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acknowledged by the white house. pray. one nation under god. >> trace: dr. ben carson, always good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >> trace: well, that is "the story" on thursday, may 6, 2021. but as always, the story continues. we'll see you back here tomorrow at 3:00. meantime, "your world" with neil cavuto starts right now. >> neil: the pork is back. lawmakers proposing $6 billion of pet projects in a fox news exclusive. many of these coming from both parties, whether it's millions for smart phones to track buses or close to $500,000 for medication and yoga. millions for pickle ball. nearly a million bucks for distance learning at community college. just one college. not since the days of the shrimp
tread mills have we seen pork barrel spending out of control. the big question is can we afford it? we decided you know what? we're going to get into it. welcome. i'm neil cavuto. this is "your world." we keep track of all the money going in and going out and a lot is going out right now. the argument that we can cover it with new taxes for money coming in doesn't come close to covering all of this. hillary vaughn in the capitol keeping track of these other little extra bits of spending that are already adding up in to the billions of dollars. hillary? >> hi, neil. ear marks coming back to capitol hill means the next budget bill could be served up with a big size of pork because ear marks went away after some of the pet projects a decade ago were considered politically scandalous. today house democrats are leading the comeback and promising to build back trust
among taxpayers to foot the bill for special projects convincing them that congress should spend billions of taxpayer money on projects that not all taxpayers will get to benefit from. that might be a challenge. some of the requests already coming in are a little unique. one request from lawmaker al green in texas, $6.4 million for a gandhi museum. another request, $400,000 to put toilets in a hiking trail in texas. another $400,000 in wisconsin for a cranberry research station. others putting -- other requests are more -- considered more politically scandalous by conservatives that have concerns that they're pushing progressive priorities. one request, $742,000 for a program that features healthy discussions around difficult
issues like racism, cultural bias. over $160,000 requested for the development of an equity and inclusion program at lincoln university in pennsylvania. also $2 million to revamp and remodel two planned parenthood facilities. republicans are putting in the requests, too. one request from chris jacobs in new york that wants $1.2 million to
pay for a trolly and one other request from congressman don young in alaska, $18 million to rebuild a fire station there. neil, these requests are vetted. they're not automatically approved. they're going to have to make the case to the house appropriations committee to convince them that they should be one of the pet projects approved. because there's not unlimited money for this, neil. >> neil: what is interesting
about what you're reporting, hillary, whatever you think of these ear marks, they're down payment that a lot of these congressmen and women get to vote on bigger legislation. this is the cost of that vote. so actually when you look at these measures out there, trillions worth, this is the means by which you secure the votes for that stuff. >> yeah, neil. what is also interesting is the case that democrats have made
for bringing back ear marks is that they think that the white house has held too much of the spending power. they want to put some of that power back in the hands of congress and give them some more control over the purse strings and decide where the money, taxpayer money is actually spent, neil. >> neil: all right. great reporting as always, hillary vaughn in the middle of that. keep in mind the backdrop for this is the price of all of the stimulus measures that are out there under huge umbrellas here. all combined, originally priced
at $6 trillion. we have since seen as people began crunching the numbers that it's actually close to $7 trillion. the measures like this that bring back ear marks to support more, specialized spending can bring it up and up. we have kelsie joining us from the independent women's forum. and when you add the numbers up, they get bigger and bigger. we realize that's the way that washington goes. when they're this big, they get eye popping. what do you think of it? >> it's really incredible, neil. he's -- president biden has been in office a few months now. he's proposed over $6 trillion in new spending. that's with his american rescue plan. his american jobs plan. his american families plan. that doesn't count his budget, which would see a $1.5 trillion
increase over the current budget. so this is a lot of money we're talking about. this of course is just as the economy is getting going again. there's not really any need for this kind of aid. you know, maybe a year ago when the economy was at a standstill. but now? no. when you look at the money is going to. especially in his new bills. it's going to create i think a lot of new unionized workers that will be paying union dues which will be spent to elect more democrats. just in his infrastructure bill, the first one, which is really not a infrastructure bill, $400 billion for new home care workers under medicaid. these people are represented by the service employees international union, which of course supported biden and spent millions to get him and other democrats elected. >> neil: it's a lot of money. we wanted to update you on the $6 trillion figure, which is now $7 trillion because it's moving and changing.
we'll go there some of the more egregious things there. while it focuses what is happening with this congress, the fact of the matter is, this is a pattern built up steam but now it's on steroids. i told you about the smart phone push. that is -- you're talking $3 middle for that. the restorative yoga thing, the pickle ball. but crystal, as a democratic strategist and looking at this, i have to imagine that some of the democratic candidates are getting worried closer to the election that this will come back to bite them. what do you think? >> well, democratic presidents have a history of helping this economy recover after a crisis. we can look at clinton during the 90s. his job creation -- his economic investment created over 22 million jobs in eight years. he invested in people like president biden wants to do,
investing in community college and investing in early childhood education. when we have a more educated work force, our work force is able to complete globally in the global economy. that's what he wants to do. we can also look at f.d.r.'s plan during the new deal. that plan in its first year grew the economy 10%. it grew the second year 8.9%. so spending works. there's a pattern of it -- >> neil: you could be right on that. but i would beg to differ with you that we're not in a crisis given the economic numbers we've been seeing the last few months. some going back to periods that predate president biden. the economy was really picking up steam, considerable steam post the pandemic and still is. so kelsie, you can almost say, all right, whatever your views and politics on this, we can cease and desist, slow down, stop the trillions and let just see the impact of the money that has already been committed.
what do you think? >> absolutely. i think democrats are living in denial about now strong the trump economy was before the pandemic hit. we know the recipe to get us there. it's tax cuts. it's less regulation on business. it's less government spending. all the policies that president biden is pursuing are taking the country in a different direction. nobody if anybody saw the news this week, but u.s. birth rates are at a 40-year record low. we're below our population replacement level. the revenue proposal that biden has proposed with the american families plan, $1.5 trillion, well short of what is actually needed and now we're learning we're not going to have enough babies to pay off all of this borrowed money. >> neil: as long as i can escape
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>> trace: all right. border crossings are booming, but get aload of this. when it comes to deportations, they're not. they're at a record low. what gives? chad wolf is the former acting dhs secretary. secretary, i have never seen a chasm like this in monthly data. what do you make of it? >> well, neil, what i will tell you, i'm not sure the numbers are that surprising for those of us that follow it. that's what happens when you tie the hands of law enforcement. arrests go down and deportations go down. what the biden administration did in the early days of the administration in january, issued guidance to ice, law enforcement, really restricting them on who are the types of individuals that they can target for removal. so now under that guidance, you have to be a terrorist or a
suspected terrorist or you have to be a convicted felon, aggravated felon. that takes about 80 to 90% of all the targets off the table for ice law enforcement officers. so you see the result of that in the data, the numbers that you just showed. numbers and arrests and deportations are down across the board. >> neil: what is odd about this, there was a time when barack obama was president that some groups called him the deporter in chief and didn't like the rate in which he deported those that crossed the border or at the border. his vice president at the time supported that effort. now he's president of the united states. he is not continuing that effort. i wonder what you make of that. >> well, a couple of things. i think what is most concerning is obviously we see the situation going on at the border not enforcing the rule of law on the border. now we are also seeing them not enforcing the rule of law in the
interior of the united states. these are individuals that ice comes across, targets or comes into contact with. these are individuals that have no legal right to remain here in the u.s. most cases they've gone through adieu process and ordered to be removed. so ice is effectuating that order. for the biden administration and officials at dhs to tell them to ignore the law, it put laws enforcement officers in a very, very dicey situation where they have to choose between their career and following that advice or adhering to the rule of law and what they signed up to do to enforce the law. >> neil: we do know that the vice president, kamala harris, intends to go to mexico to get what she says is the start and what causes the root causes of this. part of that will involve giving
billions to that neck of the woods. talking beyond mexico, central america. we don't know all the details yet, secretary. we know enough that a lot of money will be involved. i'm wondering whether that will do the trick. are you worried it's good money after bad? >> i'm certainly concerned. i think you certainly need to put a number of strings attached to that funding. you can't provide it to them without any return on invest meant for the u.s. that's what we did under the trump administration. we held them accountable for doing the things that they said they would do with the funding. at the end of the day, we signed 14 different security agreements with them. but that alone is not going to do it. so the idea and the strategy that i'm looking at the biden administration is encouraging mexico and the northern triangle to do more to enforce their borders. yet they're not enforcing law on our southwest border, on our own border that is concerning.
that you'll continue to see numbers that we saw in march and we see in april, continue to come across that border if we don't enforce the rule of law on the border. you can do all you want and you can provide funding to the northern triangle. if you're not going to hold people accountable, those numbers will continue to come. >> neil: all right. chad wolf, thanks very much. the former acting dhs secretary. we've got a couple other developments we're following, the whole job search issue for so many businesses, particularly fast food, restaurants in general. i want you to meet one that decided to offer 500 bonuses to come to work for them after this. (naj) at fisher investments, our clients know we have their backs. (other money manager) how do your clients know that? (naj) because as a fiduciary, it's our responsibility to always put clients first. (other money manager) so you do it because you have to? (naj) no, we do it because it's the right thing to do. we help clients enjoy a comfortable retirement.
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>> neil: all right. you know, a lot of restaurants have had a devil of a time finding workers. a variety of reasons. most with extended benefits and going to work for some no matter the pay doesn't compete with the benefits, especially the federal add-ons. we have a restaurant owner that had a novel idea. how about if i pay you $500? will you come them? what kind of response are you get something. >> thanks for having me, neil. a big fan of the show. unfortunately we offered the $500 bonus and at this time we have had two applicants come in to apply for it. we did hire them because we're so short on staff, we have no choice. >> neil: what do you pay an hour? >> well, depends on the
different jobs. you know, we offered this for the back of the house, from line cooks to dishwashers it ranges from $13 an hour to $20 something an hour. unfortunately i'm a small business owner. it just doesn't take a genius to realize that this is not a political issue. it's not a science issue. it's really an economic problem that needs to be fixed. i'm not sure if the viewers understand, you know, that the florida unemployment at $300, the federal government gives you $300, that's $600 tax-free. so in order for us to compete with the federal government and with the state, we would have to offer $18 an hour in order to net the same amount. it just doesn't make sense. we're competing with our own government. these individuals aren't paying
in to the system. this money is tax-free. if they were working, they would be paying their taxes in to the system, which would help those that really need it. >> neil: when i crunch the numbers myself, might differ in florida, so you know, if you've got state benefits and you have federal benefits on top of that, it would be the equivalent of earning over $21 an hour. the fact of the matter is, that is a lot to compete with for you. so even the $500 bonus, tempting as though it sounds, you can see why you're running into trouble with people taking you up on it. what is the next step? >> you can't blame individuals for wanting to stay home and collect the money. we created this issue during a time that we were going through a pandemic. but the reality is, florida is open for business. we are booming. there's two ways to fix this
problem. i love what the governor of montana did recently when he stopped the federal aid. i think that's one way of solving this problem. the other way of solving the problem is number 2, which would be to enforce the rules when it comes to unemployment. they must go out and look for a job five times a week. if they get offered a job, they have to take the job. the unemployment benefits are for those people that cannot find a job. not for those that just don't want to work. i think that's the big difference. you know, people here in florida, we're not lazy. they want to work. it's got to make sense. if you're getting $600 tax-free, why would you want to go to work 40 hours a week if you're making $100 more, you're still working the 40 hours. so it just doesn't make any practical sense. doesn't make any common sense. i'm hoping that our great
governor of florida, he will look out for the best interests of everyone and what is best for florida is getting everybody back to work. >> neil: you got a boom going on. a booming business. so the irony is, because of the boom and having workers to address it, you can't. you're in a catch 22. please keep us posted on this. you have a fight on your hands but a lot of loyal customers as well. a very good reputation. in the end, that will come out. >> thanks. i appreciate you listening to me. >> neil: no, thank you very much. in the meantime, i want to let you know about the president's trip to louisiana. he's trying to woo the two republican senators including bill cassidy. i wonder how that worked. i'll ask senator cassidy. he's next. traded with a touch. the gold standard, so to speak ;)
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he was in the state to drum support for the infrastructure program. he thinks he can win over senator cassidy and the state's other republicans, senator john kennedy. senator cassidy is kind enough to join us on the phone right now. first of all, thanks for being here. how did it go when you talked to the president? >> the president is always nice. one thing -- he pitched his infrastructure plan. of course, republicans want to double the amount of the money and spent a fourth as much. ours is a better plan. there's common ground. we can get infrastructure. we think we have a better plan. >> neil: now, your plan, the overall plan is north of $600 billion and targeted for infrastructure only. did you get any behind that he was open to that? >> i think the president mentioned some project that may
not be included in ours. but nothing was like nonnegotiable. again, our plan spends twice as much money and spends a quarter as much. we could add things for energy which he is concerned about, and so am i and have a reasonable bill that would be less than 50% of what they're spending. >> neil: you know, there's a move in the middle of this to sort of recalculate all of the president's initiatives, which if you include it for families and kids and education, infrastructure, it was originally around $6 trillion, now north of $7 trillion, this is a backdrop with the house, removing the ban on ear marks or all but removing them, this looks like a situation that could get out of control. just the spending part of it. what will happen?
>> neil, you think? already we're seeing inflation, which annualized at the current rate would be the highest inflation we've had in some time. so i think the spending they're contemplating, if it's for infrastructure, it will be great. if it is for something besides infrastructure and just floods the economy with more money, we're going to be battling inflation. that's why i think republicans have a better plan. >> neil: so when you talk about infrastructure itself, senator and the president and you and republicans and democrats in general are quite far apart, 2.25, 2 trillion mark on that and you're at the $650 billion mark on that, but if he were to push for a bipartisan deal that would urge republicans to raise taxes to pay for that and not user fees and some of these things that he says wouldn't come close, would you be open to that? >> the taxes that he's talking
about will not come close to it. so if you pair it down to a range of which republicans find reasonable, i think you can do it without raising taxes. if you have to, let's talk about what taxes they are. in you're speaking about what he's talking about, you're clearly going to have to raise taxes and you still won't pay for it. which is one more reason why i think republicans have a better plan. >> neil: senator, in the house next week, they're debating the future of liz cheney. she could be out for speaking out against the president and the election, the big lie as he calls it. she calls his response to it the big lie. what do you think of that if she's forced out of her job? >> you know, however it is interpreted among the house members, it will be interpreted by the general public that she's being forced out because of her position on president trump. now, there's about 25% of republicans according to a recent poll that actually agree strongly with her.
if we're going to appeal to everybody, those that support the president and those that don't, then we have to -- each side has to see their view and listen to it. i support liz but i also think if we're going to win in 2022, we have to consider that very strongly. >> neil: some of your colleagues are very worried about the trump rants. to challenge him is to be done in by him. what do you think? >> i think the only route we have to be concerned about is the route of voters that feel that they're not heard. if we hear, we will win. it's not about one person. it's about the individual voter. as i mentioned, there's about 25% of folks that strongly agree with liz in the republican party. they need to be heard, too, if we're going to do well in 2022. >> neil: senator bill cassidy,
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>> neil: all right. a lot of the big cruise lines are optimistic that they will be able to be back operating in business maybe later this summer. no guarantee. the cdc has been inconsistent on that. alaska doesn't have time to waste. the cruise season is crucial. it's good for four or five months tops. time is running out now. there's no ships setting sail now. in the middle of that, what is normally a very busy port in alaska. >> it is normally busy, neil. every day of the week, feels like we do a story in some part of the country in the economic
rebound. and the cruise industry maybe getting going by the summer. here in alaska, it's more complicated the way the law is written. foreign ships can't go directly between two u.s. ports. most of the ships are registered offshore, they're foreign ships. they would normally make a stop in canada but can't do that now because of covid restrictions. i spoke to lisa murkowski about the economic impact. >> if you look at the state of alaska and our revenue loss from last year, we're number 1. number 1 in the country. that's nothing to be proud of. over a 30% loss in revenue last year as a state. >> in port cities like this one, seward, it's severe. murkowski's bill to get around it is stalled in congress. even if you head inland, we i
have it'd with a company called k2 aviation. >> there's a lot of independent bookings. we're actually -- our independent backings are up from 2019. that won't replace all of the business by any stretch. >> therein lies the problem. a beautiful place to visit. doesn't get much better than this. some people are willing to come in by plane, the cruise business is the backbone for so long. so many small businesses rely on it. looks like they'll have another tough summer with little activity, neil. >> neil: amazing. connell mcshane in alaska. guys all over the country and all over the world. we'll have the norwegian cruise line, frank del rio. he led the effort to make sure that every passenger on board his ship as well as everyone working on the ship is fully
vaccinated. he's been very aggressive of that and reminded by the cdc about that. and signs that the cdc was impressed by that that they have all but green lighted cruises. his thoughts in his neck of the woods for norwegian tomorrow. meantime, we have a doctor joining us from johns hopkins university. doctor, there's this sort of split read on when you can resume life, so to speak. different strokes for different folks when it goes to cruising and where. i'm wondering if that is sending mixed signals to the general public. what do you think? >> definitely is mixed signals going on. one of the most important points to remember, if you're fully vaccinated, you've waited for the j&j dose and moderna does, you reclaim your life. it's going to be cautious and
take baby steps but the steps will be in the right direction. i tell my patients in my own life, to try to reclaim what you've put on hold for over a year now. you'll see cities and states getting vaccinated as we see cases fall and we removed the ability of this virus to threaten hospitals. be. >> neil: doctor, i never want to look so promising developments and poo-poo them. all of these are all great, great things. and i hope they continue. i see what is going on in india and in other countries where the spikes are happening, nothing like obviously the tragedy of india and i wonder is there any threat of those variants coming here? >> you have to assume these variants are already here, including one in india. it was found in iowa. what is important to remember
about the variants is, they might be more contagious. when you're fully vaccinated, they don't cause serious disease and death. the problem is to vaccinate as fast and broadly as you can. we need to get more people vaccinated in the united states so the variants don't pose a problem. i don't think they will. we have the high risk populations heavily vaccinated but we want to get as high a level as possible so there's no concern and no disruption from the variants and the virus. we are around about a third of the u.s. population fully vaccinated. i'd like to see over 40% like israel and then a precipitous decline in cases. >> neil: thanks, doctor. johns hopkins university infectious disease specialist. more coming up including what is happening right now with voting laws that are taking effect or pondering taking effect in various states. you know the drill. georgia comes up with one, corporations pounce.
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changing the voting laws there. the immediate impression is it's limiting voting, racist and all that. companies pounced on that. some of these companies already saying that they don't like that. they haven't seen anything that is coming out of texas on this measure as much as they didn't see out of georgia. be that as it may, it's a familiar theme where companies gather, make pronouncements and have to live with the consequences. a lot of it can be backlash. a lot of people get annoyed they're weighing in on anything like this or any issue like this. christian, tom and giana is here. let's start with you, giana. we don't know the details about texas. we know a lot of companies are making the case that they don't like what they're hearing. what do you say? >> yeah, we're talking about 49 bills that have been filed this year in texas. so the truth be told, at this
point, especially in georgia when companies see the election integrity bills and make a fuss, quite frankly, after georgia and after the facts came out and after people began to rave how it wasn't disenfranchising people, companies like american express and others pulled back and said hey, maybe everybody should come to the table, which is what they should have said in the beginning or not said anything at all. at this point people are doing shouting and screaming when there's no details to scream about. come to a compromise bill. we have to protect our election integrity and move on. shouldn't be a partisan issue. >> neil: it will be that, tom. i'm wondering what the corporate impact is on the corporations that decide to take a stand in depending on your board of view, might be ramifications for that as well. what do you think? >> well, i think the
ramifications could being is enough can't. you've seen mitch mcconnell, ted cruz saying you know, stay out of this or we're going to stop supporting you, going to call for boycotts and the like. you've certainly seen among, you know, conservatives boycotting companies and other things in response to this. i agree with giana. it shouldn't be a partisan issue. the problem is you have on one side, you have the democrats and the media and corporations that are literally resistant to anything that would -- any sort of election integrity reform. they're framing it as if it's a right-wing effort to suppress the vote. a lot of these things quite frankly the public overwhelming majority agree with, like having to show an i.d. when you show up at the polls. that's not something that is a radical idea. even that is now seen in a
partisan light. >> neil: kristin, it's seen in a harsher racist light. i'm curious as a democratic strategist, to you see a form of i.d. to vote as racist? >> i don't necessarily have that piece that i agree with the panelist earlier that there should be ways to come together on this. i think texas with some of the bills like sb 71 went far which allows poll watchers to film voters and limiting polls places in large urban communities. to the corporate side, it's a very interesting thing to see actually. you know, i work with a lot of fortune companies. this isn't new. you saw in indiana with the anti-lgbt stuff, there was blow-back there with companies based in indianapolis, this isn't new. so you have large companies with leaders and ceos and these large companies do good work. we've seen it through covid. they do good work in their
communities. they have become more involved in like the social impact of what they're doing. so it's not surprising that not just their employees and some of these companies have tens of thousands of employees and their surrounding communities see them as leaders and want toe no what they think about this. the pressure is there and -- >> i have -- >> neil: i can see your point. i wonder if it goes a step too far and these companies that take harsh measures like major league baseball pulling out of atlanta for the all-star game, when they're found not to have actually read the bill at hand that they read later. do they like, giana, like they're posturing because it comes back to bite them. >> what we saw after george floyd, companies saw value in aligning themselves with these particular issues. they saw if uber eats, if they
have a black owned section, cuber eats would support them. they see a marketing advantage to say hey, we spoke out, whether it's factually correct or not. they see dollar signs. the problem is, they're going to get folks that are going to say i disagree with this particular company speaking out when the facts are not the same. they're going to get backlash from this, especially if they continue to raise their voices on issues and there's no facts to discern. there's no bill in texas to even negotiate at this point. there's 49 bills. which bill are you talking about? what does it do? we don't know. that's the problem with companies jumping out and making a stink on something when they know nothing about. >> can i -- >> neil: i do want to hear from you, kristin but i did want to get this other subject in. i want your reaction as well. first to tom of this comment we heard out of senator bill
cassidy of louisiana on the liz cheney situation and he regrets what's going on. he thinks a lot that liz shouldn't lose her leadership position and worried about the party, the republican party. what do you make of that? how bad a schism is this, tom? how bad could this get? >> well, i don't know how dire it is. certainly it's always a situation when particularly republicans are willing to criticize other republicans, they become a big story. liz cheney, that is what this is about. it's less about her vote on impeachment. there's plenty of other republicans that voted for impeachment. she didn't suffer any consequences from that. but it was the way she went about that, releasing the statement before the vote in subsequent weeks instead of smoothing things over. she kept going out and kept criticizing republicans and i think that really rubbed folks the wrong way. that's not what her job is as
conference chair. so she's not really doing the job that she had been elected to do there in the republican -- as conference chair in the republicans. so that is what caused the schism that we're seeing now. i'm not sure it's -- it's not as dire as it's been painted to be, that this is a schism that will split the republican party. it's not that. >> neil: i just wonder, talk about calling names. the president is fine for call names, liz cheney and these others and mcconnell. doesn't go the other way around. that does confuse me. christian, one of the things that they talk about, the parties with the divisions, the democratic party is with that -- it's super progressive wing pushing up the cost of these programs. even changing the president's view on bringing refugees into this country and making them citizens eventually. i'm wondering, is that the democrats' problem? many are looking at the mod term
and saying that will cost us at the polls? whatever republicans are doing, whether it's the trump party or not, the democrats have that to deal with? what do you think? >> we have a lot to deal with. one thing i was going to say, the assertion that the companies don't know what is in these bills, i didn't agree with. sorry for the interruption. we have a lot of challenges on the democratic side going into the mid-terms. the messages on the republican side, we saw it will continue to be that we're all socialists. that won't stop no matter what we do. i think you have always got the faction on the left of our caucus. there's a significant number of people in the middle that are growing to continue to fight for i think on the infrastructure package, a bipartisan compromise. there's such narrow margins. the house won't do anything that the senate can't pass. we have a lot of challenges.
redistricts will be a challenge. it's not just one thing. we have to get our ground game together now that covid is passing. so there's a lot of stuff, a lot of challenges that we have ahead. >> neil: all right, guys. final word on that we'll see. fighting is systemic in this country. it's not an awful thing. it's historic. it's a routine thing. that will do it here. see you tomorrow. >> it's true, america is is turning the corner on the pandemic, infections are way down. almost 150 million americans have gotten at least one dose of the vaccine and the economy is starting to backp