. >> harris: your rebuttal, chris? >> meatless fridays was good enough for the pope and the catholic church, i think meatless mondays would be okay.

by the way, i've been all over america, some of us could use to take a day off from eating meat, it wouldn't kill us and if it helps the environment, great. >> harris: you are obsessed with people's weight. >> usual map too skinny. >> harris: exactly. >> maybe you need a little bit more meat, sorry. >> harris: let's talk about this widely of the democratic talking point as you enter into 2020, do you think a whole lot of voters are focused on this sort of thing, chris? >> i think it's a big issue among democratic primary voters because i think climate is a real issue, it's a real concern. that's why you're seeing a lot of young people take to the streets the last couple of days to urge action on climate change. we have a president right now was a climate change denier. in fact, all the countries in the world -- there's only one party -- one major party in all the countries of the world that denies climate change and that the republican party, which is in control of the white house right now. that has to change. the president needs to face reality and understand that this is a real threat to our society.

we seem bigger storms, were swarms, we seem heat waves. it's affecting farmers in the midwest, it's affecting people on the coast. it's a big problem for our country in a big problem for the future. >> harris: i don't know what you guys normally like outside of television, but wow, thank you. more of "the story" next. [ applause ] thank you. it's an honor to tell you that liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. i love you! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ walking a dog can add thousands walking this many?day. that can be rough on pam's feet, knees, and lower back. that's why she wears dr. scholl's orthotics. they relieve pain and give her the comfort to move more so she can keep up with all of her best friends. dr. scholl's. born to move.

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