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to object to this commission which happens to be the democratic side. it's also true the gop is deflecting the commission must examine the important but unrelated issue of left-wing urban violence. there's another story, new york attorney general announcing probe, no new facts but media speculation. the connecting story is the former president. biden boresome is unbreakable. i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz. ♪ ♪ ♪ howie: on the buzz meter, we will focus on cnn's chris cuomo who apologized for privately advising brother andrew cuomo on
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calls. refusing to do interviews with white reporters. i will talk to the washington post sally quinn for so long a symbol of dc social scene with husband ben bradley, she calls all the glitzy parties a waste of time. the house passed to create the january 6th commission as kevin mccarthy said other investigations would achieve the same goal. >> those who participated and caused it should be held accountable and we secure this capitol and we don't play politics. i just think that a pelosi commission is playing politics. >> lead pipes across the head and we can't get bipartisanship. what else has to happen in this country. >> the pundits are at war and piling on mccarthy. >> why are they against it? because it's a farce, it's a complete farce.
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it's partisan, that's how. it's fake. don't play along with the fraud. >> whatever courage and leadership mccarthy showed that day, now appears gone. overtaken by cynical political calculation. never even really tried to hide very much. >> the same guy who was essential to shaking benghazi leads. now not so interested in investigation. per i was one of the first people to call for a commission but after watching the democrats day after day, hour after hour it's obvious they cannot be trusted in any, way, shape, more than or form to conduct new fair hearing whatsoever. >> join to go analyze the coverage jason chaffetz, former republican congressman and mara
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liasson. jason: i do think it's a legitimate story. i happened to believe that kevin mccarthy was right. i would not have voted for this. nevertheless, john who was leading the negotiation for the republicans, i think, made the bill better. i think he's a serious congressman from new york. former u.s. assistant -- u.s. attorney, assistant u.s. attorney in syracuse in the crime division and i think there are a lot of thoughtful members who voted for it and a lot of thoughtful members who voted against it because of the partisan nature the way nancy pelosi is doing it and republicans have to expand it to look at some of the other violence that's going on around the country namely portland and that was -- that was just shut off. it wasn't even considered. howie: right. we will come back to that. mara, do you agree with my take
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that the liz cheney ouster being over led to media vacuum and became pressed fixation but ultimately about donald trump, called the idea of the a democrat trap? >> well, look, the problem with the media is that it has 24 hours to fill it and it oftentimes doesn't have enough stuff to fill it. if you want to talk about a vacuum, donald trump left a vacuum in many ways. this is a legitimate story. john cadco was told to get certain concessions around this commission at a time when kevin mccarthy seemed more open to the commission than he is now and cadco got those and then all of a sudden mccarthy changed his mind. the coverage has been pretty straight on mccarthy said on genuine sixth and what he told
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donald trump on january 6th. the big tent is that donald trump has to be inside tent and he doesn't want a january 6th commission. that part i get. that was covered immediately. howie: the concessions so the viewers know included sharing between parties as far as appointments. >> yeah. howie: you served with kevin mccarthy. he's getting the worst media pounding of his career for opposing the commission and pundits are pointing out that such a panel might subpoena the house minority leader over conversation with donald trump that day during the riot. are those fair questions for journalists to ask? jason: if they are moving forward with the commission which did pass, we will see what happens over in the senate but i got to tell you, i think it is a legitimate question you will
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have to get to the heart of it. the media won't pay any attention to that but she's ultimately in charge of capitol hill. she's the one who is part of the commission that oversees the capitol hill police. there's a lot of questions about the use of the national guard, the non-use of national guard and there's questions about intelligence failures. all of that goes to the leader of the house of representatives and the leader of the senate but the questions has to be asked of nancy pelosi as well. how huh my own view of this thing, absolutely dead in the senate once mitch mcconnell said he was going to keep an open eye. you need 60 votes. i don't think it's going anywhere. what about the point that jason made earlier, is it a deflection or legitimate argument, we have to look at urban violence and liberal roots. i'm not minimizing the importance of that but kind of unrelated to january 6th.
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>> the question is whether it should be an investigation into january 6th. january 6th is an event onto itself. there are other ways to investigate january 6th other than a bipartisan commission which i agree with you is not going to happen because mitch mcconnell doesn't want it to happen. benghazi was not a bipartisan commission and that went on for 11 months, so there are ways that congress who is normal or standing committees and something they have to fall back on -- >> howie: go ahead. jason: i was going to say benghazi started -- i was the one that signed the letter of preservation to secretary clinton and they didn't preserve documents and destroyed documents. there were subpoenas issued that weren't fulfilled and communication equipment that was destroyed and we went after the department of defies to ask for after-action reports and they
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said there was none and only after all after that and deception and outright ignoring subpoenas that the commission actually started. howie: jason, let me start in. >> it wasn't a commission. howie: congressional hearings. >> yeah. howie: i don't want to minimize benghazi, that benefited the republicans against hillary clinton politically. is the press now ignoring -- >> as kevin mccarthy said in an interview. howie: is the press, jason, ignoring the fact that this commission no question about it be a benefit to the democrats politically? >> yes. i think that's why there's a lot of republicans that ultimately voted against it because they believe it's a tool and there are lots of committees that are looking at it. my point with benghazi we started at the committee process, it was only after we found subpoenas were ignored, documents were destroyed that it
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rose to the level of having it going to the next level and having a special committee set up. howie: mara, what happens in the building two blocks from here, on january 6th was a horrifying attack on democracy. it was an awful trauma for the country i would say, but the press mainly seems to skip over the argument that the justice department has already brought charges against more than 2500 people and senate committee has been investigating and the republicans argue who needs another investigation. i don't see that point of view getting a lot of media exposure. >> yeah, that may be the most legitimate argument against it meaning it's going to be investigated by many different entities and it's not going to be swept under the rug. i think that the desire of republicans to kind of move on, to kind of get focused on the 2022 election and focus on the argument against the democrats, i understand that politically.
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but january 6th, i don't think was something that you can ignore or pretend that it was a tourist event that got out of hand. this was a violent, mob, trump supporters, you can argue it was egged on by the president or not, but there has never been an attack on our democracy like this. so i don't think it's something that you can just ignore, but, yeah, i agree, there are other ways to investigate. howie: the cable news bank eted the story because they need a trump narrative to get the numbers up? jason: yes. i think the media desperately misses donald trump. he drives ratings and he drives clicks and they need donald trump in order to get ratings up for some of the stations. howie: donald trump, mara, puts out releases that are sent to reporters and ripped 35 house defects or as weak. president biden is doing all kinds of things. he helped prod netanyahu and
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when you talk trump, everything gets excited, polarized and television like that. >> well, if you live in front of a television set, sure. but if you read the newspapers it seems like the middle east was the main story this week. donald trump and his statements was not on the front page. so i think, you know, there are a lot of different media worlds and one of them need to fill up the vacuum with a lot of punditry but there are things that happened. howie: i've seen stories about this and next topic but more space for other things. ahead chris cuomo apologizing for privately advising his brother in that sexual harassment probe. when we come back, are the media hyping a change in status for the new york investigation of
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howie: it was a brief press release from new york's democratic attorney general latisha james changing trump civil probe to criminal. >> it's a dramatic thing. we've never had a former president under criminal investigation ever. >> i'm shot sure why you announced we are now investigating him for criminal -- to your investigation bring the charges or don't bring the charges. >> the president was wailing today like a man saw crime -- sl investigation. >> democratic politician sees an
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opportunity to get on something that may be benefit to her. howie: ag campaigned on prosecuting donald trump before she knew anything about me. jason, the manhattan district attorney was already conducting a criminal probe involving the trump organization having to do with bank loans and tax matters. state attorney general was conducting civil probe on many of the same things and now they are joining forces. is that a big enough deal hour after hour of dramatic coverage in certain cable news networks? jason: this is a path we've been doing before. donald trump has had more political animus than anybody imagined. they haven't been able to find anything. i think it's a story about nothing. i think donald trump is exactly right. it's an investigation in search of a crime. it hasn't led to anything in the last 4 and a half years, 5 years. i don't think it's going to go anywhere but i think it's just somebody saying, hey, give me
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attention, give me attention. howie: i'm not going to get the analogy. the president has no new evidence here, no report of subpoenas, for example, some of the pundits and legal analysts on other cable news channels seem so excited. >> look, i agree with you. look, there's no doubt that cable news has a trump obsession syndrome and he was great for ratings and he was kind of like a train wreck or car wreck that you had to slow down and watch all of the time. we don't know whether this criminal probe, what it will result in. i agree with joe scarborough, charge the guy if you're going to do that. plus investigations are always politicized. rudy giuliani use today arrest people and put them in handcuffs, charges were dropped.
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howie: perp walks. >> yeah. the criminal justice is a grinding process. let's see if there are charges and what the charges are. howie: jason, i will let you respond to have car wreck analogy but reminds of media anticipation to bring russia investigation, wait till next week more stuff will come out. he's a private citizen now so the rules are different. so many pundits want to see donald trump dragged into a courtroom. jason: well, this is why half of the country, more conservative side of the country thinks it's unfair. the department of justice doesn't playing on equal playing field. roger stone, seriously, really. that doesn't seem fair. there's no balance to it and i think america is tired with the idea, oh, we are investigating
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donald trump. he's been investigated for nearly 5 years and they haven't come up with anything. howie: i do have to add that roger stone got a presidential pardon. mara, report in new york times saying there's a probe of cfo of the trump investigation over tax allegations because he would flip as a witness, that would not be good as the president. >> yeah, that's what criminal defense attorneys say it's important and something to batch. as i said, this is a grinding process and to make a huge deal out of every twist and turn can distort it. let's see if he flips and if charges come out of that. howie: criminal investigations are supposed to be conducted in secret but there are the inevitable leaks. jason chaffetz and mara liasson. the mayor of chicago are only talking to black and latino reporters right now. a look at the backlash against
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howie: chicago mayor lightfoot is no longer to talking to white reporters. the mayor released a letter calling out the overwhelming whiteness of chicago media outlets and press corp. and only now talking to black and latino reporters. joining us on this subject clarence page, clarence, wall street journal editorial calls this overracism. what do you think of colory lightfoot picking the fight, i'm not giving interviews to anybody who is not a minority journalist. >> i thought it was oddly timed and seemed to bear all the signs of a stunt at a time we have
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much more urgent news in chicago like violent crime rate, her relations with the unions, our schools, et cetera. and so it's -- i do want to clarify for folks out there, this was a one-day policy coinciding with second anniversary in office that she decided to do this and, in fact, our own city hall reporter greg pratt who is ahead of the tribune gill and is the child of a mexican immigrant refused to vow to those conditions and withdrew and had been accepted by state hall. howie: he cancels in solidarity with white colleagues. this came up in a news conference with mayor lightfoot. >> are you implying that white reporters cannot do a fair job of covering you?
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>> the fact that the city hall press corp. is overwhelmingly white has very little in the way of diversity is an embarrassment. howie: clarence, you seem to agree with the democratic mayor that there's a diversity problem, press including but couldn't she have done that on this day i'm only going the talk to journalists of color. >> well, yeah. i'm not going the take any exclusion. i've been a tribune staffer on and off and we have only had a chance not just in chicago but across the country of media hiring. you know that more than anybody else and the social media associations still frustrated that our newsroom are less diverse than the general working
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population. that's a good idea but as i said, it's a distraction right now. she comes late to this and she should have ore hundred data straight. there was no women, minority women covering city hall. in fact, public radio station, 3 city hall reporters and two happened to be women of color and also just the whole idea of this really puts pressure not so much pressure out there but it gets people talking about the issue and that's the most positive thing i can say about it. howie: it does seem to me she's unhappy overall with coverage and it's not unusual of a mayor in local press corp. and canceled subscription over a leaked story. i don't see the need why she dragged race into the context.
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we appreciate you coming on clarence. >> always a pleasure, howie. howie: why cnn isn't defending chris cuomo after his disclosures of him doing damage control for his brother and up next sally quinn. it would be cool to ride a horse on the moon.
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i never intended for that. i would never intend for that and i am sorry for that. howie: joining us now from connecticut is charlie gasparino, senior correspondent and on fox business network. charlie, anyone who knows the family as i do, you know chris well, know the brothers are closed. they talk every day and chris cuomo will give private advice to his brother. is there a distinct between that and hopping on a bunch of damage control calls with pr people, lawyers, outside folks and even cnn in a statement said that was inappropriate. charlie: let's just back up a minute. at some point you have to say was the viewer harmed in the controversy, did chris cuomo hide something from the viewer while he was doing a report about his brother or reporting on his brother? were the viewers damaged by the conflict of interest? let's be clear here. the viewer wasn't.
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there's full disclosure by the fact his last name was cuomo. chris cuomo wasn't covering the story at all. the viewer really want harmed in this. it's hard for me to like put this into scandal category. that being said, i think he made a huge mistake by being on the call. it's just -- you just don't want to be part of the official apparatus of the governor of new york's office, it's not kosher from a journalism standpoint. by the way, he wouldn't be the first person to make that mistake. howie: it was a series of calls. by the way, likelihood with a bunch of people on the line is it's going the leak out. i give chris cuomo credit for apologizing, was the right thing to do. what do you make of the rather narrow wording of the apology which was mainly by putting his cnn colleagues in a bad spot as opposed to the substance of what he did on those calls? charlie: well, because that's really what he did if you think about it. the substance of this scandal is
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pretty new. again, you to ask yourself, listen, i have every incentive to bash them, they are the competitors but i'm just trying to think rationally here and objectively. if i'm the viewer, did i get harm in any way because chris cuomo was on the calls and i don't think you can say that. i think what it did it put colleagues in a bad place because he's part of the official apparatus of a significant government official. i know it's his brother and let's be real clear. as you said earlier, he's going to give his brother advice and he shouldn't have been on the call. it puts him way too close to part of the official line, putting cnn in essential way too close on the governor's official line on a pretty significant scandal that may cost him his job. who knows. there's an investigation going on. howie: there's no official investigation. cnn wants to mover on. when the washington post broke the story, there were series of calls and gave him a wrist lap because he did not defend what
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he did and you keep saying it's new, one women group is calling for suspension. is there a different standard? what if it was a low-level employee? charlie: would the media be cutting me a break? i look at this simply, i look at it was the viewer harmed in any way and the viewer really wasn't. it does harm the reputation of cnn in some degree. howie: let's go back a little bit and look at this in a broader way. cnn made the first blunder more than a year ago when it lifted a ban on chris cuomo interviewing his brother at all and a dozen appearances, the giant nasel swab and allowing chris to praise his brother in the pandemic and when thing turned
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rougher for the new york governor, when he was under scrutiny for undercounting the number of home deaths and spade of sexual harassment allegations, we are putting the ban back on. is there an optics problem especially that chris is an opinion guru teenly bashing donald trump and republicans on prime time show? charlie: listen, i think cnn does a good job covering andrew cuomo's controversies. it's clear that they are staying away from it. obviously we are covering it. i just look at that narrowly on this once instance. is this instance the scandal to have century, this one thing that he did getting on the call and i would say because the viewer really wasn't harmed by this, it's not. wrist slap, no doubt. howie: let me move you to the broader question at&t spinning off cnn3 years after buying it
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and warner media. new company being formed with discovery networks. was the acquisition a mistake and what does it mean for jeff? he's a pal of discovery chief david, is he more likely to say? charlie: when i first reported that they could be for sale, cnn, people thought i was nuts. i just want to take the victory lap. jeff can stay. i think david has a lot of respect for him. the question is does mr. zucker want to say. the question is -- i think this is the forward-looking way of looking at this. cnn is a hot button. there's no doubt. do they want to be -- disney company want to be really associated with something this really hot button, something that republicans get into office, the whole controversy of cnn's bias -- alleged bias against republicans and conservatives is going to come
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out and how does that work in a corporate setting. we should point out that this is a new company. at&t owned 70% of it and associated with something that a lot of republicans in washington think -- considers democratic prop. when you have something that this hot button, i can see cnn being spun off. howie: cnn has a lot of corporate owner since founded. thanks for coming on. charlie: you got it. howie: cnn dropped rick santorium.
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incredible. after the break, the washington post sally quinn, known in part for fabulous georgetown parties. why she no longer carries about the dc social scene of doing wha, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. ♪ usaa ♪
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howie: if there's anyone who symbolized the washington social circuit a journalist who threw parties in georgetown home, it's sally quinn, long time reporter
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and columnist who hosted left the life, quote, i didn't want to be part of social scene. somehow it all felt superficial and unimportant and waste of time. what i once thought was a glamorous and exciting life filled with power and celebrity no longer had any appeal to me and washington post contributor sally quinn joins us now. you're now saying the dc social circuit wasn't all that glamorous, did that thought ever occur to you when you were throwing the a-list bashes and making the rounds? [laughter] >> well, not at my bashes but i didn't consider them a list. you know, there's a lot of going out in washington that is superficial and, you know, it's a power grab in some way and, you know, there were lots of
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nights when i would get dressed up and put on my makeup and curl my eyelashes and put high-heel shoes and moan all the way to the party i was going to and then come home, why was that, why did i do that, i could have stayed home and read a book and watched a series. howie: you're saying it was work, hard work? >> no, no, it was work. yeah, it was a job. i think a lot of people who go to these things think it's a job and that's one reason why so many people in the past couple of administrations haven't gone and one of the things i was saying in this administration particularly after trump and particularly after covid in the biden administration. most of the people in his administration have been in the white house before. they've worked for the presidents and they've seen the circumstance. howie: they don't need to impress anybody? >> they don't need to impress anybody. they don't need to go out and
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not only that but they are working 24/7 because they probably got two years that they can count onto get things done. and then it may be republicans coming in. howie: i went a couple of parties back in my day and they were great parties and who what's do you say those who scuff, help your career, diplomats and now you're turning up your nose at it? >> i'm not really turning up any nose at things that are fun and i think that's a big difference. a lot of these things are just -- like official events and you just go and i used to run around the room and leave. the parties that ben and i used to have and i had before covid, i always invited people i liked and people who were my friends and people who were fun and,
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yes, i mean, a lot of them were in the administration because those are people in administrations because they were people that i knew and liked. people had a good time. i think that's part of what socializing is. it should be in washington. i'm not turning up any nose at getting together because i think it's important for people in washington to get together and to get to know each other. that part of it is part of the ritual that i think should continue. howie: sally -- >> i think there's an awful lot -- yes. howie: you write an article about you and ben bradley, you were referred to as a hostess and socialite and you found that demeaning? >> i once said that i did -- i didn't mind being a hostess because i thought that was a good thing but being described as a hostess today i think is demeaning because it confers a
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notion of frivolity. it's always about the women. one thing that i said in the piece in the 43 years that ben and i were together and entertained all of the time i was called a socialite and hostess, never mind they had been a journalist for 30 years, 40 years and ben never once called a host. i think that idea of women being hostesses is really sort of arcaic at the moment and i think that people who entertain are host and you should call them both host and i think being a host is in the a bad thing. i mean, anybody who has somebody over for a cup of coffee to their house is a host. howie: right, certain scale to these things having nice catering. >> yeah. howie: i understand your point that things started to fade, came the pandemic, then hunkering in our houses, i did the show in the basement. but is this now a relic?
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we were told important businesses got made in the parties? is the beltway culture now too polarized for that sort of thing? >> i think it's terribly polarized particularly during the trump administration, there was just no inner mingling, almost none at all and people didn't want to go out and washington is very democratic town and people just department want to go out with the trump people and they didn't want to be with the liberals. so there was -- there wasn't that kind of congeniality and doesn't exist that anymore. i think it's really sad and i don't think it will come back soon. but i think it's important for people to get together and know each other. i just think it's going to be done in a smaller, more intimate scale. howie: wouldn't be a bad thing. your piece did read as obituary.
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howie: way back in 1995 that the bbc's martin basheer scored sit-down with princess diana and used deceitful behavior in breach of ethics to get that infamous interview. >> well, there were 3 of us in this marriage so it was a bit crowded. >> bbc's chief offered full and unconditional apology saying the network is very sorry for falling short of its standards. joining us from los angeles,
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jonathan hunt, fox news correspondent, how serious are the journalistic sheer and why did it take so bloody long to uncover the misconduct? jonathan: very good questions, howie. first to seriousness of breaches. it's hard to find serious breach of ethics than faking documents to try to persuade the subject of an interview to grant you that interview. martin basheer's behavior was utley, completely despicable and let's not forget he build a career off of this. he went from the bbc to abc's nightline to msnbc and fired from msnbc for equally despicable comments he made regarding sarah palin. he's just a terrible human. howie: okay, i'm glad that you are telling us what you really think. this has sparked all global reaction including prince
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william and prince harry. >> it brings sadness that bbc's failure contributed to fear, paranoia and isolation that i remember from the final years with her. howie: talk about her mother's death in the paparazzi chase 2 years later. william also said this was not just a rogue reporter but leaders to have bbc, but martin basheer told he was wrong if forge the bank statements, but he's deeply sorry to the sons for but he loved princess diana and he actually defended the interview. jonathan: sure, martin basheer would say that, wouldn't he? on the other hand, i would say perhaps it's a little bit of a stretch as some people have done to blame martin basheer for bringing about the events that led to diann ample's tragic death.
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yes, that interview may have made her relationship with her husband prince charles even more difficult but was martin bashir responsible for what happened in 1997 in paris, no, of course, he wasn't. he's certainly never getting anywhere near the royal family again and right that he resigned and extensively for health reasons but he had no future with the bbc and the bbc knew this a long time ago and they should have acted a lot sooner than they did. howie: why wait for the investigation? a related question for our program is this, why is there so much media fascination here in the states and of course, interview that took place for beloved princess who has not been with us for decades? she was and always icon for the british people and everyone around the world. she was someone who truly came
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in and shaked up the royal family who is the most famous influential royal family in the world. i think that everybody will be fascinated. she was a fascinating character. she did wonderful charity work and she was obviously a beautiful woman. i don't think that will ever change, howie. howie: and the media's fashion nation as well. jonathan hunt from la, thank you so much. >> pleasure. howie: jump justice department obtained phone records from barbara star in leaked russia investigation at the same time. now the obama doj used similar tactics, i will criticize beth but president biden said friday such actions are simply wrong and he's changing the policy about getting such confidential records from journalists without them even knowing it. fox peter doocy got a question into biden and asked him about ufo's and the president deflected this. what could he be hiding?
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arthel: we begin with deadly shooting at a house party in new jersey with at least a dozen people wounded. no arrests as of yet. hello, everyone, welcome to fox news live. i'm arthel neville. hi, eric. eric: hi, arthel. thank you for joining us. i'm eric sean. at this hour we still do not know the reason for massive shooting that occurred last night. it happened at 90's theme party in curvierland county, near philadelphia. we are told hundreds of guests were attending the party and new jersey governor phil murphy this morning confirms that people were killed tweeting,