tv Outnumbered FOX News June 4, 2020 9:00am-10:00am PDT
>> ed: sandra, is it friday at? >> sandra: [laughs] we are not there yet. almost. but we work sunday. if you woke up this morning you had to think about it, right? [laughs] will let you guys know. thanks for joining us, everybody. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with breaking news. u.s. navy veteran michael white is free from iran after nearly two years in detention. president trump touting the development on twitter, saying white will finally be home with his family soon. his release follows four months of negotiations between state department officials and the iranian government with switzerland acting as an intermediary. he was the first american to be detained in iran since president trump took office, and is right now on a swift government flight headed to zurich wil where he will be
transferred into u.s. custody before returning to him dumb i come to america. much more on this breaking story coming up this hour. and we are watching this, as well. awaiting remarks from attorney general bill barr, and we are told that's going to happen within minutes from now. attorney general barr could comment on the investigation into the death of george floyd. a memorial for floyd also set to take place this afternoon. this, as three of the former minneapolis police officers arrested in floyd's death are set to make their first court appearance in about an hour after they were charged yesterday with aiding and abetting second-degree murder. that charge, as you may know by now, was an upgrade from third-degree murder against the officer seen kneeling on floyd's neck for nearly 9 minutes. until he died. authorities are cautioning this case will not be resolved quickly. watch. >> this is going to take months,
and i don't know how many, but it is better to make sure that we have a solid case, fully investigated, researched, before we go to trial, than to rush it. it will take a while, and i can't set a deadline on that. >> harris: this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. attorney and fox news contributor, emily compagno. fox news contributor, jessica tarlov. joining us in central virtual box today, fox news political analyst, gianno caldwell. great to see everybody today. i want first get your comments as we begin the memorializing of george floyd today. it goes on through funerals scheduled into next week. >> gianno: this is the moment i think a lot of people will remember.
george started what could be an excellent moment in america. when i say that, i'm talking about we can see real reforms happening in our system of policing. i think for a lot of african-americans this moment is one that a lot of people have hoped for, and i'm not talking about the memorial service, but what we may actually see come from the memorial. i think individuals should understand, as we discussed the pain that african-americans have experienced over the course of years, that we don't wallow in just that pain. we have to look for solutions to bring our country together and move it forward. fairness and justice for all. >> harris: and you leave us where i want to start, with emily compagno now. that is that element of justice. and we know coming up at the half-hour point, emily, the attorney general william barr is set to speak. we don't have details yet on when he'll he'll touch on, but looking at the guest list with him, floyd and those charges
will likely come up. where do we put what happens going forward with those charges now? i mean, are they get tough enough? there was a call to make them tougher, and that has happened. >> emily: that's exactly right, harris. what we are looking at how is a higher degree of culpability. what this is is an unintentional murder, as reflected in the charges. an unintentional murder while committing a felony. as we knew before, he was charged with second degree. or third degree, excuse me. now what is happening is the charges are that he unintentionally caused the death of another while committing a violent crime, and this is the kind of charge that is usually seen with, for example, drive-by shootings. it's an inherently violent felony that comes with a death that essentially the prosecutors at this point are saying, "we cannot prove, or it's likely we cannot prove, there was a premeditation involved." but i do have to point out he's now facing 40 years in prison as opposed to ten of the prior
through degree and manslaughter charges. i think it's important to note, too, when he brought up the notion of justice, in the state of minnesota there has only been one successful conviction of murder of a police officer, and that was mohammed noor a couple years ago. that was the australian woman who was killed. he was convicted of that third degree and he was sentenced to 12.5 years. the attorney general of minnesota's right to sort of say this will be a long, thorough process, but absolutely the charges he reflected, at a minimum, will be sought in that video. which was the assault in the third degree and the murder that was caused as a result. >> harris: i want to get back to keith ellison for it is a second with you, emily, and double down on this notion of where this is. did he set the bar too low, if you will, in the beginning? is there room now to get to murder 1? that's also being talked about given the homicide findings of two autopsies. >> emily: there is always room
to elevate the charges. as he described it, he said, "look at, we are going step-by-step." i think his point was building the case so it was airtight when it eventually comes before the judge. as he said, the court of public opinion is not the ultimate trier. what he's doing, i think, is building this case in as deliberate, methodical, and a slow and right as possible so there's absolutely -- it's an airtight case that the defense attorneys couldn't pierce in terms of procedure. the aiding and abetting is a big deal, as well. those three other officers there, that shows -- that indicates a culpability they seen the video. it's an intentional aid advisement council procurement of that death. so, that is not just merely standing by, that's not just a culpable negligence standard. that, too, indicates he sees that higher measure of culpability for all four of them from the video. >> harris: yeah. well, not just from what we see, but also the sound on that tape where there's other three
officers can be heard to say -- they were talking about the fact that he can't breathe. "should we turn them over?" jessica, part of the argument and all of this is that we've got in the eyes off -- we have taken our eyes off of george floyd, back on them today with the memorial, rightfully so. but because of all the peaceful protesting. mix in with those agitators within those groups and it became violent. >> jessica: i felt the focus has been able to remain on george floyd, because of how much of the protesting has been peaceful. i think the curfews in a lot of cases have done good to really highlight those that are doing this the right way, and those that are doing it the wrong way. i was particularly struck yesterday watching footage out of minneapolis when -- after keith ellison spoke. and all four officers were going to be charged. the chant turned to, "we got all four." that's a people are focusing on and why keith ellison wants to be clear that this will take a long time. that this is a rush thing. it
can't hoped happen quickly, but it does you can't get tested. i want to add to something that gianno said. there's a distinction between criminal justice reform and police reform. and we have really good opportunity if you look at the bills that are coming out, the congressional black caucus. cory booker has one, ayanna pressley and ilhan omar. the agenda biden set out in philadelphia, that there are clear reforms on the table including banning choke hold, racial bias training, a national police misconduct registry, that we can move towards that will hopefully quell the anxiety and the anger, and rightful rage that americans have written out at the way that black and brown people are treated by police officers. >> harris: all right, gianno, before you jump in, i want to get to melissa now. she also can respond to that. melissa? >> melissa: no, i mean, i love what both jessica and emily had to say about specifics. and we talked a lot about that on the show yesterday. but this is the kind of thing that drives me crazy. this is governor cuomo, he says,
"change comes when it's demanded by the people. i stand with the peaceful protesters for effective, meaningful reform." dude has been the governor since 2011. for these people who have been in office all of this time, to now stand there and say that they want reform, you must be talking about yourself. as we sit here, we just had two people very clearly go through some specific changes that we could put in place. the idea of a national registry? i mean, how many times have we heard people say you get fired from one police force for misconduct and you go somewhere else and it's as if those folks didn't know what happened? we've been talking about these kind of things for a while, but i hate the hypocrisy of people like cuomo who have been in charge in new york since 2011, and he says he is standing there for real reform and since you changed? what have you been doing with
your time in office, my friend? >> harris: gianno, i want to give you that one, but i also just want to also acknowledge what jessica said. the difference between criminal justice reform and what i would, if you allow me to paraphrase you, jessica, call "police training reform." that a sum of what's being talked about right now, as well. >> jessica: yes. >> gianno: yeah, i mean, i agree with a lot of the points that have been raised here. i also want to piggyback off of what melissa just said, with politicians like joe biden, for example, who sponsored the '94 crime bill which provided additional funding to hire a number of police officers, which is fine, but at the same time, if we look at the numbers -- and we are talking about reform, here. in 2014 there was almost $250 million paid out to settle cases of police brutality. in 2017, i believe it was, alone, there is over $300 million paid out from the city of new york when it comes
to those particular cases. so a lot of the politicians are forgetting the fact that they have added to the legacy of police brutality and violence, and they've had an opportunity to correct that, but they did not. for president obama, he had the 21st century task force on policing. that was great. however, a lot of those initiatives didn't move forward, and that is his legacy of failure that he has to deal with. so we have to keep in mind where this came from, and as we are having this conversation, president trump has a very unique opportunity to solve a lot of these issues that we are seeing in our communities. >> harris: that's an excellent point. and we will leave it there for now. we'll pick it up again. i want to get this good news and, because nobody in wider public sub happen, but we knew these negotiations are going on and now we know that they have given way to freedom. a u.s. navy veteran released after nearly two years of detention in iran. some calling it an extraordinary double medic success, which
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>> melissa: navy veteran michael white, the first american detained in iran during the trump administration, has been released and is now on a swift government flight to zurich where he will be transferred into u.s. custody. this follows nearly four months of negotiation between the state department and the iranian government, with switzerland acting as an intermediary. back in 2018, while visiting his girlfriend in iran, white was arrested on charges that he insulted the ayatollah and posted private photos on social media. he was sen sentenced to ten yean
prison. as part of the deal, they have agreed to release an iranian american doctor who served 16 months for violating u.s. sanctions against iran. white's release has been hailed as an extra nearly diplomatic success that could open the door for improving relations with tehran. >> the president has billed incredible relationships with leaders across this globe. we are now feared, respected, loved like we never have been in the past, thanks to this president's leadership, thanks to his relationship across the planet. that's what's important to him. this is another example of the president really standing up for the american people, bringing them home. it's a symbol of greatness. >> melissa: gianno, do you think this signals that there might be some movement forward on some of our other issues with iran? i bring this up because we have seen this in the past. you know, with north korea, for
example. it may not have yielded the results everybody wanted in the long run, but it does signal that people have been talking, and this is generally a first step in a new direction. what are your thoughts? >> gianno: i would hope so. at this time, we definitely need to improve our relationship with iran. i think president trump would be open to those kind of conversations. let's be honest, this man should have never been imprisoned at all. he was in prison for two years. he was a cancer patient and he had coronavirus, as well. this was a situation where he really needed to get out, get back to his country, the u.s., to get the care and help he needed. this isn't the first person in president trump's -- during his administration who has been released from iran. in december there was a princeton graduate student also released. at this particular point, i think we definitely need to seize the opportunity to work with iran and improve these relations, because they are a
power that could do some -- they said they wanted to do real harm to america, and we, especially during this time when we are going through crisis here at home, we have to avoid those kind of conflicts. >> melissa: emily, isn't it a stark reminder of human rights at a time when we are talking about human rights in our own country? and authority. you look at what this man was put in prison for, for insulting the ayatollah. if everybody who insulted the president was in jail... well, i don't need to finish that. what are your thoughts? >> jessica: [laughs] you be one panelist down, for sure! >> emily: that's absolutely right. one film i got human rights violations globally deserve our attention. the prior comments by the attorney for two of the americans still held in iran. that sums it up, where they say it was detained americans can undoubtedly make it home, the will of this initiation and the congress, both sides of the
aisle. i think he is sort of pointing out the fact that it's not just one person, obviously. this is only a moment to celebrate. for continued pressure, he requires everyone up there on the hill. all of those elected officials regardless of party affiliation. i think in this moment of our celebration we should also make a commitment to continue putting our attention toward these unlawfully detained americans in all countries, including in moscow right now, both who are also u.s. veterans, to just sort of stay vigilant with our coverage under interest. as you pointed out in the beginning, melissa, all human rights violations deserve attention. >> melissa: jessica, i mean, this is one thing the president has made one of the hallmarks of his administration. that he has put people in charge of bringing americans home, and now he brings home another one. >> jessica: it's undoubtedly a great day for the white family and for america in general.
i will hope that we see it worked out this way. it also comes back to the issue of how you can effectively work with iran, a nation that supports the most terrorism out of every nation in the world, they are not our friends. they chant "death to america." are we going to reenter into the iran nuclear deal, which are western allies part of that deal with us desperately want us to get back into? and that is at the end of the day what iran would want, as well. i think the trump administration is going to have to spend some time thinking about how they want to continue to have these outcomes, like bringing home people who are illegally detained. they are going to navigate the economic situation with sanctions with iran, the domestic terrorism and the international terrorism they carry out, and u.s. priorities in the region. i think that is what will have to come next. >> melissa: harris, real quick? >> harris: yeah, i just want to add to a desk i was saying.
what i have in front of me, we have to remember this other americans. in march, michael white was initially released on medical furlough. nine, you are talking about his health, but he was ordered to stay in iran at the time. now he's been treated. we are working now to free those other american citizens jessica was talking about in iran, a businessman, along with his dad. an american environmentalist, as well as trying to secure the remains of former fbi agent robert levinson. his family announced in late march that they have been told through intelligence that levinson had died in iranian custody. there is more work to be done, more pressure to be applied in the ways that jessica was talking about. but today is a day of progress. michael white is free. [doug burgum] >> melissa: and a dog somewhere among us agrees. we are waiting remarks from attorney general william barr over so many important opponents omens and the george loy case.
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>> harris: we are awaiting a news conference now with attorney general william barr. this, as federal authorities are investigating whether antifa linked agitators have been coordinating acts of violence during protests over the death of george lloyd. we call it "command and control," where they would be moving as unit. yesterday, new york city police commissioner dermot shea tweeted this out. it's a video of a crate of bricks with the caption, "this is what our cops are up against. organized looters strategically placing cachet's of bricks and rocks at locations throughout nyc." but a new york city councilman pushed back into this. "this is in my district. i went to the site. this construction debris was left near a construction site
on avenue x." melissa will correct me, i think you are a new yorker. "could be evidence of a developer breaking the law since phase one hasn't begun, but there is no evidence of organized looting on x last night that i'm aware of." gianno? your reaction? >> gianno: maybe in that specific situation there was a construction site or whatever, but there is absolutely something going on when you see, in multiple cities, bricks being strategically placed in particular areas. this is why it's so important knowing that antifa has been a huge part of the rioting that we've seen, and the looting. this is why they should be designated a terror group. i think back to chicago, where a lot of this looting and writing has happened in majority african-american communities. i think back to the fact that a lot of people have tried to dismiss the rioting and looting and said, "they are just people exposing their pain." no, people who choose to go out
and ride and loot with these nefarious intentions, they should be held to account. they should be put in jail. they should be prosecuted. people are literally creating billions of dollars in damages across the country where people are literally trying to recover from coronavirus. they are trying to recover from the 40 plus million people who have been unemployed. this is so problematic on many levels, i can say a thousand things about this. >> harris: well, and its interest or everybody. i was seeing on instagram today fresh video of black lives matter trying to turn in and tivoed. i'm sure they've been going on night after night, day after day, saying they don't represent blm and that they are actually harming their cause and their messaging. and it is that street in new york, by the way. my team let me know. jessica, i want to come to you on that regard, though. the protests, in some cases, have been co-opted by these bigger motions and bigger agen
agenda. >> jessica: i think it's incredibly damaging to the cause, obviously. i don't want to bucket that all in that it was antifa, which stands, by the way, for antifascist and is fundamentally a disorganized group and not associated with the left, i would say. but the rioting and looting has been painful here in downtown manhattan, a block from me at lower fifth avenue, it was completely ransacked. uptown, as well, near to where melissa lives. what happened in soho, people stealing millions of dollars worth of goods. i saw looters on the street in broad daylight carrying sacks of sneakers, just walking through my neighborhood. not a care in the world about the consequences of that. those people should be prosecuted. >> harris: probably won't kill you like a brick will, though. >> jessica: to the point about the bricks, actually, the white house tweeted out and posted on facebook if video supposedly showing all these anti-for people who had left bricks everywhere, and they had to take it down because of the investigative journalism by the
bbc and vice showing that it was, as that councilman pointed out, left over debris from construction sites or not related to the protests. donald trump wants to make this about antifa. as i said, an organization that isn't even organization. >> harris: all right, i want someone else. pause for a second. emily, would you like to take that? >> emily: just that, to me, given the level of viciousness and violence that we have seen in combination with these riots and looting, i think it would be a mistake at this point to rule out anything prematurely. i think the arguments over which extremist group has hijacked the cause, and who has placed what where, at this point to come to conclusions now to prevent resources from being deployed, to investigate the causes and the orchestrator is behind it, i just think that would be a mistake. at this point, as a citizen who watched my fellow citizens being beaten and shot to death, i do want to know what's behind it
without assumption at this point. as much as we can support a thorough and ongoing investigation into whoever is behind this, i think that bodes well for all of us. >> harris: melissa, i want to come to you on what else we might see from william barr, as we are now right at a point where we were expecting to see them. we know the reporters i be on te dais in late and their seats. one of the things he did was to get the involvement of the doj. the remarks riding from the attorney general, talk about those up charges against the people who were involved in george floyd's death, who caused it, i should say. >> melissa: it's important to have national attention on this, and we haven't been told ahead of time what they are going to talk about here. i'm eager as you'd hear it. i want to add on to emily's point about how important it is have an investigation into all the things that have happened in the aftermath.
my producer was in brooklyn, she was watching the cars in front of her home burn. and they were people walking around with white fliers saying who they were and handing them out to other people. as she stood there holding them, somebody came past her and said, "oh, good, where's the bus picking us up?" obviously -- i have no idea if those folks with the flyers were peaceful protesters or if they had anything to do with the violence, but they were certainly there and they had come from somewhere else. and they would have more information about how they got there, who told them, how it was organized, or who else they saw there. it's really important that, calmly, in the aftermath, we take apart who is peacefully protesting and organizing, and who was waiting with things intentionally to hurt those who came to even protect the peaceful protesters. to keep those protests peaceful. if we can't have peaceful protests in this country, we
can't have democracy. and the people who are causing violence in these scenes are a threat to democracy. >> harris: all right, we see someone making a statement of the microphone now, where we anticipating that the attorney general will be speaking momentarily. we just want to draw our attention. we don't have audio on this yet, but we want to play close, close, close attention now that we have scooted just beyond 12:30 p.m. eastern, which we know this was set to begin. just to revisit, too, if i hadn't mentioned it, who is on the list today. fbi director christopher wray, u.s. marshal director donald w washington, and atf acting director regina lombardo and others. just knowing that list, we might be able to glean the importance of some of the topics that could come up. i agree with melissa, we don't have yet the blotter for all of this. but just your thoughts, gianno, on what is going on right now? we saw a rod rosenstein in the
senate judiciary committee, that hearing continuing, as they try to get to the bottom of the origins of the russia probe. you know, just talking about some of the things that could possibly come up. >> gianno: yeah, any number of things could come up. i saw some reporting recently that attorney general barr was considering unmasking politicians who had been in contact with nt for members, which i think he absolutely should. jessica says this group isn't associated with the left. i happen to disagree. it is very much associated with the left, and i think for anybody who may be supportive of antifa's efforts, these individuals should be called out, too. is it george soros that has helped fund some of the operations? if antifa is declared a domestic terrorism group, would you possibly face some charges because of his association with it? it's any number of things that could absolutely come up with ag barr. but i'm hopeful he will at least have some conversation around
george lloyd and what we may expect to see from the justice department in that matter. >> harris: jessica, let me just finish. we are inside -- hold on. we are inside of a two-minute warning right now, and we are waiting for the attorney general, william barr, to be joined by the fbi director christopher wray and others i was telling you about. we are talking about some of the things that are on the agenda, potentially, for him to talk with the nation. we don't see this every day with william barr stepping up to the lectern, joined by others. the justice department, and the focus. as melissa was pointing out, why we don't know exactly what they would touch on, this is a moment we are focused on. george lloyd, and what happened to him. it wasn't too many days ago that our journey began as a nation, talking about all sorts of things that hurt, including race, including brutality, including the protesting being
co-opted by those who would turn it violent. but we have now seen the others pull into place, and the attorney general for the united states, bill barr. >> thank you for joining us at this remote press conference. over the constitution avenue entrance to this building is a latin inscription that translates, "everything is created by "law & order"." that ancient principal still holds true. our free society depends on the rule of law. the assurance that ordinary citizens can go about their lives without being subject to arbitrary violence or fear. when the rule of law breaks do down, the promise of america does, also. our nation is now confronting two serious challenges to the rule of law.
the first is a long-standing one that was recently crystallized and driven home by the killing of george floyd in minneapolis. the video of the police conduct in this episode, as i said before, is harrowing. when you watch it and imagine that one of your own loved ones was being treated this way, begging for their lives, it is impossible for any normal human being not to be struck to the heart with horror. this matter is being pursued by both the state and the federal government. the state has filed already second-degree murder charges against one of the officers, and aiding and abetting charges against the other three office officers. as we typically do in cases such as this, the department of justice and the fbi is
conducting a parallel and independent investigation into possible violations of federal civil rights laws. the president has directed me to spare no effort. we are coordinating our work with the attorney general of minnesota, and, as a matter of comedy, the department of justice typically lets the state go forward with its proceedings first. this afternoon our united states attorney in minnesota and the fbi special agent in charge of our minneapolis field office, the fbi field office, will attend a memorial service for mr. floyd. today is a day of mourning, and the day is coming soon, i am
confident, when justice will be served. george floyd's death was not the first of its kind, and it exposes concerns that reach far beyond this particular case. while the vast majority of police officers do their job bravely and righteously, it is undeniable that many african-americans lack confidence in our american criminal justice system. this must change. our constitution mandates equal protection of the laws and nothing less is acceptable. as the nation's leading federal law enforcement agency, the department of justice will do its part. i believe that police chiefs and law enforcement officials and leaders around the country are committed to ensuring that racism plays no part in
law enforcement, and that everyone receives equal protection of the laws. in october 2019, the president established the first commission on law enforcement since the 1960s, and i am meeting with them later this month. i have been talking to law enforcement leaders around the country. in the weeks and months ahead, we will be working with community leaders to find constructive solutions so that mr. floyd's death will not have been in vain. we will work hard to bring good out of bad. unfortunately, the aftermath of george floyd's death has produced a second challenge to the rule of law. while many have peacefully expressed their anger and grief, others have hijacked protests to engage in lawlessness. violent rioting, arson, looting
of businesses, and public property. assaults on law enforcement officers and innocent people, and even the murder of a federal agent. such senseless acts of anarchy are not exercises of first amendment rights. they are crimes, designed to terrify fellow citizens and intimidate communities. as i told the governors on monday, we understand the distinction between three different sets of actors here. the large preponderance of those who are protesting our peaceful demonstrators who are exercising their first amendment rights. at some demonstrations, however, there are groups that exploit the opportunity to engage in such crimes as looting. finally, at some demonstrations,
there are extremist agitators who are hijacking the protests to pursue their own separate and violent agenda. we have evidence that antifa and other similar extremist groups, as well as actors of a variety of different political persuasions, have been involved in instigating and participating in the violent activity. and we are also seeing foreign actors playing all sides to exacerbate the violence. the department of justice is working to restore order in the district of columbia and around the nation. here in washington, we are working with the local police, the citizen soldiers of the national guard, and other federal agencies to provide safety and justice. we have deployed all the major law enforcement components of the department on this mission,
including the fbi, the atf, the dea, the bureau of prisons, and the u.s. marshals service. their leaders are with me today and will be talking shortly. i think all of these i thank all these leaders and components for working briefly to protect the district. i am pleased to say, especially over the last two night nights, the demonstrations, while large, have been peaceful. the justice department is also working closely with our state and local partners to address violent riots around the country. our federal law enforcement efforts are focused on the violent instigators. through the fbi, u.s. attorney's offices, component field offices, and state and local enforcement, we are receiving real-time intelligence and we have deployed resources to quell
outbreaks of violence in several places. i urge governors and mayors and other state and local leaders to work closely with the national guard and with us. the federal government has thus far made 51 arrests for federal crimes in connection with the violent rioting. we will continue to investigate, to make arrests, and prosecute where warranted. when i was attorney general in 1992, riots broke out in los angeles following the acquittal by the state of police officers accused of beating rodney king. ultimately, the department of justice, at my direction, filed federal civil rates charge against his officers. as president bush assured the nation at that time, "the
violence will end, justice will be served, hope will return." the same is true today. the rule of law will prevail. thank you. now i would like to introduce my colleague, christopher wray, the director of the fbi. and, i have to say, this is the fbi that i've had the pleasure of working with over the last few days, the fbi that i know and love, that have really stood up here and performed magnificently. not only here in d.c., but around the country and in all their field offices. there enforcement functions, their intelligence functions, are now in full gear. and i am confident that, with the fbi's leadership, we are going to deal effectively with the criminals who were involved in extremist violence.
chris? >> thank you, general, for your leadership. good morning. this is, needless to say, and incredibly challenging time for our country and for all the citizens we serve. i want to begin by expressing my deepest sympathies for george floyd and his family. like most of you, i was appalled and profoundly troubled by the video images of the incident that ended with mr. floyd's tragic death. within hours of his death on maa criminal investigation to determine whether the actions by the former minneapolis police department officers involved violated federal law. we are moving quickly in the investigation, and we are going to follow the facts wherever they may lead in our pursuit of justice. mr. floyd's family, like a lot
of families who have lost loved ones in recent weeks, or suffering right now and trying to find a way forward. in fact, our entire country is trying to find a way forward. that is because this is not just about george floyd. this is about all of those over the years who have been unjustifiably killed or had their rights violated by people entrusted with their protection. when law enforcement fails to fulfill its most basic duty, to protect and serve its citizens, particularly members of a minority community, it not only tarnishes the badge we all wear, but erodes the trust that so many of us in law enforcement have worked so hard to build. when people feel that we haven't lived up to the trust that they place in us, it is understandable that they want to speak out and protest. and the fbi holds sacred to rights of individuals to
peacefully exercise their first amendment freedoms. nonviolent protests are signs of a healthy democracy, not a kneeling one. the fbi's mission is to protect the american people and uphold the constitution. that mission is both dual and simultaneous. it is not contradictory. in engaging with our communities during these protests, we in law enforcement must balance the safety and security of our communities with our citizens' constitutional rights and civil liberties. one need not and must not come at the expense of the other. in recent days, the violence, threat to life, and destruction of property we've seen in some parts of a country jeopardizes the rights and safety of all citizens, including peaceful demonstrators. and it has to stop. we are seeing people who are
exploiting this situation to pursue violent extremist agendas. anarchists, like antifa and other agitators. these individuals have set out to sow discord and upheaval rather than join in the righteous pursuit of equality and justice. by driving us apart, they are undermining the urgent work and constructive engagement of all those who are trying to bring us together. our community and religious leaders, our elected officials, law enforcement, and citizens alike. many have suffered from the violence instigated through these radicals and extremists, including members of our own law enforcement family. officers killed were gravely injured while just doing their jobs, fulfilling their duty to the public by trying to keep everyone safe. to be clear, we are not in any way trying to discourage peaceful protesters. to those citizens who are out there making your voices heard,
through peaceful, lawful protests, let me say this -- we in law enforcement here you. we have to make sure our policing and our investigations are conducted with the professionalism and commitment to equal justice that you all deserve. but we are also committed to identifying, investigating, and stopping individuals who are inciting violence and engaging in criminal activity. so, at the fbi, we are focusing our efforts on supporting our law enforcement partners with maintaining public safety in communities we are all sworn to protect. we are making sure that we are tightly latched up with our state, local, and federal law enforcement partners across the country by standing up 24-hour command posts in all of our 56 field offices. we have directed our 200 joint terrorism task forces around the country to assist law enforcement with
apprehending and charging violent agitators who are hijacking peaceful protests. on a national level, we are soliciting tips, leads, and video evidence of criminal activities through our national threat operations center. and like the attorney general, i've been speaking -- >> harris: fbi director christopher wray with comments on the george floyd arrest and protests, rooting out those people who have turned to some of the peace of protesting violent. previous to that we heard from attorney general bill barr, and the breaking news from that -- i live tweeted it out, as well -- we have evidence that antifa and other extremist groups have instigated violent activity. that, from the highest person in the land, in our land, in law enforcement. our attorney general. emily, i come to you on this. this is not guessing anymore whether we might have evidence. the ag just said so. and now we'll see what happens
with that evidence. >> emily: absolutely. and the fact that he also identified other extremist groups. we look for to the identification and develop much of what that evidence looks like and what accountability will be pursued. i also note, and not just have it, but he referenced in the wake of the 1992 los angeles riots the federal civil rights investigation into that department. there is a pattern of practice investigation that the doj has conducted with the departments all over the country. as we move forward with our ongoing conversation and the concept of what justice means and what it will look like, i think it should also be reflected in this reform that requires investment and time, and acknowledgment of violence and pain and respect on all sides. >> harris: hmm. you know, gianno, this seems like just a significant moment, just knowing that the u.s. marshals, the attorney general and fbi, leadership was gathered. but now that we know there is this evidence that they have
been looking at finding out who is really causing the violence among the peaceful protesters, that seems significant in its own right. >> gianno: it did, and it was a remarkable press conference by ag barr and christopher wray. i think they struck the right balance. i think they really demonstrated that they have been hearing the concerns. more importantly, they want to take action. it's important to note that ag barr was the attorney general during the rodney king situation, as he mentioned. but what came out of that, after the officers were leapt off, where consent decrees. those consent decrees with the federal moderator was put in place with the los angeles police department. they had to pay for the federal monitor, and they had to enforce the practice and policies that should have been taken forth when it came to the police. now, the question is, what more will be see? will be see more consent decrees? which is something jeff sessions pulled back on. we see more training when it
comes officers? those are questions i think a lot of people will be asking, and i'm hoping to see some answers fairly soon. >> harris: you are right, ag barr reminding us he's been a tough road before. he said, "in my direction, federal charges were filed against the officers in the rodney king beating." and he brought forth that history to this moment. they are different moments, we know that. but the acknowledgment he has prepared to act and to base that on, what he's done in the history, as you point out, is very important. we are going to scoot. we'll be back with more "outnumbered" in a moment. a big hour. save $2000 a year -- ou ca with one call to newday usa. our team is standing by right now to take your call. and from start to finish, you can do it all without ever leaving the house. with our va streamline refi, there's no income verification. no appraisal. and no out of pocket costs. one call can save you $2000 a year.
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for people with heart failure taking entresto, it may lead to a world of possibilities. entresto helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren, or if you've had angioedema with an ace or arb. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto. >> melissa: okay, we heard from attorney general barr here in the past hour, saying that within hours of george floyd's death that the fbi did open an investigation and that they are demanding accountability in terms of civil rights violations, and also saying they are investigating the three groups they believe are involved
in the protesting. they are identifying three groups. the peaceful protesters, but than they are investigating the extremist violence groups that may be behind some of the destruction. thank you for joining us this hour. we'll be back here at noon eastern tomorrow. now, here's harris. >> harris: and it is time to remember george floyd, as two memorial services back-to-back are now getting underway. his death at the hands of police officers has sparked outrage around the globe. this is "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. at this moment, thousands of people are gathering at a memorial in brooklyn, new york to remember george floyd. we expect members of his families and others to be there. his brother, terence, among them. in less than an hour, a service will begin in minneapolis, the place where he died. meanwhile, it was another night of mosy
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