♪♪ paul: welcome to "the journal editorial report," i'm paul gigot. the biden administration continues to face growing scrutiny over its handling of the migrant surge on our southern border. in texas members of the media were finally allowed inside one of the mains processing centers to see the humanitarian crisis firsthand. in new mexico, chilling video showing alleged smugglers dropping two children over a 14-foot border fence, and in arizona, local leaders feeling the effects of biden's policies with at least one border city declaring an emergency. my next guest has requested

federal money from homeland security to pay for a national guard deployment along his state's border with mexico. arizona governor governor doug y joins me now. >> thanks for having me paul. paul: president biden says what we're seeing at the border is nothing more than the seasonal flow, is that what you're seeing? >> no. this is a crisis, this is an emergency. this is a problem that we largely solve or was stable under the previous administration. the biden white house is divorced from reality. they need to fix these policies, properly communicate and provide resources to border states now so we can stem the tide of what's happening at this border. it's both a national security crisis and a humanitarian crisis. paul: so as you look at what's happening this year compared to others, is it the magnitude or

is it the fact that we're seeing a surge in unaccompanied minors or is it both? >> well, it's all of the above. it's the surge in unaccompanied minors, it's the spike in crossings. we never if see these kinds of numbers in february and march, a nearly 500% increase in terms of apprehensions or a 300% plus increase of people coming over that have a previous criminal record. and we've got almost 18,000 children in the custody of the federal government at this time with more on the way. the biden administration's communication has been a marketing a arm for the criminal cartels who are getting these families to take this dangerous journey because they're telling them the border's open, and they are welcome. paul: all right. now, what are your security people telling you that the actual migrants when they come over, what are the migrants saying to them to explain why they're coming? >> well, i think you've seen

this on other pieces. i think there was a piece on abc that actually showed these migrants saying they're coming because they feel welcomed by the president, because they've been invite by president biden. president lopez obrador in mexico called president biden the migrant president and said his rhetoric is inviting peopling from guatemala, el salvador, honduras and mexico to make this journey. we have to get our communication right, and we have to get our policies right. >> paul: so what policy changes would you recommend, apart from the rhetoric of giving people the impression that they're welcome here to come in illegally? what policy changes immediate to be made? >> well, the rhetoric is important. people need to know that the border must be secured and that it's closed, that there's a legal way to come boo our country, and this is not -- into our country, and this is not the way to do it. we're talking about title 42, which has been waived by the

biden administration so it lets migrant children come across the border, the migrant protection protocols, what was called the remain in mexico program which was largely successful and disincented people from making this dangerous journey, and then the safe country program has also been reversed by the biden administration. paul: now, the president says they're deporting people under the section 42 rule. i guess it's just the children that they are, they claim it's just the children that they're letting stay in the united states, and the president says it's inhumane to send them back alone. what's your response to this? >> well, there's over 100,000 people that have been apprehended, to it's not just children. we're at 18,000 children, and we all care about these kids. but you are not helping these children the you're giving their parents an incentive to work with a drug cartel or human trafficker to send them on this

journey. that's what's inhumane about this, and that's been the ve reversal of the biden policies. they also need to be speaking directly to the leaders of the northern triangle countries as well as president lopez obrador so he understands the situation as well. president trump certainlied had mexico's attention -- certainly had mexico's attention on this. they were protecting their southern border to slow these migrations to begin with. we need to get back to those types of policies. paul: now, i know you spoke to the secretary of the d. of homeland security recently. i assume you made these points to him. what was his response? >> secretary mayorkas and i had a conversation. i really felt at the end of the conversation that he was divorced by reality. he tried to sign off by saying to me the border is secure. of and i pushed back and said, mr. secretary, that type of communication will ring with

complete inauthenticity in the state of arizona. we do need to communicate that the border is closed and then take the proper steps to secure the border, and i asked for their help in bringing our national guard to the border to support cbp and i.c.e. and the border patrol. paul: briefly, you want to invite the national guard, you want to send the national guard. you last did that in 2018. what difference did that make? >> it supports the people on the border. it supports law enforcement. it's not really unusual. barack obama called up the national guard to the border, george w. bush called up the guard to the border, of course president trump did. we need help from the biden administration. s this is our southern border. arizona feels these impacts first. of course we want to make sure these children are properly cared for, but it's also the drug cartels, human traffic and child sex traffickers are bringing kids across, exploiting them, bringing fentanyl and other dangerous drugs that then

go to the neighborhoods and schools across the country. so we need the administration's help. we want to be partners with them to fix this. we want to see a solution, and we'll work with them to accomplish that. paul: all right. governor ducey, thanks so much for being here. when we come back, the world health organization's long-delayed report on the origins of the coronavirus is finally out, but did we get any answers? plus, the head of the cdc's dire warning as covid cases rise again. what it all means for you next. ♪ ♪ the patented blend is clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. boost glucose control products contain high quality protein and key nutrients to support immune health. try boost. so you want to make the best burger ever? then make it! that means cooking day and night until... [ ding ] success! that means... best burger ever. intuit quickbooks helps small businesses be more successful with payments,

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parts of the country. listen to biden's cdc chief this week sounding the alarm over states she feels are reopening too quickly. >> i'm going to lose the script, and i'm going to reflect on the recurring feeling i have of impending doom. we do not have the luxury of inaction for the health of our country. we must work together now to prevent a fourth i surge. paul: let's bring in "wall street journal" column it dan henninger, and homan. did you learn anything new at all from the w.h.o. report? >> no, we learned that the w.h.o. with enough billion politicking could gain admittance to china, but they were not allowed to learn anything new. paul: do you attribute that to the fact that the chinese government has essentially kept control over the data, over the scientists and just it was sort

of a -- investigation in that sense? >> yeah, on both sides. the chinese or or you know with, they have blood samples, tissue samples going back into last fall, i mean, the fall of 2019 that could show us when and where the wuhan virus started to emerge first. they haven't shared that. they closed down a bunch of animal farms in the south of the country where early versions of the virus might have been incubating, no update on that. all of this kind of stuff the u.s. government and other western countries have been diligently researching to find out when early covid showed up in their countries and have been publishing the data. the chinese don't want to let you know where this thing came from. they're obviously hiding something. paul: well, i understand why china has an incentive to have this kind of a report, the whitewash, but what's the incentive for the world health organization which, after all, is supposed to represent the entire world on, on pandemics?

>> well, that's a good question. they want to preserve their relationship with china so they can get in there. that's the only thing that makes the w.h.o. indispensable, is it can get into and talk to the chinese when nobody else can. as you know, the trump administration was convinced the u.s. could do just fine without the w.h.o., and this report certainly is no evidence that w.h.o. solves real problems for the world. paul: yeah. the only question in my mind is what good is it. so this last theory that the virus was released, leaked, somehow got out of the wuhan institute of virology, there's a fair bit of evidence that that was possibly the case. i guess most conspicuously the fact that u.s. intelligence said there were people at the lab who showed sign of a covid-like symptoms way back when, a year or more than a year ago. what do you make of that theory?

>> it's entirely plausible. how can you possibly discount it? they put this lab in the middle of one of the most populace areas in china, you have people working exactly the kind of bat coronaviruses that the covid virus is believed to have sprung from the, you know? if the lab were in beijing, you wouldn't with think it necessarilied had to do with an outbreak in wuhan, but it's right in the middle of wuhan, and that's where this disease exploded on the world. how can you not or consider this a highly plausible theory? paul: dan, what do you make of the wuhan theory, and why do you think so many in the united states just don't want to hear about it? >> well, it's a good question. i think the burden now falls on the united states government which for the past two or three years has been collecting intelligence, as you suggested, about the wuhan virology institute. and the w.h.o. apparently just

did not consider the evidence that the united states had, and considering the seriousness of this, paul, i think the burden is now on the united states to release to the mix some of the intelligence -- to the public some of the intelligence it has. the stakeses are simply too high to allow the chinese to get away with this propaganda. this isn't merely about economic issues, this is about the health of the entire world. so i would hope the biden administration would release that intelligence that they have collected about the wuhan virology lab here since 2018. paul: great point. holman, let's turn to this so-called fourth wave and the alarm, the impending doom from the cdc director. how worried should we be? >> well, you know, half of america still is, does not have any immunity. it hasn't been previously infected or received the vaccine. so if you're one of of those people, you want to be careful especially if you have co-morbidities. but, you know, it's inevitable

that it's going to continue to spread until everyone is vaccinated or until there's a large degree of natural immunity. i think playing it up is really because the biden administration wants to maintain the crisis, and because the media -- [inaudible] on how many covid cases and on nothing else i think it has to do with their incentive to play up. these outbreaks are going to continue for the indefinite future, i think, just like it does with the flu. 5 or 10% of americans get the flu every year. paul: all right, thanks a lot. when we come back, under pressure, political pressure. some companies in georgia are speaking out against the state's latest voting law. we break down the latest next.

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♪♪ paul: some major companies caving to pressure from the political left are speaking out against georgia's new election law. delta's ceo calling the law unacceptable. both companies are headquartered in the peach state. and just this week president biden said he supports moving this year's a major league baseball all-star game out of atlanta in response to the law. joining me now, "wall street journal" columnist kim strassel, editorial board member kyle peterson and dan henninger. so, kyle, you've followed this law from the very beginning. is it voter suppression? >> well, there's a lot in the law, but i would say, no, not really. so something that joe biden keeps saying, he's said it two

or three times now, is that they're closing polling places at 5 p.m. just when working people are getting off. that's just not true. the law has some mandatory minimum hours for early voting, 9-5. analysts who have looked at this are saying, essentially, that means places that are shorter than that, that offer less than that right now are going to have to expand, but counties can also offer voting from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. which is plenty for these metropolitan areas. so that's just one example of something that's in the law that is an expansion of voting and is being cast completely the opposite way. paul: well, if i'm not mistaken, this actually liberalizes the state law in terms of a couple of areas like more drop boxes, for example, and time for, and the justification you need to obtain an absentee ballot. why don't you explain that? >> sure. so the drop boxes issue is interesting because the drop

boxes have never been allowed in georgia, were not allowed as of 2019 and then were added because of these pandemic exceptions on a temporary basis. so the law puts some limits on drop boxes, and the critics can go after that. they're welcome to do that. but it also makes drop boxes a permanent part of georgia's voting architecture which is one thing that the delta ceo cited last week in a statement before he got the backlash that caused him to turn around. on absentee ballots, the issue is how do you make sure the voter who's sending in the ballot is actually who he says he is. the old system was comparing signatures, and there are a lot of reasons on both sides to be skeptical of that. the new system is you cannily with down a state id number on your ballot and that way we know the voter is who he says he is. paul: overall, kyle, this is a more liberal voting law than delaware has, as i understand it. is that a fair summary? >> yeah, in some regards. i mean, you look at new york,

for example. georgia offers far her days of early voting -- far more days of early voting than new york. and as for delaware, delaware does not allow no excuses absentee ballots. if you want an absentee ballot in delaware, you have explain why. there are excused ballots. it's hard, a lot of the debate has taken place with a huge lack of perspective on the fact that georgia offers no excuses absentee ballots and about three weeks of early voting. paul: not just lack of perspective, but also flat falsehoods including by the president of the united states, kim. explain to me what's going on with these ceos, delta, coca-cola. last time i checked they weren't electoral law experts. why are they coming out against this? >> one word, activism of. liberal activism. as you mentioned, or as kyle mentioned, just a week ago most

of these ceos were neutral or even approving of these changes in the bill, and then you had all these people on the left that started piling on and making it very clear that if these companies did not join them in opposing the law, that they were going to be branded racist and supporters of jim crow, suppression legislation. and so suddenly you've seen these, all these executives backtracking. by the way, repeating a lot of those falsehoods. they seem to be ill-informed at best or willfully misexplaininging the law and really putting themselves on the side of a democratic political agenda. paul: and, kim, do you think this is going to have consequences for the ceos politically? >> absolutely. look, smart companies always try to keep both political parties onboard. because you never know when you want some friends. and republicans have been traditional defenders of corporate activity the in washington, and they're losing a lot of interest in helping these

ceos that aren't are showing any spine and are simply rolling over to these activists. paul: dan, it's fascinating, these ceos won't speak out against tax increases, they won't speak out against regulations that affect their direct interests and shareholder value but, oh, they've got something to say about electoral law. what's your take on it? >> well, they're being intimidated by social media which affects them inside and outside their own institutions. and i think they're running a risk of a real backlash from republicans. marco rubio attacked the president of delta this week, said his charges were disgusting. they are disgusting. we all know politics is about democrat versus republican, but here the democrats are raising the extraordinary historically ugly charge that republicans, people who disagree with them, are pushing jim crow laws or are guilty of racism. you know, politics is one thing,

paul, but this is really getting into a kind of gutter that i don't think the american system wants to go into, but they are insisting on it to push through these voter id, these laws like h.r. 1 that they're trying to push through congress. it's really taken. our politics down to a really unprecedentedly low level. paul: all right. thank you, all. just ahead, as more and more states reopen, hiring picks up. we'll break down the latest jobs report with larry kudlow next. ♪ ♪ ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health.

♪♪ paul: the u.s. economy hadding 916,000 new jobs in march, the fastest pace since last summer. with the unemployment rate sliding to 6 president if, the -- 6, the report showing companies again feel confident ability hiring. the news comes on the heels of president biden announcing his more than $2 trillion infrastructure plan with looming tax increases to cover the bill. my next guest has a brand new show on fox business, he's the host of "kudlow." larry kudlow joins me now. larry, congrats on the show, welcome. big jobs report. if you add the restatements for the previous two months, we're talking closer to 3.1 million -- 1.1 million new jobs. is this end of the lockdowns and vaccines, or what else is behind

this? >> first of all, thank you, paul. appreciate it very much. yeah, i think it is. i mean, i think at work in the jobs side, the supply side of the economy, the vaccines are the biggest stimulus. so as we move towards herd immunity rapidly coming on the shoulders of operation warp speed, we're reopening businesses left and right, terrific news. i sure hope it continues. and so you've got over a million jobs, as you noted, and we probably should see a whole string of these improved jobs reports over time. we've got a lot of work to do. probably have to pick up about 8 million jobs in the next year or longer to get back to where we were. but i sure don't think raising taxes across the board, i sure don't think raising corporate taxes and small business taxes and capital gains taxes is the way to go in the next couple

years. i mean, to me it's absolutely the wrong direction. we'll be less competitive. most importantly, we're not going to get the business investment in equipment and factories and technology, we're not going to get productivity, we're not going to get jobs and higher wages if we go on a tax hiking spree. it just doesn't make any sense to me. one of the single biggest california yacht emptors. paul: seems to me these job increases -- not just this month, but also going forward as the economy reopens -- they're baked in. as soon as you've got more people vaccinated, this was going to happen whether or not congress did a single thing. do you agree with that? >> i agree with that fully. absolutely. i've said day in, day out the biggest stimulus out there is thing v.a. seen. vaccine. the vaccine leads to the reopening. the reopening leads to jobs,

wages, family incomes and and all the rest. we did not need $2 trillion, now up to $4.5 trillion the, maybe on our way to $6 trillion if the far left progressives, aoc crowd gets their way, it'll be $10 trillion. we don't need it. we don't need it. paul: there's an argument that some of this spending in the most recent bill, in fact, may actually slow down hiring, and i say that because they give a lot of incentive not to work, the enhanced federal unemployment benefits, for example, a lot of these cents that pay you -- credits that pay you for not working, enhanced food stamp benefits. i'm not saying they shouldn't go to people who are hurting, but increasingly we're hearing all over the country companies saying i can't hire anybody. people don't want to work. are we going to end up with that kind of a disconnect between the demand by employers and actually people willing to work? >> well, we may well. i think it's an important point.

look, one of the tragedies of all this so-called stimulus is that there are no work requirements anymore attached to the social welfare spending. the social welfare spending, first of all, is too large, and it should have been truncated, and it should be with temporary. i believe democrats want to make it permanent. you had this gigantic expanse coming, sort of great society to the tenth power, some such thing. but the point i'm making is i agree with you. the more unemployment insurance you have, the more unemployment you're going to have. so if they keep extending it, which is what they're talking about, the more checks mailed, you know, from the treasury, they keep extending that, but you've got child tax the credit, dependent tax credit. i think you mentioned food stamps. you've got k-12. this, that and the other thing -- [laughter] you know, pays more after tax to stay home, and we don't want that than it does to work. work, to me, i guess it's the

underrated now, for heaven sakes, with this giant welfare state spending being discussed by the democrats. look, work is a virtue. work is a godly virtue. work is the soul of america, climb the ladder of opportunity. i just don't understand this. and more generically, paul, aren't we seeing this group now, the administration and their allies, they want really massive government expansions, central planning? this is the triumph of the washington swamp which is going to become a quagmire and the demise or the reduction in power of the free enterprise private economy? to me, this is all wrong, it's all backwards. all backwards. paul: yeah. i don't think we're going to see the impact for a while because in the near term we're going see this post-pandemic boom. but i want to ask you a question with about the tax increases. if we see $3 trillion in tax increases which looks like

they'll be proposed, why isn't the stock market reacting negatively so far? >> well, that's a good question. it's a key question, and i've asked this of a lot of, you know, stock market experts, so forth, investment strategists, and the best answer i get is that the that the market, yes, either, a, hasn't focused on it and, b, hasn't focused on the probability that it could pass. i'm particularly worried about corporate taxes which benefit the middle class and the blue collars, and i'm particularly worried about the small business taxes where they may take the 20% deduction out, and i'm worried about capital gains taxes. that's all supplyof side, investment side, wage side stuff. paul: right. >> i think the market at the moment, paul, is, either isn't sure or doesn't think this is going to go through or thinks it may be watered down so that it's not significant. i mean, i don't share those optimistic views right now. i think until this passes w,

okay, the market looks good, we're going to have a recovery boom, absolutely. but if and when it does pass -- and i think chances are at least 50/50, paul, that it will pass -- then i think you've got big troubles next year expect year after, probably next year the stock market. and the outyears -- the economy will be are threatened. from a boom to something more like stagnation. paul: all right. larry kudlow, thanks a lot. good to see you. when we come back, president biden unveiling trillions of dollars in new spending. he says it's all about infrastructure. republicans say it's a progressive wish list while the far leavitt says it's not enough -- far left says it's not enough. dan henninger and kim strassel weigh in. ♪ ♪ cerna. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that is scientifically designed to help manage your blood sugar. live every moment. glucerna. challenging times are nothing new.

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anything we've seen or done since we built the interstate highway system9 and the space race decades ago. it's big, yes. finish it's bold, yes. and we can get it done. paul: president biden unveiling a multitrillion dollar spending plan which he claims will rebuild american infrastructure, but some democrats say it's not enough. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez is one of them. she's calling for even more spending well above the already hefty price tag. so how does biden plan on getting this proposal passed, and do we really need all that spending? we're back with dan henninger and kim strassel. so, dan, you look at the details of this, is this really an infrastructure bill, or what else is it? >> well, it depends on the meaning of infrastructure which the biden administration has expanded and made very, very elastic. and the thing to focus on here

is that the bill includes over $400 billion to expand medicaid home services to create and unionize home health care workers. joe biden explicitly argues that home health care is part of america's infrastructure like roads and bridges. well, it isn't really. it should be in a separate bill. so we have to think about, paul, what exactly is the political strategy in mind here? and the president just said he wants to go big. and i think they decided to simply go for broke. historically, liberals have passed legislation like this incrementally, piece by piece. they just sort of build it up over the years, put it in law, make it difficult to repeal. progressives reject that strategy. they want to throw everything but the kitchen sink into these bills and see how much of it sticks, how much of it can be turned into law in the next two years, and then once it becomes

law, the burden would be on republicans to try to repeal it. this opens a pandora rah's box of politics. everybody is going to have complaints, as you suggested, the progressives already say it's not big enough, moderate democrats are worried about the price tag. nonetheless, paul, i think that is the strategy. bulldoze as much as you can into law and worry about the rest later. paul: kim, i want to dig into this question of the meaning of infrastructure a little bit because you and i think of that -- at least i do -- you know, roads, bridges, even broadband you can call, you can include in that, you can include water projects, or things like that that. but there's only $115 billion in this treasure 2 trillion bill -- $2 trillion for roads, highways and bridges. you know, there's $175 billion for electric car subsidies and charging stations. basically, they're redefining infrastructure. >> yeah.

i mean, the entire name of this bill is wrong. this is a climate and democratic spending bill which they've redefined as infrastructure my throwing a tiny bit of infrastructure in it. in addition to some of of those things that you mentioned, there's $215 million for new affordable housing, $100 billion to retrofit public if schools, another $25 billion for childcare centers in addition to the $400 billion for home health care that dan mentioned. that's the bulk of this, along with a lot of new subsidies for green energy, etc. and the reason they're doing this is because that they can call it infrastructure, then they can claim, look, you republicans claim you want infrastructure, why aren't you working with us on this bill? and accusing them of obstructionism even though anybody who even spends ten minutes looking at this understands it's not about infrastructure. the entire name is i don't wron. paul: and on the point dan makes about this $400 billion for home

health workers, isn't that just directly for the service international workers union, kim? that core democratic constituent is gives all of its money to democrats for campaigns. doesn't this just flow right into the dues-paying service workers? >> yeah, absolutely. and all through the bill. the entire bill is designed to be a union payoff. joe biden keeps talking about how this is a jobs bill, this'll put people to work. what he doesn't mention are all these mandates and restrictions. we still have yet to see how democrats institute them in the legislation they write, but all designed to make sure these jobs only go to a job for people who belong to a union. paul: dan, on the tax increases, corporate taxes, we're getting the personal tax increase later, $3 trillion in total. biggest tax increase since 1968.

is it going to pass? >> you know, that really remains to be end seen. as i suggested a moment ago, the politics in going so big can get very complicated, and in the senate ron wyden, the democrat who writes tack bills there, and richard neal in the house ways and means committee have both said they have their own ideas about how to do taxes to pay for this. members of congress from new york and new jersey have said the whole bill is a nonstarter in their mind unless the s.a.l.t., reduction of state and local taxes, is restored for their states because it costs so much for voters in those states. but a lot of democrats realize that the s. apt l.t. deduction, eliminating the s.a.l.t. deduction provides a lot of federal revenue now, to they may

be opposed as well. the politics of taxation are going to get extremely complicated for passing this bill. paul: all right. as many public schools remain closed, some states are moving to give parents more freedom and flexibility other where their -- over where their children move. the latest on what could become a new model for education across the u.s., next. ♪♪ ♪ new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home.

♪♪ paul: more than a year into the pandemic, and school districts across the country are still struggling to get kids back into classrooms. as a result, one idea gaining momentum in several states is school choice. we're back with kim strassel and kyle peterson to break it all down. kim, where are we seeing this progress on school choice? give us some example across the

country. >> yeah. we're seeing it in a number of places. one of the best examples is in west virginia where the governor there just signed a law that would create the first time an educational savings account for kids in the state, probably about $4600 will go boo each account over the next year, and kids will be able to use that to participate in different schooling options other than public schools. your seeing -- you're seeing bills, for instance, in south dakota, kentucky to credit new tax credit scholarship programs or to expand them. these would allow kids to -- private of donations would come in and basically establish funds that allow kids to, again, exercise school choice options. but there are bills also taking place, you know, in arizona and florida, and this is a result of parents fed up with school closures and looking for something new. paul: it's interesting, kyle. kentucky, in particular, the

democratic governor vetoed the administration, but he was overridden this both the house and senate. so strong political momentum here: how much of that is based on the frustration over the unions that are keeping public schools closed in so many places? >> i think a lot of it is based on that. i think a lot of people who thought that the unions were there arguing for the public schools and the public school students have discovered that the unions are doing their job which is to advocate for the teachers, not the students. and it's interesting, there's an associated press analysis that says public school enrollment has fallen by about 500,000 students, and on one hand that's only about 2% of the total, but on the other hand, that's 500,000 more people who are now possibly thinking to themselves, wait a second, why is the local public school getting the money for my kid who's no longer going there? why is that money not coming to me or following the student? and this could be a very good

issue, i think, at a state level for republican politicians and candidates. paul: kim, that's really interesting because you have from the federal government now joe biden is probably the least helpful president for school choice going back before bill clinton. you have to go back to jimmy carter to find a democrat who was as hostile to private and charter schools as carter. but you saw in florida in 2018 that ron desantis, the governor there, as a candidate ran on expanding school choice. that state parents, particularly poor parents, have seen how these scholarship programs work to expand choice, and i think it was a big help for him in that campaign. do you think that logic is political logic and, let's face it, politicians want to get elected, but that's one of the driving forces here too. >> yeah, i was just going to mention that example. i saw a speech once, golf desantis actually -- governor desantis create credited

african-american women who had voted for him on his support of school choice. i think governors all across the states can realize that and use it to their advantage especially with so many parents so unhappy about school closures. and it'll be interesting how they could get inroads in blue states too with this issue. a. paul: yeah. because you've seen private schools, kyle, briefly here, we've seen private schools in massachusetts and to elsewhere stay hope, catholic school even as public schools were shut. >> right. and i checked those number on florida this morning, and it was 18% of black women that voted for ron desantis, and that was a big issue in the campaign. he said he would expand school choice, that he would be against his democratic opponent. it helps if there's some marginal voters they can win over. paul: yeah, that's right. okay. we have to take one more break.

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ask your doctor for a prescription for the freestyle libre 14 day system. and visit freestyle libre.us to try it for free. >> time now for our his and miss of the week kim first to you. >> hit to iowa voters now that democrat reta heart has dropped her bid to get congress to overturn iowa's state election results. ms. heart lost her house race to republican maryann miller meeks and a bipartisan election board certified it and heart went to congress to get mrs. pelosi to overturn and now withdrawn it this is for fairs and honest elections. >> kyle. >> a hit to bill gardner the democratic secretary of state in new hampshire who has come out swinging against hr1, bill in congress to federalize elections.

he says that new hampshire's constitution which predates the u.s. constitution requires voters to show up in person unless they have an excuse requires results to be announced on election night. hr1 would override those provisions and gardner calls it egregious overreach of federal authority. >> all right, dan. >> my miss goes to state of new york whose legislature volted to legalize legal marijuana anywhere you can smoke tbact you can carry around three ounces of tobacco if you want grow marijuana if you want you can grow marijuana plangts at home you can store five pounds of marijuana at home. not clear if that's a week supply or year supply. legislature admits there's a lot to figure out about this law, and they'll get around to it eventually for now ?ork the stunk weed capitol of america. >> remember if you have your own hit or miss tweet it to us at

jer thanks to my panelist and to all of you for watching. i'm paul gigot hope to see you right here next week. ♪ ♪ an investigation getting underway following another deadly attack on capitol hill. president biden luring the white house flag to half-staff also he and the first lady sending their condolences to the family of officer william billy evans of the u.s. capitol police department. officer evans and 18 year veteran of the department was kilted yesterday and a fellow officer injured in a distinct marking second deadlyst upon u.s. democracy three months since the insurrection on capitol building on january 6th. hello everyone welcome to fox news live, i'm arthel neville, hi eric. eric: hello everyone than