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2:30 on fox. >> i am so excited for this. >> i wonder if they have reclining seats, he doesn't turn his phone off, an airplane mode, q the sound. where is my airline? have a great saturday. neil: more coronavirus, death toll rising his fears are growing around the world. how did chad wolf plan to calm those fears? does american traveler matthew smith, on a diamond princess proves ship in japan for nearly two weeks, has a chance to read -- return home. why he might not be taking that chance. matthew whitaker, a double
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standard at the justice department, after not charging andrew mccabe for lying to investigators, donald trump's support is facing years of prison for doing the same thing. the president tweeting about it moments ago. joe biden describing bernie sanders in unelectable in many states. bernie sanders's wife here to respond. good to have you. let's get to it. the latest on the coronavirus situation that goes bad to worse. garrett tenney has the latest from washington. >> new information by the state department about the 400 americans quarantined on a cruise ship off the coast of japan for the last two weeks.
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those americans will have a chance to evacuate the state department and health and human services, chartered several flights that will arrive in japan tomorrow evening to bring them home. a team from the cdc will screen passengers before they are allowed to board to receive treatment, those that do come home will be court teen for two weeks, and lack a for space in san antonio. 200 passengers on the diamond princess cruise ship have been infected with the coronavirus the largest outbreak outside mainland china. chinese officials reported fewer cases than they had in recent days but the death toll rose to 1500 in mainland china. researchers are ramping up efforts to develop vaccines and one official said several are showing promise using plasmid from survivors as well.
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>> a lot recover patients. after the treatment of clinical symptoms there are side effects. >> reporter: until treatment is found china is expected to keep tight restrictions to stop the virus from spreading. more than 60 million people living in cities placed on total lockdown. neil: the acting homeland security secretary chad wolf later in the show. the justice department not charging acting fbi director andrew mccabe. mark meredith with more from west palm beach. >> reporter: the justice department is facing questions
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over how it handled its cases and involves people with ties to donald trump as well as those who criticized the president and does the president say deserve to be investigated. on friday fox and the justice department is ending its investigation, mccabe had been under investigation, leaks to the media and criticized mccabe's time at the bureau. he wrote, quote, ig for inspector general report on andrew mccabe, it lacked candor, light on a number of occasions, the ig recommended mccabe's firing. fox learned friday the justice department selected an outside prosecutor to review the case against michael flynn. flynn pled guilty to lying to the fbi, he is awaiting his sentence and donald trump has long defendant flynn publicly.
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there is the case of roger stone, convicted on multiple counts of lying to congress. prosecutors wanted to prosecute seventh my years in prison but we learned the justice department leader stepped in for a shorter sentence. denied the white house had anything to do with this. >> anyone call to influence you? >> i've not disgusted them at the white house. >> the president tweeted about the interview with william barr. the president went on to say do not have the legal right to do so but i have so far chosen not to. the tweet has gotten a lot of attention, lawmakers have questions for the attorney general, he will head to capitol
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hill for a hearing at the end of march. >> the acting attorney general of the united states, good to have you here. the president does seem to be a double standard here. you have the case of mcdaniel who lied to congress repeatedly, no cruel investigation. the former national security adviser mind to congress facing a decade in prison. >> they are fundamentally the same fact pattern. andrew mccabe was interviewed by fbi investigators, was not truthful, lacked candor, general flynn was approached by the fbi, asked questions and was determined not to be telling the truth, these fact patterns are
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similar and just last night by a random person in the airports why is there a double standard at the department of justice? william barr is the right person, symmetry to these types of cases and the general flynn case will be the exemplary where we look at whether or not those in contravention just the president are treated differently under the system than those who are supportive of the president. i hope that's not the case and ultimately the american people are going to have to be explained while in case someone gets prosecuted and forced to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend themselves and another case that person is not charged with any crimes. the us attorney and bush administration and acting attorney general in the trump
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administration, and long-term the credibility of the department of justice. heather: this was triggered by the president intervening on the recommendations being kicked around by a number of prosecutors and this is their efforts to say hands-off, we are independent. >> it is a misnomer to some extent. it is best the department of justice be allowed to prosecutors, cases without interference from politics but at the same time the department of justice power and authority is derivative of the president's executive power, if the president as you tweeted about if you wanted to, he could, it would be bad practice and many of us would not recommend him doing that, part of the executive branch. i don't think the roger stone case is going to turn out,
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sentencing recommendation. a lot of prosecutors have said it was excessive in the recommendation the enhancements under the sentencing guidelines appeared almost wreck only and in their application and you look at president and other cases they are in the 1 to 3 year range. heather: a case to be made for what you said that i talked to a number of prominent republicans, they would prefer the president quietly relay that behind-the-scenes and tweet about it to william barr and the second abc interview as you know by now he wished the president wouldn't do this sort of thing, makes his job a lot tougher. do you think the president weighing in, keeps the matter worse. >> it draws the public's attention to it, the president has been very effective by using twitter to communicate his messages.
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william barr was very clear when he weighs in on, cases that are pending, makes his job not only difficult but next to impossible. there are certain things if you were the attorney general, you don't want the president weighing in but at the same time the president has every right to say what is on his mind and speak and the executive branch, that is his prerogative. this president has done a lot of positive things with his twitter account and sometimes you wish you wouldn't weigh in but he does. >> if you are right about how serious this looks about going after michael flynn, that would seem to imply the justice
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department more than three years into this president as it out for him. the justice department, forget about the bar, has it out for the president? >> ultimately i don't. the justice department is best when it wears the white hat and pursues the virtue of justice. heather: neil: we just pointed out the double standard. i talked to many -- yes it does have -- do you agree with that? >> the fast majority, 110,000 employees including fbi agents are doing justice neutral and independent of any political bias. we see very small examples, the facts suggest there is a political animus towards the
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president that needs to be eliminated. that is what john durham and william barr are working on, to root out if there is political animus to make sure that is not at the department of justice. i served side-by-side for 7 years in two administrations in the department of justice, rank and file by and large, 90% of the men and women in the department of justice i there to do their jobs and do it to follow where the fact they lead. we have to believe that but there are few examples here that are concerning and need to be better explained by the department of justice so we can understand why these decisions are made. political influence if that is true. neil: michael avenatti looks to be going to prison for 40 years on charges he tried to shake down - a number of trials he faces. what do you think of the whole thing? >> this is someone that used
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their 15 minutes of fame for their own personal interests and got over their skis. it was surprising when other channels would give this person airtime to essentially bash the president and suggest he was going to run for president and -- heather: should organizations apologize for having him on? >> they need to do some soul-searching. there are two channels the gave him a lot of airtime to not only criticize the president but offer debunked conspiracy theories and ultimately this is someone that because of their lack of moral compass and not following legal ethical duties got themselves and a lot of trouble. this is someone i'm sure most people don't want to hear from again, putting us through that period of time.
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>> a good while with us on saturday morning, appreciate it. this is not a romantic dinner you had in mind for valentine's day. he and his wife were quarantined on the princess cruise ship for the better part of 12 days. the end may be insight. after this. >> enjoy it with the exception of wearing a mask. ng the way... ...so we can spend a bit now, knowing we're prepared for the future. surprise! we renovated the guest room, so you can live with us. oooh, well... i'm good at my condo. oh. i love her condo. nana throws the best parties. well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.
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todd: 1 a be a won't go. passengers aboard the diamond princess cruise ship getting a chance at the us embassy in japan offering a flight back to the united states tomorrow for those who wish to board. they will be court again -- quarantined again which is why matthew smith might not be keen
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to leave it. he joins us via skype. how are you holding up? >> we are doing fine, doing well, just a bump in the road but healthwise we are fine. heather: you and your wife have been on this thing and quarantined off but you have some access on the ship. explain how that works. >> we are in a sweet on the ship that has a large balcony so we had access to that balcony throughout the period of the quarantine, we can go outside for fresh air and sunshine whenever we like. other passengers have a different experience in any interior cabin which is markedly smaller and no access to fresh air or lease. they have allowed those passengers on deck for an hour or so every two days and that is our situation.
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heather: the government has indicated a plane coming to get you out of there and you are not keen on his. >> know. i tweeted days ago i wanted the government to stay out of it because while i understand some people haven't been in an interior cabin before, i can sympathize with anyone going cabin crazy but frankly we have our greatest desire is to maintain the quarantine the japanese health officials have established and get a test for the virus after the end of that quarantine so we could establish with relative certainty that we are not infected and could be free to go. unfortunately the state department has thrown a
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monkeywrench into that by saying if we don't take the flight tomorrow they do not know how long we will have to stay in japan until the cdc makes a decision on that which they haven't told us when that is going to happen. neil: taken that plane out of there, the threat of a new quarantine in the united states but you are off that ship. >> this ship is getting a bad rap about conditions here. i want people who have to be an interior cabins because of the closeness of that but we have a nice state room, we have access to the balcony, we are fed well 3 times a day along with access for all the necessities we need and getting off the ship to be in another space but the offer is we are going to put you on buses with other people who haven't completed their
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quarantine and have not been tested for the virus, we put you on a plane with these people and take you back to the united states but because of the risk you still pose due to that situation we will stick you in another quarantine in california or texas, we don't know which and haven't been informed anything about the conditions of the corn team back in the united states. heather: how is your wife holding up? >> my wife i would have to say is holding up good under the circumstances. she is more emotional about the situation than i am and was upset today to find the plan the united states was interfering with what we otherwise thought we were going to be able to do which was complete the quarantine here and then go home but she has been a than a few times she has been really depressed is doing well, very well and of circumstances. heather: neil: we wish you and your wife
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>> happy to report that the death of the transatlantic alliance is grossly over exaggerated. the west is winning. we are collectively winning. we are doing it together.
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neil: mike pompeo speaking at the munich security conference going on as we speak, addressing attendees, looked a little dicey as the number of global conferences were delayed or canceled outright because of the corona virus, not so here. the us ambassador to germany joins us now. always good to have you. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. this back and forth, and in no way, is that interpretation right, how do you answer that?
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>> i think the fact of the matter is we are asking the europeans to do more, not just ask for more and that is a fundamental change from what we had before. look at the evidence in terms of we have been asking from prior administrations, the bush administration, the europeans to pay more in defense to meet nato commitments and while they ask for lots of consultations they have largely ignored those requests in the past except for now. they are doing a lot, it is expected they will grumble, not always having to pay for it because the united states would pay for it or the united states would lead and be the policeman around the world, those are coming to a end. they are asking them to do more and change the status quo. >> it is more resistant to this
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tank. why is that? >> germany is the largest economy in europe. there is no question, by 2024. and with 2024 coming and the germans or not there yet and hopefully, one.5% by 2024. we have been pushing them, the latest is 2% by 2031, they made a commitment to make a 22024, this is the nato commitment not a commitment of the united states, the greatest military alliance in the history of the
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world, if we can't get them to meet this commitment there will be some grumblings and what we say to the germans is the american people can't be expected to pay for anyone. if you want the transatlantic alliance, you pay your fair share. they have increased quite a bit but not enough. >> what has the reaction been on this war powers resolution, republicans joining along, going slow. what do they think of it? >> it is a very typical debate the world watches. i spent eight years at the un and have seen this debate before. congress has a role to play. they will be aggressive about being in control. we need a white house and the president who is able to read intelligence and respond.
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the american people know, europeans know that. the role congress is going to pay is german members constantly, the greater role of the parliamentary, all of that makes sense but in a crisis you need somebody to be able to respond. the president is right to say we can have this discussion but at the end of the day he is the one that needs to make sure the american people are safe. neil: i talked to senators and republicans, academic view of the attorney general, william barr, with regard to the president tweeting, i wish he didn't do it as much. it makes his job tougher. you are across the ocean in
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germany and i'm wondering about the president's tweeting and whether it complicates your job? >> makes my job so much easier. we as diplomats have to be at the forefront of trying to solve problems. you don't want a war, which means diplomats need to be able to talk. if you want to solve problems you better have diplomats who are really tough, diplomats who know how to push and cajole because the alternative is to transfer the file to the dod. i like having a president who is willing to be tough. we can also talk about whether the style of the president works. i think $400 billion in new defense promises for nato members is one surefire way to point to the fact the president's style has worked. i love this debate that people
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want to talk about whether the president's style works because the american people, people outside washington, need to show a little annoyance when the other side has taken advantage of you. that is what we see when it comes to the transatlantic relationship. neil: the ambassador from germany joining the international conference, protesters who make a candidate's life hell. >> figure out what happened. >> i went to a political event.
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>> you could arrive and not have someone win on the first ballot and all bets are off. >> my theory on the money being raised is it keeps more candidates in the race longer than people would have expected otherwise, thereby increasing the likelihood of a brokered convention. neil: you could look at iowa as a metaphor what that convention could be like. >> i don't know that it will be a brokered convention, between michael bloomberg and bernie sanders. that will happen down the road. neil: i don't mean to pat myself on the back but remember where you were at the brokered convention when it all started and everyone was laughing at me. i will dig it up and i will make your life hell.
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we have republican pollster jimmy carter, michael hopkins and cva market analyst dan gilder. all kidding aside, the math just makes it tough for someone to clear the hurdles and get the 2000 delegates he or she would need certainly on the first ballot and then what? >> math is not looking good. the modeling is interesting, they have sanders as most likely to win with your one in 3 shot a brokered convention has a wintry shot of happening so those are the most likely outcomes of what we are seeing. what happens next? a lot of chaos ensues. if we go to this place, a lot of different candidates who don't have any indication they are going anywhere, bloomberg who a lot of people argue is buying the vote and he will make it all the way there. if that happens we will have bernie supporters who are all
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about you can't buy a vote, anti-billion are going against bloomberg, going against wealthy candidates, it will be a big problem, a lot of chaos. this isn't the first time we said would happen. a lot of people sit in 2016 there was no way trump would get there because ted cruz and john kasich weren't going to drop out. neil: he has such a big delegate lead, normally that happens, that the momentum that goes with barack obama, not saying they are correlated after that but the complications this year as superdelegates. >> the candidate has momentum. if you look at mayor pete won iowa, did well in new hampshire but hasn't shown a lot of momentum, doing better in polls but bloomberg sitting off to the side think if this doesn't work out i am here for you, sanders
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supporters, warren and klobuchar eating up a portion of that moderate mid left vote. the problem we run into is everyone eating up a small portion of the vote and so many candidates left in the race that there is no way to do anything other than get a plurality of the votes. neil: if bernie sanders goes to the convention, fails to have the 2000 delegates you would need, the sanders voters fear they will be robbed again. they claim 2016 they were robbed of that vote. i covered it at the time. they weren't. it was proportional to the popular vote but having said that they are not going to be happy campers. >> we could see similar to 1968 at the democratic convention, absolute chaos and unrest. the bernie pros are going to be really upset. neil: the backdrop was very
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exciting. >> the bernie supporters will be really unhappy because essentially they are starting to predict, they are getting ramped up for what they think will happen which is superdelegates will rob bernie and handed over to all people, a billionaire, the most anti-bernie -- neil: of legal bloomberg is the instance beneficiary. >> i do. the other candidates are going away. >> i don't think it will happen in the second ballot. if you look at the situation we are in where the split is 26%, they have over 100 rounds. i don't think this will happen in two rounds, that they have already decided. neil: it was for lincoln. >> there have been a few like that. neil: over 100.
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and an outside candidate. >> lincoln got it in three rounds. how many rounds will he be? it is when you were liking it to the iowa caucus, people making the argument, the street fighting, that is what we will see, if bloomberg does take it after a brokered convention we will have a lot of americans really unhappy with that. three of four americans feel it is an unfair system, 70% want with a wealthy tax worried if he takes this, very large anti-billionaire sentiment in this country, it is going to be a big problem that he has to deal with. >> it ends of going down that path. it is not a brokered convention. how is that candidate going to raise enough money to compete with donald trump?
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practically speaking. neil: committed -- >> $1 million. >> bernie no matter what bernie said bloomberg but if there is a brokered convention you have someone like a moderate, joe biden paired with someone in the mold of bernie sanders like kennedy all bj style. neil: you have given up on that. >> biden will run out of money, you are seeing the softer support in south carolina and in southern states. neil: he can't adjust win south carolina. >> he has to win by eight points. when you make your case about being electable which is what hillary clinton did, once you stop being electable and show those tractors. neil: joe biden leaving a fundraiser. >> drop out joe. >> nevada and south carolina, go home early. >> it really is a cool world.
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that was a big fundraiser in new york, it is a nice some but wasn't the million expected. >> if you try to compete in texas it will cost 20, $30 million to put tv ads up, california it will cost 10-$15 million. supertuesday for these candidates, a lot of people are running out of money and bloomberg will put up $100 million of ads just for supertuesday. neil: someone could literally by -- >> this guy earned his money legitimately. neil: he will get there because he has a lot of money. >> after this we will finally get rid of citizens united, campaign-finance reform. neil: that will never happen. >> what people are saying in terms of he will by the selection, that is exactly what he is doing. it is very clear.
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neil: if that is the case is this a great country where any billionaire can run for president and make it. kind of interesting. two american universities getting into hot water over foreign donations after this. man, i'm thinking tacos. hey hey! you guys look like foodies. would you like to try our trashy back ribs? oh, that sounds great... everything is locally harvested, farm to dumpster to table. uhhh, what do you... what else do you got? (stammering) w-we have a melon rind stew. comes with a pork and bean reduction. yeah, we're going to just do a lap and we'll come back. okay. well, we'll be here. man! why isn't this working? my mouth is watering. i think that's just your rabies flaring up. with geico, the savings keep on going. just like this sequel. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. we got gristle pot pies!
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neil: they are for smarty-pants, harvard and you make it in apps, the university, use bound report millions of dollars of donations and gifts. lauren simonetti, this woman does not stop. >> reporter: the education department want information from harvard, yale and other universities on which parties gave the money and how much. they believe colleges failed to
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report at least $6 million in funding from countries including china and saudi arabia, this money can buy influence, access to american trade secrets and cutting-edge technology. thar for the trump administration wants to return on their investment, they were they will use it to narrow economic or military apps with the us. harvard and yale in particular failed to report hundreds of millions of dollars in countries that include russia and iran, yale boasted significant presence abroad but did report a single foreign gift or contract between 2014, 2017. the department zeroing in on records related to two chinese telecoms, huawei and ge and russia's christie lab and the foundation of iran.
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failing to report foreign money had an effect, ten schools have come forward and reported $3.6 billion including cornell, mit and carnegie mellon. the education department can refer the matter to the justice department which can take civil criminal actions. the law requires universities report 250,$000 in retails twice a year. neil: we are getting a bulletin carrying it from the drudge report, close to the bloomberg campaign, hillary clinton has a running mate after they found polling of the bloomberg clinton tickets being a formidable force, a lot of headlines and bulletin stories, we will have more on this after this. ♪
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neil: if true it could be a startling development, drudge is reporting michael bloomberg is considering hillary clinton as a potential running mate on the heels of a lot of folks in the bloomberg campaign saying polling wise it would be a formidable ticket. before you dismiss this keep in mind the number of stories the drudge report has broken over the years including john mccain's pick in sarah palin to be his running mate in 2008 and the most famous of all the bill clinton monica lewinsky story months before anyone got a hold of it or what was going on. others in between included what
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prince andrew going on a tour of afghanistan, military duty, i say this with a grain of salt but not dismiss the source, the drudge report saying michael bloomberg is seriously considering hillary clinton to be his running mate. we are pursuing this and trying to get to the bottom of it and if there's anything to it. all is occurring at the nevada caucuses, voting could be underway for the message goes through next saturday. allison barber has more on that. >> reporter: it is crunch time. joe biden redeployed some staffers from the super tuesday states to nevada and south carolina. he has 150 staffers on the ground, bernie sanders has a well-established ground game as well and has 250 staffers. amy klobuchar on new hampshire
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primary night had 30 people on the ground but as those numbers started coming in she started to perform better than some people were expecting. one of her senior campaign staffers told me they were upping her staff on the ground from 30 staffers to 50, klobuchar announced her first big nevada ad 7 figures and tv spot airing in the markets, pete buttigieg with his first nevada tv spot. going to advertising analytics, 150,$000 on ads in this state. tom stier, $10.4 million on ads in nevada all loan, the biggest vendor in the state by far. >> we are thrilled with the progress of this campaign but only two states in. so much depends what happens next. >> i figured from the beginning this would be a long nomination process. >> you guys want count the
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votes, right? i know you know how to count things in reno. >> reporter: nevada is significant because it is a more diverse state, new hampshire and iowa are white states. looks a lot more like america, has a large hispanic population. it is also significant because the caucus, after the mess and iowa people are watching it closely. the issues and iowa started with a failure of any reporting apps. they will use a similar apps but after the issues in iowa they decided to scrap it and are using technology developed by google that is off-the-shelf. after the issues we saw in iowa will not happen in nevada. we will see in 7 days. neil: what happens in vegas will have to stay in vegas.
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everything your trip needs for everyone you love. expedia. >> all right. the plot thickens. a little more in the drudge report story making the rounds where michael bloomberg is considering hillary clinton to be a running mate and again, this is only a drudge report, but i don't dismiss it out of hand because the drudge report has a startling history of scooping traditional media, whatever you want to call them these days. and broke the monica lewinsky story and a story that sarah palin would be the running mate of john mccain. this hillary clinton story gets more detail and read into the article, bloomberg himself is considering changing his official residence from florida or colorado since the electoral
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college makes it difficult for a president and vice-president to come from the same state and he's thought that through to the degree. he wants to iron out possible difficulties that could arise. we're going to explore that with the wife of bernie sanders, and it could be a vice-president in the nomination. we'll keep you posted. the coronavirus, spreading across the globe, started with china and now other countries and the rescue of americans off the ship in japan. >> neil, japan's health ministry says 67 more people aboard the quarantined diamond cruise ship has been infected with the coronavirus bringing total cases to 285 on board the docked ship. about 380 americans are aboard the diamond princess which is docked in yokohama. a port city southwest of tokyo.
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the japanese health minister says it will help start evacuating americans off the quarantined vessel. it has a chartered flight to bring american citizens back to the u.s. everyone will have to undergo a health screening before they're on the flight and anyone who shows symptoms will not be allowed on the plane. those who do make the flight and arrive in the u.s. must undergo two more weeks of quarantine. and some through travis air force base in california and some to lackland in texas. china has reported more new cases, a significant drop from the 5,000 cases reported in the previous 24 hours. this brings the country's total to more than 66,000 infected. the nine temporary hospitals have opened in public buildings and gyms to help other hospitals and medical facilities overwhelmed with sick patients in china where more 66,000 have
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been infected and the world health organization has named the illness corvid-19. and in france, a victim has an 80-year-old chinese tourist from the epicenter of the virus. his daughter got sick, but authorities say she's expected to recover. yesterday egypt reported its first infection on the african continent and so far 15 cases have been reported in the u.s., including eight here in california. a team of world health organization experts are set to work in china this weekend further to investigate this illness, neil. neil: thank you very much, christina coleman. c.d.c. says that the coronavirus will likely stay beyond this year. and the acting homeland security secretary, chad wolf. thank you for i think jo--
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thank you for joining us. i talked about someone on the boat off to the coast of japan who doesn't want to get off and doesn't want to take the plane back to the united states and not psyched about requarantined in the united states. are you running into folks on that ship of a similar mind? they don't want to get off? >> no, not particularly. look, we put a number of measures in place. president trump has been very clear the safety and security of the american people are first and foremost. so the measures that we put in place several weeks ago, we were in the first country to put travel restrictions in place, the 11 airports that were screening individuals, it is working as you indicated at the top of the segment only 15 cases in the u.s., that's because of the measures we put in place so making sure that we screen all the flights coming from china, any individual that's been in china in the last 14 days needs to be checked out not only by dhs medical professionals and c.d.c. professionals. we're doing that. we're doing it in the air environment and maritime ports
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of entry and land ports of are entry. the procedures we've put in place are working. >> so for those who opt not taking you up on flying back to the united states, one way or the other are they're going to be examined when they're back in the united states whether on this particular jet or other means in the future? >> that's correct. the measures we have in place are saying in place for the forseeable future. whether they come back to the u.s. the next several days or several weeks, they're medically screened by dhs as well as c.d.c. professionals and either self-home quarantined in a sense or quarantined by health officials. neil: secretary, do we know what came of that meeting between the president and new york governor andrew cuomo on settling the sanctuary city program and entry to the united states. >> we did have a productive
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meeting, both the governor and president want to find a solution to this. i would like to find a solution to this, but it requires making sure that c.d.c. has access to fully vet trusted travelers. we do not have access now with new york state law restricted that access or limited that access so i've been very clear with the governor and talked to him we need that access to vet the trusted travelers. and we need access to the data base for law enforcement, customs and national security related reasons. anytime we're building up sail lows with law enforcement is dangerous. we see a number of states going this route and we're taking action not only in the form of what we did last week, but also through lawsuits, department of justice as a partner and we're suing these localities because it's dangerous to public safety, security, and again, building up these silos. what we learned after 9/11, you need to be able to connect the dots and law enforcement needs to talk to one another and share information. when states decide to put up a
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wall between that information, that becomes dangerous. neil: i'm curious why we haven't had a follow up for this, mr. secretary, because obviously new york wants to remain a sanctuary state for the most part. so are you saying that this would be focused exclusively on those who try to get into this country or get checked and screened when they arrive in this country and leave it at that? >> well, we're certainly looking at that. obviously, that's what new york would like to do and i'm concerned making sure that cdp with do their customs job. that we have cdp offices at buffalo and elsewhere, making sure that they're able to screen individuals and screen individuals coming into the country and use that new york data base to do just that and right now they cannot screen individuals coming into the country. and if we see a car at a port of entry and find narcotics in it, how do we determine, what are their associations and
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connecting those dots and sharing that law enforcement information that's critically important to our job and right now because the state of new york passed our law, we're unable to do that. >> are you worried that a boomerangs on you and more to the point that the people trying to get into the country and the new york court is an investment haven to say nothing of just a destination haven, that that could be in jeopardy, that this could whammy us economically. >> right now we have to have the ability to do that. to this day, new york does not allow us to vet trusted travelers through their data base. that's a security, and jeopardizes three or four other programs. before i shut it down across the board, across the country, i don't want to do that and we have to look at the vulnerability that new york created when they passed this law. that's what they've done now and we'll continue to talk with the governor and again this week, i'm sure to find the solution.
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we want to do that, but the precedent that is-- that new york has done here, restricting access to cvp as well as to ice, to do their law enforcement mission, puts the new york residents at jeopardy. >> do you know whether the governor and the president, you know, left on good terms? did it get nasty, what? >> no, like i said, it was a productive meeting. i was in the meeting. it was a cordial meeting and we've talked about the vulnerability that i've outlined here and we agreed to go away and come up with a solution and i think we will find a solution, but we've got to be able to, again, share that information with the law enforcement officers at the department of homeland security, so they can do their job. i'm not willing to cut corners and enroll people in trusted travelers programs that we cannot fully vet. neil: secretary, thank you for taking the time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. neil: do you wonder what bernie
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sanders thinks of the latest developments, and michael bloomberg is seriously entertaining putting hillary clinton on the ticket. it would be a formidable duo. how would that affect bernie sanders? we'll ask jane sanders after this. [ distant band playing ] have you ever wondered what the motorcade driver drives when they're not in a motorcade? [ upbeat music starts ] [ engine revving ] ♪ this one drives a volkswagen passat. ♪
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>> all right. we're hearing from the bloomberg campaign on the drudge report story that has the former new york mayor talking to hillary clinton to be his running mate. a one-two combo that would obviously be a formidable polling force. but the bloomberg folks saying they're focus on the primary and debate, not denying it outright. here for these fast-moving developments is the wife of bernie sanders. >> good to see you. that's the first-- today is the first i've heard about this so i'm not here to
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respond to that, but you know, mayor bloomberg can choose whoever he wants for a running mate, but he's not going to get there. neil: okay. there's a push to find an alternative to your husband. with a -- what do you make of that? >> well, i think it's pretty obvious. i think that he's running a campaign that's not me-us, it's about getting the working class a fair shake, being able to provide medicare for all, affordable health care, affordable education and a green new deal. the powers that be in the status quo that don't want him to do those things. they're using lots of other reasons why they don't support him, but the fact is, it's the issues and we are talking about transforming this country not having the powers that be continue to be the powers that be.
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make it more government of the people and by the people. neil: i guess what a lot of them are saying, while they respect your husband a great deal, jane, they think he's a sure loser. joe biden was all, but indicating that last night. i want you to respond to this. >> bernie's a self-described socialist-- democratic socialist, that's kind of a hard label to run and win in in an awful lot of states. neil: what do you make of that? >> well, i think that everybody is seeming to focus on the label and they're not talking about what is underneath. the fact is that we have socialism right now in this country. but it's not democratic socialism, it's corporate socialism, president trump's got 800 million dollars for his real estate development company, that's corporate socialism paid for from the working class to the rich. we see that all the time. subsidies for the fossil fuel
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industries. we think the priorities need to be shifted so that people get those subsidies and we have the ability to access higher education if you have the willingness and the ability to do so. we want people to be less stressed about having health care and being able to afford health care or at home care for their elderly parents. i mean, i think that it is -- which side are you on? and it's clear to everybody who knows him, and maybe that's why they respect him, is that bernie honestly and consistently is on the side of the working class. neil: no one ever doubts that. he's been very -- i've covered him for decades and days in burlington, vermont. what comes up, jay jane, is tha this guy cannot win. that may not be a fair assumption. and on an issue like medicare
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for all, if there was an appetite for that throughout the democratic party, you would see it and there isn't, let alone the nation. how do you respond to that? >> i disagree. i disagree. in 2016 bernie raised the idea of medicare for all, tuition-free college and climate change being a very important issue that we had to deal with. $15 minimum wage. we were told by many, many people those things were ridiculous, they can't happen. well, seven states and 40 cities have raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour. places like my university of tennessee where i went and it is not a radical institution, now have free tuition as well as many other places. medicare for all is the dominant conversation that we're having now because people realize, it's not farfetched. every other country in the world. every other industrialized country in the world has
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universal health care for people. they don't have to worry about going bankrupt when they get a cancer diagnosis. they don't have to worry about going to the doctor or affording their prescription drugs because people think in those countries, and we believe in our country, that health care is a right, not a privilege. it should be something that we do not have to be stressed about. >> but a lot of those democrats, jane, like their private health insurance, they might gripe about certain aspects of it, but a lot of them like what they have. so he when there's talk we're going to take that away and do this, they rightly get anxious. >> well, if it's -- if it's taken that way. the fact is they doesn't like their health insurance, they don't like aetna, blue cross, cigna, they like their health care and this health care, the medicare for all will not only be as good as medicare, which is the most popular insurance company in the country today, but it will improve and expand
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health care by offering dental care, hearing aids, eyeglasses, and at-home long-term health care, so that we don't have to have people who are elderly, disabled, or really dealing with very serious diseases have to go to nursing home. so i think that if we can ever get beyond the top level, oh, democratic socialism, oh, take away health insurance, and actually have the media help inform the public about what the options are. we don't think that you'll be on our side and say this is what it is, this is what we should have, but to say this is what mayor bloomberg thinks, this is what senator sanders thinks, this is what various people, various candidates think. the people will decide and all polls show that medicare for all is very favored right now, and i think-- >> well, depends on the poll. you're right. can i ask you this, and first
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chance i've had to talk to you since obviously hillary clinton commented in an interview that no one really likes your husband, still don't. >> i like him. neil: how did you feel as a wife and supporter, what did you think about that? >> i like him. [laughter] >> i think a lot of people like him. neil: why do you think she said that. >> i'm not here to talk about hillary clinton. neil: okay. let me ask you about the convention and what happens if your husband arrives with the most delegates, but not 1,991 delegates and he doesn't win on the first ballot. that's where the super delegates come into play and it's assumed that they will not be keen on your husband. then what? >> well, let's get there first. i mean, when you say people say he's not electable, he won iowa, he won new hampshire, he's leading in nevada, he's leading in california, all the polls-- he's leading in texas.
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all the polls show he's electable. neil: are you worried, jane. >> our hope-- >> are you worried if he doesn't win it on the first ballot despite all of that and looks unlikely, a follow-up ballot, again, the super delegates rule of thumb they're going to go for an establishment figure, does that worry you? >> i tend to not worry and waste time on hypotheticals. i think that what we need to do is win and win well in all the races. the problem is by having, starting with 25 people, 11 in new hampshire after a higher number in iowa and now we're down to eight, the problem with having so many people is it makes it hard for anybody to gain the number of delegates they need, but the field is winnowing and i think that he will win. neil, you're not wrong. i mean, that is a concern, but my hope and expectation is that
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the dnc will give the nomination to the person that has the plurality and be fair. that's all we want, a fair shot. neil: jane sanders, thank you very, very much. the fallout from that after this. during wayfair's mattress markdowns event save up to 65% off top mattress brands. now through february 24th. score extra savings on mattresses from tempurpedic, serta, beautyrest and sealy, starting at just $399! kick back and relax while we do all the heavy lifting.
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>> well, you just heard from jane sanders responding to this story, tepidly, i might point out, that michael bloomberg and hillary clinton might hook up a force if they would run as president and vice-president. she was more keen on the fact her husband has the momentum and ultimately get the nomination, recognizing the reality though that it better happen on a first ballot. lee carter, michael starr
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hopkins. i got the feeling though, michael if it doesn't happen on the first ballot, it's unlike lie once the super delegates are involved they're not going for him. it's not going to happen. what do you think. >> i think there's a worry if sanders doesn't get the nomination and he is leading in the delegate count that his supporters won't support whoever the nominee is and without that block the supporters it's going to be tough for democrats to win. at the same time, sanders is popular, he has a movement, so you know, there's a wing of the party that we need to be participating in and while sanders may be able to beat trumps he's going to sink a lot of the moderates that helped the democrats in the house. neil: you think that he-- >> i think he could beat the president, but everyone else down ticket could have difficulty. neil: what do you think? >> i think there's a primary voter and focus on the primary voter, i think that bloomberg is
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focused on the general election voter and that's why he's floating some things that he's floating. neil: do you buy it? >> two-thirds of americans aren't going to vote in the primaries. he's focused on moderates in the middle and he know that hillary clinton won the popular vote. my big question though is what does this mean for some of the states he's going to have to win. 's going to have to win pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, have to win michigan. is hillary going to carry those places for him? i'm not so sure. then i think he's not focused on the bernie voter. he's looking at who his voter is. what's going to happen with the bernie voter. 15% went for donald trump. what's that going to mean, are they going to be more upset this time than last time bernie voters. is that going to cause a problem for him? i would question what's going to happen here because i think he's very focused on what his voter is, but might not be focused on
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the rest. neil: might be ahead of his skis here. and hillary clinton herself, not too long ago she was on "ellen" and the question was thrown at her whether she was interested or would be interested in the vice-president vice-presidenc vice-presidency, do we have that. >> being vice-president, would you do it? [laughter] >> well, that's not going to happen, but, no, probably no. >> you don't know that's not going to happen. >> i think i do, yeah. >> really? >> i think i do, yes, i think i do. >> all right. but what if they did? >> oh, well, look, it's like when barack obama asked me to be secretary of state. i was shocked. i had no idea he was going to ask me and i turned him down twice. he said i need-- look the economy is in freefall, it's a catastrophe i've got to focus on that, we've got problems around the world and you focus on that i said, no, no, i'm happy where i am. you get somebody else, i'm sure there are other people around the and the second time i said
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no, mr. president elect, i'm not going to do it. he said i'm not calling you again until you say yes. i started thinking if i'd won and wanted to ask him to do something, i would have wanted him to do that for me, so i never say never because i believe in serving my country. >> no you will. >> never say never, if that were the ticket what do you think. >> two things, one, there's a constitutional issue. bloomberg is a new yorker, hillary clinton is a new yorker. neil: the follow-up to that, he's entertaining. >> colorado or florida. neil: colorado or florida and quickly take care of that. >> i will say that hillary clinton lost the last election by basically 77,000 votes. a lot of people stayed home. i'd be interested to see if those people this go round would come out because they didn't last time because it's a close election. neil: would the ticket do that? >> we'll see. i don't think that anybody wants to relitigate hillary's e-mails,
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but a lot democrats want to get rid of rip and that would be their fantasy. >> this would be an elite ticket. they look down on the average american, they look down on the trump voter and that energizes trump's base like nobody's job. i would be worried if i were bloombe bloomberg-- >> trump literally lived in a golden tower. >> he's a blue collar billionaire. neil: i think the day is gone that we second guess billionaires running. thank you very much. and two senators, opposite sides of the aisle on not only this, but they were in a war powers resolution, and a lot going on. we'll keep you posted after this. dropped to near 50 year lows.st veterans can refinance their va loans with no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. newday has extended our call center hours so that every veteran in america can take advantage
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transitions light under control. ♪ upbeat music transitions signature gen 8, available now in 4 new style colors. transitions. >> the senate slapping down the president on the war powers resolution and even eight republicans joining along to say, mr. president, go slow. what did you think of it? what do they think of it? >> i think this is a very typical debate that the world watches. i spent eight years at u.n. and certainly we've sen this debate before. i think that congress has a role to play. they're always going to be aggressive trying to be in control, but we need to have a white house and a president who is able to read the intelligence and respond. neil: all right. so the senate does approve the war powers resolution, not that it's going to go anywhere, whether the president signs or not. in fact, they didn't attach this
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to appropriation means it could die on the vine. nevertheless, it's a powerful signal to send to the president. senator jim risch on that. senator, what did you make of what the ambassador was saying. message sent, but this president very clear, he'll do what he has to do. >> yeah, neil, i think that's the bottom line, he'll do what he has to. look, you can go way back on this. when they wrote the constitution, they were very clear that they gave the first branch of government the power to declare war. they directed and gave the power to the second branch of government, namely the commander-in-chief to defend the country, defend americans and that was a really good statement back in the 18th century when that was written in the low tech world. in today's world there's a lot-- of course, that was in contention even back then and it's more so now. but look, this is a very valid
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and legitimate debate to have. we had a robust debate. it's unfortunate that the debate is wrapped around this iranian situation. we need a clear voice to iran, to the regime in iran, not the iranian people, they're good people. they'd like to do things different, but the regime needs to have a good, clear understanding of where this president is coming from. and he delivered that message when he took out soleimani. neil: well, that, some people, senator was the impetus behind getting this going in the first place. eight of your colleagues, republican colleagues went ahead to vote for this thinking that we cannot forget congress's unique role and the senate's unique role in declaring war, and empowering the other body to have a say in such things. what's wrong with that point of view? >> absolutely nothing wrong with that point of view, and indeed, i'm a strong believer in that.
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number one, there is no doubt that we don't go to war unless the congress of the united states says we will. however, having said that, we got more power than that, and that is every single year, we pass a national defense authorization act, and we pass appropriations in which we can put guide bars-- side bars and restrictions and everything else on and we do, we do restain that power now. >> thank you, senator. and from the democratic senator, pennsylvania, bob casey. very good to have you. what do you make of this? especially let's say the president doesn't sign this, he won't. there obviously aren't enough votes to override that so it dies on the vine pretty much, doesn't it? >> well, neil, it's good to be with you. i think it was, a, critically important debate as senator risch just indicated and look, it's been too long and too
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infrequently do we debate the issue of the grave responsibility of the congress when it comes to war. it's actually easier for members of the house and senate to push that responsibility on to the president, but i think it's dangerous. the country after so many years of war, whether it's, especially with regard to the iraq war, i think the country wants the kind of deliberation about this grave question. all of this resolution does, really, is say that absent a declaration of war or a specific authorization for war, the president can engage in hostilities and it does leave that fail safe that if the president believes there's an imminent attack, he can take action. so i think it's reasonable. but i think there are a lot of people that want to avoid this question because members of congress don't like voting on such a con consequential usual like war. neil: and the democrats and
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republicans and essentially barack obama when it came to escalating the fight in syria threw it in congress's hands and they bolted from that. he kind of tested them and they abdicated this. and presidents have to make the decisions on their own, republicans or democrats. do you think you did to to the future, even a democratic president? >> i don't think so. the debate is long overdue. the fact we didn't have it over many years is a bipartisan failure. i realize it's easier for a president who is a republican or democrat to take action without having any constraints or without having any kind of debate, but i think the resolution as it's crafted leaves open the possibility that the president has all the power that he or she would need in the instance of an imminent attack, but it does require that we engage in a kind of deliberation and debate prior to a
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declaration or an authorization. so i think it's constitutionally consistent, but i think especially after what we've been through, a lot of americans want the responsibility for this question to be the subject of appropriate debate. neil: senator, while i've got you here as a prominent democrat, i'm sure you've heard the stories that michael bloomberg, hillary clinton would be his running mate and i had jane sanders on, the wife of bernie sanders who just dismissed it out of hand. the reason i mention it is the latest reminder that some of the party are worried about bernie sanders were the nominee that they'd go down to defeat. jane sanders kind of dismissed that, she hopes that he would have the most delegates and that would be enough. would you agree or disagree, the most delegates, even not 1991
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would have have it. >> i support joe biden, one, his character, two, his experience, three, his ideas and plans for his presidency, number 4, he can win pennsylvania, a practical consideration. neil: he's dropping like a stone. >> it's early. neil: does that concern you? >> he's going to be competing in states with a diverse and broad electorate. like he's said 99% of latino voters and african-american voters haven't voted yet so it's a long way to go, but look, we're going to have a robust process and there are rules that govern who becomes the nominee based upon delegates and i'm sure those rules will be followed. neil: the reason why i ask, times, very few arrived at a convention very few republican or democrat with all the delegates, but sometimes just formidable leads, president trump in to 16 or certainly barack obama in 2008 that the
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nomination is almost assured there. jane didn't seem to be afraid that the party wouldn't be accommodating in that event. what do you think? >> well, i'll say what i see in pennsylvania when i campaigned in 2018 for reelection, and more generally. i have never seen more unity and even unanimity if i can use that word when it comes to focus or democrats on winning the presidency in 2020. so the mechanics of that, i'm sure, will be able to work out, but i think there's an awful lot of unity which would undergird the decisions made at the convention, i think the rules will be followed and they should be. neil: would hillary clinton be influencing force if she were on the ticket with michael bloomberg in your state? what do you think? >> neil, because i support joe biden and he has not talking about running mate, i'm not going to talk about it. neil: touche'. you've got me there.
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senator casey always good having you. thank you very much. >> thanks, neil. neil: in the meantime, did you remember valentine's yesterday? apparently one out of five men, men forgot. now, what do you do? ♪ what's love got to do with it ♪ ♪ what love, but a secondhand emotion ♪ ♪ what's love got to do with it ♪ hello, i saw you move in, and i wanted to welcome you to the neighborhood with some homemade biscuits! >>oh, that's so nice! and a little tip, geico could help you save on homeowners insurance. >>hmm! >>cookies! uhh, biscuits. >>mmmm, is there a little nutmeg in there? oh it's my mum's secret recipe. >>you can tell me. it's a secret. >>is it cinnamon? it's my mum's secret recipe. call geico and see how easy saving on homeowners and condo insurance can be. i'll come back for the plate.
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>> all right. can you imagine this? yesterday love in the air unless you played cupid and unless you forgot it was valentine's day. upwards of one in five men, and i don't know want to be sexist, apparently did. what happens to them as they struggle off the coach in the living room? let's ask lauren and dan. >> oh, boy. neil: if your husband forgot the big day? what would today be like? . i'm not a big fan of it, he
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didn't forget because it's everywhere, no way you can forget it. you might have forgotten leading up to it, but it's valentine's day and everybody is wearing red and signs everywhere. i'd be worried if he forgot. neil: the billinger question would be who am i hooked up with. >> that's totally a women's perspective. this holiday is nothing more than an opportunity to fail for men. >> i agree with you. >> and i just think that we should do away-- >> why were you wearing a red tie yesterday? because you forgot. >> i would not forget, but i think the holiday is all bad for men and it's not right. neil: why is it bad for men? the pressure is on them? >> yeah, and i don't know why is that? why is the pressure on men. neil: yeah, why is the pressure on men? >> i don't know, i don't know. >> that's my point. that's my point. >> it's an unfair-- you're married, we're all married. i don't think there's significance, but i feel really bad for people newly in relationships or maybe close to
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having a relationship and then there's valentine's day and it's like, oh, what do you do? you don't want to give too much, too little. neil: and the houses now that have two master bedrooms because couples sleep apart. >> and i think there's a stigma if two separate bedrooms. it's pretty common and it's not a bad thing. if you're a snorer, there's problems if i have to get up early. neil: you wouldn't advocate it all the time? >> whatever floats your boat, whatever works for you. as a result. builders and designers are building homes for two master suites, but intergenerational-- >> well, dan has two master wings. >> when i first met neil he gave me sage device, -- advice, he said, stay out of
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other people's bedrooms. [laughter] >> i never said that. >> it's good advice. neil: what do you think when you hear that trend, not like dick vandyke and mary tyler moore, twin beds. you and i were the only ones that got the reference. >> you know how i see it, there are people out there, negative on valentine's day. >> really? >> a lot of people out there that don't want to get divorced because it's too expensive, so they end up in effect becoming roommates. so you take that room and i take this one. >> c.p.a., i know, exactly what i was thinking. neil: everything is practical with mr. romance here. >> you raise a good point. after we did the stories two days ago, so many people came up to me and tweeted at me, you know, we actually do this or i remember when my wife was pregnant she just was picky and uncomfortable, i slept in the spare room or i remember this and it's actually a thing. so why should you get the inferior bedroom the spare room
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>> all right. well, it's going to get cold really, really cold. a bitter freeze gripping much of the northeast and it's getting a wider swath. fox's meteorologist adam klotz, what is causing this problem? >> yeah, it's been relatively mild winter across new england and the east coast. not the case this weekend. currently at 26 degrees at new york city. fall back across the midwest and temperatures by and large are down into the 20's. and here is a little bit of a tighter view on that. you see especially back in the
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midwest 21 in detroit. 21 in green bay. you add in the winds and the numbers drop significantly. suddenly see a whole lot of places in single digits and some cases 4 below in burlington. it continues to be very cold. really, a cold winter snap where it's been so mild. it doesn't last particularly long. i show you the forecast highs for you on saturday. again, numbers down at freezing, below freezing, but by sunday and then into monday, suddenly in a lot of the cases already ballooning back up into the 40's. that's going to be the case close to chicago. the same here in new york city. so, it doesn't last a horribly long time. the other story across the country, winter weather continues to kind of batter portions of the northeast-- or excuse me the pacific northwest. these are areas where we're looking at winter storm watches and warnings and snowfall in some cases especially at higher elevations from a foot to getting up 18 inches of total snowfall. here is what this looks like over the last 24 hours. really the leading edge of what
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could be a pretty good snowstorm running on the coast and satisfying heavy rain from portland up to seattle. this starts to run over higher elevations, neil, that's when we big snowstorms. and we're moving through february and, yeah, winter weather on both side of the country. neil: adam, thank you, very very much. adam klotz. and want to take a peek at an amy klobuchar event. this isn't for a week from now. but given that it's a caucus you go start voting now and through the next week when final votes are tabulated. you can remember iowa the mess they had. in nevada saying not going to happen here. more after this.
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>> man, oh, man, is it a busy two hours or what. air looking at an amy klobuchar event at las vegas, nevada.
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they hope to start today and avoid the problems that iowa had. and if anyone's guess the same smartphone program used there will not be used here. i don't know if they have other technology that they rely on. if it involves punching in a pin, that's a problem in iowa pin it in three times and like an atm car, eats it up. and more on the drudge story, and michael bloomberg is potentially considering hillary clinton on as a potential running mate and that would be quite the voting force, even though it's not changing minds right now. we just talked to senator casey, the democratic backer of joe biden in pennsylvania, says as things stand now he's still with joe biden. how much that could change the landscape is anyone's guess. obviously, you heard from jane sanders, the wife of bernie sanders, it's still bernie sanders who will enter the convention in milwaukee with the most delegates and by her math,
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the delegates that will close the deal and make him the democratic nominee for president. if this is a true story that's coming from drudge, this is michael bloomberg's way of saying not so fast, bernie. fox continues next. ♪ > >> president trump and bill barr fielding criticism from democratic lawmakers who are questioning the motives behind the doj's decision to shorten sentencing recommendations for roger stone. welcome to america's news headquarters, i'm molly line. >> that story started this week and blew up. it's not going to end over the weekend. i'm leland vittert. and they decided not to charge andrew mccabe after a long criminal investigation into some of his actions on the job. rk

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