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be there for you, and them. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. steve and i am chris wallace. a saudi air force officer targeted military base. killing three members of the u.s. navy. we will discuss that and the challenges to u.s. national security. in an exclusive interview with the secretary of defense. this hour we will home down i'm the front. the radiance continued to ship missiles i'm the area, to yemen, what will we do. in the president host promises to pull the u.s. troops out of the endless wars. we seem to be pulling back from fighting terrorism. work ronald reagan was leaning forward. assuming we are are joined by news defense secretary. here at the reagan national defense aura.
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only i'm fox news sunday. chris: then - house speaker nancy pelosi formally directing democrats to move forward with impeachment. staying the president's actions need and leave no choice. we'll talk to democratic congresswoman a key member of the house judiciary committee which will hear evidence monday from house investigators. plus the justice department's inspector general, highly anticipated review of the 2016 russia. >>. chris: will ask our son a panel the ig report will be. the president claimed it was all a witchhunt. and our power player the week. is obsessed with spice. in the things that they use to see you. all right now. i'm fox news sunday.
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you are live at the ronald reagan presidential library and air force one that carried our 40th president around the globe in pursuit of peace. and walk into a special hour of fox news sunday from the reagan national defense coram. a gathering of key figures in national security. more and then the moment. but first the latest i'm to developing stories. the release of an american citizen as part of a prisoner swap with iran. in the deadly attack by saudi military officer targeting americans at a u.s. naval base in florida. national security joins us now. jennifer. >> u.s. officials not yet wheeling to call this terrorism overnight the navy release the victims names all americans. joshua watson mohammed, and scott walters lost the recent naval academy graduate.
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he saved many lives by telling first responders join the shooting took place after being shot several times. the shooter saudi royal air force officer, one of 862 saudis maintained in the u.s. right now. he is the handgun with an extended magazine to target americans in the pensacola naval classroom. the fbi is aware of its eye american tweets posted i'm twitter on the shooter news name. six societies were detained near the attack by one have been videotaping. none of them is bad this weekend. held captive by iran for over three years. they are releasing prisoner, for an iranian scientist. >> i think it is great to show that we are doing something. a precursor is what's to come. >> he and his wife ulla me earlier this year that her
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husband being detained and held as a spy while doing research and dion. >> run since he's a spy. he has brought a spy. he is just a history nerd. i wanted to do was doing good research. and then teach. >> four americans are still wrongfully imprisoned by iran in formal fbi agent remains missing. the president indicating he is going to talk to tehran to release american prisoners perhaps a good first step. >> jennifer thank you and we'll see you again later in the hour. chris: as i said, key players in foreign policy and national security gather here each year for the reagan national forum. earlier i set down with the secretary of defense, and more. to discuss the threats to american security. >> secretary expert, welcome
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back to fox news sunday. >> thanks chris could be with you. it's been a. chris: let's start with that terrible shooting and physical. least one of the people saw the officer killed was a recent graduate of the u.s. naval academy. did he target americans. >> will first of all, very tragic incident in our condolences go to the families of those who are killed instantly those who were injured as well. so just join we extend our heartfelt concerns for all of them. in regard to question i don't know yet. that's why it's important to allow the to proceed to understand exactly what was happening. chris: we know the three people were killed. for the americans are not. think most people want to know that. >> my understanding is they were americans that were killed. chris: give a sense of whether he was going after americans. >> don't know that that's why we need to let the investigation play out. chris: there are reports that several
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stews were detained in several or several of them work filling the incident pray for small, is untrue. and there are some top officials wheeling to see, this was a terrorist. >> some were detained, friends of his that we were also i'm the bases i understand it. and i also told that two were filming it. it is unclear where the filming it before began or was it something where they picked up the phone news and filled it was a sigh unfolding. they may be a distinction with or that went out a difference but again, that's why i think we need to let the investigation play out. chris: , no more be a normal response to film one of your colleagues who was shooting americans. >> i don't know, i'm not try to pass judgment at this.time. pete today people film anything and everything that happens. chris: more than 5000 foreign nationals are in pentagon training programs. are you going to review that entire program are you going to try to find some better way to vet and i understand hiring
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hindsight is 2020. but to better vent people and foreigners to come into this country for any links to extremism. >> join the first things i did yesterday in the wake of this news was that i spoke to a deputy secretary of acting navy secretary and others to see that i wanted to immediately make sure that we put out an advisory to all of our bases and installations and facilities. make sure that we are taking all necessary precautions and appropriate to the particular base. to make sure our people are safe and secure. this is number one. number two, he asked that we begin a review i'm winter news winning procedures are with regard to foreign nationals coming into the united states were my understanding is currently of course reviewed by department of see, have been reviewed by the homeland security in and reviewed by us. l make sure that those procedures are full and sufficient. no why's that important. not just because of safety but overall these types of programs exchange are very important for national security. we had something that our potential adversaries such as russia and china don't have which is the elaborate system
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and an alliance and partnerships. and the ability to bring course to train with us. it's in a culture, is very important to us in building those long-term relationships to give us safer. i will tell you from my time in the military, i went to west point gets from other countries. i trained at the hellenic military academy in greece for summer. during my hard time in the army, i trained with an officer from africa. all of those things helped us understand one another and build close partnerships. we need to continue that. chris: what you seem to be staying is that if we need to vet better we need to do it. but not from this problem. there are reports that the pentagon is working i'm a plan considering a plan, to send 7000 more u.s. troops to the middle east. understand the president has not decided i'm this yet. but what would more u.s. troops help us do to counter the threat from iran. >> for small i have no plans right now were going seven
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7,014,000 troops to middle east but what i've said consistently startling to congress and others is that i'm a weekly basis, daily basis we wanted to ensure what's happening in the persian gulf and we watch what iran is doing to make sure we know what their intentions are what i'm trying to do in the theater are few things. no one reassure our allies such as the saudis and the uae and other countries in the region. never to affirm the right of countries of freedom and navigations number three hold of the international rules -based order. so what i am trying to do in the defense department news deter iranian bad behavior. if you recall, several months ago, they were going after shi ships. they shut down 100 drones. we reach a point i think, though we deterred further iranian bad behavior but as we seen, intentions changing, i will change our course posture to maintain that deterrence. chris: you see that there are certain things they are going after ships, and the persian gulf they
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are shooting down pros. we, 14000 more troops, but the iranians are continuing to ship missiles around the area into a rock, to yemen, they have recently tested a new missile that would have the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon. troops two. they determined that action and are you basically staying, we are prepared to get into a shooting war with them. >> what i said publicly as we are prepared to respond depending i'm what they do. and the need to understand that our restraints should not be interpreted as weakness. we are prepared to defend ourselves. and her friends and allies if necessary. you have two important things. for 40 years now, since the revolution, iran has been engaged in a number of activities that did nothing but undermine the entire region. it is bad behavior and in her any number of countries stretching from africa to afghanistan the missile program their nuclear program, hostages taken. all of those of the things that we fought in a new and
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comprehensive and do with them to get rid of. what we want is and become a normal nation. a normal country. chris: good luck with that. >> only have to do it, their hands and in every dive boat country out there. to string things out. lebanon, saudi arabia, syria, yemen, and we can go all of all across this region and talk about iranian bad behavior. chris: we are here at the reagan. back in 1985, reagan laid out what was known as the reagan doctrine which was that the u.s. was going to support and resist and movement around the world to powdered soviet aggression. in the last few months, this president, president trump has pulled u.s. troops out of northern syria and abandoning our kurdish allies, he's talking now about a peace deal with the taliban and pulling out of afghanistan. join it comes to fighting ices, join it comes to fighting the taliban, is this what president
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trump is now doing the exact opposite of the reagan doctrine. assume i'm not at all. let's look those two situations. we withdrew troops from the border with turkey because our long-standing allies seven years was going i'm because they had about terrorist activity coming into turkey. we told them is, you shouldn't do this, we worked hard to get another that, and stop the safe zone. but at the end of the day they were committed to doing that we were going to put our troops in the past. chris: my.that went out getting into a lot of the details, we seem to be pulling back from fighting terrorists. ronald reagan was leaning forward in terms of fighting soviet russia. >> president brett what the threat of the time was the ussr in the long-term challenge now is russia and china. the key, you mentioned afghanistan, we've been in that country news 418 or years and the only work forward is through a political agreement so if we can agree then that between the taliban and afghan government and us, to ensure that
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afghanistan is no longer a safe haven for terrorists, that is a good think. it also allows me as to free up troops redeployed against those two other countries we are most concerned about the long-term. a. chris: a limited time left. a lightning round. if possible quick answers. north korea's ambassador to be to the united nations, and says that talks about the nuclear nation. they are off the table. if they resume, nuclear testing, long-range missile testing, what will the u.s. do. >> i'm not going to comment i'm hypotheticals. my job is to make ensure that we are ready and prepared to fight. and join tonight if necessary. i believe from a high state of readiness right now by second task is to enable art deco mats. are the things we do works closely with secretary pompei i'm this issues. the talks are always open. i've said that sec. pompei a citizen well and president trump as well. we want to sit down have
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negotiation with one reaching the point where we have dean nuclear rise of north korea. chris: president trump parted several art military who have either been convicted or were charged with war crimes, he stopped and administrative review. you said he's the commander-in-chief. it is his call. but as the secretary of defense are you worried that this undermines the military justice and may perhaps discourage other servicemembers from reporting delayed gold and proper conduct. >> no i don't. i'm a big believer military code of justice. a cable system. our soldiers are our well-trained and the laws are armed conflict in the president trump has brought the first person to either pardon or commute somebody. there's a long history of commuters in chief. it is their prerogative and to the constitution. chris: finally couple of questions about impeachment. join we lost last talk. a couple of months ago, you said you were going to do everything you could to comply with congressional subpoenas. in the records about the cut off
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from the withholding of aid to review ukraine. but two days after our conversation, the pentagon stonewalled congress and didn't release a single document. >> are you credible that went out. is it too much with my general counsel had come four dead with this if there were legal and technical issues of student silicone honor. that was the reason behind that. chris: d.phil. congress has a right to oversight and able to see documents from the pentagon about a program that was approved by congress. >> will they do but providing in the right and proper way. that was the issue. my reputation is pretty good in terms of being very transparent. i like to communicate with birds of congressmen in the state case, it is my recollection is there were technical and legal issues that prohibited us that was exactly requested by the congress. chris: finally you were the secretary of defense and a lot of these actions were going down with regard to ukraine.
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did president trump every explained to you, tell you, why he was holding off u.s. military aid and is in a current war with russia. soonish i'm not going to get into that. there's obviously an infirmary i'm capitol hill and i came into the story if you will, in late july is join i assumed office at the time. chris: earlier in july. >> i was out of the game for a couple of weeks during my confirmation process. i will see this much join i came onto the scene the three things for this. one was the a necessary and vital to the ukrainians in terms of defending against russia. number two, had ukraine's address corruption another congressional concern and number three, where the countries in the region, there allies and partners assisting them. and give those three things, we decided to support the provision of ukrainian aid. at the end of the date i'm the bottom live is most of the night got out i'm i'm time. and in no time did have any impact in the united states national security.
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it's. chris: and you were never told about political considerations. is it too much i am not going to get into that. that process needs to be left unto itself. chris: thank you mr. secretary. you have a lot i'm your plate defending this country. >> thank you very much. chris: thank you so much for doing that. i passed houston baseman inc. the case to the judiciary committee tomorrow. a big step before democrats write articles of impeachment. we'll talk with congressman david says lenny, i talked about i'm the committee. fox news sunday continues from the air force one pavilion. at the ronald reagan presidential library. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ bleeding disorderste medlike hemophilia.s so victor can keep doing what's in his blood.
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chris: it's a big wake i'm capitol hill. i'm monday has investigated president and impeachment. area my health has declined to take part in. the same day the justice department and inspector general issues his report. i'm how the fbi conducted the russia probe. in the ig, michael horowitz testifies two days later. joining us now, congressman david sizzling, top member of the house judiciary. would write articles of impeachment. congressmen, democrats i'm the judiciary committee met this weekend, is the plan at vote out articles of impeachment against president trump at the end of this week. >> i don't think we know, the timing of it. certainly judiciary committee will hear from the intelligence committee counsel and will
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detail that the president of the united states attempted to compress a foreign leader to interfere in american presidential election. to assist him in his reelection. undermining the national security of the united states for his own benefit. this is the classic example of an impeachable offense. we know that from the scholars we listen to. so were going to receive the evidence carefully. were going to evaluate the evidence as applied to the law than as set forth in the constitution. and make a judgment about what articles of impeachment. in the timetable, is less clear. chris: you talk about evidence. will the committee focus just i'm the alleged offenses in terms of what the president did in ukraine. or will you go back and some democrats are talking about to the moral report and what it alleged about potential obstruction of justice by president trump in russia investigation. the subject which has brought been discussed at all during the last few months. it really has been discussed in congress at all since last july
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join robert mall muller testified. >> the judiciary committee has collected an enormous amount of evidence. and now 300 page report from the intelligence committee. he will demonstrate and does demonstrate patterns of behaviors about this president to see foreign assistance and interfering in american presidential election. and then an effort to obstruct congresses, review the circumstances. so we will look at all of the material that we collected i'm the evidence and generated. i will make a judgment but again, the focus is i'm the president misconduct. the president of the united states asking a foreign government to interfere in american presidential. this is really join our founders spoke about join they were speaking about impeachment. about an abuse of power, about using the power of the president to advance her own personal or for political interest in the national interest. and so, . chris: if you just answered my question.
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is he going be just airplane or may you look back at the russia probe and potential obstruction of justice there. >> look i think all of the articles potential articles of impeachment i'm the table. there will be a decision that it judicial committee will make it the consultation of the chair of the relative leadership about. but it judiciary committee will have all of the evidence and make a judgment. that decision will be made by the committee at the appropriate time. chris: as part of the intelligence committee news report, earlier this week. adam schiff, released from one of telephone calls between rudy giuliani or one of its associates with the chair in the top republican, the former chair of house intel committee, it also with a reporter john solomon. republicans are pushing back hard i went out and shipped it. they are printed. >> never seen chairman of committee abuse their subpoena
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power to go after other members of congress that the political disagreements with. or members of the press that they have political disagreements with. as over the live. chris: and going to ask the question first is that the new standard that members of congress can subpoena for records and then release them about members of congress of the other party or the members of the media because it takes us into pretty dangerous territory. >> they have the solemn responsibility of collecting all of the evidence and they use the lawful process to do that. the real question is why is the republican ranking member of the intelligence committee engaging in a conversation with artists and others and why is he participating in some way in a very subject matter of this inquiry. that's really alarming development. so the committee has responsibility to collect all of the evidence.
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and to carefully evaluate it to use lawful process to do it. i wish my republican colleagues were concerned about evidence and collection and with the evidence shared rather than the embarrassment to one of their colleagues. chris: once you open this door, everybody's going to go through president join the republicans were the majority, you have no problem with them so being your phone records and finding out who you been in touch with. >> i think it's important that any committee jurisdiction collect all of the relevant evidence particular join we focus i'm something is deadly serious as an appeasement presenting. this is the serious preceding greg we have a responsibility to collect all of the evidence. whatever it is. and evaluate it at the constitutional permission and we do that, you understand the president continuing is really a continuous threat to our election. on the integrity of our democracy and we have to move forward with these proceedings. no one warrants for congress to impeach a president but we are
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faced with a very serious set of misconduct by this president. we have a responsibility oath of office. to protect and defend the constitution. recently cannot allow this president or any president to invite foreign interference and no one gets to decide our election for the american people get to. her name for power. that what is what separates our great country. chris: congressman, some moderate democrats especially some who are elected in scream districts, the donald trump carried in 2016, talking openly about voting against impeachment biggest in the house for. as a member of democratic house leadership. are you sure that the democrats now have the 216 votes they would need two pieces president printed. >> i think there is no question that the evidence that has been developed in the course of this investigation, it is overwhelming and uncontested. the president of the united states saw it on for
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interpreters to help his reelection. chris: that's not what i'm talking about but all indirect air. i'm not talking about the evidence you have the vote. do not the vast majority of the members of congress and the democratic caucus, will accept the evidence and will move forward with articles impeachment. real question is wasn't part of ronald reagan that prevailed in the cold war, wheeling to accept this client of foreign interference in relations. suman finally the inspector general, michael horovitz issues his report tomorrow. the russia probe that he reportedly finds the fbi had adequate cause to pursue about investigation pretty unfairly find serious misconduct, even perhaps criminal activity in the parts of the lower loophole but he says the top leadership of the fbi and other agencies were not guided by political bias. do you expect that to end the debate over whether or not the
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fbi spying i'm the trunk campaign in 2016 as attorney general bar contest. >> you would hope that it would find land that kind of silly claim that has been made repeatedly. by the president and his allies. therefore it is going to tell the fbi what is fully justified in its investigation the trunk campaign. sadly we have seen before that stacked sometimes no matter. if they stay on i'm the way of these arguments that they are making, and attempt to defend the president's masonic brenna hope it puts an end to it for once and for all. we'll have to see. chris: congressman cecily, thank you for your time and we will track developments. they kiss her. >> thank you. chris: up next will bring in our panel to discuss impeachment and the ig report. fox news sunday continues i'm the reagan presidential library in california. ladies and gentlemen, your attention please.
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grandpa the complex. that's a reason that are obvious. >> is the very sick man. chris: we should care about this, we must care about this, if we don't care about this, we can or will be sure that the president will be back at it, doing this all over again. chris: the attacks from president trump at the intel adam schiff getting even rougher. house democrats near a final vote i'm impeachment. it's time now for arsenic here at the reagan library, gop strategist karl rove, once again, fox news now national security. just as a pure political calculation, at house democrats run a greater risk going ahead with impeachment or settling to back off. it's meant they're not going to back off. the real question is going to be how broad is the articles of
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impeachment going to be. there is an argument going i'm inside of the democratic party as what how broad it's not to be. because the calculus is this. anyone democrats said and sees the donald trump once and those people are starting to get nervous. we saw some reporting i'm three polls done in three of those districts that are republicans show independence moving strongly against impeachment and impeachment issues sucking up republicans industries the donald trump won four years ago is likely to carry again. chris: as part of the house intelligence committee, report as i just discuss and conquer mess congressman sicily. adam schiff, the chairman release these phone logs of telephone calls between giuliani and one of his associates. the white house and with republican congressman devin nunes, with a reporter. does that take us down a slippery slope. >> certainly seems to. you listen to a republican, jim banks, is called the judiciary
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committee to savini and shifts phone records. lynn's grandma said that he will not do that pretty will not be going down that path. but there is the sort of tit for tat. democrats see that they were not subpoenaed devon moose phone records or a journalist i'm record john solomon, they see that it was captured. chris: they were going after giuliani. and it turned out they were talking and they didn't have to release it. >> that is what they are getting hammered for. chris: riddick giuliani is the president's lawyer. what about the confidentiality between the client and the lawyer. >> do we know it was his phone records. is been indicted. the one we know that rudy giuliani called in the white house. and anyway, let's move to the other big story. at this make the inspector general and releases a report michael horowitz has been discussing or looking into this
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reports are in the probe itself tomorrow. is that the ig is going to see that yes there was some serious problems, i'm the lower levels of the fbi and they have fiddled with a memo that was used as part of the market to get the price at warrant. the application to get it they're going to see that the basic probe, i'm donald trump in 2016 and his campaign, was with due process and an appropriate basis in the fbi was not doing it with political bias. if that is what comes out, what is that due to all the conspiracy talk we hear from the right. >> think is going to be really difficult. the president has said he thinks it's going to be a blockbuster report. i think he's going to be disappointed from what we have seen of the initial draft. john vern, he's been making i'm it. he was the lawyer . chris: u.s. attorney the bar has
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chosen. >> look into aspects of weather there was a certain processor the u.s. intelligence advocate supposedly they did not find it to be the case. and so durham seems to be occurring with horowitz and join hearts went by the finding that tomorrow that they were not signing i'm the trunk campaign that they had reason to open the fbi and the season. i president will be disappointed. he did mention the lower-level lawyer at the fbi that is not going to come out looking very good. join he presented the fisa quote information i'm our page. he did some softening trainees whenever we look at how this applications are being made prior to. chris: briefly, one of the allegations at this professor, joseph missing, spoke to george - what record altogether. he said that russians had derek i'm ordered i'm hillary clinton. the question was, was an honest person here or was he in fact, set up some conservatives have
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seven of americans intelligence agents. this is all kind of a conspiracy to go after donald trump. in one horowitz didn't find out and he also talked to his u.s. attorneys. the investigating this potential criminal case. apparently didn't find it either. he brings it to the fact that there are a lot of people from the president to the attorney general from republicans in congress to members of the conservative media of all been pushing this conspiracy theory or this theory this is all an attempt to take down donald trump. the ig was considered a marker horowitz said that it's all true and what happens. >> i think you need to look as a horwitz as an interim report. he is concerned. he cannot talk to people who are no longer a government service as inspector general, he can only talk to people who are strictly in government service so we can go i'm to lisa page would compel to testify. our peter etc. so think this is an but unlikely
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to undermine the nuttier conspiracy theories. yes. what i would see this john durham think is going to be looking and maybe looking at a much different question which was once the fisa quote granted the authority to wiretap given the full and complete information that the fisa quote needs to have more were they playing fast and loose with the applications for the wiretap. as an entirely different issue. the ultimate authority which is going to be durham complete help testimony from people are in government service, and people who left government service hardware in never in government service. >> this horror was interviewed hundred people. a million pages of documents. 500 page report, i don't think it's an internal report. and i would also see that durh durham, he will be looking at whether there is any evidence of a fisa quote misuse or and thus are chemically join i look at as an fbi lawyer but i think that durham in the end, there is no
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evidence to suggest that fisa quote application was for card page. that was i'm the basis for the whole investigation. chris: i get that. i think that's a different issue but join i see he can come to conclusions about a certain range of items where all you need to do is to talk to people who are currently in government service. in document to her about people who left the durham has a broader authority as a u.s. attorney in a special investigation where he can compel testimony from individuals who no longer in government service i think is join looking at things that horowitz can't come to conclusion about. and so in 20 seconds, i get the sense that there's probably going to be some republicans out there no matter what, horowitz finds in their going to see, the getaway for the dirt. >> and friendly they may not be interested in it. a lot of people going to see that but what is interesting is horowitz may result things that they are interested in interim had talked about things and they having a began to who is i'm because don't fit into the conspiracy. so. it goes i'm.
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chris: thank you both will be back in washington and what promises to be an intense week. next, the u.s. faces threats from old rivals like russia. growing polarization here at home. we'll have two national security experts about it. join we returned for the reagan presidential library in >> california. my parents never taught me anything about managing money.
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>> the unity of the country and our allies, with ten battleships to us in a fight. it. >> the strength of the united states of america lies in our alliances. in her ability to work with others. chris: just as at the top officials and foreign policy experts here at
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the reagan defense forum, about the best strategy to confront threats to the u.s. earlier i sat down with michelle flournoy former on secretary of defense for policy. in former democratic senator sam nunn, now cochair of the nuclear threat initiative read. chris: think about for talking with me. senator nunn yuri seen that reagan piece of war speech. your speech you said the threat of confrontation, right now, between the u.s. and russia is the greatest since the human missile crisis. really. >> i think this through. were not communicating as we did even during the couple of war. we have confrontation with them with troops in the same proximity. both in the middle east as well as you wrote or ukraine. we have a collapse arms control. we are hanging i'm with a couple of think that there is no really regulatory regime. new technologies like cyber that could be used basically just a
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carpool command and control systems. as well as warrant systems. all those things mean particularly new technologies. we need to be communicating. but the lines of communication are nowhere near as rigorous as they should be. we do consider u.s. and russia have nuclear rep in weapons. that's an obligation for these two countries to talk even join we disagree. chris: michelle, how seriously do you take the threat of confrontation. between the u.s. and russia and president put it. russian leader, just said that he would like to extend the new start treaty before the end of the year. before it runs out in 2021 for your thoughts about that. should we take him up i'm that. >> we should absolutely take him up i'm that to start the new start treaty basically provides a strategic framework to create some degree of predictability. transparency, stability in our
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nuclear elation chips. i want to take the lid off of that and get into an open competition was russia right now. learn deadly issues that need to be solved and re- negotiating a future treaty but let's keep the current one in place. and then open up and in negotiation. this be one sin and then we do at president trump news policies, around the world, what do you see of his that you think he is doing right and is there anything you see that he is doing wrong. it's been a agree with him in terms of his initiative i'm north korea. i wish there had been a game plan and still needs to be developed to do a step-by-step process in terms of the nuclear station for this kind of un human error. with north korea, i agree with it. he has helped to increase defense resources. as part of the nato allies, but in terms of the overall, the alliances have been in my view, shaken very badly.
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because we don't have predictability. from monday to the next, our allies around the world, don't know what's going to come from president trump. so that is in the way goes about things, name-calling and so forth, it really takes its toll. chris: same question for you michelle. what is he doing right in the foreign national policy security and what is he doing wrong. >> and you think we need it to open our eyes to more competitive competitive in china. and there's been bipartisan support this so long behind them. the president is certainly in supported the increase in defense spending and investment in future capabilities but agree with senator nunn, even if we are doing some of the right things day today owner defense relationship from alliances, overall we are seeing now people don't know exactly where we stay on for. because our policies are not consistent. we know some have a cohesive
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strategy. we become an unpredictable if not unreliable, lin so that creates a lot of uncertainty. it tempts adversaries to test us. to see where limits are and i think it moves him some of our allies to start hedging against the possibility that they can't count i'm the united states of america. chris: is there a big threat out there that you think that all of us, the politicians, the media, the foreign policy experts, are not paying enough attention credits but i actually think a lot of people in washington understand the challenge of china and the competitive threat that is posed to us economically, technologically, security.of view and even from another.of view but i don't think that is understood widely or at least not in any kind of nuance. i think there's a huge opportunity to explain this to the american people. not to make china an enemy. we want to avoid that. at the same if this is the
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competitive moment. we as americans know how to compete. let's invest in the drivers of rome success. education, 21st century technology, and so forth. so i think that with the right leadership, vision nuclear slick in this country moving again in a much more competitive world. chris: news internet i want to go some back to something that you said in your speech. you talk about peace through strength and home. in one of the things you discuss is the lack of stability and that is sort of undercutting the unity of the nation and to confront threats but how serious of an issue do you think that is printed. >> think it is a serious issue. i think one white art divided at home, we don't have the strength that we would otherwise have. i believe every american with a voice and vote should insist i'm civility.
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doesn't mean you are going to agree. it means you don't demonize the other side. the lawyer disagreeing, we recognize we have worked together to have a sense of policy. democrats and republicans and independence are all in this together what many days in washington you would never know you had. so civility, is absolutely essential in my view for governments and governance given all those changes in technology may be the most difficult. most difficult problem we face in terms of the digital edge and we have many many challenges and government right now technology is far out running policy. chris: do you see the push by house democrats for impeachment now as a sign of the breakdown in civility. >> unconcerned about it. i'm concerned about the fact the firm republicans and investment coming together. people made up their mind long before the evidence is open completed.
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and if you are thinking about, you have to ask yourself weapons of it goes to the senate. if we don't have republican support, is it just going to go away or will it be a condemnation. i think a serious option to be considered is in the house, censored. the content of the conduct that went out basically taking away the right of the american people. for making a decision i'm who our leaders should be. chris: just follow that, make talk to democrats, they see no way, and the president note no way, so it doesn't seem like anybody wants to make that happen. >> the presidency because of the republicans are against it because arrogance and pride the behavior, we need to hear all the evidence. there was a very bad best day made here in terms of basically extorting a foreign country with appropriated funds that are been passed to help military emergency. in exchange for going after
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political opponent. that's the case pretty and seems to me that kind of behavioral excess to be condemned. but i think you are to be looked at by everybody maybe the fact that all parties are against the means just where to go printed. >> peace through strength at home. what a nice think to talk and think about. at the regular library. thank you both very much. up next hour power player of the week. one of the world news foremost experts i'm spies. in the fascinating gadgets they use to steal secrets. ♪oh there's no place like home for the holidays.♪ ♪for the holidays you can't beat home sweet home.♪ we go the extra mile to bring your holidays home. we make aspirin to help save lives during a heart attack... so it never stops the heart of a family.
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♪ ♪ ♪ chris: if our setting here at the reagan library doesn't take you back to cold war, our next guest will. his love of spies and spy craft has taken him around the world on his own special mission, here is our power player of the week. ♪ >> i've always been fascinated in not just what spies did but how they did it. >> keith melton is obsessed with spies and how they pull off their missions. >> hidden waste coat called a detective camera. chris: amassing the world's private collection and becoming historical adviser to u.s.
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intelligenty -- intelligent agencies. >> often involve some strange country in the middle of the night using currencies and meeting someone at a parking lot at 2:00 a.m. chris: melton has donated thousands of seeses to international spy museum in washington, getting visitors the back story on how espionage face the world. >> it's essential for the american people to understand what spies do in our intelligent services and how they represent the first line of defense for the democracy. chris: museum reopened this summer and 162 million-dollar building, features james bond's ashton martin and inner active exhibits like red team where visitors would decide if they made the call to red which seemed osama bin laden's
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compound. >> that's a hard one. [laughter] >> i kind of know the ending here, i will say i'm highly confident. the center piece is spy gadgets like this cia pen and camera. >> you put it over a document, you take a photograph and you smuggle it out and it was -- we call it the camera that won the cold war. chris: and then there's this axe. >> melton spent 40 years tracking down one of the world's most famous murder weapons used by a soviet spy to kill leon, stalin regime. >> he came up behind him with two hands and just as he was about to strike he closed his eyes and instead of hitting him in the back of the head, he hit him in the side of the head. chris: his passion took him to
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berlin and kgb headquarters. >> during times of times of stability artifacts become available. >> what becomes a good spy? >> information that's obtained that our adversaries don't know is missing is far more valuable than they realized has been stolen. chris: melton has a new white whale, a small cross bow u.s. intelligence came up during world war ii. >> they only made a handful of them. i've gotten into 30 minutes of obtaining one and that's the piece i haven't been able to find. >> i hope you find a cross bow. >> thank you. chris: since the spy museum reopened this summer more than 400,000 people have gone to see it. and that's it for today, have a great week and we will see you back in washington next fox news sunday. ♪
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>> the facts are uncontested. the president abused his power for his own personal political benefit at the expense of our national security by withholding military aid and crucial oval office meeting in exchange for an announcement of an investigation into his political rival. paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. it's full impeachment ahead as house speaker nancy pelosi asks committee chairs to begin drafting articles of impeachment against president trump, saying that democrats have, quote, no choice but to act. pelosi's announcement came two days after the house intelligence committee released a report concluding that president trump abused the power of


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