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of the swamp swirling around at the white house. thank you. great is he was always. set your dvr see you never miss says showed me will see you next sunday with "the next revolution".
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>> more democrat voted to investigate what happened in benghazi libya. did you know that? >> did you want more democrats voted to form a select committee to investigate the deaths of 4 americans. in libya than republicans voted for january 6 select committee.
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while the other is bipartisan. and serious. you are free to think they were worth pursuinger not, i happen to think what happened on january 6 is worthy of investigation prosecution, and up cars. >> should apply to all congressional investigations. regardless of who is in power. the rules should not change depending on which team is up to bat and strike zone should not change, kevin mccarthy picked 5 republicans to populate january 6 committee, he is the
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highest ranking republican in congress. and therefore, he picked the republican members. but nancy pelosi rejected two of his picks. she refused to allow them to participate. she deemed them unqualified. we're not sure why she rejected leader mccarthy's picks, the dc media is too afraid of her to ask, too afraid to risk losing an interview, to risk losing sources to notos be on the receiving end of a leak. the dc media tells us they speak truth to power. they tell us, dem dies in darkness, they publish all news fit to print. they can't question pelosi on her own duplicity when it comes to congressional investigations,
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she put adam schiff on the benghazi committee event though his mind was fully made up. he did everything he could to protect the democratic nominee for president, that was his job. not to access information or ascertain why the military did not respond in a time lear timer but to protect hillary clinton. pelosi picked him despite his bias, and she picked schiff to investigate donald trump or russia collusion allegations, even though schiff -- misstated evidence. and claimed to have evidence he never produced, and picked schiff to lead the prosecution in a failed impeachment trial, he misstated facts, misrepresented a meeting with a whistle-blower. and manufactured evidence during a committee hearing, pelosi
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picked him andd way, she picked swalwell to investigate trump, even though he was running for president against trump. she picked swalwell for the intelligence committee despite his close relationship with a chinese spy. picked castro to investigate trump while his twin brother was running against trump for president. she picked democrats on her january 6 select committee even though they challenged 2016 election results, she picked a democrat to investigate the january 6 attack on the capitol even though that democrat sued trump in court. nearly 500 people have been charged with various crimes related to january 6, those cases are being investigated by law enforcement that we prosecuted and sentenced if
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convicted. there is not a single cop, prosecutor or judge who would be allowed on those cases if they did what schiff, swalwell, castro for the others did, she picked her own bias members but rejected jim jordan, jordan is the top republican on the commissionary committee, he was on the intelligence committee. they have more access to sensitive information than any committee in congress, he worked hard. he didn't leak. that is more than i could say for many of his colleagues. but whether you like jim jordan or not is irrelevant. whether you think previous investigations or current are appropriate is beside the point. congress has the power and often responsibility to investigate. but it should be fair.
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and it is fair to ask why democrat members of congress are free to prejudge evidence, misstate evidence, challenge election results, sue the perch they are investigating, run again the person they are investigating, leak like sives, -- yet qualified for service on an investigative committee. but jim j jordan is not. that is the question, why schiff, not jordan? why swalwell, not jordan? why it is your members can already havee their minds alreay made up, but somehow that is disqualifying for the other side. the question a serious objective media would ask. it is the sort of question a media devoted to the truth would ask. but the modern media here is just as partisan as the politicians. truth to power they claim,
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democracy dies in darkness they claim. it does not do well in the slough of hypocrisy either. that is where we are right now. no small part because the referee is just as partisan, as the players. joining me fox news contributor, law professor at george washington university, professor jonathan turley, how are you professor? >> thank you, trey, i am fine. trey: what is standard on participation in a select committee in congress. >> they have been allowed to populate their parts of the committee it gains credibility if both parties are able to be represented fully, that brings adversarial process that brings
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more facts into the open. that is what was troubling about how this committee was put together. like we're now in a post persuasion politics. the interest is no longer to have a committee or a commission that can persuade people who to what occurred. we're in now in bludgeoned politics, we stipulate what the facts are you control who is on the committee, that is unfortunate, speaker pelosi made a calculated choice, deciding she was not going for that % -- persuasive or compromise moment but a strictly partisan approach. trey: i tryey to follow the new. i still have not heard the reason why schiff is okay
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despite prejudging evidence or whatever else the republicans cred -- allege he did but jordan and banks were disqualified. the referee is not asking the questions, but maybe they have, and i missed it? >>th no, they have not, that is troubling. like you i believe there are ample questionsga to investigat, and what happened on january 6 was an outrage. most american feel that way. it was a collective tragedy. we should be upset who the tragedy is used for partisan purposes, we need a full investigation. i'd like to know if there was encouragement from white house. and also how the security around the capitol collapsed so quickly, this became an out of control riot.
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we have instead is a committee that starts in the partisan way. that has budget the signature -- that has been signature of speaker pelosi tenure, she has directed her efforts toward that small percentage of her own party. not to duty to house as a whole or public or country. we have unfinished business here this committee is not going to finish that business. trey: professor, you have devoted your life to the law. so i would love for you to layout for the viewers the serious investigation maybe one run by the executive branch or an independent commission, then what we have now, i was critical of, congressional investigations while i was in the middle of them. i don't think that serious ones leak, i think they access the information in the witnesses before they claw conclusion. -- draw conclusion, but what
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does a serious investigation look look to contrast with what we seeing now. >> you could have a commission that was selected with input from both parties, but had a broader membership and preliminary. if you have a legislative committee it is t important to have party select their own representatives, it will be become obvious to the public in watching the members if they are not honestly pursuing the truth, you can't control that. but you can do is guarantee both sides of country, which is divided down the midel that respective parties selected who they wanted to be on the committee, most purpose to bring witness -- most important to bring witnesses to produce raw information. not rhetorical moments, but to give us real data. real documents. and what concerned me about the start of this committee, how it wasut framed. it was a very powerful series of
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statements. but most of us are really interested in seeing is real evidence that we can interpret, not to have conclusions given early on in the process. trey: i wish that is what we had in this modern environment. examination and cross-examination, that is the best tool. when every has made up their minds. i love talking with you. you always provide an insight i had not thought of yet, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, trey. trey: senate democrats are advocates for women to register for the draft. >> and jesse waters is with us tonight, ahead on "sunday night in o america." ♪ limu emu & doug ♪
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>> we see how cyber threats, causere damage and disruption in the real world. i can't guarantee this. you are as informed as i am, i think it's more likely we'll end up in a war, a real shooting
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war. with ag major power it will be s a consequence of a cyber breach of great consequence. trey: with cyber-attacks ramping up in u.s., americans are wondering how this impacted their lives, what the president said was sobering, a shooting war is possible over cyber-attacks. retired u.s. army lieutenant lute colonel,congresswoman mill, welcome to you. >> great to be with you. trey: what do you make of the president's remarks on cyber-attacks and possibility of a shooting war? >> i think that there are others that have also come to that conclusion it could lead to that. it means it -- this much more important that we take our cyber security seriously. we enact penalties and sanctions
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on those who hack those that request ransomware and gain money. it is how we respond to that. i think giving a list to putin saying these are companies in u.s. you don't attack is not the way to ensure our cyber security. and that hacking attacks such as that decrease, we need a bold, approach to avoid shooting wars. trey: i think you put your finger on it. if memory serves, russia is alleged to have attacked or interfered with our elections, food supply and energy supply. if that is not enough to trigger a shoot war or a response, what would it take? precisely. if -- if the president believes a major cyber-attack could lead
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to a shoot are war. that means you need to institute policies now. and have a strong stance toward china and russia. although putin said that the russian government was not behind the cyber attacks, we know or we have intelligence informations that indicates in s not much of a endeavor on russian government part to prevent those type of piper attack -- cyber-attacks. the attacks affect local and state governments as well as federal government. we need to have a stronger position, president needs to be strong or that. allowing russia to go forward with the pipeline in the face of having cyber-attacks, maybe a pause on that would have been preferred to send a message to russia that we'll not tolerate
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this. we're concerned these types of actions affecting companies or governments within the united states could lead to more serious ramifications. the best offense is a good defense, we're not in a posture where we're putting forward the best interest of the united states. trey: let meni switch to a topic you are familiar with. if we went to war, should women be drafted into the armed services, this is not a question if women can serve, but the question is whether women should be legally required to register for the draft, senate democrats believe so, they propose legislation, my wife has not told my what my opinion on this is. but you have served, you serve in congress, what is the right response. >> let me say, women are capable
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of serving in the military, i have served with phenomenal women, primarily in the medical field. i enlisted in army and promoted to office rank, it was at tail end of vietnam war, i was not in the vietnam war but i served with those who have. the question is, if you will draft individuals to do that you have to have a selective service registration. should women be required for selective service, then be drafted? i think the first question, what is the purpose of a draft? the purpose is send people into war immediately. that answer that, you need to get mid level commanders, not heads in pentagon, but mid level officers who command. captains, majors, and lieutenant
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colonels, askli them, would they have enough time in an immediate situation. do they have time to train individuals? if they do, or they have the capacity to put individuals where their skill set will allow them to be deployed that does not affect the team or mission, i would take the information that i would get from those individuals, to put that into the determining whether women should register for the draft, without that information i don't think we can determine whether it would be appropriate. but serving in military i have up most regard for the women who serve in military and continue to serve. trey: we're grateful for your service. as you were talking, tulsi gaber served, tammy buck worth and martha mcsally, we're grateful for your service. >> thank you, i appreciate that.
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and i think we -- you know women have tremendous attributes to offer in military service as in all walks of life. we need to make the appropriate decision and information. we have to remember the goal of our military, it is not wokeness, the goal is to protect the homeland. all information on whether or not military, mid level commanders will give you t the better information. the higher ranking enlisted and mid level officers can give you the information, if they think they have the time to train, and deploy troops to places. trey: thank you so much for joining us. >> you are so welcome. trey: coming up, some democrats wanto to abolish i.c.e.
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>> we mustt eliminate funding fr i.c.e. and dhs, they are
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interrupt. -- inept. >> we have to reexamine i.c.e. and the role and think about starting from scratch. >> we should protect families that need our help, that not what i.c.e. is doing today, we should get rid of it. trey: u.s. border patrol agents arel arresting more than 1,000 noncitizen criminals a month, that includes hundreds who have been convicted of impaired driving, sexual assault, burglary and murder. most agree we don't' them in the united states, most, but not all. progressives areus pushing to abolish the very agency responsibility for keeping the element out of the country and enforcing our laws, joining me tonight, director tom homan welcome. >> thank you.
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trey: i know this is basic, our viewers to understand what i.c.e. does and distinguish it from border patrol. >> border patrol is protection of the border, they are assigned to the border to stop illegal flow of drugs, people and contraband. i.c.e. is the interior. -- urge that administration i.c.e. can no longer arrest someone for being in the country illegally. you have to be convicted of a serious aggravated felony, biden administration made illegal immigration no longer illegal. i.c.e. with no longer enforce the law. trey:: if i.c.e. is abolished as
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some progressives want. what would do what i.c.e. does now? >> a good question, i.c.e. also does drugso trafficking investigation, they have investigations for technology like weapons. they cannot be smuggled out of the u.s. they save women from trafficking, saved thousands of children from sex offenders, they do very important work to protect theta community. and on the immigration side, why have an immigration court, why have border patrol, once you arrest someone put them this front of an immigration judge, judge says i order you removed? when will look for them. it is ridiculous. the department of homeland
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security has fema, test guard, terrorist screening center, coast guard, ridiculous for a congresswoman to say i want to abolish homeland security. trey: if i'm keeping score at home, progressives don't want i.c.e., they don't want state and local law enforcement helping with enforcement of immigration. i am struggling to figure out what they want. if you don't want border patrol to stop people from coming into to the country, and you don't want i.c.e. t once they pass the border to help with departtations and the state and -- deportation and the state and local cops can't help. whatnt do they want? >> border patrol saved 7 thousand lives.
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president of united states said the last administration watched children die of starvevation on the banks of rio grande. what worse thing could a commander and chief say to the men and women who put lives to the line for this country of day. i have buried main i.c.e. agents, that is an insult. as far as police officers, i said from day one, you defend a police officer for every dollar you take away from law enforcement that equals lessen force law enforcement. -- they have to respond to dangerous situations, training goes first. every city who defunds police, look at at their crime rate now, the men and women who wear the
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badge and gun are finest 1% this country can get, f they are american patriots. any member of congress to vilify the border patrol and i.c.e. to enforce the laws they enacted. these men and women are protecting this nation. trey: thank you director and thank you for your service. people who wonder why they are having a hard time recruiting people to go into law enforcement. when you have to put up with what cops have to put up with and listen to so-called progressive politicians, like they do, i don't wonder, but thank you. jim: >> thank you for voicing in issue. trey: coming up pressure that comes with every day life, then pressure of being an elite athlete with the whole world watching.
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>> i didn't want to do something silly and get injured. i thought it was best if the girls took over. they should be proud of themselves foror how well they did. having to go in. it has been stressful, as a whole, not having an audience, there are a lot of different variables, it has been a language week, a long olympic process, a language year -- long week, a long olympic process, a long year, we're too stressed out,t, we should be having fun, sometimes that not the case. trey: simone biles is one of the
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greatest gymnasts. she was overwhelming favorite to win multiple golds at the olympics. then she withdrew. because she was struggling with the mental side of her sport, that also impacted the physical side of her sport, critics pounce, do you know what in a have in common? not a single one is named simone biles, not one that i heard is an elite level gymnast. she joins a growing list of athletes who are not afraid to talk about the mental side of competition, here to talk about it now, clinical psychologist dr. gilliland. >> thank you. trey: she is in the sport where a fraction of a second is difference between landing on your feet and neck. why not let her decide whether
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she feels up to it, instead of someone that is sitting on the couch who isn't touch their toes -- who can't touch their toes or see their toes. toes. >> the elite athletes are so in tune with their physical and psychological muscles. like you said, she is hurling her body through space, twisting, spinning landing on her feet, i don't think much if they fallout of their podcasting chair. but they can't relate to what elite athletes go through day in, day out. just to prepare for that single day. what is remarkable is their ability to analyze data, make adjustments, most of the time with her, she is successful. but she did not there.
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analyzed her performance, making adjustments and knew she for whatever reason, just did not have it on that day. mind. you, that goes against everything that elite athletes know and do leading up to it, they always believe they can. what is remarkable she did, she analyzed that and as hard as it was, went against every fiber in her being, she knew the risk personally and to the team. she stepped back. i promise you, every fiber in her being wanted to keep going, but she stepped back for the team, many don't believe they would have won silver if he continued. -- she continued. because she did not have it this day. look who won the gold, her teammate, it is remarkable how elite athletes can adjust to feedback and be honest with themselves and teammates, that
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reall -- cements her role as one of most likely the best ever,. trey: steve sacks, all-star second baseman, not throw the ball from second to first, tiger woods it chipping issues and fieldo goal kickers cannot kick the ball, there is a mental component to sport. there is a mental component. is there not? >> it is. the thing about elite athletes as this level, when you stretch your physical abilities to their absolute maximum. something has to hold it together. when holes the physical abilities together is psychological muscles. it is the glue that holds it all together. don't go to home depot, i have
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looked, it's not in the aisle, you can't buy it. it has to be homemade. it is a little bit different for eachre elite athlete. there are common ingredients. when that glue pulls. it is remarkable, they do it in a monk-like way of life. they have restricted, given up so much they build psychological muscles, we can all do. they build them in a way we can't relate to. trey: dr. gilisland thank you. >> thank you. trey: fromm working in basement to interviewing america to getting his own show and authoring a best selling book,
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trey: i've wondered if we should talk and listen more with one another, not argue, not yell, just talk and listen, jesse watters got his start in television, interviewing folks with whom me might disagree. >> what do you think of the state of the nation. >> i'mow not thinking about that right now in we're pissed off. reporter: what do you think the country is doing.
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>> r a longer discussion. reporter: would youou vote for him.m >> no. reporter: why not. >> i am a republican. reporter: he say republican. >> oh,. >> i don't know this stuff, what year? >> we want to ask you, why you boycotted the inauguration? you said fox news chokes us and lies to us, who is us, what are the lies? trey: joining me now is a former production assistance here at fox news, now host of watter's world, and author of how i saved world. how are you. >> i am great, i forgot how interesting i used to be. >> are still interesting, what did you learn conducting these
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conversations on the street. >> i learned i was in the bubble. i learned that most people don't really care about what is happening in washington, d.c. they don't have a lot of respect for politicians, they are living theirak lives, takingb kids to school, they really care about a few things, the cost of living. and traffic. and basic things like going out to dinner, dating. and perhaps school. or work. everything el you hear about, the infrastructure bill. you know. those things, people's eyes glaze over they don't care, they understand difference between republicans and democrats to a large, etent. they just want their lives to be easier and cheaper that is it. trey: a good lessen to learn for
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the folks in dc and new york. it strikes me as requiring a lot of self o confidence to write a book on saving the world. and it requires a lot of humility to put what you put on the back of the book, why did you right a book about saving the world? then we'll get to the back, it is amazing. >> i wrote it for the money. because did i need that money. i still don't think i was paid enough, ited went to number one, if i did it over again i would have asked for more. i fell like i got into a place in my life i had the time to do this, i wanted to reflect at 20 years almost at fox, tell the story about news that i covered, adventures i had been on. and what i learned from it and about myself and about the american people. and what was the next question? i forgot. trey: theue stories in the book
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are very funny. you instead of putting endorsements on the back of the book, put a series of insults, one person that said you were shockingly ignorant? i guess that could be a compliment in a way she was surprised you are ignorant. but putin assaults on the back -- you put the insults on the back. >> i didn't want to have to go to hannity on my knees asking for a blurb . we slapped hate mail on the back, soledad o'brien believes i am shockingly ignorant. i thought that was amusing. brought me down to earth, that is, you know i need that. trey: look, it is a so. is a compliment she was shocked, you are not
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ignorant.gnore >> you the most compelling part is you started well as low as you can here at fox news, now are you host, co-host of popular shows, you get to sit next to dana perino, now you have two shows. how did that happen? >> i think itnk was a lot of lu. i was in right place at the right time. i was told do things. trey gowdy, obedience was important. whenever anyone told me to do something, i did it right away, as hard as i could. i did that for about 15 years, now i get to sit next to dana perino. i made it in my book. trey: in our books you made it.
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speaking of a books, your book made mee laugh. the inside and the back. this mixture of self awareness and humility we could use more of that. congratulations on having a number one "new york times" best selling book, in addition to all other things you have accomplished. >> thank you, and thank you for that greatat podcast we did together. i am jealous, the trey gowdy graphics package, better than water -- "watters' world" how did that happen? >> i think they fell i needed it more. your content is so good, they have to dress me up. >> stop, thank you, you are the best. trey: thank you. >> jesse. >> thank you for spending part of your sunday with us, have a great week ahead, good night from southth carolina, "life, liberty and levin" is up next.
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