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some time and spread from there. dan springer on the zone that has a lot of cities and no less than the president of the united states are watching one closely. >> i think a lot of people around the country think it's going to be utter chaos but the reality is that a lot of people in seattle including the mayor, is taking a laws a fair attitude. her first news conference since this broke monday and they vacated the precinct, she was asked by cnn how it was going to end, when it's going to end and she said we don't know. it could be the summer of love. this is going to go on for a while. clearly she's not taking this as seriously as some of her residence. she compared this barricaded autonomous zone as a gay pride festival and set her main concern about getting police officers back in the area is she doesn't want to create a flash point for violence. her police chief seems to have a very different opinion.

we got the inside look at the precinct yesterday. wanted to look at the damage but really nothing major. she said it was not her decision to cut and run. she almost apologized her officers for what this is doing to morale. as far as the public, she said response times to major crimes has more than tripled since the east precinct was vacated. >> leaving the precinct was not my decision. we fought for days to protect it. i asked you to stand on the outlying day in and day out, digby pelted with projectiles, to be screamed at, threatened, and in some cases heard. then to have a change of course nearly two weeks in, it seems like an insult to you and our community. >> we did notice more protester security at the barricade this morning as the occupiers continue to say that they are here until their demands are met. among those demands, abolish the

police department and the court system. some residents were stunned at what happened in their city. >> of the police have abandoned this neighborhood. i guarantee you if this was a black neighborhood, they wouldn't abandon it. >> we have been talking to some business leaders, neil, and frankly they are too afraid to talk to us on camera because they are upset about with happening here. they've been boarded up now for this whole entire protest. before that it was covid that check them down for three months. they don't want to say anything for fear of more damage. >> neil: for those who live and work in that area, that radius, six blocks or whatever it is, have they had any trouble getting in and out? >> no, i mean traffic is coming along. i see some kids on bikes. seems to be that they are loosening up the perimeter. at the barricade. people are kind of walking in.

i suspect will this morning, older people taking pictures. almost looks like an attraction know. people want to see. this was earlier in the day and things change at night. we had a lot more people in there in the mood changed as well. >> neil: be safe, my friend. dan springer in seattle continuing to vote at. no scientist is going to end anytime soon. there's been no violence to speak of but there's a concern that if it festers much longer it could be an issue. it would be a concern of randy sutton, former las vegas police lieutenant who was kind enough to join us. looking what you see going on, they don't defend the police precinct. not quite sure whether it was the mayor's call to say abandon the place, don't defend the place. the bottom line is there is no precinct and i'm wondering the also could mean there are no police in that immediate area.

so where does this go, do you think? >> this only has an unhappy ending. the mayor is delusional. listening to her comments, calling the people that have basically taken over those six blocks, she calls them patriots. basically downplays their role here in basically occupying six blocks of her city. i can tell you there is absolutely not one shadow of a doubt that the order to surrender that precinct came from the mirror. she doesn't even have the guts to stand up and say yeah, i order that but there is doubt the seattle police chief, carmen best, set as much without coming out and saying it was her.

this might sound a little radical but carmen best is the chief of police. the police farm is a paramilitary -- it's time for the chief to do what her duty is and that is to order her officers to take back that six blocks. if the mayor physically intervenes, that mayor needs to be handcuffed and taken away and charged with intimidating a police officer or interfere with a police officer. >> neil: the mayor presumably can fire the police chief? carmen best said she overrode in order not to use your yes the other night and one of the merchants because it was getting violent and the mayor specifically said not to do it. she did. she didn't make a big deal about it and get in your face but she

did. now you're saying she could move on her own in the effort of protecting the local citizenry. the local citizenry do not seem to be in danger. her job, the police chief's job, it seems very much on the line if she goes too far with the mayor. >> very much so. it is up problem police chief's face. the answer to politicians and many of those politicians are, let's say, limited leaders. i'm going to say it in that way and they don't have the guts to stand up and do the right thing. this is an on the line kind of moment. this is where your leadership and your courage come in and is in a time to up for something that you know is right? this is really that moment. all eyes are on seattle.

all law enforcement either on seattle and the police chief is one who was actually having to have the responsibility to make these changes. i've got to tell you there's officers being injured all over. seattle is a textbook example. that's why we've send update go find me account to help injured officers throughout the -- a gofundme account to help injured officers. >> neil: we are going to be following it closely. others could be encouraged to spread this. we watch our brother closely. thank you very much people are planning t trips to seattle. seattle has always been dealing with homeless related problems. this is taking it to a new focus in these protests which by and large would be very, very peacefully.

this is at least a turnoff for the business world there and getting back to normal there. charles payne on that impact. charles, i cannot imagine, forget about the impact on the city but those in those area, it's drawing things down to a halt, right? >> it absolutely is. this is already the epicenter, along with los angeles, with homelessness. the city's way of dealing with it was to introduce what they call hostile architecture, like a city bench with a whole bunch of lines in the middle like bars, you couldn't take a nap on it. instead of dealing with these issues, they tried to shake down the large corporations there. to be quite frank with you, it's been such terrible response to citywide crises one after another. i'm not surprised they are botching it big time and they are making things a lot worse

because over the long term, you think about what these protesters are demanding, without a tax base, you can't even provide the basic services, let alone some of the grievances being expressed there. >> neil: yeah, the gentrification pushing the seattle area. leaving aside how some are little over-the-top, i'm wondering the more time that goes on that the police did not intervene, play it out for me. even in the middle of the george floyd and protests. it was something that hearken back to you growing up in harlem and where the police were looked upon suspiciously but you missed them when they weren't around, right? >> sure, sure. i grew up in harlem in the '70s and it was the most violent neighborhood perhaps in

america, one of the poorest. we were always de facto at war with the police, there's no doubt about that. and yet we were always upset when it took them too long to get there. so it's an odd relationship and i can tell you on many occasions i was happy to see them. there were many times when i was in danger physically, seminal in my family was in danger, someone in my neighborhood was in danger. it was almost a daily occurrence to be quite frankly but on more than one occasion they came around the corner and i was relieved, relieved for my life and my families life and for a neighbor's life. this idea of defunding the police, taking away their pensions, it's surreal, crazy world. these folks yesterday had to call the fire department which is all part of the same apparatus. for goats and grievances. they want to talk about it. before you start talking about free college, how about the demanding stronger school

systems. somethings are far-fetched but i think the genesis of them if you go to the roots of them, some could be legit and talked about, discussed, movie get some real progress. >> neil: you hope cooler heads prevail. thank you very much. charles payne with a unique perspective on this. we're going to continue following it. the president is running out of patience with the weights being handled because he says it's sort of like someone has to do something soon. he is bowing he'll do something and soon. d? i should get a quote. do it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ because when you want to create an entirely new feeling, the difference between excellence and mastery is all the difference in the world. the lexus es. a product of mastery.

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with mayor de blasio he said i'm going to displace them. i don't know how that would work. is that what you mean in seattle? >> we are not going to let seattle be occupied by anarchists. >> neil: how can the president act on seattle? would that do? what with the federal roll be? judge andrew napolitano. >> there is a limited federal roll, neil. i understand the president's frustration, the picture that was painted by our colleague, dan, and the analysis by our colleague charles is devastating if you live or work in that neighborhood and that sounds like there's a serious breakdown in governmental authority. however, if a president must be talking, didn't really answer harris faulkner's question directly but it must be talking about sending in troops. he has no other people to send in. either troops or dhs, department

of homeland security, which is a federal police department 60,000 strong. he does have the legal authority to do that unless requested by the legislature of the state of washington work by the governor if the legislature is unable to meet. that's right out of the constitution. even then he can only send in federal apparatus, whether it's military or dhs. when there is a state of rebellion or insurrection. if you look at those pictures, looks like there's a rebellion. the supreme court has defined rebellion or insurrection as meaning "a state of affairs man-made or natural," like katrina, "where the courts can't sit because theoretically no matter how bad the violence is, people can get arrested and being brought before courts. or the governor could get an order for these people to vacate the neighborhoods from a federal judge and if they don't come within the governor can use force to enforce that court

order. so we are nowhere near the threshold that the constitution and federal statutes and supreme court opinions require for the president to send his men and women in there. >> neil: the governor and the mayor are allowing this to happen. they are not resisting it, and the police chief, carmen best, seems very frustrated. so if there was an attempt, if this escalated, judge, if the police chief, is she in her right to defy her mary and her governor and say no, this is crazy. >> this short answer is yes. the lieutenant that you just interviewed indicated that the police chief has a duty of loyalty to her superior, who is the mayor but the police chief

also has a duty of loyalty to the constitution. she may lose her job, but that's the chance she takes by saving life and liberty and property. i would encourage the police chief to do the right thing. she'll probably end up keeping her job, but she needs to do the right thing before innocent life is lost or property or liberty are destroyed. this is the police chief, this is not the president. >> neil: but the police chief. >> the police chief can defy the mayor. she has the authority to do so. >> neil: and she has. with the teargas. >> that's a close call. she can define the mayor's orders in order to save innocent life, whether that means using teargas or sending in police in

battle gear in order to get these people out of a neighborhood where they are terrifying the residents in the business owners. she can do that. i don't know what will befall her legally or politically. but she will sleep at night because she will have a clear conscience knowing that she did the right thing for life, liberty, and property. >> neil: i don't know legally where that would go. politically i think i have an idea. george, thank you very much. a quick peek it the corner of wall and broad. it was a volatile day. we made up some ground lost yesterday but not nearly enough. the fact of the matter is, there is still concern about the spike in coronavirus cases but when all is said and done even though it was a down week in the first down week in a month, all i can tell you is a could've been a lot worse. more after this. me too.

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you might be too young to remember that movie but i thought in the theaters. i still watch it, if you can believe it. it's funny, we're announcing the same movie, to stay on that theme nowadays in june as we were in march. think about the news that come out this week on covid and the social unrest. it would have slammed the market and nowadays the economy is improving. the market is maturing. we are may be getting past some of the shock on the emotion that the market was feeling some weeks ago. that's why you're seeing such a great rebound today apple was a disastrous day yesterday. >> neil: how do you think the whole reopening goes? i've told people, look at july. july is the month you have disney, universal parks opening and fully opening in florida, certainly in california. you have most businesses almost completely open and by that

month. so i'm wondering how that all go lose. >> i believe it goes well from an economic standpoint, definitely from a market standpoint because its positive news. it's not the reverse of like what we are seeing once go. the one key is how does the opening go with respect to is it really embraced? you can build things but will people come? will people flock to those events, as you mention. the reality remains it is wait-and-see. i do believe that the market is more hopeful than it has been in the past. if you look at some of the stocks, the travel industry, banking, homebuilders, these areas that started to come back strong. the catch-up trade that catches up to the s&p 500 at some of those areas i mentioned is on and it's been on for the last several weeks. >> neil: how do you feel about stimulus? do we need it?

there is a debate you don't need as much but even the white house is talking about something. are the markets hanging on the outcome are you hanging on that? >> we all need stimulus in one way or another, don't we, neil? what's funny, it seems like the market is comforted by that in the sense that if the economy flows and the market pulls back, the fed and treasury are waiting in the wings to pump more money in that something i believe gets stocks confidence and keeps interest rates low. >> neil: scott, always a pleasure, my friend. scott martin, good sense of humor and a good stock market guy as well. let you know in about a couple things were following. protests happening around the country. they are getting one in new york. we will keep an eye on it for you. we're also keeping an my on the latest moves on the part of the

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>> we expect to have a full arena. there will be temperature checks and other protocols, whatever is necessary at that time given where we are with covid-19. we here in jacksonville are excited about seeing the president's renomination and about demonstrating to the country that we are back to work and open for business in a safe, responsible way. >> neil: i don't think we've ever seen something like this. to republican conventions. legal, contractual obligations in north carolina. then the big one with the president accepting the nomination and his speech in jacksonville, florida. the president claimed that the governor of north carolina was doing little to make assurances that everyone could attend. so that's where we stand. karl rove on the significance of this. what do you think? >> first of all i would hate to be the person in charge of

pulling off wednesday and thursday in jacksonville. they have spent a year and a half or two, very tough work to pull together the charlotte convention and now we are in the middle of june in the middle of august, the third week of august, their -- they are going to do the last day and a half in jacksonville and that's going to be a big undertaking. i hope the governor of north carolina, a democrat, is not simply playing politics but i think he should have given way to the republican national committee and arrived at a mutual understanding of what would be put in place for the convention that would've been acceptable to the rnc. >> neil: i'm just wondering if you're a north carolinian voter, are you ticked off? >> i don't know. i think it depends. i think if you're a democrat it's good riddance. if you're republican, you're irritated at the governor. my senses for ticket splitters,

independent voters, swing voters, it's not going to be a dispositive issue. it's going to cause a lot -- cause a lot of money -- cost a lot of money for charlotte. rather than the hoopla and the people and the tens of thousands of precedent delegates and alternates, it's going to be a smaller crowd and the biggest two days of the convention, certainly the biggest will be held in jacksonville, probably wednesday and thursday both. that's the nomination and the vote on wednesday and then the acceptance speech on thursday. >> neil: you know you're right, big crowds. especially when the president arrives with the vice president. they will be crammed in. one of the stipulations and the demands for an event like this, there's always the specter of the coronavirus. we are still waiting to hear cases that might've been triggered by all the protests over the past couple weeks since

the death of george floyd. i'm wondering here, i think attendees have to sign a waiver that they will not sue anybody if god fo forbid they do do contract the virus. >> the fewer lawsuits the bett better. not going to be down. they are going to have temperature checks. they're no going to encourage mk use. the president is not going to do it from the podium but we have gotten into this weird thing, it is like val demings, the congressman from orlando, the democrat under consideration is joe biden's running mate, talked about how she joined a washington, d.c., protest because it was healing and hopeful and now she's attacking the president's campaign for having a rally in tulsa by saying it's irresponsible and selfish. so she's there with tens of thousands of people protesting the president, and that's

healing and hope but the president, having a rally, that's irresponsible and selfish? we've seen it across the democratic spectrum. bernie sanders, i congratulate the protesters. now the president's rallies are a threat to the health and well-being not simply of the people in the arena but in the country. we had mira cuomo who said no right to jeopardize the health of my children. and then he said i stand with the protesters. we had mayor de blasio shutting down orthodox jewish funerals are now saying i stand with the protesters. it's beyond me. i'm here in austin, texas. our city council and mayor are ready to extend the shelter in place rules but they have no problem at all with hundreds of people right over my shoulder spray painting the capital of texas and holding nightly rallies. they have no problem with that but that we are all going to have to shelter in place. there is an odd dynamic going on here in america by a lot of people on the left saying one thing and doing another.

>> neil: the governor of new jersey attended one of the protests. cautioning businesses to be careful about trying to open up and highlighting distancing provisions. it is what it is. karl rove, thank you. in the meat died meantime, military leaders past and present. t tomorrow he's at west point. to eligible members so they can pay for things like groceries before they worry about their insurance or credit card bills. discover all the ways we're helping members today.

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>> neil: the president will be attending graduation at west point tomorrow. he's had some interesting romans or let's say play disagreements with some military leaders including the chairman of the joint chiefs, mark milley, regrets now his going to lafayette square with the president and what appeared to be more of a political than

urgent mission. he didn't like the way looked. let it be known the president talking to harris faulkner. it comes at the same time the president has had differences with presidents past, defense officials, jim mattis started this a couple weeks ago questioning whether the president's language was divisive. former chief of staff, former general kelly who disputes the care is asian characterization that mattis was fired i am wondering, looking at this, how big of a deal is it for the president that there might be a dustup with military officials who do not seem to recoil from

speaking out. >> secretary esper, general milley are still on the job. obviously they consulted with the president and the president continues to keep them in the position. the gap between them is not as great as some would pretend. you talked about west point. about 50 years ago i raised my right hand at west point and i swore to abide by the constitution and by the orders provided by the president and those that he appoints. if any general today or admiral decides that they can't put up with what this president is saying or doing, they can resign. for the good of the country, they probably should. we saw something like this during the iraq war to a certain degree and we have seen it before. yes, these generals are well trained. they have great knowledge. but we also have a constitution and the bill of rights. they can become civilians and speak out more.

even general mattis, you know, i think it really comes down to who's ox are you goring today. president trump is tough. some argue he's divisive. i would argue president obama before him was incredibly divisive especially against people like me you were pro-life. of all his radical agenda. so we need to recognize that the will of the peoples to elect a president. that president runs on command or u.s. military and sometimes we don't like what you are she would do. that's just away the constitution is constructed. >> neil: when the president has said something semesters of debate that might not be necessary. a canadian protesters who guards pushed, might've been a set up.

jim mattis was speaking it seemed as a citizen concerned about how it's not helping matters any. when you hear the saying from the joint chiefs of staff who seems to be speaking in his role not judging the president going to lafayette square but a top military official like him being there with him, that it's somehow sending a condoning signal for what some of called just a photo op. what do you think? >> any time the presidents around, just like when you're talking in your prayer segment, there's a lot of media. general milley knows when he goes into the oval office or anywhere where the president is there's going to be cameras around. he had to have known when he was going over that the president, who is unpredictable in some cases, might have done something like this. nobody told general milley, to the best of my knowledge, that he had to follow the president over to st. john's church.

he could have just said, you know, let me hold back. let me step back. he probably had some sense. if he didn't, then i would hold that against the press corps', certainly the white house, who should have advised him to the contrary. the president is in a tough place here. he has faced opposition from a democratic party who has impeached him, who are constantly badgering going after him. i can understand. the man is defensive, and he should be, given one event of faith over the last few years. >> neil: bob mcginnis. thank you very much. good seeing you again. be well. be safe. when we come back the latest on the covid-19 push and the increased cases and what could be a game changer for curing this thing, after this. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner,

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resistances and it create a whole new scourge. people got together and started to get about drug cocktails and that's what responsible for controlling aids and now a lot of other viruses. we and others have discovered a whole new class of drugs against viruses called antibodies. i'm sure but he knows about antibodies. there's things that your body makes in response to vaccines that protect you. a lot of people have been going forward with single antibodies and they are trying to move them. see if they will work. we have pioneered this approach with ebola. what we pioneered with ebola was a cocktail of several antibodies thinking the same thing that might happen with aids or hepatitis c with traditional antiviral drugs could have been here with antibodies as well.

we have insisted internally to only go forward with cocktails. we did it with ebola and it was a very effective. that was a situation where there wasn't a huge epidemic so there wasn't room for escape. we recently demonstrated and high-profile papers that will be published in the next couple days that cocktails are much more effective her containing particular the possibility of escape than individual antibodies. we announced, this rarely happens in science, you publish seminal, fundamental papers and usually wait years to try to make it in reality, we announced that on the same day we announced the major scientific story was coming out for coronavirus cocktails might be important, we put the first cocktail into human patience this week. so this is really near term. there's a real chance it can make a difference. there's a lot of hope because it

worked for ebola. the same people in our labs who put together this possible new treatment for coronavirus needed very successfully for ebola, and so we are very excited. this something that could really change the impact of this pandemic. >> neil: when would this be? when would it be out there so people could take advantage of it? >> the great news is we've been working with so many collaborators. we have to say that in addition to the incredible work throughout the entire bio industry, everybody coming together to try to address the pandemic, here at regeneron, we are proud of our people. while the rest of the world has been on lock down and shutting down, they've been upping their game, working 24/7, killing themselves to try to bring it forward in record time. we are also collaborating with the fda and they also recognized the incredible need.

they work with the design, an innovative trial process. usually you have to do a phase one study and you wait a long time, discuss it in a year or two goes by and then you go to phase three. we are doing a seamless adaptive phase one, two, three study. in a couple weeks hopefully we can be done with the so-called phase one safety portion. the next phase two portion within a month or two, we could get the data whether this might be working or not. by the end of the summer we can have enough data to allow broader utilization we've devoted our manufacturing capacity to the possibility that this work so we are manufacturing so if it works by the end of the summer we can have hundreds of thousands of doses available to be out there to try to help patience. >> neil: doctor, that sounds stunning and amazing and very, very hopeful. i wish you well with this and i am sure many people do. the regeneron cofounder.

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>> travel is already picking up, bookings are picking up. airports are all the focus of concern, airport management and business operations. laguardia i think terminal b is part of a $5 billion reopening. what do people have to get used to it now and changes that are to come? many of them have not been anywhere near airports, in weeks and months ahead they will be. >> thanks for having me on board, there is no doubt this current backdrop with covert is creating anxiousness for travelers and so what we do is

we need to instill confidence in the travelers. we are doing that through projects like laguardia terminal b and some of the specifics we are implementing include the wearing a face mask in the building and enhanced cleaning, the installation of plexiglass shields in and around checking areas, gate areas, and commercial retail areas. hand and towel sanitizer stations, also restrooms that are as touchless as possible and using mobile and handheld devices to diminish the interaction from a touch standpoint for things like ordering food, and delivery of food and also check in at kiosks, a lot of on-site communication reminding passengers and employees how to stop the spread of cov. and to really decrease a level of anxiousness for travelers as

the market picks back up, we also have things that we are setting overtime like cleaning and using cameras for temperature check in, those are just a couple of the things we are doing and looking at in the near term. >> should people get to the airport earlier than they used to. >> i think they should plan around the same time they used to, the activity levels are lower but we are doing everything to keep our facility safe and facilitate the pastor experience in these challenging times. we want the traveler to feel confident that they are safe and healthy in transit, we are doing everything we can to make that as easy as possible. >> that's a massive project, thank you very much. we'll be pursuing this a lot more tomorrow, but with

senator ted scott of south carolina the changes republicans have to address changes in this country. see you then >> hello everyone, i am dana perino along with juan williams, greg gutfeld, jesse watters, it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the fiv five." president trump telling seattle leaders to shut down the police free zone, he will. if the president calling out democratic politicians after hundreds of protesters took over a section of the city and after police abandon a precinct. >> we are not going to let seattle be occupied by anarchists and i'm not