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report, fair, balanced and unfrayed, the story hosted by martha maccallum starts right now. >> you going for the nats? >> you are 99.9% fair and balanced, i will call you out, there is no fair or balance in bret's perspective of tonight's game. i'm rooting for the nats tonight. >> there you go, we'll pull for them. >> have a great day, a great evening, speaking about your new book, bret. good to see you tonight. brand-new details for the first time video now of the raid that took out isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi. secretary mike pompeo joins me to talk about the raid, also the infamous ukraine call and new today, democratic senator bob menendez to investigate mike pompeo for home trips back to kansas. and whether or not the
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whistleblower should be outed. lara trump is here with a look at how all of this impeachment talk is impacting the trump campaign, particularly with women voters. and jesse waters is here. a stunning moment played out during a judge's confirmation hearing on capitol hill. >> no, i did not say that. i did do not believe that. it is a fundamental belief of mine that all people are created in the image of god, they should all be treated with dignity and respect. >> tell you the back story on that moment, more on that coming up in a little bit. first fox news jillian turner has more on today's impeachment testimony on the hill. hi. >> hi, martha, breaking this hour, new details about today's
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deposition of two senior state department officials on capitol hill, both of them worked on u.s. foreign policy toward ukraine, both of them worked for kurt volker. croft gave new information about the campaign rudy giuliani led to oust president trump's ambassad ambassador vic. bob livingston, she says called her multiple times last year to push forrian vic's holdover. mr. livingston was seeking the remule af of the ambassador. the other state official deposed today said john bolton had long been skeptical of giuliani influence overio.
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it was a caution key voice with the president on ukraine, which could be obstacle to increased white house engagement. now also breaking tonight, martha, a few moments ago, fox news received images of the raid that killed isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi. the pentagon also releasing video that shows the very moment the compound where al-baghdadi was hiding blew up. this video here shows army special operators approaching the compound from two sides. now commander says every aspect of the raid was planned in minute detail. take a listen. >> pretty clear that the success of the standoff we employed ensured it wouldn't be a shrine or memorable, just another piece of ground. >> the pentagon confirming new information the raid over the
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weekend was staged from inside syria with helicopters using unknown location inside the country, forward-operating base in the hours leading up to the successful mission. martha. >> martha: amazing. jillian, thank you very much. i spoke with secretary of state mike pompeo exclusively about the al-baghdadi raid, the impeachment probe and much more. >> mr. secretary, great to have you with us this evening. today they are releasing new pictures, more detail on this raid that happened. you look back at it a couple days, what does the ground there look like in terms of isis and possibility of reemergence? >> sec. of state pompeo: there is always that risk, martha. there is remarkable undertaking by brave folks who went on to the site. this was months and months, in fact, you could argue a couple years in the making, this effort, focused intelligence effort, joint intelligence
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military effort supported by president trump, guided and directed by president trump led to this remarkable outcome. folks somehow diminishing what took place here, i've heard some of that. had this gone the other way and there is always risk associated with this, had it not been him at the site, had it gone poorly, i promise criticism would be great. this was a bold, proper, appropriate undertaking president trump green lighted and execution was remarkable. >> martha: i know you have thoughts on the "washington post" changing the headline calling him a religious scholar in his obituaries, what did you make of that? >> sec. of state pompeo: boy, they lost their way, i must say. it was sick to do that. this is a man who had killed hundreds. last night on the show, you had parents of kayla mueller, we are working to get her back for those two amazing people. she is a wonderful young woman, to suggest abu bakr al-baghdadi was anything other than a
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murderous terrorist is truly sick. >> martha: there is still criticism and challenge about the decision to pull out of the safe zone between the kurdish area and turkey. this is benjamin hall on the ground, today he was talking to people on the ground in what was a safe zone, this is humanitarian worker from the united states. watch this. >> benjamin: hardest part of this mission is u.s. betrayal of these people. we are responsible then for this unleashing of evil violence. you watch this president trump, i'm praying for you, love you, please change this, it is not too late. >> martha: reports are turkey is starting genocide in syria, reports from kurdish militia, that man pleading with the president saying it is not too late to change this decision and protect these people. what do you say? >> sec. of state pompeo: i'm getting reports from the ground with the general.
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no nation will provide more assistance than the united states of america. usa officials, state department team that works for me, the people can be sure america will lead all the efforts in that region to make sure there is humanitarian ark assistance. >> martha: are you hearing there is genocide in syria? >> sec. of state pompeo: we will make sure they continue to comply with them. >> martha: susan rice, your predecessor in the prior administration says she believed president obama should have been contacted, it is customary to contact predecessor president when large events are taking place. what do you say to that? >> sec. of state pompeo: we were focused on one singular outcome, make sure we got this bad guy, took him off the face of the planet. we did that, made sure we had the right security procedures in
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place, so the story wouldn't leak and facts wouldn't get around. american lives were at risk and would lose the opportunity to take al-baghdadi from the battlefield. we did that, i'm proud of that. for those that want to complain, that is bizarre, they unleashed this, allowed isis to take all real estate that built up calaphate, for them to critique anything president trump has done in nobel effort to take down isis in western iraq and syria, it is outrageous. >> martha: turn to impeachment process underway on capitol hill, there has been a parade of state department officials going through and testifying before congress. yesterday it was alexander vindman, he says things were deleted from the transcript of the call that were specifically about the bidenies and about burisma, investigating both of those. he claims there was quid quo pro for white house meeting and for the aid to be released to ukraine. you were on that call, as well,
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do you agree with him that those items were not part of the transcript, but they were part of that phone call? >> sec. of state pompeo: i don't know what any of the witnesses actually said, we're reporting on leaks from democrats, who have a mission set to take down president trump. what i know is i was on the call, i listened to the call. i thought the way the president handled it was appropriate. we were focused with respect to ukraine strategy, executed on that. don't forget, martha, this administration provided defensive weapon systems to ukraine. >> martha: that is true. >> sec. of state pompeo: i couldn't tell you why or answer if it is because of hunter biden, barack obama and vice president biden didn't give weapons to ukraine, they will have to answer for that. maybe i just don't have the full story. here is what i know. if you are looking for administration that has been tough on russia, helped ukrainian people and ukrainian leadership fight corruption and do things the country needs to
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do -- >> martha: these are people that worked in the state department under you, they have problem with the way this was carried out, people who work in the ukraine department. do you feel torn between the policy that you're upholding under the president of the united states and the policies they wanted to see enacted? they sound disappointed things got pulled away from them, they are all pointing to common thread of rudy giuliani here. >> sec. of state pompeo: martha, i haven't seen the testimony, i wish i had. we are not allowed to have state department lawyers in the room, that is deeply troubling. my understanding is every individual had the same ukrainian policy that president trump had. this is ukraine policy that wanted to provide weapon systems, we did that. this is ukraine policy that wanted to ensure mr. zelensky had resources to push back against corruption we know existed in ukraine. i think the policy every one of my officials was trying to achieve is same one president trump and i were trying to get the outcome on. >> martha: you were on the call,
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was there anything that was on the call that pointed to a quid quo pro? >> sec. of state pompeo: the call was consistent with what i long said conversation with president trump on our policy for awfully long time. part of this administration from the beginning, the ci director and now secretary of state. our policy has been very clear all along with respect to ukraine. the president had real concerns the europeans weren't doing enough, we were -- >> martha: that part is understandable. the question about joe biden and investigating him is the part i think of greatest concern. did you hear anything on that call that is not in the transcript? >> martha: i heard the president clearly on the call talking about making sure corruption, whether corruption took place in the 2016 election, whether corruption continuing to take place, the moneys being provided were used appropriately, consistent with what i understood president trump to be doing all along. >> martha: when rudy giuliani was here and i was speaking with him about this, he expressed the fact he felt they didn't get it,
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the people working on ukraine and he did. he understood the corruption happening in the country and that they might have great intention, but they were not on to what he was on to in terms of the dark underbelly of what is going on in ukraine. did he express the concerns to you and do you agree some folks that worked on that didn't see it the way he did? >> sec. of state pompeo: our team was focused on a singular mission, every conversation i had with state department officials there working on this was focused on a singular mission. our team has been deeply aware -- >> martha: you were not aware of friction between people who thought rudy giuliani was overstepping their bounds? >> sec. of state pompeo: martha, there is always friction in organizations of 70,000 people. i must say, too, ukraine is one of dozens of issues we address everyday at the state department, i know you have people out here who are thinking about impeachment everyday on
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every station, making sure american people are safe. government in lebanon has just fallen, protest in chile rise to level we had to have a meeting cancelled that was important for the world, we're focused on broad issues. >> martha: that is one issue and i have one more question on totally different matter. but the question is, was there anything with regard to joe biden or burisma you were concerned about in terms of national security at the state department? >> sec. of state pompeo: we were focused on corruption. >> martha: you were concerned? >> sec. of state pompeo: if that corruption involved individuals with business interests there, we want to know that. oligarchs that operate outside ukrainian bounds for too long need to be stopped. >> martha: with regard to this, joe biden speaking about state policy and jared kushner role in middle east, here is what he had to say about that. >> the idea you will have children, son-in-law, engaged in
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day-to-day operation of things they know nothing about. >> you don't think jared kushner should negotiate middle east peace solution? >> i don't. i don't. what credential does he bring to that? >> martha: what do you say? >> sec. of state pompeo: vis-a-vis president had eight years to work on that, the united states policy and peace plan led the effort and provide vision in direction, i hope we can roll it out before too long, looking forward to formation and when we do, i am confident people will look at what this administration does and say we got it right. >> martha: do you want to say anything to senator menendez bringing up your trips to kansas, what do you say to that? >> sec. of state pompeo: pretty rich senator menendez is taking shots like that, i went home to kansas, i love kansas, i hope i get to go back more often. i've answered that question.
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i went back for my son's best friend's wedding, it was fantastic, food was great, company was great. got a chance to go to church in our home church, fantastic trip and i hope i get to go back again before too long. it had been two years since i got to go to wichita. >> martha: secretary of state mike pompeo, thank you for being here tonight. our thanks to the secretary of state. former national security advisor, john bolton is slated to testify behind closed doors next week, one of many we watched go down the hall to be questioned. his attorney now saying he will not go voluntarily, no doubt there will be subpoena coming, congressman doug collins coming up next. ♪ (dramatic orchestra) performance comes in lots of flavors.
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>> martha: the testimony before the house by former national security advisor, john bolton, is now slated for next week, but his attorney says that it will not happen voluntarily. the inquiry set to get a full house vote tomorrow morning. we expect that around 11-11:30 or so, full coverage throughout the morning on that, that is expected to formalize the procedure and get everybody to stand up and vote yes or no on whether they want to move forward here, which should be interesting. here now republican congressman doug collins, the house judiciary committee. good to see you you, thank you for being here. so one of the -- first of all, to john bolton, there has been a lot of consternation over what he might say, he's central to a lot of people's testimony that we've heard from. he was quoted by one of them as saying that rudy giuliani is a hand grenade that will blow us up, what do you think about what
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is coming there? >> congressman collins: another idea, was said earlier, we're hearing what adam schiff wants us to hear, this is the problem. john bolton coming or whether he doesn't come or not, left to be seen. we will end up having to subpoena him. there are significant issues with him coming, what we have to understand, no matter what we heard about what john bolton heard, said or done is through the lens of adam schiff, sole arbiter, he's been made the judge, jury and prosecutor of this case. that is the concern that should concern me and the american people, we are not hearing the full story. >> martha: are you glad there will be a vote tomorrow? >> congressman collins: it's sad. they have missed an opportunity all along to make fairness stable of this house. i'm sad that they are shredding the rules and putting vote up tomorrow and tell the members this is something we're codifying and making it fair. here is realization, there is still not letting the president defend himself until it gets to
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the judiciary committee and only then they stick in a rule that is pretty amazing. judiciary committee chairman jerry nadler has no liking for this president. the president's attorneys are not being forthright or desire to ask questions, he can decide they don't get to ask questions, this is sad time for the house of representatives, martha. >> martha: the president tweeted something about this whole discussion earlier today. he was urging republicans to focus on the substance rather than the process here. he says go with substance and close it out because his argument on all of this is that there is nothing impeachable here, that he didn't do anything wrong, there was no quid quo pro, you know, why is there not more focus on that part of the equation from your side of the aisle? >> congressman collins: there is focus on that, martha. think about how we're able to do this. in a dark room, adam schiff has the key to the kingdom, and threatened us we can't talk
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about anything going on, our members talking about what is going on. how bad it has gotten today, i went to view the transcripts and things i'm entitled to view under the terms of the house and told i could not do that. i will argue the substance and talk about bill taylor having fore hand information he takes as first-hand information and the fact i've seen the transcript and there is no quid quo pro. we'll talk about the fact that the ukrainians didn't know any of the discussions were taking place until article in late august they found out it was even something going on. let's go back to the fact they got the equipment they needed, never did anything supposedly demanded of them, no quid quo pro here. you can have both a process argument and substantive argument, process should lead to substantive. democrats decided they don't want any part of either one, they want to impeach the president to run as impeached president. this is blatant power grab by speaker pelosi, who has no consideration for the house. >> martha: lindsey graham said
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they will not get one g.o.p. vote toward impeachment, which does raise that legitimate question that you bring up about the political nature of this and whether or not there is desire to have the president run with the albatross of impeachment around his neck as he runs into 2020 here. i am curious, you are in the house, what you think about this vote tomorrow and how it will look for those members who are in trump districts, who were elected in mid-term who are going to i guess stand up and vote in favor of this process or whether or not some of them, how many of them might be protected by given the okay to vote no? >> congressman collins: right now, golden ticket for all the voters who want to vote no better than willie wonka segment. anybody watching this, any democrat who votes for impeachment inquiry because this is what is going to happen and done in unfair way. do not make any mistake, they vote for this, they go back to
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voters and explain why they voted -- >> martha: if they vote no, you are saying they are voting yes? want it to be -- >> congressman collins: they get it. >> martha: all right, representative, thank you, good to see you. ranking member of the judiciary committee. got a lot of work ahead of you. we'll be watching tomorrow. coming up next, lara trump on the campaign fight to win back women voters. >> pres. trump: last time, he will not get the women's vote, he will not get the women's vote. then after the election, man, he did good with the women. he did good with the women. if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with... increased risk of depression.
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>> martha: warning signs in the polls for trump campaign tonight, support among women could be waning, the president
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won 52% of white female voters in 2016, fox news polling suggests that number could slide this time around. president's approval rating dropped six points to 37% after reaching high of 43% in march. "new york times" report there is massive effort underway led by the president's daughter-in-law lara trump to obtain supporters and find new supporters as the president rages against the impeachment efforts. lara trump joins me now, good to see you tonight. obviously the numbers are what they are, you are always hesitant to believe poll numbers. there is a morning consult poll out there you think is showing some less bad signs. >> lara: we think it is showing great signs, actually, since june, head-to-head match up with the president and joe biden, the president gained 10 points with women and also gaining with
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independents and young voters. >> martha: still under water in both of those, but doing better? >> lara: of course i say people are not honest when it comes to polling with the president. we feel good about the numbers and always said our fundraising supports the fact women are optimistic about donald trump and supporting him. our first quarter, we had over half donations from women, whereas in 2016, that was a quarter from women. >> martha: that is interesting. >> lara: that is a better measure, i think. >> martha: lake, democratic strategist, been around a long time, she said he had a big gender problem, the way he respond is one thing women don't like. this aggressive bullying tone is part of what women don't like about him. you know, obviously the president is in a defensive mode right now with this impeachment process. you know, is there any attempt to sort of put him in a position where women are seeing a different side of the president? >> lara: i think the side of him they are seeing now fighting
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back against false claims, fals like. in fact, the numbers have gone up, martha, in the midst of impeachment nonsense. actually, there is what we call hidden trump voter, "new york times" did a story with the trump women, half of the campaign is comprised of women, more than half, this hidden voter is a group of women out there, who maybe didn't vote for donald trump for the first time around for whatever reason, but they want to vote for him now and just because they are not talking to people about it, we are getting the sense from our fundraising numbers. >> martha: what is driving them? >> lara: for a lot of people, right now they see how politicized people are, that impeachment inquiry, it is a coupe against the president, that is not this country or what the united states of america is about. they are seeing great results from this president, promises made, promises kept, they felt
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results from this presidency, they like the country is safer. >> martha: you worry about the gdp numbers that came out? women are worried about the economy and pocketbook issues, 1.9 on gdp. >> lara: that is still pretty good, not as good as it has been, we feel good about that, the numbers are up for women, reality 6.5 million new jobs created, half to women in this country since donald trump took office. wages are up, people are prospering and that matters to people. >> martha: you are touching on something interesting in terms of how women feel, people in general about the impeachment process and how it is playing in real america is, i think, a question we'll have to dig into for sometime. >> lara: people don't like it. >> martha: thank you, good to see you. lara trump here in new york. stick around, it is wednesday, of course, you know what that means, where is -- he'll be here? what sparked a judicial nominee to break down in tears today?
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bradie >> sorry. >> martha: mmm. this is a stunning scene in the senate today, presidential nominee, lawrence van dyke was brought to tears over claims by the american bar association questioning his qualifications and ability to be fair to the lgbtq community. here is the back story from washington tonight. hi, garrett. >> the american bar association
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has evaluated nominees and most labeled well qualified, but in a blistering letter to the senate judiciary committee, the aba said president trump's nominee to ninth circuit of appeals is not qualified for the bench in part because evaluation found lawrence van dyke is arrogant, lazy and lacking in knowledge of day to day practice, including procedural rules. the aba evaluation didn't stop there and suggested van dyke would not be fair to members of the lgbtq community, a claim he got emotional over when asked to respond at today's hearing. >> did you say you wouldn't be fair to members of the lgbtq community? >> senator, that was the part of the letter -- [sighing]
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>> i did not say that. no, i did not say that. i do not believe that. it is a fundamental belief of mine that all people are created in the image of god and they should all be treated with dignity and respect. >> democrats on the committee are very concerned about the aba's gaelgzs given evaluation is based on interviews with 60 people, mostly judges and lawyers who worked with van dyke during 14 years in law. claims the aba didn't give him a chance to fully respond to the allegations. several republicans are now
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blasting the organization supposed nonpartisan analysis pointing out person conducting the interview previously donated to van dyke's opponent in montana. >> all i can say about this letter, i think it is a shameful xeerz in political bias, i have no context or ability to evaluate any of the accusations that are made here. >> the aba has lost credibility neutral arbiter, should be treated no differently than any other special interest group. it is. >> the trump administration so far has had more than 160 nominees put on the federal bench, five of those were also given labels of not qualified by the aba. i should point out, we did reach out to american bar association and have not heard back from them. >> martha: thank you very much. update on a story we brought you last wednesday night about
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abrams, a woman who claimed nbc news silenced her story of sexual assault. mrs. abrams made the accusations against russell simmons. we reached out for comment and received response after the story aired pointing to prior statements he made denying the allegations of forced sexual assault and statements that he says support him. the decision by some news organizations not to move forward with the story was appropriate in their mind. so, did the white house whistleblower get outed? an investigative report the tonight and whether or not the media has the right to share it. saturdays happen.
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>> martha: tonight the whistleblower at the heart of the impeachment scandal may have been revealed, that coming as testimony today from or yesterday from top ukraine expert, alexander vindman says key words were omitted that were replaced by elipsis. critic john brennan says it was doctored as part of a white house cover-up. >> it sounds as though he did this, some changes were accepted
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and some were not. substantive ones and important ones were left out intentionally. ellipse sis suggest phrases and sentences were left out. i knowledge think it was intentional. brit hume, start with john brennan's comment, he appears to have information on something that he may or may not not have or may not have exactly. >> brit: well, he's compiled a long record of talking to his hat about donald trump, whom he plainly dislikes intensely. he said all sorts of foolish things during the russia collusion excitement and in the end, as it was about to come to a close, the mueller report was about to be issued, he said it would be accompanied by further indictments, it was not. he later was mumbling about how he got bad information, he's had a lot of bad inform agatioinfor sure we should pay attention to
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that. >> martha: with regard to the whistleblower, clear investigation report, not seeing his name, this person's name. we don't know if the investigation report is accurate, although this is sort of bounced arounda quite a bit. what is your thinking from journalistic perspective on this whistleblower, given the circumstances that surround this whole situation? >> brit: remember the whistleblower system internal government system designed to protect people inside the government from being retaliated against for reporting wrongdoing by their superiors or by others in their agencies. it is binding on people inside the government. it is presumably binding on congress, i'm not sure about that. it is certainly not binding on the news media. so someone is a whistleblower and issues a report that leaks out and turns into a huge, big controversy as has happened in this case, we in the media are under no obligation legally or
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otherwise really, to withhold the name, if we find it and the name is undoubtedly newsworthy. i'm not saying that is a good thing or bad thing, but it is newsworthy. the question that arises in this business, if we found out the name, would we go with it? i think the answer is probably yes. >> martha: mmm. it is complicated by the fact finding out that name also might reveal motivations, might reveal relationships, might reveal bias and all of these things that have been poked at the edges with this particular case since the very beginning. and it is of interest, adam schiff sort of lost interest in this whistleblower and wants to not have him testify as part of this, i guess they feel they have plenty of other people testifying. it is the genesis of where it started, brit. >> brit: it is and of course, adam schiff loss of interest occurred when it turned out he and his staff had prior
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consultations with the whistleblower before his report was made. so once that came to light, it raised questions about whether schiff and his team had something to do with helping the whistleblower compose his report or encouraging him to do it or whatever, that would be embarrassing to house democrats trying to mount impeachment inquiry if it turned out they in some respect helped trigger the whole thing. that is line of inquiry sure to be pursued if the whistleblower were to testify. it is not clear how much the whistleblower's testimony matters, if we can believe this rough transcript we had states the case, then we can go by that and not worry too much about the identity of the whistleblower. i'm sure trump administration would like to find out who it is, for sure, that is an internal matter with them. >> martha: indeed, we're following up on it, as network, we'll make a decision how that will be handled as we go
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forward. >> brit: okay, martha, thank you. >> martha: thank you. jesse waters with message to students at elite college who refuse to give president trump any credit at all for the killing of isis leader, al-baghdadi and signing off on the mission in the first place. there he is. hi, jesse. >> jesse: any president could have killed a leader like obama killed osama bin laden, anyone can do it, think about who has the will power, i guess. [ applause ] thank you. it's an honor to tell you that liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. i love you! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ little things can be a big deal. to severe psoriasis, that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently.
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university, it pains me to say many students reluctant to give the commander-in-chief any credit at all. watch these georgetown students. >> do you think he deserves credit? [bleep] donald trump. i will take that as i know. do you think he deserves credit for that? i don't know much about that. >> i guess it happened despite him. so you know [bleep] too bad. >> i feel like any president could have killed an isis leader. like obama killed usama bin laden, like i feel like anyone can do it. just think about who has the will power, i guess. who is taking charge at the moment. it is probably not great he is taking credit for someone being killed in general. speed to in my jaw is on the floor. jesse watters, cohosted "the five" this is georgetown, university. i would expect the students to, give me a better sense that they actually understand the question that is being asked of them.
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that they are aware who al-baghdadi is and what just happened. i'm not convinced many have a clue what the story was, are you? >> i'm not convinced they were georgetown students, oh, my god, martha, who could ever could kill a leader of isis. >> martha: without [bleep]. >> that was really bad. those are the best and the brightest. here is the deal, we know he was not on seal team six, we know that. he is the commander in chief. he gives the orders. the military executes the orders. he ran on destroying isis and he did it appear they were saying anybody could have done it. barack obama could have done it but he didn't do it. remember he didn't have a strategy. he said he didn't have a strategy. maybe if they had spend more time trying to kill isis instead of setting up trump or rush of collusion, they would have gotten all the credit that they want. >> martha: i mean, to me this
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is one of the most difficult decisions any commander in, right and if you come with the president in the oval office who they turn to when you have all of of, mr. president we can do this but we need your go. that is extraordinarily difficult. m joe biden when it was in the bin laden case and he admitted, don't go. it is too risky. it could blow up in our faces and do not go. i don't know that there's a mike those were his exact words but that is the sentiment. >> martha: can you imagine if it goes in the middle of impeachment and the hysteria ovr syria? he would have been crushed. everybody would have been calling for his head. it was a very risky move. the military said it was more risky than bin laden raid and everybody knows the commander in chief gets credit or blame when something happens in the world on their watch. truman gets credit for bombing hiroshima, barack obama gets credit for bin laden, carter
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gets the blame for iranian -- that is the way it is. trump has to see the credit because he never gets the credit for anything good that happens. >> martha: so he has to toot his own horn which doesn't go over well. i would venture to guess if that were the case and it went badly and i hate saying this, but my guess those students would haved happened had it gone badly. i find that really distressing. before i let you go, john legend wants to change to baby it is cold out side to the me to generation. real click here is the original diversion. >> bay become it is bad out there. musical it has to be had out there. >> i wish i knew how. >> martha: app i have one more drink, it is your body and your choice. that will be the new catchy lyric. >> i'm sure she wants everything to be the me too movement, but
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that's not the way it sounds. speak to it doesn't sound romantic. all right, we will see you next wednesday, october 30th, 2019 but >> the story: goes on and we will see you tomorrow night. good night, everybody. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to >> tucker carlson tonight: and by the fourth or fifth decade of communism the experiment wasn't working. almost nothing the soviets said was going to happen ever did. people were restless and frustrated, but they couldn't say so and the authorities lost their credibility and they became hysterical in the hunt for deviations and anyone who complained or asked questions was punished but ultimately the authorities decided any disagreement with official orthodoxy was not simply forbidden, it was a form of mental illness. it had to be. soviet medical literature from the 1960s describes


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