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support developing countries as they transition away from coal-fired power. in addition we agreed to tackle corruption which is a threat to society's everywhere. i pointed out in a conversation i had with one of it was a request for me not to -- when i was asked what i was going to be done after being elected, i said, we are going to reestablish strength of american relationships so we can be counted again, alliances, maybe you shouldn't get the quad, india, japan, australia and the united states working together and maybe you shouldn't be pushing on strengthening the european union to deal with the west not just to have and so on. and i said for an american
president to -- every president to be sustained or represent the values, there's a country. i pointed out. we are unique as a country. we are built on -- we are unique in the sense that we are not based on ethnicity or geography or religion, we are one nation and we organized on an idea and that all men and women are created equal. sounds corny and any doesn't act cannot be supported as country. what we are able to do, we know that corruption undermines government and makes economies much less competitive and constitutes a threat to our security. so we are going to work together to address issues like the abuse of shell companies, money laundering through real estate transaction and we've agreed that we are going to work
together to address cyber threat from state and non-state actors like criminal ransomware and hold countries accountable that harbor criminal ransom actors don't hold them accountable. over the past few weeks. the nations of the g7 affirmed that democratic values that underpin everything that we hope today achieve in our shared future, that we are committed to put them to work. one, delivering vaccines and ending the pandemic. two, driving substantial inclusive economic recovery around the world. 3, infueling infrastructure development in places that mostly need it and 4, fighting climate change. the only way to meet global threats is by working together with partners and allies. and i convey to each of the -- my g-7 counterparts that the united states will do our part. america is back at the table. america is back at the table.
lack of participation in the past and full engagement was noticed significantly, not only by leaders of those countries but by the people in the g-7 countries and america is back and the business of leading the world alongside nations who share our most deeply-held values. and so the bottom line is, i was very pleased with the -- with the outcome of the -- of the entire conference and, you know, i noticed there was a lot of coverage of my individual comments made by my colleagues about how we were all getting along together, but the truth of the matter is we did. i felt -- and wasn't about me, it was about america. i felt genuineceps of enthusiasm
that america was back in the table and fully engaged. now i'm heading off to brussels, to nato and the many of the same people will be at n nato and to make the case, we are back as well. we do not view nato as a sort of a protection racket. we believe that nato is vital to our ability to maintain american security for the next -- the next century. and there's a real enthusiasm. i made it clear and i pointed out and i thanked them, article 5, attack on one and is attack on all. what americans don't forget, remember what happened in 9/11. we were attacked, immediately nato supported us. nato supported us. nato went till we got bin laden
and they were part of the process. we believe nato in section 5 was a sacred obligation. bottom line is, i think we've made some progress and reestablishing american credibility among our closest friends and our values. now why don't i take some of your questions and i'm told, jonathan, i'm supposed to recognize you first. >> i appreciate that, sir. thank you very much. mr. president, vladimir putin -- thank you. vladimir putin who you will be seeing in a few days said a couple of days ago that he believed that u.s.-russia relations were at allow pointment in what way can your summit change that and secondly on the same topic, you had said previously that you would be unafraid to call out russia's disruptive actions like cyber hacks, ukraine and election interference but you're not having a joint press conference with putin, why not take a chance to stand by side with the
world watching? >> i think he's right that it's a low point and depends on how he responds to acting consistent with international norms which in many cases he has not. as i told him when i was running, when i got elected, before i was sworn in that i was going to find out whether or not he, in fact, did engage in trying to interfere in our election. that i was going to take a look whether he was involved in the cybersecurity breach that occurred, et cetera. and if i did, i was going to respond. i did. i checked it out, so i had access to all of the intelligence. he was engaged in those activities. i did respond and made it clear that i would respond again. with regard to -- i always found and i don't mean to suggest that the press should not know, but this is not a contest of who can do better in front of a press
conference and try to embarrass each other. it's about making myself clear what the conditions are to get a better relationship with russia. we are not looking for conflict. we are looking to resolve those actions which we think are inconsistent with international norms, number 1. number 2, where we can work together we may be able to do that in terms of some strategic doctrine that may be able to be worked together, we are able to do it. there may be other areas. there's talk about working together on climate. so the bottom line is i think the best way to deal with this is for he and i to meet and have our discussion. i know you don't doubt that i'll be very straightforward with him about our concerns and i will make clear my view of how that meeting turned out and he will make clear how -- from his perspective how it turned out. but i don't want to get into being diverted by did they
shake, who talked the most and he can say what he said the meeting was about and i will say what i think the meeting was about. that's the way i'm going the handle it. >> thank you, sir. >> i'm sorry, i'm going to get in trouble with staff, jennifer jacob, bloomberg. >> on china you -- sorry, china seems to be doing what it wants to do with regard to hong kong, with regard to south china sea and many other issues despite pressure from you and from allies. the final language in the g7 communique does have mentions from china which is different from past years but i know it's not as tough as you and your teams want it to be. we saw a draft of the communique and it's not quite as tough. why isn't it as tough? there isn't very much action in it and calls for china to be
respectful. why isn't that communique a little bit tougher, are you disappointed in that and what can you do to change some of the actions by china? >> first of all, i think as you know last time the g-7 met there was no mention of china. but this time there is mention of china. the g-7 explicitly to call out human right abuses exclusively and two strategy to deal with china non-market policy and that's under way how to do that and three to take serious actions against forced labor in solar agriculture and industries because that's where it's happening and they've agreed to do that. the launch, what i said earlier, i feel very strongly, i propose that we have a -- a democratic
alternative to the belt road initiative, to build back better and they agree today that. we agreed that we put a committee to do that and come up with that. and thirdly, that we are going to insist on high standards to be -- for climate-friendly transparent alternative to the belt and road initiative and but in the meantime we are going to move forward. look, i think it's always -- let me put it this way. i know this is going to sound somewhat prosaic but we are in a context not with china per se but a contest with autocrats, autocratic governments around the world whether or not democracies can compete with them in the rapidly changing 21st century. and i think how we act and whether we pull together as democracies is going to
determine whether our grandkids look back 15 years now and say, did they step up. are democracies as relevant and powerful as they have been? and i walked away from the meeting with all my colleagues, they are convinced that that is correct now too. i shouldn't say now, not just because of me but they believe that to be the case. and so i think you're going to see just straightforward dealing with china and, again, we are not looking -- as i've told xi jinping myself. i'm not looking for conflict. where we will cooperate we will cooperate and where we disagree i will state it frankly. for example, we talked about trade. it's one thing to talk about whether or not our agriculture policy makes sense and the other thing to say, by the way, you're demanding that if i do business with your country i have to give you all my trade secrets and have the chinese partner have 51% of that, no.
not us. >> are you saying, mr. president, are you satisfied with what came out in the communique or do you wish they were tougher or more action on china? >> yes. i think there's plenty action on china and there's always something that you can -- i'm sure my colleagues think there's things they can improve that they wanted but i'm satisfied. steve holland, reuters. >> the communique cited a variety of fronts on china, everything from human rights, the origin of covid virus, taiwan, what do you think china needs to do to ease tensions? >> i think china has to start to act more responsibly in terms of international norms on human rights and transparency. transparency matters across the board, and i think the idea that, for example, one of the things i raised and others raised, that wasn't the only up
with that raised in the g-7, is that we don't know -- we haven't had access to the laboratories that determined whether or not -- i have not reached a conclusion because our intelligence community is not certain yet whether or not this was a consequence of from the marketplace of bat and interfacing with animals and the environment that caused this -- this covid-19 or whether it was an experiment gone awry in the laboratory. it's important to know to that because we have to have access, we have to build a system whereby we can know what -- when we see another transparent, lack of transparency might produce another -- another pandemic. we have to have access. the world has to have access. so we are trying to figure out in the g-7 whether we can put
together an international basis upon bottom line on which transparency accounted for. >> and you mentioned that the -- the argument behind the scenes, you had not mentioned china in 3 years in one of the communications. what did you argue behind the scenes to try to bring people to the point where they got? >> the answer to that question -- there's no way to answer without sounding self-serving. i just laid out what i thought was the need for us to be consistent to protect our economies and to see to it that other struggling economies needed help got the help and were not held captive by other nations. but you might ask that to others. i'm not trying to be a wise guy. and wall street journal, andrew.
>> as you said, the g-1 countries committed to send 1 billion coronavirus doses overseas but the world health organization says 11 billion doses are needed. how are you going to bridge that gap? will the u.s. commit to send additional doses overseas and given that gap is it realistic to end the pandemic by 2022? >> it is, might take longer worldwide but the united states is going to continue. i think there's a possibility over 2022 going in 2023 that we would be in a position to provide another billion. that's not don't yet. i've been very careful to tell you what i know and say what i thought could be done and when i've announced that i've done it. what i don't want to do is get too far ahead in suggesting that we can do things and i can do things -- the united states can do things that i don't have done yet. there was a clear consensus
among all our colleagues at the g-7 that this wasn't the end. we were going to stay at it until we were able to provide for, able to provide the needs for the whole world in terms. look, it's in the just the right thing to do from a -- how can i say it, from a moral standpoint but it is also the correct thing to do in terms of our own health, our own security. you can't build a wall to keep out new strains, you can't do that. and so i think this is going to be a constant project for a long time and there may be other pandemics, we, again, setting up a system where we can detect before it gets out of control one -- a pandemic that might be on the horizon, a virus is important. so we are not going to -- as long as there's nations in need being able to be vaccinated, we -- not only that, we have been
engaged in helping which i've made clear and most of colleagues understood it, they knew it themselves. this is a gigantic logistical effort. it's one thing to send nation x, x number, y number of vaccines and the other to have the people to get it in people's arms. we are also providing the ability for other countries to manufacture their vaccines. we've all agreed on that. india has the capacity to do that, they don't have the material capacity thus far to do the manufacturing but there's a lot going onto provide not only to, quote, give vaccines but to provide the ability of countries in question to produce their own vaccines. i'm not going to answer. i'm joking. last question. peter alexander, nbc news.
>> thank you very much. about vladimir putin and your meeting this week, the u.s. has been slapping sanctions opinion years for malign activities and russia has not stopped, so what specifically will you do differently to change vladimir putin's behavior? >> well, first of all, there's no guaranty you can change a person's behavior, autocrats have enormous power and they don't have to answer to a public and the fact is it may very well be if i respond in kind which i will that it doesn't disway him and he keeps going. we will be moving in a direction where russia has -- has its own dilemmas dealing with its economy, dealing with its -- dealing with covid and dealing with not only the united states but europe at large and the
middle east. and so there's a lot going on where we can work together with russia, for example, in libya. we should be opening up the -- the passes to be able to go through and provide -- provide food assistance and economic -- i mean, vital assistance to a population that's in real trouble. i think i'm going to try very hard to -- by the way, there's places where -- i shouldn't be starting off with negotiating in public here but let me say it this way, russia has engaged in activities which we believe are contrary to international norms, but they have also bitten some real problems. they will have problems chewing on. and, for example, rebuilding of
-- of syria, of libya, of -- this is -- they are there and as long as they are there without the ability to bring about some order in the region, you can't do that very well without providing for the basic economic needs of people, so i'm hopeful that we can find an accommodation where we can save the lives of people in, for example, in libya, that is consistent with the interest -- maybe for different reasons but for the same result. >> i want to ask about a commented vladimir putin, why do you think he hasn't changed his behavior in spite the u.s. has done up to this point? >> he's vladimir putin. i'm not going to get into much more than that because i have to sit down with him and i'm happy to talk after that. >> what he said just to conclude, today he said that russia would be ready to hand
over cyber criminals to the united states if the u.s. would do the same to russia and an agreement came out of this meeting coming up. so are you open to that kind of a trade with vladimir putin? >> yes, i'm open -- if there's crimes committed against russia, then, in fact, the people committing those crimes being harbored in the united states, i'm -- i'm committed to holding them accountable. and i heard that, i was told as i was flying here that he said that. i think that's potentially a good sign and progress. thank you all very, very much. thank you. [inaudible] >> i'm going to get in trouble with my staff. >> you have often said repeatedly that america is back. >> yes. >> at the same time you've kept in play some trump-era steel and
aluminum sanctions and i wanted to ask you, when you're having these conversations with european allies who are very concerned about the sanctions, how do you justify that and what are your plans -- >> 120 days, give me a break. i need time. maria: all right that was president biden holding a live news conference in the united kingdom this morning following the g7 summit later today the president will meet with queen elizabeth at windsor castle. this is sunday morning futures. i'm maria bartiromo. let me bring in florida governor ron desantis now and get reaction to what we heard. governor, thanks very much for being here and standing by throughout the live coverage of the g-7 closeout meeting, your reaction to what you heard from the president. governor: well, maria, i think it's quite a contrast from his predecessor. i think that president biden is someone that's much more passive on the world stage.
not nearly as donald trump was and i think his energy level is much lower and so i think that's just something that people are sizing up. i think that our adversaries are watching that. i didn't hear very much in the way of holding china accountable for their role in covering up the origins of the covid-19 pandemic. i think that's absolutely essential that china be held accountable for their role in that as well as any bureaucrats in the united states who may have been covering up. but, you know, they were talking economically a lot about other countries, he was talking about reducing energy production, worldwide and i couldn't help but think, you know, here in the united states, he's leaving a lot of people behind. look at all the workers he left behind by canceling the keystone xl pipeline. those were thousands and thousands of very good jobs and also think about family budgets with the sharp increase in gas prices and then the overall butting inflation that we are seeing that's being fueled by
big-spending policies. i think that performance played well with european elites. not sure that there was much in it for middle america. maria: we will hear more about his plans for taxes. he wants to have a global minimum tax of 15%. in some economies that would actually be a tax increase, if you look at a place like ireland. we will get more on that. one study struck me before i was coming on the air with you and this was about florida and it says the average taxpayer who moved to florida from the other 49 states had an average income, this is an average gross income of $110,000 which is about twice the average household income, of course, you don't have income tax in florida and it's actually helped your economy. tell us, assess the economy right now in florida and tell us what you've seen over the last year in terms of an increase in population. governor: well, sure, maria, before covid we had seen by far
the highest amount of wealth move into florida compared to any other state but i think that's accelerated since covid. i think you're seeing a lot of people move here. obviously we have a very favorable tax climate. florida is the lowest per capita tax burden, individual tax burden in the country and we are proud of that. that has led obviously to more businesses moving here. so we've got a lot of great things on the horizon but it's a lesson in how you do this. you tax people, you tax business and you do all of those things, in a country like ours, it's mobile, people vote with their feet. we have low taxes and favorable environment and we end uptaking more revenue than we probably would if we had higher taxes because of the underlying dynamism of the economy. maria: yeah, incredible. you have been doing so much, governor. i want to get into your moves and let me start with the bill that you just signed to stop the censorship of floridans.
last week on the program, we went through the fauci facebook files where it's clear based on e-mails between mark zuckerberg and dr. anthony fauci, they were coordinating in terms of what should be reported on facebook and what shouldn't be. facebook took down many posts about the origin of covid-19 only to have egg on its face when they had to change the policy again. do you believe fauci colluded with mark zuckerberg, does thiss expose facebook to legal action which is what senator ted cruz told us last week? >> told us something important, maria. what they censored was true and they were also censoring around the same time last year any criticism of lockdowns and we know lockdowns didn't work, states like florida that were open were better off for it and so you often hear people say, these are private companies they
can do what they want. facebook you can argue is essentially acting as an arm of the state because they are suppressing what the government wants suppressed and big tech is unlike anything that we have seen. they have massive amount of power, monopolies stronger than the 20th century. they control handful of companies. a huge percentage of the political speech in the country. when you have situations, they are not just censoring based on partisanship, we have seen conservatives being censored but the most important issues that we have ever addressed, how covid started, whether lockdowns were, you know they are doing damage to society. maria: yeah. they've suddenly believed, come together that they are the arbiters of truth and many of the things that they are censoring are, in fact, true as you say.
is florida considering legal actions against facebook? governor: well, i know that the state is already involved in multi-state litigation that predated those revelations. i mean, obviously i would support any ways that we can vindicate the rights of individual floridans to be able to converse about public issues. now our bill is the first of its kind. it really tracks what justice clarence thomas played out in one of the concurrences a few months ago where these companies really are more common carriers and they should be treated as such and our view s yes, you can have certain obviously guidelines or however you do it, but you have to apply it evenly and if you don't, you are advertising as an open platform and you're saying you're not publishers but you're acting as publishers by stifling speech that you don't like. that's a fraud on the consumer and people deserve to vindicate rights in court. maria: i mean, this censorship
feel like communist china. you talked about big tech and relationship to the chinese communist party. you have been researching this. you say that the lockdown approach that was led by the democrats was promoted by the ccp. tell me about that. governor: sure. before i do, just point out, when we signed the big-tech bill, i had folks who had fled communist cuba speaking about how important it was. i have people that fled socialist venezuela talking about how important it was to combat censorship because they lived through really bad periods of censorship. you look at how big tech has handled the ccp, they are very differential to the communist party of china and i think that china was very much invested in promoting lockdowns as we started getting in to 2020, february, march, obviously italy. the italy lockdowns were patterned off what we saw in wuhan and facebook and some of
the big companies, they were really serving to elevate the lockdown hysteria into absolutely suppressed people that were raises questions and concerns about lockdowns. and the reason why that's so galling because up until covid, public health guidance was never in a pandemic to just lock down indefinitely. this was a new invention that was really fueled by the chinese experience and so i think the relationship between big tech and the ccp is very problematic and quite frankly a lot of these big corporations particularly in entertainment and some of the other fields of the american economy. maria: and i wonder if it start with academia, governor. you know, you heard president biden say that he wants more transparency from china, but we really haven't seen a tough stance in terms of u.s. policy on china. in fact, just this week president biden revoked president trump's ban on tiktok
and on wechat. i know that you have talked about the ccp infiltrating florida universities, you have confucius centers. this is a very important point and i want you to talk about what you're doing, the two bills that you just signed in terms of stopping the influence, foreign influence in universities because the ccp has been able to get inside of important institutions in this country and steal data. we know that secretary pompeo has said they are now inside the gates. there was a string of indictments in 2020 by the pompeo state department. everyone from a -- the head of the biology department at harvard to an nypd officer to shutting down the embassy in houston. they do get inside of our institutions, what can you do to stop it and tell me about those confucius centers in florida? governor: so we did two bills, one to combat foreign influence
specifically targeted at the cpp and corporate espionage which is generally targeted at the ccp because they are the worst offenders. so we actually had a confucius institute that was done at miami-dade college. fortunately when i became governor we looked at and we had college get rid of it, however, this is a continued concern. our bill we signed basically bans things like confucius institutes from getting a foothold on florida universities and i think that's really important but as you document, it seems like every other week they'll be academic researcher who is identified as having ties with the ccp. people get indicted, people flee america once they are found out about this and so we are really trying to scrutinize what's going on in these universities inside florida. we also want to protect trade secrets from our businesses and all that because ccp infiltration has been very prominent throughout the country but, ma'am, the academia, there's deep ties in many
segments of academia with the communist party of china. maria: i want you to hear president biden talk about xi jinping recently. i was astounded at the comments and, again, we still do not have a clear understanding of what biden's policy is on china. here he is just a few weeks ago. watch this, governor. >> i've spent more time with president xi of china than any world leader has, 24 hours of private meetings with him, just an interpreter. 17,000 miles traveling china and here. he firmly believes that china before the year 2035 is going to own america because autacracies,
we are the only nation organized on an idea. maria: that's it, governor. xi jinping, the president of china thinks he will own america within 15 years. that's what you heard from president biden. governor: it's really astounding. the origins of covid, one of the biggest cover-ups in the history of the country in terms of what they did with the gain of function research, understanding that these researchers had been infected in the fall of 2019 and then to cover it up for months and then to not be viewed at is something of upmost importance to be able to, one, get the truth, but to hold china accountable. they caused immense damage throughout the world by allowing this -- this virus to be unlearned on the rest of the world and so to be that differential to china, i don't think that's what the american public is looking for.
i think that they want to see a policy from the united states that's more assertive against china and understands china is a threat. they're an economic competitor but also a threat in terms of what they are trying to achieve militarily. maria: governor, real quick before we go. set the record straight on the cruise industry. i know there's a narrative being pushed by the media that you're in a war in the cruise industry whether or not to require vaccine passports. where are you with the cruise industry and what should americans expect? governor: well, we are in the fight with the cdc. we don't believe they have the authority to do that. we are suing them in federal court. we had a hearing last week, very positive response from the court. we think we will get a favorable ruling there and we definitely think we will win on appeal as well. once we are passed the cdc, they are free to sail in florida. of course, they will have to
follow florida law but they will be able to do it without requiring vaccine passports. you know, the cdc, maria, they don't recognize immunity conferred through infection and we know that there have been tens of millions of people who have immunity through that way. why would you say they can't participate in society, why do we want people to be divulging all of the health information and we have a blanket ban on that across the state of florida but we also believe that once cdc gets out of the way that you will see cruises resume in florida very soon. maria: governor, really quick before you go. you have been showing real leadership in a very difficult time. have you had serious discussions with president trump about partnering with him in 2024 and a run? governor: no. and i haven't had any discussions with anybody about anything beyond what we are doing now because, you know, we are putting a lot of points on the board and we are really going on offense, moving the ball forward. i have a great state, a big state.
we've got a lot on our plate here. we take it one day at a time and try to achieve things for the people of the florida. maria: governor, you're doing a great job, we appreciate your time this morning. thank you, sir. florida governor ron desantis. >> many of the foreign nationals that are being trafficked across our border often arrive here deeply indebted to the mexican crime cartels? >> certainly we have seen quite a number of instances, absolutely. >> are those debts collected through servitude to the cartels? >> in some cases. >> basically 170 plus years after the 13th amendment have slavery in this country as a result of the policies. >> well, certainly i do consider human trafficking a form of -- modern form of slavery. maria: a stunning admission from the fbi director christopher
wray this week during testimony before the house judiciary committee, open borders have created modern-day slavery right here in america. congressman jim jordan ranking republican on the judiciary committee. he joins me right now. congressman, thank you very much for joining me this morning. giver us your reaction to what we heard there. >> well, even the fbi director in the biden administration knows how serious the situation is on our border, the chaotic situation. i give my hats off to top republican on the immigration subcommittee of the full judiciary committee. joe biden won't go to the border and kamala harris won't go to the border and sen secretary mayorkas went to the border he wouldn't let nobody in. then having to send money back to these organized crimes, the
terrible cartel. this is how crazy it is and it's all driven by the crazy policies that the biden administration put in place where they said we will not deport anyone, we will not build the wall and we will get rid of the remain in mexico policy and we get this chaotic situation that we have now seen over the last several months, each month sets a new record for illegal immigrants coming into our country. maria: well, it's just extraordinary and we have a graphic here of total drug seizures. it's not just the fact that the criminal cartels are delivering 2,000 people a day to the texas border, it's also what they are seizing in terms of narcotics, 463,000 total drug seizures year to date. then you go to fentanyl which by the way fentanyl is killing our people. we had 90,000 overdoses this year and you have 7,450 pounds of fentanyl seized. judiciary has jurisdiction over
the border, kamala harris going to guatemala but fail to go see realities of policies resulted in. >> the judiciary committee is to have a full hearing on this. yet to have anyone come in. i would love to have secretary mayorkas come in and talk to us. at least he's been to the border. we know the vice president and the president hasn't. you're exactly right. the cartels have r in the drug-moving business and the people-moving business and they are exploiting people as even fbi director now understands. this is how serious it is and congress is supposed to do investigations and supposed to do hearings but the judiciary committee under control of democrats will not do it and it's terrible, it's wrong. i hope they'll have a change of mind and we will actually focus on this issue. maria: so you grilled christopher wray on two topics. you discuss the fauci-facebook
potential collusion and censorship and you discussed the continued fisa abuse. do you believe dr. fauci colluded with facebook and mark zuckerberg and change the policy once he admitted, oh, yes, we did send money to echo health alliance who then sent it to the wuhan virology lab and, oh, yes, we are looking at and doing gain of function research. he admitted after initially potentially what, lying under oath? congressman: well, governor desantis said it well, everything that they were censoring a year ago, they were wrong on, they were wrong on this theory. credible evidence that this could, in fact, be how the terrible virus started. they were wrong on the lockdown as the governor said and they were wrong on things they criticized relative to hydroxychloroquine based on recent students. there's four big why questions here. first question, why were we
given money chinese lab in the first place? why did dr. fauci and others downplay the lab leak theory when all credible people were around them, e-mailing them, hey, we think the lab leak theory could, in fact, be how this thing started. why did they redact the big portion of the e-mail between mr. zuckerberg and dr. fauci and the main question for me is why don't democrats in the united states congress want to investigate how this virus started? those are four big questions we need answers to and the only way to do it is to have an investigation that the congress does and bring in dr. fauci and bring in mr. collins and ask the tough questions and then bring in this guy, chris hasel, the head of the board that overseas any grants, any applications, any grant application that is deal with gain of function research. he has said that they -- that the definition is way too narrow and only dealt with a couple of applications in the time that the board has been in operation. i think we have to do it. there's a select committee in
congress. why in the world aren't we focused on how this virus started? maria: well, congressman, i know that you hit on a lot of other things. i want to slip in a quick break but you had right there the director of the fbi in front of you and you asked him about continued fisa abuse. my question remains, where is durham. we will take a short break and we will get to that part of your questioning. i'm talking with congressman jim jordan. we will be right back.
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been done. that's a problem and we know what took place. we know inspector general horowitz told us a year and a half ago specifically relative to the carter page fisa which is what they used to spy on the trump campaign, 61 lies in the fisa application. this is a concern for americans because you think about, you know, we have this report this past week with what the irs did with american citizens tax returns, we have the report from judge bosber with what happened with the fisa process at the fbi. this is an attack on americans' liberties and should concern every single citizen and that's why we probe here and that's why we tried to change the fisa law a year and a half ago and we will have to relook at that in the future. that needs to be changed. plain and simple. maria: but congressman, why are they going to stop abusing their power when they know there's no consequences for abusing their power? you just said there were more than 10 mistakes. we know that there were also 17
errors in the actual fisa applications. carter page was wiretapped for more than a year with no charges ever brought against him. how are we allowing innocent citizens to get wiretapped and spied on and not having any consequences whatsoever? where is the john durham investigation? congressman: yeah, well, i mean, who the heck knows frankly is the answer to that question. i've had constituents continue to ask me about that. i don't know, no one knows. we were supposed to have the durham report over a year ago. i just don't know where that is. it's another reason why we need to have the attorney general in front of the judiciary committee asking questions. the bottom line is we in congress, we can't hold anyone accountable, we can't put anyone in jail, only the justice department can do that. all we can do is ask the questions, do the investigations and get the information out there so the american people have it and can use that information when they go to the polls and decide who will represent them in the united states congress and would be will the president of the united
states. that's how our system works. our job to get the information and make it public. we will keep doing that. i don't know when durham's report is coming out and i'm mad as anybody else because we were supposed to have that information a year ago about what took place in the whole-trump russia investigation and how they spied on american citizens and how they spied on republicans candidates presidents campaigns. maria: all of the agencies continue to be politicized. you just mentioned the irs, leaks two major newspapers about people's personal taxes even if there wasn't anything wrong, they were using all of the tools available to them. who is leaking people's taxes so that they can spread this underlying this idea to do a wealth tax and align with the president's ideas to tax everybody, the highest taxes we have seen in a generation. is the irs being politicized again the way it was under obama? congressman: i love what the journal said in their op-ed.
that didn't take long. 5 months in the biden manage we were right back where we were ten years ago in the obama administration when targeted conservatives around the country. yeah, this is a problem. i hope there's an investigation here and we get to the bottom of this but i think in a general sense, maria, we need to understand that the left controls -- the left controls big media, the left controls big tech and control big corporations, big sports, they control hollywood and higher education. the left control the white house and they control do congress and most important the bureaucracy. we have to get a handle of this. we hope there's an investigation and we can find out who, in fact, leaked this private information about american citizens. maria: congressman, we are counting on you. it's good to see you. thank you, sir. congressman jim jordan joining us this morning. n that exclusive. coming up, this. [speaking in spanish] maria: deaf and despair at our
maria: welcome back, vice president kamala harris went all the way to central america this past week but she would not go to the source of the problem, the southern border. now she's being publicly shamed to face the realities of her policy. last week she tried to appear as if she's been there in this exchange with lester holt. watch. >> do you have any plans to visit the border? >> at some point -- we are going to the border. we've been to the border. so this whole -- this whole thing about the border, we've
been to the border. we've been to the border. >> you haven't been to the border? >> and i haven't been to europe. maria: the latest border numbers are no laughing matter with border agents making 180,000 apprehensions in the month of may. that's up nearly 700% from a year ago. tens of thousands more were watched on surveillance cameras getting away. now they have -- we have no idea where they are. they've likely made it into the interior of the country. joining us right now a man on the ground dealing with this firsthand, national border patrol council president brandon judd. good to have you this morning. let me apologize for our abbreviated time here but assess where we are right now. one would have expected maybe kamala harris would have made a surprise visit to the border given all of the interest in it but that was not the case. >> she can't go to the border. if she goes to the border, she's going to be expected to solve this problem. this is a problem that she
created. she even came out and said that she's an advocate for illegal aliens. she's supposed to be an advocate of citizens of this country and she's coming out and she's saying she's advocating for lawlessness. that's the reason why we are seeing the problems in cities like oregon, chicago, new york, all of the lawlessness is existing because she advocates for lawlessness. maria: so what do you think is happening here with these got-aways? tell me what you can about the people who you viewed on surveillance that have come into the country. what are their intentions, where are they going and what can you tell us about the number of people getting away and not being apprehended? >> the first thing president trump had the issue solved. if we were stuck with the policies that were working, we wouldn't be in the situation today. this is a manmade disaster and disaster made by this current
administration. if we continue to let got-aways to get away, we will continue to see lawlessness in the cities. we don't know who they are and where they're coming from and what their intentions and it's because we don't have the policies that are necessary. maria: yeah. we have to have you back. thank you so much. ly see you this week on -- i will see you this week on mornings with maria when you're entertaining, you want to put out the best snacks that taste great, and come straight from the earth. and last time i checked, pretzels don't grow on trees. just saying. planters. a nut above. . . . *6
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