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call now and get your free infokit >> melissa: fox news alert, protests and violence yet again last night in portland, oregon, as demonstrations stretch into their 50th street night. more than seven weeks now. officers using tear gas, smoke,
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and impact munitions to try and break up protesters targeting federal buildings. there are reports of multiple arrests, so it is not clear whether portland police or federal officers made those arrests. all of this, just hours after acting homeland secretary, chad wolf, visited portland to meet with federal law enforcement there. wolf today pointing the finger at state and local leaders. >> i was in portland yesterday, wanted to take a first-hand look and understand what was going on. what i saw there was a court house that's been under siege, repeatedly conceded, doors broken, wood is broken. local and state leadership are fostering an environment where it's difficult for law enforcement to do their job. they are not coming out, in my view, in my opinion, condemning the violent activity there in portland. >> melissa: but portland's democratic mayor, ted wheeler, saying he does not want dhs officers in the city, and
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tweeting they haven't invited him to meet with them and that he would decline if they did. this is "outnumbered" and i'm melissa francis. here today is harris faulkner. from fox nation and a fox news contributor, rachel campos-duffy. fox news contributor, jessica tarlov. joining us today, host of "reality check" on fox nation and sirius xm patriot host, david webb. david, i will start with you. it seems like portland is out of control. they do not want outside help. i think they are making that pretty clear. how did they regain control? >> david: they are also being -- melissa, excuse me -- incredibly childish. for ted wheeler to say that, even if asked for a meeting, that he would meet with them anyway, what exactly does that accomplish? i have talked to chad wolf numerous times, he is a fair and straightforward man. he understands the job and what
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he needs to do. portland, 50 straight nights of anarchy grade what about the residents of that city? it's not just about federal buildings in federal property. buildings and property can be replaced, but businesses, livelihoods, and lives cannot be done as easily. there are people there that are moving out. i talked to residents of portland, people on my show, on and off air. they are leaving the city. they can't exist there. what happens when they leave? will be see another detroit, which lost, what, over 25% of its population in one shot? will he see a blighted american city under ted wheeler? >> melissa: harris, you have a massive town hall coming up on sunday night, which is talking about, i believe, in large part, this very issue. how do you regain control in these places where things have spiraled out of control and where there is no agreement on a
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solution? and there isn't a lot of federal and local officials that necessarily even want to work together? >> harris: you know, melissa, one of the things we are going to tackle -- and the death lineup is really quite special in terms of how many voices we can get at the table, the proverbial table. we are going to tackle where it all broke apart. george floyd died may 25th, and we all seem to agree as a nation, if you just talk to anybody in your life, if you look at the fine focus group of social media, as it has been called, those 8 minutes and 46 seconds united us, because we knew it was wrong and it was murder and it was torture. we knew all of that. with knowing all of that, it seemed like we were going to press together at one point, all in unison. not that we see everything the same way, but that we look out together in the same direction and know we can get this done, we can make the nation a more equal place for everybody. we can deal with those people
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and police departments that shouldn't be there, that never should have been there in the first place. but than appreciate the ones who make the sacrifices to protect all of us. that we can do all of that. and it's not too pollyannaish. it was all possible. i still believe it is, but what broke us apart after may 25th? what has some people in the streets not just rallying for something, but fighting against each other? and race now being used as something that only certain people can feel certain ways about. for instance, if there is black on black crime, we don't see blm, the organization come out on the streets of chicago and atlanta where children of color are being killed. we don't see that in those communities, people calling it for what it is. you only speak up when it's a black versus white criminal situation.
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to get to those few moments after george's death, and say, "what needs to happen for us to go forward?" i think we can get there but it's going to be raw, and it is every day on the show, as well. >> melissa: jessica, 50 nights of chaos and anarchy in portland. how does that city put things back together? >> jessica: you might be using everything at his disposal, the mayor, to dispel the situation. in seattle the mayor had to back down from her original position in the "summer of love" to make sure c.h.o.p. didn't become a place where multiple people continue to be killed. i will say though they are men and women walking around in unmarked uniforms getting out of
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unmarked cars that are rounding up protesters. we don't know where they are coming from, we believe they are from the department of homeland security, but that is completely unacceptable and it's something the federal government should never have authorized. especially against the wishes of officers in portland. i think we obviously need to work together better on federal, state, and local level, to make sure it doesn't continue. 50 nights is way too many. what are those people doing walking around in unmarked uniforms picking up protesters? >> melissa: the line between protester and someone who has been behaving violently has been blurred quite a bit. >> jessica: they need to delineate which they are. we need to know who they are. >> melissa: okay, well, we don't know what those people were doing who we are calling nonviolent protesters. unless you are there with your own eyes and you see the video. even with the video, you don't know what happened before it started. we just don't know. this is what acting dhs deputy
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secretary ken cuccinelli had to say about the situation. let's listen. rachel, i will get your insight on the other side. >> we can go in when they request help, but there's also the question, you see in portland there is a federal courthouse, the federal government is responsible for protecting that facility in the area around it. there are other facilities there, as well. they become a focal point of a tax for the violent mobs that the local government doesn't want to seek to control. >> melissa: rachel, your thoughts? >> rachel: well, interestingly, i agree with jessica. the mayor of portland says, "i don't want to hear." in fact, he blames the violence on the feds. you know what i say? the citizens of portland have voted for these radical politicians, let them live with it. if they want to rise up and challenge their local officials to accept the help of the feds, which they clearly need, then good.
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but it's time for people in portland to decide and do some soul-searching of their own to decide what they want for their community. i'll tell you, that community is 6% black. the black leaders in the community are saying, "hey, these protests are actually distracting from the message of racial justice," that harris so well spoke about, at the start of the george floyd incident. they are saying stop. in fact, if you look at the images on the television, you see white, antifa, anarchist protesters fighting a remarkably diverse, racially diverse police force in portland and the feds. it's clear to me that we are in a marxist movement. the feds know that there are marxist blm members there and antifa members and that this is about something else, it's about
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a revolution. it's not about racial justice. >> melissa: jessica, do you want to respond to that? >> jessica: yeah, thank you for the opportunity. since rachel thought she was in agreement, but as she continued to talk it's very clear that we are not. [laughs] there is no evidence that this is about marxism, people who have been going after blm and antifa have been using that as an argument because there were some marxist roots of the black lives matter movement in there, but there is no evidence of that, rachel. the country is actually on the side of the people who are concerned about racial justice and want to make sure that we don't have any more police killings, as harris was talking about and we will continue to talk about. in her special and sunny evening. i think saying something like that is simply unwarranted. to make this
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about -- >> jessica: i don't think what you said there is fair whatsoever. >> david: can i jump in here for second? >> melissa: hang on, no, we have breaking news. go ahead. >> harris: i want to get to this fox news alert, supreme court justice ginsburg has been undergoing chemotherapy to treat a recurrence of cancer, and now she has released a statement which reads, "on may 19th i began a course of chemo to treat a recurrence of cancer. a periodic skin in february followed by a biopsy revealed lesions on my liver. my recent hospitalizations to remove gallstones and treat an infection were unrelated to this recurrence of cancer. immunotherapy proved unsuccessful. the chemo course, however, is yielding positive results. satisfied that my treatment course is now clear, i am providing this information. my most recent scan on july 7th
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indicated significant reduction of the liver lesions and no new disease. i am tolerating chemotherapy well and am encouraged by the success of my current treatment. i will continue biweekly chemo to keep my cancer at bay." she goes on to write, "i have often said i would remain a member of the court as long as i can do the job full steam. i remain fully capable and able of doing that." rutruth bader ginsburg talking about her most recent hospitalization wanting to address the very many of them, more than a couple, over the last few years, saying that the chemo she is receiving now, she is responding well to, and that she has recovered to the point, since her most recent hospitalization, that she can remain fully engaged on her job. that breaking news this hour and more "outnumbered" next. because heart and kidney disease
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>> harris: the u.s. has confirmed more than 77,000 new coronavirus cases occurred yesterday. that is a single day record. florida, texas, south carolina, also reporting a record number of covid-19 deaths. this is presumptive democratic presidential nominee joe biden is again criticizing president trump's covid-19 response. biden treated, "president obama and i left a playbook for president trump on how to fight pandemics. he flat out ignored it, and we are all paying the price every day." richard grenell fired back tweeting, "you knew how to stop a virus that started in china and didn't yell up from the basement? wow." david webb, your reaction? >> david: pathetic by
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joe biden. richard grenell is right. you are telling me you left a playbook for something that didn't exist. use your common sense, america, that's a phrase often here on my radio show. it's a foolish statement. i've got to get a few seconds to respond to something jessica just said. on this couch, among all of us, i am the only one -- actually, before 2014, that's been the black lives matter riots, protests, the good people, the bad people. yes, the marxists, the anarchists, the gunshots, the bullets, the tear gas. for jessica to paint this as something she read the mission statement of, i have been incited, jessica, for years. it is not as clean and nice as you paint it. >> harris: all right, you called her name, so -- that's not where we wanted to go, but jessica, i want to give you a chance to rebut. >> jessica: it was not my intention to make this all clean
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and tidy, it obviously isn't. having race riots in our nation is not an easy thing, and it's going to get incredibly messy. my objection was to rachel saying, "oh, there are a bunch of socialist leftis marxists, af they are not making a claim about how black and brown people are -- >> rachel: i never said -- >> david: as a black and brown person, i think i'm qualified to speak on this, jessica. let's go down that route. >> harris: i want to give rachel -- >> jessica: david, i'll call you later. >> harris: rachel whale quickly and we will move on to politics. that's where we were. >> rachel: i just want to say that i read the mission statement, it sounds very marxist to me. you can tell me what i'm reading is not really what i'm reading, but i don't believe that for a second. the people i see in portland and seattle in particular seem like anarchists, antifa, and it looks
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very organized. not the peaceful protesters that i think were in the initial part of the george floyd protests. this is a movement -- blm has hijacked a racial justice movement to that i think could have brought this country together, because we all saw that video of george floyd. we knew that was wrong. this is going in a different direction. >> harris: all right, melissa, as a cohost of the show, shall we get back to politics? >> melissa: absolutely. >> harris: shall we do it, you and me? you want to do it? let's go for it. >> melissa: biden versus trump on this, and joe biden is saying that he would've handled the situation better. i think that the american public at this point is frustrated and frightened. that we have seen this virus spiral out of control. i myself in the last hour received a note from
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new york city public schools saying my public school child will be going to school in the fall a maximum of two days per week. i have my own plan for how i can support them and supplement that. i have that luxury, i have means. i am devastated for poor and low income children who are only going to receive two days per week of live instruction in class, and i think that we are going to see the repercussions of this, those who are pushing to keep things closed are resigning these low income children to a low income future. that said, when you look at the reopening that happened in florida and texas and arizona, it seems to be very dumb not going very well at first. that has not turned out to be the case. now we are looking at real danger and real hot spots. so, i don't think this has been well-managed by anyone so far, and i do think that the
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president will be judged by that going forward. joe biden is saying, "i couldn't have done it better." anybody can sit on the sidelines and say they could have done it buddy. i don't know who could have done it better, because he been sitting here old-time in the facts facts have changed over and over again. it is very tough. >> harris: those are some excellent points about where we are right now, which is why, jessica, it is so toxic to mix politics and with this, but we are 109 days away from a presidential election. i guess that's what we do, we mix it all together like a batch of stew. your topline thoughts? i want to give the democratic perspective on it. >> jessica: yeah, thank you so much. it does inevitably turn to politics, because that is how we put people in positions of power to help us make important decisions about how we are going to live our lives. when you look at the fact that we now have 39 of 50 states that have mask mandates, there are still 11 holdouts there including what brian kemp is
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doing in georgia, and he is suing the mayor of atlanta over her decision to put in a mask mandate. you see that there are lines being drawn in the sand about those that are following the science and the advice of our public health officials, like dr. fauci and dr. birx, and those that are going off on their own here. there are democratic governors that have done a bad job. we talked a lot on this program about what happened in nursing homes. but we cannot change the fact that the president's approval rating on handling this is under 40, and for good reason. there were other things he could have done. he could have trusted the experts, he could have. that's what joe biden is referring to. he could have acted faster. >> harris: as we have said many times, we are learning about this every single day. rachel, i'm sorry. rachel? >> rachel: i was just going to say, biden said he had the playbook on what to do with this virus. he was the person that was criticizing the president,
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calling him a racist for blocking the flights from china. i don't know if it wasn't his playbook to put race and racial accusations before the lives of americans, but we all know that was something even dr. fauci said didn't need to happen, and we now know it saved countless lives. i don't know if we can trust biden on this. i think we are learning a lot as we move along, and i think it is very difficult to look at the number of cases, which scares people as these numbers grow, without looking at the death rate and so many people that aren't actually dying from it. to not scare people, because we know a lot more people are going to die from poverty and hunger worldwide because of the effects of coronavirus, than they ever will from the symptoms of coronavirus. >> harris: food insecurity, those things melissa was talking about, the economics of the situation, there will be people who suffer from that. we wanted to work out well for
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everybody but we are learning every day. we'll move on. one of the suspects in the attacks on new york city police officers on the brooklyn bridge has now been released without bail. the nypd chief who was also attacked, speaking out. ♪ >> they know the time that they saved the life of a baby, of a cardiac victim. how often have they run into gunfire to say people? these are the heroes of 9/11. ♪ at university of phoenix,
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on $10,000 bail, and now a 24-year-old woman is under arrest accused of using a cane to attack officers during that incident. there were reports she had a police sergeant and tried to bite another while being taken into custody. the nypd chief who was also attacked on that brig with this sobering dog sobering take on the current climate. >> there's a lot of animosity toward the police, and we are feeling it not just in protests when these anarchists take over it, but on the streets. on the street corners, there is a feeling that you don't have to listen to the police and they are willing to fight the police officers. it is important that we as an agency tell them how much we appreciate them. how much we know they're out there. >> melissa: david, as a
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resident even new york city was always my understanding is that the last thing you want to do is put your hands on police officer. >> david: not anymore. >> melissa: if you were cuffed, it was over, you were going in. to think that the video that is very hard to watch, because it is so bloodied, that the person who did that was released, i don't know. what are your thoughts? why is this being tolerated in new york city? >> david: it's being tolerated because of the leadership. you look at mayor bill de blasio, or warren wilhelm jr., whichever name he wants to use, and a democrat party and large democrat figures that i've given tacit or direct approval of black lives matter. so, what has gone from a peaceful protest for justice -- i don't put rachel into it, what happened to george floyd, harris and rachel, we've all seen this. we all agreed that was fatal
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police brutality -- has turned into a violent people in this country that has emboldened people, whether they are already criminals were committing criminal acts, assaulting police officers. they are assaulting other citizens. this is not just police. a grandmother, a child, whatever it is, they are assaulting people based on this. we are talking about two people dead, assassinate in the police car. this is not a peaceful movement. it emboldens people to do things like get baseball bats, hand them out to rioters, put up pallets of bricks around ameri america. this false notion that this is somehow about george floyd. when was the last time you heard his name mentioned in the public consciousness? justice for george floyd is needed, but what we see now is a leftist neo-marxist black lives matter antifa anti-american movement that has taken over any of the protests that were
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actually about justice for george floyd. >> melissa: i just wanted to read specifically what happened in this incident, and that's why i was looking around and flipping pages. jessica, i'll get your response on the other side. the suspect allegedly broke both the orbital bones, sending him to the hospital for 12 stitches on the face. police say they recovered a taser from one of the suspect's pockets, and a folding knife. that's why we assume that particular suspect is being held. but they are accused of socking the highest uniformed officer several times in the face, as nypd chief terence monahan tried to arrest campbell after he had punched another officer and lieutenant near the manhattan approach to the bridge. jessica?
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>> jessica: it simply heartbreaking to me, as lifelong new yorker. i grew up in downtown manhattan, i live now union square, with the police station nearby, and a hub for police officers around all the time keeping us safe. it really moves me. i don't understand it. i think people just lashing out is obviously not the answer to anything here, either for getting justice for george floyd or dealing with reforms that we need to make to the police department, which everyone agrees, whether you are saying it's a few bad apples that we need real systemic changes, i think we are all on the same page. those 8 minutes and 46 seconds really changed our lives in that respect. it's devastating. bill de blasio, i think, is the crux of the problem, and we've seen that for years. there are plenty of liberals that think that. i just want to say quickly -- and i don't want the segment turned into the last two over this -- but what david webb just said, again, was listing off every left term you could come a
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leftist, socialist, marxist, blm, whatever, and then alleging that democratic leadership was in some way supportive of violence against police officers is incredibly irresponsible. show me the democratic leader who said, "go out there and put your hands on a police officer." nancy pelosi, chuck schumer? who is saying these things, david? >> david: i look at the policies. i look at the actions or the lack of it, jessica. i look at the ted wheelers of the world, the mayor bowsers, bill de blasio. i look at democrat leaders who say they teach their children to be afraid of the police. i look at people like that who provide this tacit support, and to pretend it doesn't exist is to live in a fantasy world. i am on the streets, you are not. i am in these riots, you are not. i am they're covering it, and i have been for years. so don't lecture me about what i have seen in the democratic party leadership.
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>> jessica: when you release the people who caused this kind of fighting -- >> melissa: moving on, guys. okay, hang on. i'm going to turned over to harris. harris, we have heard bill de blasio say a lot of things that everyone knows that i am probably, you know, lowest on his fan list. i don't think he's ever said put your hands on police. >> harris: and you have taken care of that part of the conversation. i just want to focus on where the people are actually talking, and how things are shifting. i don't think our leaders are listening to them. some of the leaders are in the black community. so, just yesterday, the brooklyn borough leader, erik adams, former nypd cop, african-american, says, "you know what? wait a minute with that, defund. because you broke apart the anti-crime unit, and i we are going to need to reinstate that." look, everyone can see the same thing right now, you guys.
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we are all looking at the same thing again. let's just call it for what it is. it's a mess, and it's a dangerous mess now. you can pick sides on whoever you want to back or whatever, but at the very heart of this is we are going to need order in our streets. how do we get there together? and, look, if you are listening, if you are paying attention, some of the people who you might think politically would go one way are now saying, "wait, we need those anti-crime plainclothes cops back again to stop some of the crime. not just to protect the police --" and i think it was you, rachel, who said it, but the citizens, too. everybody becomes a victim potential in this. we have to listen to everybody and stop putting shirts on people. "you're a republican, yo are the democrat." you know what we are? americans. >> melissa: a war over masks in georgia, the governor suing the state capital city, and how atlanta's mayor responding. that's next.
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>> harris: we will see him in court. that, from atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms after governor brian kemp sued the city to block her efforts to require face coverings in public places. the governor's lawsuit comes days after his executive order overruling mask mandates by atlanta and more than one dozen other local governments. watch. >> it is mind-boggling that this governor, who did not know that this virus was a symptomatic until we were well into the pandemic, wood waste resources on saving me personally and the city council for our mask mandates. it is really a distraction from what the real enemy is here, and that enemy is this virus that is
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killing people in our city. >> harris: governor kemp, however, since his lawsuit is aimed at protecting hardworking georgians and businesses. also, arkansas and colorado are the latest tissue statewide mandates, which mandate that people wear face masks in public as coronavirus cases spike across america. that makes 26 states and washington, d.c., with some form of requirement to wear a face covering in public. rachel, i come to you. one of the thing that george is mayor kemp said is that he doesn't want to make it a requirement, but he is recommending to people that the. what is the end result of this? >> rachel: that is of course what kristi noem did in her state, and had some fairly good results, with a population and density being different. it's hard to tell. really the government and the officials have a lot to do with the confusion around the masks, and any of the orders we have
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gotten, we have seen a lot of mixed messages. for example, if you recall, when they first started talking about masks, they said masks aren't helpful for anyone who isn't used to wearing them. well, when i first read that statement, i thought, "that's pretty weird." and that made me start to question anything coming out of the government. then we saw government officials saying that mass gatherings at church were bad, but mass gatherings for blm were fine. or it's okay -- planned parenthood is an essential business but churches aren't. walmart is okay to buy clothes from, but small mom-and-pop businesses aren't. i think a lot of us were very confused by the messages, and i think, unfortunately, because it has become political, a lot of us are left to using our own judgment and looking at the data and looking at the science coming out and trying to weed out the politics that is infecting so much of what we are hearing.
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>> harris: david, why is mask wearing political now? >> david: because, inevitably, politics will play into this, because decisions are made of the state level by the governor's offices who have those police powers under the constitution. what we have now is misinformation. rachel talked about the differences in the messages we are getting. at one time dr. fauci said that they weren't necessary, and another time they are. the fact is that we've left something to the politicians that we need to do as americans, which is educate ourselves on what it means to wear a mask, the type of mask. what it means to protect ourselves. we have to add practice, not just ppe, but another p. practice. what in our daily lives puts us in the right position to protect ourselves and others around us who care about your community, your family members, your friends? we have left that to them too often. so we have a legal fight. it'll be interesting, because
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the police powers in the states reside in the state house, in the governor's office. this will be interesting to see how atlanta and the governor's office get through the court system. >> harris: wow. a lot of good information and all of that that you said, david. with that personal accountability and responsibility, jessica, i come to you. if there is distrust, people who are really suffering after the wholesale lockdowns across the country, economically, may ask, "was all that necessary?" have seen experts say, "if we need to redo the open, how much to be locked down?" this is a fluid situation. i imagine masks are part of this. how do you see it? >> jessica: it absolutely is a fluid situation. but i don't think mask-wearing should be part of that fluidity. it is very simple to say, especially to small business owners in particular who want to open up their businesses, have
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people wearing masks. the people who work for you, the people coming in, wear a mask. we know it cuts down on the transmission of this disease. the science is very clear on that. david is right, the inconsistencies from dr. fauci, also from the surgeon general, from jerome adams. he originally said we didn't need to do it, and now wears a mask constantly and is talking it up on all the cable news shows in the sunday news shows. mask wearing is something we can all agree on. what i am heartened to see is that republicans, democrats, and independence, large majorities, i'll get it. the governor of georgia should get it, as well, especially considering how dense his state is. in population, not in intelligence. just to clarify. i didn't mean that. >> harris: got it. and the u.s. surgeon general now, i don't know if you seen his youtube video, but he can help you make one at home. it's pretty compelling. even your kids can do it, in terms of mask wearing. we'll move on. wednesday's high profile twitter
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>> melissa: twitter says wednesday a cyber attack targeted accounts and a bitcoins scam, including those of joe biden, former president obama, executives like elon musk, and celebrities like kanye west. of course, this raises concerns about the platform's security and whether an attack closer to november could wreak havoc on the 2020 election. republican senator josh hawley, and a letter to twitter ceo jack dorsey, urging the company to work with federal authorities to secure the platform, writing, "a successful attack on your system's service represents a threat to all of your users' privacy and data security." rachel, i will start with you. what do you think about this one? i mean, as soon as i saw the tweets, i knew it was a hack. but it does still highlight the fact that all the social media platforms are incredibly vulnerable, and i wonder how we
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protect ourselves from allowing that to have some sort of impact on the election in the fall. >> rachel: it is such a great question. one thing that it made me think immediately about is that, you know, maybe these companies ought to focus less on censoring donald trump and conservatives on their platforms and focus a little more on cyber security. you right, our elections are at stake, and this could have a huge impact. frankly, big tech has been resisting a lot of the measures that the government has put forward. i'm really glad that josh hawley is moving forward, because i think some of these other issues, including censorship, have done more to impact elections than russia or many of the other things that they focused on. on the left. >> melissa: jessica? >> jessica: it's a whole other segment that we have done many times about this falsehood that
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republicans spread, that social media is censoring conservatives. donald trump had a couple tweets that were marked because they were potentially inciting violence, and chuck woolery had his account banned because he said the coronavirus was fake. excuse me, give me a break here. the number one site is fox news. the president would be present without twitter, i'm pretty sure about that. let's move on from that. the acts are serious. i obviously it was a scam, president obama wouldn't be a bit coin guide. it is concerning. i'm not against the idea of private companies working with the federal government on this. i thought that they should, as well, when he wanted to get into the iphone of the san bernardino killer, for instance. i think we need cooperation on those fronts. >> melissa: david? >> david: i think what is missing here is the conversation about personal safety. i have 2-factor authentication. we monitor accounts. i choose to use twitter, parlor,
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facebook, instagram, because it's part of what i do. as for the hack, we've seen this before. according to some of my sources, this is a possibility that they are looking to internal issues. for the sony hack it, it was bad passwords. " one, two, three four." the axis, criminals look to buy in. criminals buy in and sell to state actors. it's important that we follow all of this. our personal security is something that we need to practice actively on social media. >> melissa: all right, more "outnumbered" in just a moment. ? i should get a quote. do it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ are made with farm grownal apples as the first ingredient.
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special, "harris faulkner presents: the fight for america." an open and honest conversation about the state of our nation. you do not want to miss it. it'll be fantastic. i have no doubt. that is sunday at 10:00 p.m. eastern. i know i'll be watching. thanks to everyone here on the virtual couch. and everyone at home on your couch, for joining us. we will be back here on monday. now, here's harris with "outnumbered overtime." ♪ >> harris: there is a new fallout over that shocking attack on new york city police officers on the brooklyn bridge this week. you are watching "outnumbered overtime" now. i'm harris faulkner. the man accused of punching nypd chief terence monahan and two other police officers during the protests on the bridge has been released without bail instead of being granted supervised release. he and another suspect who is being held

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