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with neil cavuto in just a moment as we continue to see these briefings coming out of the pentagon, the white house and from anthony blinken who we heard from today for the first time taking questions. our coverage continues here at fox. we'll see you back here tomorrow. >> neil: all right. we're monitoring this pentagon briefing as crowds continue outside the kabul airport. the reason why we're paying attention what's coming out of the pentagon, cia troops have conducted missions outside the kabul airport to get americans outside of the country. this is complicated by the draw down of u.s. troops in the country. what started out as 6,000 of them, now down to around 5,500.
hundreds more leaving daily. could make it difficult to get people that are trapped outside of the kabul air and wanted american help. what is interesting to know and why we're going to go to this pentagon briefing, in each and every cases of these rescues outside the perimeter, the taliban has done nothing to disrupt the efforts or to interfere at all. that's raising concerns at the same time hope that there could be more of these missions to get more americans out. before i go to john kirby, another development that you heard in the last hour, this notion that we might have all of 4500 americans left there. that's hard to quantify and seems like a guess. but if that is correct, it does sort of dispute the other numbers that we've seen. furthermore, records that there's 1,500 that might remain
and many that might not want to go we'll explore that in more detail and try to understand how that could possibly be. meantime, let's go to the briefing. >> we'll make the right plans to do that. by and large, most of these installations, they're using organic capabilities. i'll let northcom take your question about that. i don't have that information readily available. i'll be getting the general in the briefing room later this week. >> what about aircraft? >> we don't plan to extend beyond level 1 which the secretary authorized. >> could it be done on getting air evacuations outside of kabul and extractions. why haven't they been done yet? we know of american citizens outside kabul.
>> it's a capability question. i'm not suggesting that would be well-outside of kabul. i'm not suggesting it would not be throughout the countryside. >> i've spoken to a few families on the bases. they want to know what they can do to assist. i'm not sure what advice is being given and what advice can be given to help those coming to stay on bases is. there any briefing for those families, what they can do to help out as well? >> i'd be more -- we're not surprised that people want to be generous and help that is terrific. we saw reports that the commanding general at fort bliss, they were being inundated from the local community about trying to help. there's various organizations and ngos that are helping these afghans relocate. i would recommend reaching out to those aid organizations and seeing what is most needed for
these men and women and their children. what we're doing to do when we get them on the bases is make sure that they have safe, security housing, plenty of sustenance, food, water, medical care and the ability to work through the rest of their process. so our focus is on making sure that they're safe and secure and that -- we'll do that to the maximum capability that we can and we certainly encourage americans to welcome them as well when they relocate from our military bases into american society, when we're -- that's one of the great things about our country. the way we have welcomed immigrants over the years. these are going to be new immigrants. new americans. maybe a new fighter pilot. so we're grateful for that generosity and i point them to the nongovernmental organizations and humanitarian relief organizations.
>> there's a report out by relatives of americans in sharif saying the woman has had permission to leave that base to go to kabul to leave. would that fall -- would helping that american citizen who has gotten permission on their own from the taliban to get from sharif to kabul, would that be in this sweet of capabilities that the pentagon has? >> no. i'm glad i got a chance to follow up. when i said outside kabul, i'm talking about relatively close by. i don't want to set the expectations that we're going to be able to fly all over the country to pick up people. you heard the secretary himself say that there's a limit to the capability that we have here. when we can help and if we need rotary wing aircraft to help, we'll do it. we'll talk about it to you. i won't give you detail of every
mission that has flown. we've done three and they're successful but a short duration and a short distance. i was glad for the chance to clarify that. >> why is that distance not far? >> we're brought in to protect the airport. >> can we get numbers about how many evacuees are in america now? >> how many evacuees are in -- >> in america. >> i'll get back to you on that i don't have that data. it changes every day. there's flights flying in to dulles. i'll see if we can get it for you. i'll take the question. all right. thanks. we'll see you tomorrow. i'm planning on two briefings tomorrow. we'll start at 10:30 and another
one in the afternoon. >> neil: wanted to bring you up to date here on this update. we had general walters. one of the things that stood out and been a back and forth, exactly how many americans are we talking about? how many americans are still in afghanistan? we got closer to a number when we heard that 4,500 americans have already left the country since august 14. there's around 1,500 still in the country. these were the first hard numbers that we got from secretary of state anthony blinken. furthermore, there's indications that some of those 1,500, they might not all want to leave. that many in the past have not responded for response or to the urgency of the moment when the
government was beginning to look questionable and it might topple. but it seems like an argument here because some of those americans didn't respond or file the proper paperwork to get out of the country, they like the government itself, notably the white house, was not prepared for the collapse of the government. again, so, so quickly. if we're down to 1,500 here, you have to get a handle on how we're reaching out to those 1,500. where they are. kirby mentioned the helicopters rescues, three, including 20 largely americans. in each and every one of the u.s. helicopter rescues where the u.s. troops go outside the perimeter, they've had no interruption and no incidents with the taliban. so begs the question, will this
promote more such activity to get americans and others outside the airport to the airport. there was a limit, i get a sense from the general and john kirby himself especially when we draw down the troops that we have. started with 5,600 and phasing them out hundreds per day. where it all ends next tuesday when the deadline calls for all u.s. personnel to be out of the country entirely. let's get the latest read on this from lucas tomlinson at the pentagon. these numbers and the figures they're using, they seem startling. they're sticking largely to this 1,500 left. is that supported by others that you talked to? >> good afternoon, neil. that's right. there's about up to 1,500 americans still remaining in afghanistan. secretary of state tony blinken
said they're speaking to about 500 of them. the other 1,000 they're not quite sure. they're trying to reach them. secretary of state blinken said he's concerned about the terrorist threat, neil. >> operating in a hostile environment controlled by the taliban with the very real possibility of an isis k attack. we're taking every precaution but this is very high risk. >> isis k being the islamic state in afghanistan. at the airport, the air traffic controllers are around the clock. a race against the president's 31st deadline. 19,000 people were evacuated yesterday. 80,000 since august 14 and including 4,500 americans and 1,500 still need to get out, this video from the 18th airborne corps show 5,000 americans still remain at the airport.
400 troops have departed. there's dozens that include apache gun ships. the attack hell continue earns will be put on transport flights. that's not the case for the $85 billion abandoned. >> last night in the period of darkness, there was a mission to go out and safely evacuate evacuees in kabul. >> outside of the air field? >> yes. and we brought them back to kabul safely. >> sandra: >> moments ago we learned there were no americans rescued on the last helicopter rescue mission. pentagon is refusing to say who was rescued. neil? >> neil: you know, lucas, i'm curious about this isis k. it's a splitter group. they don't get along with the
taliban controlling afghanistan. we know when the president made his decision to stick to the august 31 timeline, he based it on fears from attack from this group. how worrisome is this group not only obviously to ourselves but to the taliban? >> the big concern here, neil, is this isis branch in east afghanistan has been a threat to the u.s. military for years. u.s. special operations forces have launched dozens of missions to keep its leaders over the years. this is an enemy of the taliban. there were times in recent years where the u.s. military would fly drone strikes and kill isis leaders at the behest of the taliban. this is part of negotiations with the taliban. it's a complicated picture. there's a threat and a concern that there's some kind of isis attack from al-quaida that middle -- still maintains a
presence. >> so lucas, the numbers, i'm trying to get a handle on these numbers. we talk about the 4,500 americans that left or have been evacuated since august 14 and presumably 1,500 remain. we know of close to 90,000 in all that have been evacuated from afghanistan that would appear to me to be overwhelmingly afghan nationals, friends of the u.s. government, friends of the former government. do we have a breakdown of those numbers? >> not a complete breakdown, kneel. it also includes nato allies. as you have seen on the ramp at kabul airport, there's nato allies flying their flights, not only getting their people home but afghans that helped with the spanish, the french and the british. >> neil: so when they talk about they've been reaching out for
quite some time to americans in afghanistan, warning them weeks, months ago, how dicey things were looking, they didn't hear back from a lot of them. i don't remember a solid number. but that could be that maybe the government would collapse so quickly and a sin that the administration shared but now unknown whereabouts? they don't know where these people are? they know the number but don't know where they are? >> you'll recall august 7, over a week before kabul fell to the taliban, the u.s. embassy sent out a distress call warning all americans to evacuate the country now. not all of them heeded that warning and remained. the latest numbers -- just last week the white house said over 11,000 americans were still on the ground. that's why for days now here at the pentagon, state department, white house, reporters have been wondering how many americans are left. we finally got closer to that
hans on august 14. there were about 6,000 americans remaining in the country. today about 4,500 of those have been evacuated, which means there's up to 1,500 americans still in afghanistan. not everybody wants to leave. blinken said they have spoken to about 500 americans that still leaves about 1,000 more with the u.s. government. they're trying to reach out. i'm wondering what the plan is. >> neil: i have to wonder and sorry to hit you with all of these questions, but if you're an american in this environment, i want to stay in afghanistan. i can't imagine. but -- >> you wouldn't want to south of kabul. >> neil: exactly. most all of them want out. seems unlikely --
>> an official explained like a hurricane warn. before the taliban arrived, that there would be a ring around kabul and when the country fell, kabul would remain security. so not only afghans and americaning came to kabul to shelter. kabul fell and a lot of americans were caught after guard. just like with the hurricane, the community says evacuate. not everybody does. there's always some person on the roof comes in with a hell continuer and emergency hoists as the water levels are coming up. in this case, it's the taliban and they're killing a lot of people. >> neil: once you see the hurricane, you wish you had gotten out. i can't imagine a single soul with an american passport that says no, i'll stay. it's amazing. lucas, thanks very much. lucas tomlinson following this from the pentagon. how do we get out who americans
are there and other afghan nationals that are there? we have a representative from a nonprofit trying to get people out. james, the numbers not withstanding, i'm wondering how your group finds these people, however many there are. how do you reach them, how do they reach you? >> good afternoon, neil. i'm very proud of our team. we've had very little sleep. we've received thousands of e-mails from afghans just reaching out to us but also on facebook, through what's app, and also u.s. veterans that are getting inundated with requested and pleas from afghan allies trying to get some answers. neil, we have a list of over 1,000 sivs, people that have already been screened. they have their visa in hand. they have not been able to get
in to the gates of the airport. they're in hiding around kabul. it's heart breaking. we're trying to do what we can. one last thing for you, we flew out five families before the fall of the airport. that was the previous week through commercial means. takes about $10,000 to fly a family out. we have a donor here who is as frustrated from the lack of process from the state department. we had visas in happened but never heard back from the embassy so we put people on planes. if the airport stays open, we can continue that process. it's very difficult. >> neil: how do you get to them? let's say they have the papers and afraid to leave from wherever they're hiding and they know the tall again is guarding the airport, how do you get them through that to the airport? >> neil, we're doing the best we
can we're trying to coordinate across other veterans groups with the state department. reallied is the luck of the draw. >> neil: i understand that. you can't give be much away. i appreciate it. you have the taliban standing there. interestingly enough, they've not done anything even with the night rescue missions to disrupt the american missions where they go outside the ring and pick up americans or this particular case afghan nationals. the taliban is not disrupted that. but they are very eagle-eyed towards afghans that want to leave the country, particularly those that want to leave with money. they're so concerned that you can go but your wallet better stay behind. now there's a new element of pressure on americans andafghan nationals, the money factor. >> absolutely. i heard our sanctions on the bank and the taliban accounts are still holding.
so this is a very dynamic situation. we heard of people paying bribes to get through. this is the end result of this decision that it's completely anarchy and chaos. this is not what our allies deserve. we're here to support them. it's very hard and i want to say it feels helpless. i've heard that word used many times by veterans. that said, when the refugees come here, i'm just so humbled by the support that we receive from corporate america like walmart, amazon, just to name a few. the heart of the american people is decent, it's good. we have to get our allies over here. i hope the white house is listening. >> neil: i want to be clear on the numbers. you're saying, i think, we have about 1,500 americans still in
afghanistan. that seems like a very slow number. does that jive with what you're hearing and discovering? >> we're focused on siv holders. these are combat translators that had to go through 3 1/2 years of screening to that point though, we don't know how many interpreters were evacuated out of the 30,000 that ron clain posted on twitter. we have over a lost of 1,000 that have reached out to the airport. we don't know the breakdown of the numbers. >> neil: all right. you're doing lord's work, james. it's a herculean task. you're doing it. thanks very much for updating us on that. just want to bring you up to speed and you're getting a lot of numbers thrown at you here. 19,000 have been evacuated from
afghanistan in the last 24 hours. it involves 90 u.s. military and other international flights to the rate of one plane every 39 minutes. i don't know if it's still maintaining that pace. the argument is at that rate, tens of thousands more could be out of the country certainly by next week, august 31, the deadline. we started out with 6,000 troops. the flip side of this is there's fewer troops now as they draw down to help in this rescue effort. complicated by the fact that now we're down to 5500, 6,000 troops and going down at a rate of a few hundred per day. and colonel mcguinness, what do you make of this? i guess what is sticking in my thick skull here is that the 1,500 americans that supposedly remain, that seems like a low
number. i'm not there. you know it well. does it seem low to you? does it seem about right? >> you know, long ago, neil, i learned not to believe the first report. 1,500 does seem low given all the cataclysmic things we've heard the last two weeks. the state department depends on people registering before -- after they come into a country, telling them where they're going to go. obviously people don't do that. so could be that that number is not terribly reliable. time will tell. >> neil: let me get your sense of what is happening. the pace is picking up as far as evacuating people. we're not the only country saying it's all done on the 31st. turkey is pulling out by that time. canada is doing so. we know of elite german forces, british forces that my stay beyond that to get their people.
of course, without the cover of the united states, i would imagine, that that is an uphill task. what do you make of that? >> clearly things are happening behind the scenes. the turks have left. the germans are soft. the last couple days we've used helicopters to extricate people to the airport. this probably will continue. whether or not it continues past the 31st is very propmatic. where would we launch from? obviously not karzai international. i don't know if the pakistanis would allow that much less the other neighbors, iran, china. so it's incredibly difficult. what we don't take into account is the fact that there are remnants not only of isis k and hakani network and so forth, but
the old afghan government. the vice president is still there. there's an effort in the northern part of afghanistan to start and really ignite a civil war against the taliban. how do we deal with that? we haven't heard that reported the foreign press is talking about that with some vigor. >> neil: there's a business press as well -- fox business, we were pursuing this new order out of the taliban that afghans leaving the country better not be taking any dollars with them. some have said you better not take any money period with you because they've had a cash strain. accounts have been frozen. they have nothing to fall back on here. that's more or less another forceful pressure on people. you leave, you go with the shirt on your back. you can't take any money with you. what did you make of that? >> well, you know, as you know, the banks have been closed. so people are not going to
access any cash that they left there. there's hunger, there's starvation. the taliban doesn't know how to run a country. besides that, as you have indicated, isis k and the old government with some measurable resistance is starting to pressure the taliban. then they have the crisis of all of these nations of trying to get out there. this is cataclysmic, i would argue. this country will be a basket case and a haven of terrorism and cancerous problems the next few years. >> neil: cornell, i'm wondering when i heard john kirby talking about a possible role beyond the 31st to rescue americans or others. it's got to be very unlikely. i know of these helicopter
missions, three of them orchestrated to go beyond the taliban perimeter, to get americans and others out of there. once you're passed the 31st, who would do it, how would it be done, would it even be done? >> you know, we've heard, of course, about the cry a director. we didn't know what he said on monday when he met with the taliban. there's been other negotiations as i understand that have been taking place. even some of what secretary blinken said. so to suggest that there may be activities post 31 august. now, that could be through ngos, could be through other countries. we just don't have any clarity there. clearly there are activities that will continue, but it's going to be under the rubric of the taliban who would appear based on the state department
that they're almost to the point of recognizing the taliban as a legitimate government in spite of the fact that there are still significant remnants to include the vice president of the afghan government now running around in the region and creating havoc and some remnants of what is emerging as a new civil war. >> neil: yeah. this isis k, these are just former talabani. we're out of there, colonel. what do you suggest? >> we're out of there. of course, they're celebrating in beijing and moscow. obviously in tehran. in the past, we have been able to help insurgencies. in this case, we ought to. we should not have sent troops into iraq in 04.
instead, we should have helped the insurgency. we ought to fuel this insurgency because it doesn't help our interests and it does help the people in beijing and people in islamabad and the people in tehran. so there's probably efforts in the joint staff at the pentagon looking at that alternative, something that clearly i think most veterans would support given the unceremonious decision to extricate ourselves from there and leaving so many people in a vulnerable situation. >> neil: thanks, colonel. lieutenant colonel bob mcguinness. thanks for your as much as to this country and helping clarify what's going on the past couple weeks in that country. to that end, i want to go to my next guest and get a sense of the new afghanistan if that's what it appears and it means that the taliban is inheriting a country with rival terrorists
going at their throats. charles is here with us. very good to have you. what are we looking at here? when we leave and hopefully with all americans that want to leigh and that is debatable, what is afghanistan going to look like? >> first off, thanks for having me. this is the question. quite frankly i don't think we have a clear idea yesterday. first off, when afghanistan collapsed so quickly, the initial fear is that we would have a massive humanitarian crisis nationwide. surprisingly, we haven't seen that yet. my fear is that several months down the line when it's very clear that afghanistan under the taliban is bankrupt, being cut off as previous guests have said from the international system by and large, by the world bank and what have you, that i think could set off a very severe
humanitarian crisis. we can swiftly seeing population movements to all of afghanistan's different neighbors. so that is one thing. of course, the terrorism element to me is a particular concern. kind of remarkable that we've pressed rewind 20 years back and placed afghanistan back to where it was before. but with a much more intelligent, better taliban with more international relationships. it's terrifying somewhat considering that they still have the relationship that they had with al-quaida and with a whole number of other groups. you and your previous guests have side, isis in the mix now and they a new dynamic. really this is a recipe for a number of potential nightmares. but from a u.s. and nato perspective, we're going to be watching on from afar with really no meaningful eyes on the
ground as we've had for 20 years and this over-the-horizon air capability that president biden has spoken about so confidently, we don't really have that. so that is my big concern from a security perspective looking forward. >> neil: at times we look at the financial conditions to get and make sense of the political ones. the reason why i mentioned that is these reports that the taliban is frantic, that they have no money. a lot of weapons, a lot of stuff from the united states, the old government but they don't have money. it's so bad that they're ordering afghans leaving the country to not bring dollars with them or money of any sort. very akin to when cuba collapsed and fidel castro came in, like what venezuela had done, the old east germany had done. there's a pattern to this. usually it leaves to desperation
and a lot more violence. what do you see happening? >> well, i think you hit the nail on the head. i don't think really the taliban quite knows what to do economically. there's something to be said nor the fact that perhaps the taliban sort of rapid fire across afghanistan took the taliban itself by surprise. it's been interesting to watch the taliban try to sort of imply the formation or the movement towards forming a sort of new afghan government. what is most surprising is, they have rapidly announced the promotion or the appointment of local figures in positions of leadership. they seem to be struggling to come up with national government. that speaks for a lack of preparedness on their part, which is surprising after they conducted a gorilla insurgency against the united states. so if they have prepared that
little in terms of nationwide governance, god knows how they prepared to manage a nationwide commit amidst the challenges of conflict and terrorism and cut off from the international financial system. as i said, i don't think the taliban is prepared for this. they don't seem to have a great deal of avenues for optimism financially and i think from an interesting perspective, that is probably why we have seen the taliban at least from a leadership level try to are play ball over the past week or so in allowing at least as i say from a leadership level this evacuation to take place. we know on a local level, the taliban has beaten people lining up outside kabul airport and much worse. i don't think, you know, five years ago we could have envisioned the taliban saying to the united states, okay, by all means, we'll secure the roads
and you can evacuate your citizens. they have a certain awareness that they cannot play bad gay too much because they will absolutely seal their severing from the international financial system and seal their fate as a failed government pretty quickly. >> sandra: >> neil: but it could explain -- i'm the one connecting the dots shakily here, so i'll defer to you. you have the taliban leader meeting with our cia director. the taliban says the deadline sticks. we're not changing it. maybe this isis k could be a bigger threat and there's real concerns about that. we have the three u.s. helicopter rescues even though all were at night. the taliban outside that area could have interfered in all of them and did not. now i'm combining that with the
concern about afghans leaving and leaving their money behind that the taliban is trying to present itself. all right. i know you don't like us but there's a group behind us that you'll hate even more. so just be careful. what do you think? >> yeah, absolutely. they're playing hardball and played real hardball when they met with the cia director and insists august 31 remaining the deadline. they need to look firm and standing by their redline. yes, there's a sort of desperation on their behalf. they're trying to sell themselves to the international community as a whole as they change. i don't quite frankly buy it all. i think there's a small part of the taliban's leadership which has learned the lessons of the past 20 years and they know if they're going to rule and sustain their rule, they'll need to be smarter and more flexible than the past.
frankly the taliban is not an organization. it's a movement. it's an alliance of malitia factions. so we have a quite organized political leadership that is engaged in negotiations with the united states and doha and qatar. the reality is keeping that alliance together has been possible because they have that shared enemy, the united states and nato. that's not there anymore. at the moment, they have this immediate of making sure four or five or six months that unifying element won't be there anymore. that's where i worry we'll see chaos unfold. >> neil: incredible, charles. thanks for sticking around to explain the situation. thanks. just to bring you up to date on the numbers before we take a break. getting out of there. the last 24 hour period, 19,000
evacuated, you had a flight leaving every 399s between military planes andcommercial airlines. that came into effect once those folks arrived at calmer destinations. at that rate given the five or so days to go, you main 20,000 evacuations per day, you can get up to 100,000 out of the country. if we're to believe them, 99,000 of them would not be americans. they would be afghan friends and loyalists. that's fine. when you talk about the rush to get people out, the overwhelming majority will not be americaning but afghan nationals. the overwhelming majority we are certain need asylum, need protection but some with slip
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>> how many individuals on terror watch lists have been found? >> i don't know. >> neil: all right. so where are we going from here? congressman petka is here with us. i don't know. a lot going on here. this comes at a time when we're trying to get a more reliable number to the americans left in afghanistan. are you confident with what you're hearing out of the administration? >> no. it's a botch job from the beginning. i don't have any confidence in
what they say at all. i appreciate everybody's concern getting out of the afghanistan. it's tragic. but we have to understand the long-term implications to the united states from a homeland security standpoint. it's profound. >> neil: you know, we do know with a lot of people, tens of thousands are trying to leave, get the heck out, that people are slipping through the cracks. we found the first indication in france where a taliban loyalist got off a plane that landed in paris. how many cases of that like that? >> yes. let's not forget that 5,000 prisoners were released from prison. most of them were high level terrorists, some that were at guantanamo bay bay. wire going back to a pre-9-11 footing in afghanistan.
it's dangerous to the united states. then we have the open borders in the south. 218,000 people crossed the border last year -- last month that we know of. that's not all the got-aways that got into the easy. stands to reason that we'll have that coming into the united states. it's a huge concern even when this administration won't tell us about the number of suspected terrorists that have been caught at the border before afghanistan fell. it's only going to increase. when you say about slipping through the cracks, the southern border is a gigantic vulnerability and will have a lot of problems in the united states. >> neil: i'm more worried for the people that are just flying out of afghanistan. i agree with you. the vast majority are seeking
asylum. but we already heard making a big deal about people having to have paperwork. there were no concerns, just trying to herd people on and get them out. i'm wondering what protections we have or what you know of how we sorted and vetted those people out, if we vetted them at all? >> that's a great question. we have refugees comes in. germany is vetting people. takes a lot people. i remember people had to get vetted. i'm concerned about cutting corners. you're right. we have to do a thorough vetting job and can't rush it. the way this exit from afghanistan has been handled, i don't have a lot of confidence. a lot of people have ben taken out in a rush. we have to slow them down.
make sure before they step foot on american soil they've been vetted. a lot of people helped save american lives in afghanistan. we have the take care of them. we have to make sure that bad guys don't slip through the cracks. >> neil: you mentioned, congressman, there's reports that the taliban has emptied out one prison. whether all of those were taliban sympathizers, we don't know. reminded me of the 70s when cuba emptied out prisons and the overwhelm mag you'rety made their way to this country. we hope the same is not being repeated here. but the taliban is processing that paperwork or we're checking them in outside the perimeter.
so they're the ones in the early stages getting them through the line, right? >> yeah, you're right. you're concerns are legitimate. there's people that slip through the cracks. there's so many opportunities for them to do so. that's the immediate concern. i can't stress enough how our southern border is a long-term major concern givens that we have a foot hold for the taliban now. from there they can do a lot of bad things. they can exploit the southern border. we have too tighten up the southern board. i don't know if this president has the guts to do that. we have to make sure we vet every afghani coming into the united states through the refugee program. >> neil: absolutely. no matter from where you're getting in to the country. congressman, thanks very much. john katko.
a good time to bring up bill melugin in la jolla, texas. now they're trying to say the supreme court -- the supreme court is trying to say continue adjudicating these cases of those trying to get here and keep them in mexico as president trump wanted, not in the united states as joe biden has wanted to do. i'm wondering whether that has changed the dynamics and what you're covering has changed as a result? >> border agents says it will have a big impact here on the border. greg abbott calls the supreme court's decision a make -- major victory for texas. when my grants show up, they won't be just be released into the united states with a notice to appear. they have to go back to mexico and wait over there for their
case to play out here in the u.s. that's what president trump was doing when he was in office. he said it ended catch and release. when president biden took over, he got rid of it. the supreme court says no, you have to bring it back. dhs says -- >> if you take a look at zone video here in this morning as hi grants were being apprehended, how soon will the biden administration actually implement this ruling. there were rumors this would happen. la jolla police said there was a rush on the border with migrants trying to get across last minute. take a listen. >> this weekend was very
chaotic. we had in less than an hour about 200 people or more crossing through our area. we did see a huge spike from friday until yesterday. >> take a look at this photo here. looks like a legitimate border patrol vehicle, right? wrong. it's a total fake. this is bizarre. this is out of border patrol's tucson sector. agents were able to foil a human smuggling plot where the smuggler was able to clone a border patrol vehicle, dress it up and make it look legit. he had a fake border patrol uniform on and ten illegals with him. he was arrested. they were taken into custody. this stuff happens every day, neil. back to you. >> neil: incredible, my friend. bill melugin, thank you in la jolla, texas. want to let you know that pfizer hopes to strike again with an
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>> not just the taliban but other jihadists around the world will see this as an opportunity. >> backing down from threats from isis and al qaeda will invite worse attacks on the united states. >> the taliban, al qaeda, and isis have in the united states in their crosshairs. >> neil: this cascading collapse in afghanistan has castigated the president as
well, a record low approval of 41%, "usa today" echoing what others are saying, it's hurting in almost every other issue. >> we are seeing the numbers, down 47% around our average and his approval rating is now 49%, the first time it's happened where he's been what they call underwater. it's striking down across the board, on the economy, immigration 25%. this is a crisis for biotin not just in terms of afghanistan, in broader terms for what it means in his domestic agenda, and midterm elections, democrats are getting nervous about the trendlines and the question is how low is he going to go, when can you can you stabilize it and cover some ground. we don't kno to those questions yet.
>> neil: it is hurting his leverage as well, though, worrying about where the leaders will come from, climate change and global corporate tax in this country, not $5 trillion human infrastructure plan, you know, he's wounded right now and i'm wondering if he's able to bring the moment. >> he is wounded politically right now and we have a problem, quite frankly, a self-inflicted wound, he promised america during the campaign that we would always tell us the truth, he would level with us, good, bad, or otherwise and he's been telling the american people things that have been contradicted by members of his own administration, a real credibility gap not just on afghanistan but broader, foreign
policy and other issues. once you lose that, that's very tough to read once that credibility is lost. >> neil: i'm just wondering, it might be a strategy to talk as little about this is possible that it reinforces an image criticism some have had that he might really be detached. >> it has raised questions about his competence and mental acuity and all of those things and the administration desperately wants to change the subject. the problem is whether they try to do that, whether it is covid or cybersecurity, it seems, when we are talking about issues, afghanistan and all that matters right now in terms of the media coverage and when americans are focused on so they are unable to really change the subject and try to get on more solid ground politically and it looks like that's going to continue for at
least a week, if not more as we continue to see stories about the approaching deadline, this is not over by any stretch for the biden administration, this crisis. >> neil: it does linger and so to those poll members. the rescue goes on for those still trapped in afghanistan. where it goes and where it will end on the 31st no one knows. >> greg: i'm greg gutfeld with dagen mcdowell, jesse watters, jessica tarlov, and dana perino. caving to the terror groups that do make demands that all u.s. troops to be out in a week trusting that the militants will fully cooperate with ongoing evacuations. >> the completion depends upon the taliban continuing to
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