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unafraid. "fox news primetime" hosted this week by lawrence jones and i watched this show last night. i was glued to it. should you watch it, too. it starts right now. hi. >> thank you, bret. a great show. >> good evening and welcome to "fox news primetime." i'm lawrence jones and tonight we're re-imagining education. joe biden's secretary of education richard cardona was confirmed this week with a 64-33 vote. who is richard cardona? his nomination flew under the radar so i don't blame you if you happen to miss him say this back in december. >> we must embrace the opportunity to re-imagine education and build it back better. we must evolve it to meet the needs of our students. >> re-imagine education. now, on paper it sounds good. after all the american education
system was -- long before covid took place. a little creativity and imagination would probably be pretty good. but then i remember what re-imagination means to the teacher's union. >> this is only so much i can do virtually but perhaps the focus right now should be on re-imagining what education looks like in the future. >> if you prioritize safety we can figure out how to re-imagine education. >> if the future of education is virtual we don't need to imagine what the impact will be on our children. we can see it right now in households all over america. our kids are struggling in silence, while the unions scream to keep the schools closed. the left likes to throw around phrases like social justice, equity, they say black lives matter. who do you think this hurts the most?
that's right. black and brown kids. that's who. 1/3 of black households don't have internet access. how are those kids supposed to learn virtually? i tell you how. they don't. a study of ohio student found that black kids were chronically absent 60% more this year than in 2019. how will they make those days up? how will they close the gap? the reality is many won't. the fact is this year doesn't end when the lockdowns are lifted. our children's study gap isn't just going to go away. it's going to get worse. it will snowball for decades. a sanford study estimates that children who miss out on schooling because of the pandemic could end up earning
six percent to 9% less over the course of their careers and if i seem angry or upset by this, please understand why. i see myself in those stats. i grew up in garland, texas, a town outside of dallas where 70% of the students were eligible for free or reduced lunch. i'm the oldest of three and my mom and dad both worked hard. sometimes they had to work late and a principal or basketball coach would have to drive me home from school. they did everything that they could do to give us a better life and i'm grateful for them every day. but i wonder. what would have happened to our family if i was a kid now? what if the pandemic cost my parents their jobs, or better yet, what if they had to keep working? who would have overseen my schooling? who would have shouldered the
burden of making sure my brother or sister were in front of a computer and paying attention? that would have been on me. the truth of the matter is, i don't know if i would be here sitting in this seat talking to you right now if, if the pandemic would have hit when i was a little boy. think about it. we won't know the true impact of these lockdowns for decades. but we do know that our kids are hurting right now. they are desperate to return to the classroom. to some kind of normalcy. there are kids here in new york who are willing to travel three hours to play football at a charter school in harlem because they know playing ball and getting a scholarship is their best chance to get out, to succeed.
why are we making them work this hard? and look at this little girl who was locked out of her school for nearly an entire year. >> guess what? >> what? >> really? >> i've waited for this for a long time. [girl crying] do you feel that? you can't watch that video and tell me virtual learning is good for our children. the isolation alone has taken a toll on our children's mental health and now we have the facts to prove it. teen suicide attempts were up 99% in april in 2020 compared to 2019. overdoses were even worse.
up nearly 120%. those aren't just numbers. those are our children. those are kids like dillon buckner of north brook, illinois. just 18 years old. a good student. a popular kid. a star quarterback with 14 offers to play college ball. a young man on the rise. dillon, he took his on life back in january. his parents said he was struggling with depression, which only got worse during the lockdown. his friends and community came together for a vigil after he died. if those friends had been able to get together with dillon at any point during the last 12 months, have a burger, maybe study some algebra, would he still be alive today? how many more dillons will it take before we stand up and say,
enough. at some point, the pandemic will be over. our kids will go back to school and maybe, just maybe, we'll forget about this last year. maybe we'll forget about the people who fought to keep our classrooms closed, even when the science said it was bad for our kids. but don't do it. never forget. take action and vote out the governors, the mayors, the school board and city council members who put the demands of the unions ahead of the health and well-being of our children. remember this is america. you have the power to fight back. so stand up. make sure that the people who locked up your children never have the chance to do it ever again. joining me now is dillon's
father chris buckner. chris, thank you so much for joining us today, and i'm so sorry for your loss. can you tell me a little bit about your son? >> sure, lawrence, thanks for having me on. i really appreciate it. dillon was a great kid. he had some very kind words -- you had some very kind words about him and they were all true. a great student, student-athlete. a ton of friends and was really always successful at anything he wanted to do. before i learned of his struggles in september of last year, he was the perfect kid, the kind of kidney parent would love to have. >> when did you start to notice a difference in him? >> part of my message, lawrence, is that it is just so hard to see these things. before september, when dillon made the first unsuccessful
attempt on his life, i just had no idea that he was in any kind of crisis or battling depression. and i know skeptics might say that you missed something or you weren't paying attention but part of my message is just, this could happen to anyone. i think i was a great dad. but i know dillon had the best mom anybody could have, and we loved him, and he knew that, and he had anything and everything you could ask for. he had a warm home. a bed to sleep on at night. he had plenty of food, and yet, he hid this from us. you know, i think that's part of my message, you know, if you're not talking to your kids, if you can't talk about this topic with your kids, you could be surprised, too, and i hope that doesn't happen to anyone, but i hope nobody will brush my message off and think, well, they must have missed something or it couldn't happen to me. i was that parent before dillon made his first attempt in
september. i thought this could never happen to dillon or me. this is not the type of thing that happens to successful kids that have so much going in their life. but the reality of it is, it can happen to your kid. >> chris, you're obviously great father, when you look at what he was able to accomplish in his short life, he was a fighter, he worked hard, that's something that you can definitely be proud of, but there are family members that are listening to this right now. they see something similar, in their own kids potentially. what would you tell those parents? >> well, i think you're lucky if you see something, so, if you see something that concerns you, i would take action. i would absolutely take action. you've got to talk to your kids, really talk to them, but if you know that they have made plans for suicide. if they have talked about harming themselves, that's a cry for help. that's a crisis signal, and you
shouldn't hesitate to call 911, if it's that serious, or to try and get your child help immediately, and i think one of the things that people don't understand is that in many parts of the country and in my hometown, this is certainly the case. if you called and needed to get mental healthcare for your child outside of the hospital, you may not be able to get it today. if you needed a therapist for your child, a private therapist for your child to talk to you may not be able to find one today because they are overwhelmed. the inpatient centers and the therapists are overwhelmed with kids in crisis. but i wouldn't give up the effort. i think a lot of parents may not know, i didn't know, that there are counselors at the school, social workers, psychiatrists, therapists, and if your child is in crisis, by all means, contact them. but don't wait for the police to show up on your door and do a mental health check on your child because a friend or
someone else has reported then to the police. if your child is in crisis, call the police and get help. get them to the hospital. call 911 and get them the care that they need. >> chris what do you say to the elected leaders? >> i think you made great points in your monologue. back a year ago, when the disease was just getting started and we didn't have a vaccine, we didn't know how it impacted all age groups. we didn't really know how to treat it. i think, a short shutdown probably made a lot of sense, but now, after a year, we're losing more kids to mental health crisis, suicides, than we are covid in their age group, and in cook county where i live according to the medical examiner 38 kids 18 and under have died by suicide in the last year. there have only been five covid deaths. i don't have all the answers for
covid. it's complex. but i think people who, like kids who are young and healthy, they are not living in a multigenerational household should be able to choose what they want to do at this point. the health system isn't overwhelmed. let the kids go back to school because being out of school, being isolated, all the stats you mentioned whether it's drug use, drug overdoses, suicide deaths, those are all a much greater rest to come kids these days than covid and kids not being able to engage in crick -- extracurricular activities. proms, graduations for seniors. these are the events that kids should, in my opinion be able to choose to take part in and shouldn't be stopped from doing so by local, state or federal government. >> chris, i want you to know that this audience, we're praying for you. we're sorry for your loss. and we hope that your story helps someone else. thank you so much for being on
the program. >> thank you. also tonight, dana, a nationally syndicated radio host. i want to get your reaction to that heartbreaking interview. >> that was a great interview, lawrence, and my prayers go out to the buckner family. i can't imagine after such an awful year and to have it compounded further by the loss of a child and everything that he said and everything that you talked about, to that point, lawrence, it's so true. i realized that a lot of adults out there, they look at these experiences, and the day-to-day interactions in the hallway, the games and the dances, as maybe not being a big deal. the night out with friends. just going to get pizza or hamburgers or something but to these kids, lawrence, and we were all kids, too, this is like a trial run for your experiences in adulthood. but it's in a controlled environment where you have your
parents. you have your teachers. your coaches. and these experiences shape who you become. they shape your character. and in addition, just to the academic study, i mean, there is so much that these kids are missing out on, and i know that everyone has sacrificed to different extents, some more than others but the generation that's going to be impacted the most, and i think the repercussions of this, are going to extend far beyond when we achieve herd immunity. it's school age kids. high school, junior, and elementary. dana, there has been a lot of talk all over the country about the gun lobby, but people don't talk about the power that the teacher unions willed. why does that not get any coverage? >> i think that's a very good point, and i don't doubt that there are, i mean, of course, there are teachers out there that very much care about the well-being of their students. but, you know, when you hear the cdc and you see the statistics,
i know we -- our kid's school, my youngest's school they did contact tracing just like new york did when they came out with their numbers. of course, schools were the lowest amongst the list of transmissions. schools, that's not where kids were getting it. in fact, grocery stores, i think, rated higher on the contact tracing list than schools did. i think schools ended up being something like.5%, and in new york it was barely a percentage point. so there are a lot of questions that parents have. how come teacher unions have this much power and influence and they need to determine where do they want to come out on this? you're there to represent the voters, not teacher unions. somebody has to be the adult in the room in d.c. and maybe joe biden can do it and convince the teacher unions to come along with him. >> we'll see. these politicians have been bought and paid for, and it's sad that they are putting --
campaign contributions ahead of the safety of these kids. thank you so much. >> thank you, lawrence. good to see you. >> thanks, my friend. >> how long can president biden deny his open border agenda? the preparations that are already under way for the largest flood of migrant children we've seen in years.
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combined. now border patrol is offering to send reinforcements but biden says don't worry. there is nothing here to see. everything is totally under control. here now, senator tom cotton of arkansas. senator, nothing here to see? >> lawrence, gets to be on with you. the biden border surge was entirely predictable and i predicted it last fall. you can't promise amnesty, open borders and healthcare for illegals and not expect migrants to surge to the border and that's exactly what happened. every month since the election the number of migrants showing up increases, especially unaccompanied minors. look what happened compared to the last year of the trump administration. unaccompanied minors this january are almost doubled what they were last january. this february, almost triple since last february. february is the depths of winter. texas had a terrible winter storm. what is it going to be like in two months, in 60 days, when texas and mexico have springtime
weather. this is entirely the fault of joe biden and his open borders policy. >> you know, senator, i've been to the border. i've talked to folks, where it impacts them. i've seen the footties they put on their feet to hide the tracks. i've talked with the border patrol and understand how the cartel does the business on the border. how does this impact people that aren't on the boarder, though? >> well, remember, all of these migrants are going to get released into the country. joe bide isn't reinstituting catching and release. in fact, he's actually seeking out migrants who were turned away last year by donald trump's administration and inviting them to come back to the border. that's not catch and release. that's recruit and released. when they get released they get work permits, told to show up to court, sometimes as much as two years later, oftentimes they don't and four times out of five when they have their cases heard they lose their cases but then they have got to be deported, right? do you think joe biden's administration will deport them after they have been in the country for two years with his
permission? please. that's not going to happen. this is going to flood our communities which will drive down wages and take away jobs. >> senator, under the trump administration, it was called cages, and now it's called facilities. did i miss something, did they redesign some things? i was just at the border three weeks ago. what aim missing here? >> yes. pretty soon they may be calling them joe biden's summer fun camps. they are saying -- we're not saying don't come, we're saying don't come now. our asylum process is not designed to accept hundreds of thousands of people at our border. it's for people, say, a hong konger who is here in school, his visa is expired and he can't go back because the chinese party has cracked down in hong
kong. if people overseas or south of our border think they have a valid time to protected status in their country they need to go to our embassies and consulates and seek refugee status. they don't need to take the risks to cross mexico, go through smugglers to get to our border just because joe biden has opened up the borders. >> it's one thing to debate immigration reform but the board issue is totally separate and i think the american people know that there is a crisis unlike what the secretary said. senator, thank you so much for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> next up. how district attorney's radical agenda is letting accused killers off the hook. did anybody ask the victims how they feel about that? >> he's not taking any of us into consideration. i never thought i would have to say goodbye to a child. to my only son.
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in los angeles tonight families of violent crime victims are outraged over the radical new criminal justice reforms put into place by l.a. county district attorney. his aggressive agenda backed by black lives matters -- life without parole sentences. now there is an attempt to recall him. he's made it clear the victims of these horrific crimes, families who lost loved ones, are not his top priority. so i did something he refused to do. sit down with them one by one and hear them out. watch. [siren] people do not have enough education -- >> my son will never speak again
because he was murdered. >> this needs to stop. >> this man is the criminal's best friend. >> this is torture all over again. >> them being on the street knowing they are going to do it again, it's not fair. please. get this man out of here. [siren] i never thought that i would ever have to lose a child, to say goodbye to a child. >> her son julien was brutally murdered in may 2018 but under l.a. district attorney's reforms, all of the special circumstances that would have put these suspects away for life without parole if convicted are now dismissed. >> it was a slap in the face. their brains haven't fully developed, i do not care. someone who murders someone, you know what you're doing. >> the family of sergeant steve is also in mourning.
she served alongside her husband and wants the killer to face the death penalty. >> with my husband not only murdered but he was executed, this new district attorney has turned this justice system that does work completely upside-down. >> we were robbed of our husband. robbed of my son. and then for this attorney to do this, it's just like robbery all over again. >> district attorney george -- was sworn into office on december 7, 2020. since then he's faced swift backlash, not just from victims' families but from his peers and deputies within his own office. >> within minutes of him being sworn in he adopts add number of special directives which is the wholesale abandonment of victims' rights. you can no longer seek capital punishment or life without the possibility of parole. >>
are the criminals aware of these changes? >> oh, they are fully aware and they actually love the d.a. >> you look in the eyes of the victims in l.a. county and tell them they are safe? >> i can't, no. >> but one victim's family in l.a. county have gotten justice. in 1981, connie's 6-year-old son jeffrey was kidnapped and murdered. his case was put on hold for 34 years until an arrest was made in 2015 but after the reforms threatened to release the killer early the orange county d.a. intervened and the predator took his plea deal with l.a. >> he agreed to plead guilty without the possibility of parole and go to jail for the rest of his miserable life which my husband and i were just totally relieved. >> if it wasn't for orange county stepping in -- >> that's right. >> this wouldn't have gone down the way it went down that's absolutely right. >> you kept fighting. >> absolutely.
>> until you got justice but there are a lot of other victims that have not gotten justice. >> i know. >> if the d.a. was standing in front of you, what would you tell him? >> that i wake up every day, one child less. every day. every day that have i to look into my grandkids' eyes, that hurts. >> think about if you had to be at your dad's bedside in the hospital holding him as they did cpr, what would you want? >> this is not over. we still have a voice. we can do something about this. >> recall this man. >> joining me now is desiree, a mother and former senior deputy d.a. desiree, i'm so sorry about your loss. your son was beaten, left for dead, he fought for his life, and the d.a. did what?
>> absolutely nothing. in fact, he made matters worse for me. i feel revictimized all over again, having to relive moments that i thought i would have justice for, and unfortunately now i'm fighting for my son all over again, as i did in the very beginning. >> heartbreaking. we talked a little bit, we got a statement from the d.a. and i want to read it for you and get your reaction. while a minority of victims want the maximum punishment imposed in their case, research shows these views are not shared by the majority of survivors of violence crimes. as most survivors don't find healing by putting another person in a cage. our system of justice can't continue to rely on policies that create more victims
tomorrow, simply because a minority of victims want the maximum punishment imposed in their case. what is your reaction to that, desiree? >> it makes me angry. that's a very, very cold statement. >> it was. >> the minority of victims don't want this? i haven't met one victim's family yet that wants their loved one's murderer out. i don't understand that statement. this is a human being we're talking about. this is someone's life. this is my son, and for him to say something like that, it makes me sick to my stomach that that's who we have defending us victims. i truly do not believe he is a district attorney. he about more like a public defender in my eyes and it really makes me upset. >> a guy who couldn't even pick up the phone and call you,
releases a statement like this. matt, how does a guy like that get elected? >> well, i think the stars aligned in the worst possible way in the last election. we all witnessed it. i grew up in l.a. george claims to be progressive. this is not progressive. this is regressive. these policies take us right back to the revolving door that we had going in the 1970s and 1980s that resulted in the murders of people like polly klaas. this is the kind of stuff that enacted reforms, like three strikes, like the gun enhancement. this is outrageous. i just heard that for the first time. that the majority of victims don't support that i was a already for 26 years. i attended parole hearings for 17 of those as i worked in the orange county home homicide unit. there is no way -- it's outrageous, absolutely untrue.
victims who lose loved ones due to violent crime want justice for the people that were taken away from home and under current california law there are ways to do that, and george gascon has unilaterally decided he's not going to impose gun enhancement, sometimes, my clients, i represent five of these, one whom i heard on the clip, her husband was a sheriff's sar joint that responded to a burglary, person he encountered was a violent felon with an extensive criminal history, a documented gang member, ambushed him, shot him once, disabled him, walked over to him, and executed him. shot him three times in the face and then another time in the badge sending a message, right? that guy, because of george gascon's policies, could be released as soon as eight years from today. so if it takes us another year or two to get to trial that's literally less than six years in
california state prison for that crime. it's astounding. george gascon keeps coming out with these statements that are absolutely not true. they have manipulated statistics. it's outrageous what's happening and the people of los angeles deserve better. >> i've got to tell you, i've been following these cases. the guys were in court laughing, high fiving with their defense attorney. then you've got gascon, never prosecuted a case in his life. this is coming not just to l.a., but all across the country. this show will stay on. thanks so much, we'll get justice. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. >> minneapolis is preparing for more deadly riots but some of the city's leaders are saying they don't want help from the national guard. that might send the wrong message. pete is next with a response. still your best friend. and now your co-pilot. still a father. but now a friend.
next week in minneapolis. calling in a thousand police and national guard troops for a back-up. there is concern that a nonguilty verdict could lead to widespread violence but some say they don't want the national guard or police around because of their traumatizing presence. >> i have been a little bit disappointed with the heavy police focus of this plan up until, you know, today. i feel luke i haven't -- i certainly know the community feels like it hasn't really heard a plan that earns the kind of trauma that happened this past summer. >> so let me get this straight. they think it's okay for us to keep the national guard at the capitol indefinitely, but not use them when there is an actual threat to business owners and residents? fox and friends rep joins us, but first, pete, what could
possibly go wrong? >> that's exactly -- i'm from minnesota. you can talk to residents there right now. they know they are sitting on a powder keg depending on the verdict and there is almost no verdict that won't lead to violence. you've got national guard some of which were deployed from minnesota to the capitol after what happened there even though there is a nonexistent ongoing threat there so think about it. we need thousands of troops at our nation's capitol for a threat that doesn't exist. yet we're not prepared to put any national guard potentially based on what some of these leaders on the streets when we know there will be violence. there is terror in minneapolis about what will happen yet they won't use law enforcement because the leaders of minneapolis are fundamentally unfurious people who don't want to protect law-abiding citizens and they want to play politically correct games. who else is going to do it, lawrence, if people are he will
bent on burning down the streets. it makes no sense. >> why the double standard? >> why the double standard? because it's all politics. you can yell about defunding the police all you want. finding a real alternative, reexamining community police, call it whatever you want, someone out there with a badge and a gun and courage has to go stand between the chaos that you get in moments, and law-abiding citizens who deserve that protection. it won't be anybody else so there is lots of talk about who that might be. you've covered a lot of it. you just did an amazing segment but it comes down to political philosophy and if you want to let criminals out of jail or you don't want police or you want to be on the side of the criminals you'll get more of that criminality. what happens with these police officers will in no way be sufficient for the agitators. not the real people affected but the agitators and you'll see violence. >> pete, you take some people off of the media when you said
this. -- ticked some people off. >> in between bites of bagels, americans talk more about the 10th amendment,es sow tear thing things like the minimum wage. >> -- worships a golf loving ivy league educated self-described billionaire who covers his house in gold leafs, as if he doesn't have degrees himself from both princeton and harvard, he derives the esoteric things that the ivy league talks about. >> pete? >> i made the mistake of having respect and appreciation that we talk to, and when i talk, it's amazing. what i said on the stage at cpac, they want to talk about faith, family, freedom, first amendment, the second amendment and the 10th amendment. >> that's dangerous, man. >> you talk about states' rights and any right not given the federal government is bestowed on the states and the people. they get it and they talk about
it all the time. the man i met on my way in here gave me pocket constitution and said i hope you'll be talking about this tomorrow morning. she didn't even know what the topic was, so average folks love our country, love our cherished freedoms and talk about it all the time and these liberals slamming me have never seen a fox and friends segment so i invite them to tune in, we'll be in north carolina talking to the folks at a family restaurant and see what they think. >> what a plug. i'll be watching tomorrow even though i'm up this late. love you, brother. i'll be watching tomorrow. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> the texas governor is putting the power back into the people's hands. becoming the first to officially lift a mask mandate and the so-called experts aren't happy about it.
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[applause] >> now that's the texas i know! texas governor greg abbott is letting businesses and residents decide how they want to stay safe citing declining hospitalizations and increase in vaccination for his decision to end the mask mandate and allow businesses to fully reopen. joining me now is a fox news contributor and host of "sincerely kat" on foxnation. kat, liberty lives on again in texas. >> you know what is crazy? a year ago when this was all starting, the original justification for the lockdowns was flatten the curve. now people are saying this is crazy. it's not crazy we're now having teachers say you know what, even if i have a vaccine, i'm not going back to school which by the way makes no sense to me. aren't you bored? i'm on level 2,733 of candy crush. i may be getting older. i'm far too young and definitely
too good-looking to be on level 2,733 of candy crush. believe it or not, people have bigger problems than that, right? businesses closing down and livelihoods being destroyed, mental health struggles and prolodged loneliness could lead to problems as well. my grandparents are in texas. still be safe. right? grandma and papa timpf, i know you want to hit the club. not until you're fully vaccinated. almost as if he said you can't wear a mask. no, he's putting the hands in the power of the people. >> isn't that what texas is all about? maybe i'm bias because i was born and raised there. this is embarrassing. democrats pulled nira tandem's nomination for omd director. >> you could have seen that coming, right? because it's a bipartisan position. and she didn't have, you know, the wherewithal to talk about people she didn't like behind their backs the way that politicians are supposed to do when they want to be successful, she put it all out there on
twitter. there's a lot of kids watching fox news primetime right now the internet is forever! it's never really gone. >> this is true. this is true. well, she made this bed. now she's got to lie down in it. one more, speaking of no rules, new jersey law prevents drops telling parents about kids getting caught with weed. i know you're prolegalization, i am, too, but shouldn't the kids' parents be notified? >> i don't understand this at all. i'm all about not -- you know, putting kids in the criminal justice system over something like this but i don't get it. is eric cartman real and he got a meeting with the governor? i don't understand how -- it doesn't make sense, because a lot of police officers what they do is they do talk to the parents instead of putting them in that system. i don't see justification for this at all. kat timpf folks. thank you for joining me. >> that was fun, let's do it again tomorrow. i'm lawrence jones.
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