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[laughter] >> dan: old school. >> richard: collectively these artists have 43 grammys and 22 number one albums on the billboards. >> jesse: i have the number one "new york times" best seller. i don't think they do, richard. >> richard: only you have that jesse. see you back here on monday, have a great weekend, everybody. >> mike: good evening welcome to washington i'm mike emanuel in for bret baier. tonight chaos new england democrats here in the nation's capitol. biden's massive tax and spend being held up tonight not by the republican opposition but by members of his own party who cannot seem to get out of their own way. the president made a late afternoon house call going to the capitol and urging lawmakers to get behind his program. we have fox team coverage. the panel will be along in just a few minutes with their take on the situation. jacqui heinrich at the white house with what the president and his team are doing. good evening, jacqui.
oh, we begin with congressional correspondent chad pergram on the hill tonight. hello, chad. >> hey there, mike. moderate democrats and liberals scwawbled so much that the dispute stymied the house from passing a bipartisan infrastructure package. so president biden went to the capitol to referee the argument. fox has told the president timed lower the temperature among the factions. when he arrived at the capitol, the president joked to house majority leader steny hoyer, quote: permission to come aboard. biden says his agenda is forging ahead slowly. >> it doesn't matter when. it doesn't matter whether it's in six minutes, six days, or six weeks. we're going to get it done. >> progressives blocked a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure package. they want a deal first on the social spending package. >> you all didn't believe me but i kept saying we are not going to have a vote. i kept telling her that we didn't have the votes and i knew she knew that and also let's
just remember the speaker has been a great champion for this agenda. >> but after the meeting liberals conceded they need to bend. >> he was very clear are together he said i support entirely if i thought i could do it right now i would. but, we need to get this reconciliation bill and, you know, it's going to be tough. like we are going to have to come down in our number. >> house speaker nancy pelosi promised a vote thursday on infrastructure but the progressive revolt meant the bill would likely fail. the president told democrats the votes simply weren't there even though the hold-up is in the house over infrastructure, the real problem is in the senate regarding social spending. democrat joe manchin won't spend more than 1.5 trillion. >> will a lot of good in both of them.
>> liberals pushed 3.5 trillion for months. but pelosi wasn't even aware that senate majority leader schumer and manchin signed an agreement over the summer. it said that manchin would not support a bill costing 1.5 trillion. the g.o.p. relished the democratic impasse. >> gridlock that's in the democrat party is for sure the best result. i hope the progressives stand their ground so that nothing happens. that would be the best result. >> there was risk in the meeting for the president going to the capitol and not getting a deal. the democrats' legislative agenda could be more ambitious than their narrow majorities allow. mike? >> mike: chad, federal highway programs expired overnight. what will lawmakers do about that? >> well, those programs were supposed to be part of the infrastructure package. that's why the vote was scheduled for thursday. the house and senate could reauthorize those programs tonight. that relieves pressure to do the infrastructure bill now but that cuts two ways. diminishing the pressure to get this done now.
mike? >> mike: chad pergram leading us off on capitol hill. many thanks. let's get more what the biden team is doing to rally the troops. white house correspondent jacqui heinrich has that tonight. good evening, jacqui. >> good evening, mike. democrats who hoped for a vote on the bipartisan bill tonight left that meeting with the president feeling very disappointed. at one source described as it a moment of the highest expectations and the lowest of results. many looked at his presence on the hill, the president's presence on the hill as an indication there was enough support in his party to take action on the infrastructure bill tonight and pass the first half of his agenda but avery that meeting, these democrats see it as an attempt for the president to mitigate his administration's failure to get that piece across the finish line with progressives holding firm on their demands and that is why he made no requests for a vote tonight. telling house democrats nothing is going to happen until there is a reconciliation agreement on the social spending. >> did the president wait too
long to get seriously involved in these discussions? i mean, this is happening so late that speaker pelosi is giving legislative trick to pretend it's still thursday on the hill to meet her deadline. >> well, jacqui, i would say anyone ever been through a legislative fight before or covered it on the hill knows that the negotiations and the deal-making always hans at the end. >> white house press secretary jen psaki says the president's plan was to make the case for husband fill agenda not litigate the path forward not pick off individual votes after speaker pelosi used the legislative maneuver to stop the passage of time on the congressional calendar so she could extend the window and possibly meet her own deadline. many democrats feel the president failed in his part of the mission now having real impact. >> what message does that send about the democrats' ability to deliver and what kind of impact might that have in the midterms? >> well, i think what's happening right now is there's healthy debate, discussion, and disagreement about the specifics
of the path forward. and that's not a sign of dysfunction. >> the reality? republican votes would not have made up for the progressives who wanted to stop this down. this is the outcome that they wanted and democrats who are not in their camp feel demoralized. mike? >> mike: jacqui heinrich live on the north lawn. thank you very much. let's bring in our panel jason riley "wall street journal" columnist and senior fellow at manhattan institute. harold ford jr. former tennessee congressman and ceo of empowerment and inclusion capital and jonah goldberg editor and chief of the dispatch, gentlemen, welcome. >> good to be here. >> thank you. >> mike: play a clip of the sides of the democratic argument. take a listen. >> a group out on television and out very publicly. >> the bipartisan bill is good. i'm going to vote for it but i'm not going to vote for it yet. >> they are also a group that has conveyed that they want the infrastructure vote, otherwise they are not going to support the reconciliation package. >> we don't have an agreement at 3.5 or 2.1 or 1.5.
let's remember we are at zero until we pass something. >> so what we are trying to do is gather all the views, gather all the voices. >> we are working as hard as we can. no one is giving up. >> figure out what everyone is for and try to get both piece of legislation passed. >> basically said two things. one, sorry. it's not going to be 3.5, maybe 2, 2 instead of 3.5. so he said that and then the other thing he basically said we need to pass both of them. >> so that is congressman cuellar with a readout of the president's face-to-face visit with the house democratic caucus. harold, as a former democratic congressman, do these face-to-face meetings with the president from your own party work? >> they often do. thanks for having me on. i thought the outcome as has been reported by our own report reporting team and what we have heard from members of congress in the room, the white house has to on mystic about this. this is a rocky road to get here. but i would remind all of us this is how most major
legislation is negotiated or completed. we are just happening to see all of this front and center. i think joe manchin's words yesterday that 1.5 trillion was his number and then obviously revealing that he and senator schumer had a deal, i think the fact that there was not an eruption in the house amongst some progressives around that, suggests that there is an openness, there is a willingness to negotiate. and whenever your president and own party comes before you and says this is about us, it's about our country, it's about things moving forward, it has an impact. you heard that from the progressive chair, progressive caucus chairs and co-chairs, rather, who all said, look, we know we will get both of these bills at one time and we are willing to negotiate and compromise. i thought it was a positive. >> among the considerations how involved do you make the president if it doesn't work, then is it his loss? take a listen to some of the frustration about the president's involvement. >> i think the president should be involved. >> we have few of us have seen
the president and in the nine months he has been president. i think he should come to a caucus. >> we are clearly at the late stages of the process here. this is exactly the moment where people put their bottom lines down. they put their best ideas forward. and there is heavy negotiating. and that's exactly what's hang. >> mike: we thought there might be votes last night in the house. it slipped to today. jason, your thoughts at this hour? >> well, i think harold is right. this is part of the process. this is normal the back and forth that we are seeing. i think the white house problem from the begin has been that its ambitions exceed its mandate. joe biden's problem is that he is trying to pass bernie sanders' agenda. and the country elected joe biden, not bernie sanders. and that's fundamentally is his problem. is the country wanted bernie sanders agenda they would have elected him. instead they gave us a 50/50 senate. they increased the number of republicans in the house of representatives. and they wanted some pushback.
i think joe manchin, kyrsten sinema they are doing their party a favor in checking these ambitions. this is what the country voted for. they didn't vote for bernie sanders' agenda. >> mike: jonah, as the hours go by, do the various camps get further dug in or does it, perhaps, lead to some negotiation? >> i think there will be more negotiation. i think they will probably come up with a number that is too high for me and too low for progressives but they will get something across the finish line, i would guess. no one really knows. i want to sort of dissent a little bit from my colleagues here. i agree that this is the process as we have come to know it in the last few years or even decade or so. this is not a normal process. the way you are supposed to pass legislation, go back to schoolhouse rock. is it is supposed to go to committees. committees are supposed to debate. they are supposed to look at facts and hear from witnesses and talk about real problems with real needs and solutions and weigh them and horse trade at that level. instead, what we have is leaders in the house and in the senate often operating in bad faith the
way chuck schumer was, hiding the joe manchin that actually made a number known well long ago, and doing this as sort of delivering a fait accompli like moses with tablets to the caucus and saying this is what you have to vote for. that is not lenels late. that's not what democracy is supposed to look like. that's not how our system is designed. that's what we have gotten accustomed to and i think it's sort of tragic. more broadly i think this has been a terrible leadership by the democrats. i think jason makes a great point here is that they have allowed democratic expectations to get way out ahead of reality both in terms of the votes that they have and the numbers that they are talking about. when bernie sanders says that he is compromised because he originally wanted 6 trillion so now he only wants 3.5 and that is supposed to make him reasonable, that's insane. >> mike: so senator joe manchin has been pretty matter of fact if you want this can agenda you need to are elect more
progressives. he represents a ruby red state. what about that harold? >> look, i don't disagree -- first of all, joe manchin is right. everything that i said i think is consistent with a lot of things that have been said by even jonah. we have moved away from even passing a budget and appropriating money toward a budget. i served in congress for 10 years. we never passed a budget on time. that was 25 years ago. so we have completely gotten away from the process that my dad, when he served in congress some 40 years ago was indeed the case. so i hope we can get back to that but there is no doubt jason is right. if the country had wanted bernie sanders' budget they would have -- democrats would have nominated bernie sanders. not the country. remember, democrats nominated joe biden. it's been democrats even who have rejected particularly black democrats straying from one moment rejected the defund the police moment. have you certain voices in the party and certain voices in the country coming forward with wanting wild spending and wild
policy departures in areas which we shouldn't have. but democrats are speaking. i heard joe biden tonight he said democrats we're going to get something done but it's not going to be that number. we have to stay within our bounds and have to pass something that america will accept. >> mike: so the question is, do they hold to a puritiy test on the progressive side and question of timing. will there be votes this weekend? jason? >> well, you know, no one can predict the future here. i don't know why someone like joe manchin would hold out this long and then cave at the last minute. but, you never know what might happen. but i think he is right on the substance. we have already spent trillions of dollars inflation is a problem that will be saddled on the democrats if they continue with this. and this will do nothing to help real wages and help rising prices. i hope he is sticks to his guns but who knows. >> mike: gentlemen, we will leave it there we will get back to you later in the show. up next the virginia governor's
race could come down to the issue of education. we will tell you why. first, here is what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 4 in dallas as a federal judge hears arguments whether texas can leave in place the most restrictive abortion law in the u.s. a lawsuit filed by the biden administration seeks to land the first legal blow against the law. it prohibits abortions once cardiac activity is detected usually around six weeks. fox 32 in chicago where state troopers are coming from around illinois to be highly visible on area expressways in the wake of 185 highway shootings so far this year. 16 people have been killed. and 85 wounded. patrols will increase in the area by 157% in the evening and overnight hours when criminal activity is at its peak. this is a live look at orlando from fox 35. one of the big stories there tonight, walt disney world celebrates its 50th anniversary. the four park complex is
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traffic stop featuring gabby pete and brian laundrie. body cam video shows petino says laundry hit her and then she hit her first. laundrie says he pushed her away. petino's body was found last month in wyoming. laundrie is the subject of intense manhunt. is he considered a person of interest in her death. he is also wanted on a federal branch fraud charge. a judge in california refused to allow a white supremacist convicted of killing one person and injuring three others in a synagogue shooting two years ago from addressing the court. the judge said he did not want 22-year-old john earnest at the have a political forum. he was given a life sentence
without parole. stocks were up. the dow gained 483. the s&p 500 finished ahead 49.5. nasdaq jumped 118. for the week, the dow lost 1 and a third percentage points. the s&p 500 fell 2 and a fifth. nasdaq was down 3 and a fifth. tonight we continue our coverage of the ---one of the key offyear election races in the country. republican glenn youngkin has made it closer than expected against democrat terry mcauliffe by making education a key issue. correspondent alexandria hough h tonight. >> like other school districts across the country there are parents. >> our school board is out of control. >> lots of them. >> they want their voice to be heard. >> even a few teachers. >> our kids are going to pay the price. >> all concerned with what they see is a government monopoly on what is taught in public schools after saying parents had an important, but not primary role in their kid's teaching,
education secretary miguel cardona had a change of perspective. >> parents are the child's first and most influential teacher and any educational program worth having keeps parents and their voice at the center of the conversation. um, that's -- that's clear. >> it's not so clear though to terry mcauliffe, the democratic candidate for virginia governor. >> i'm not going to let parents come into schools and actually take books out and make their own decisions. i don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach. >> mcauliffe's opponent republican glenn youngkin vows to give parents a say in their childs' education appearing here on "special report" last night. >> if parents want their children to receive a great education and they want to be involved in it, and what we have heard from terry mcauliffe is he doesn't want them involved in it. >> in 2016, mcauliffe vetoed a bill that would have given parent the ability to block sexually explicit books from school libraries. he defended that decision by stating that curriculum decisions should remain with school boards.
and on another dividing issue. a new fox poll reveals that just 27% of virginia voters favor teaching critical race theory in schools. 39% oppose and 32% haven't heard enough. mike? >> mike: alex, thanks very much. the senate has confirmed president biden's embattled nominee to lead the bureau of land management. tracy stone manning linked to ecoterrorism and endorsed population control. the party line vote in the senate was 50 to 45. up next, how china's waging economic warfare against the u.s. first, beyond our borders tonight. a fire in a romanian hospital kills at least 7 covid-19 patients in the icu. officials blame what they call irregularities in the hospital's electrical installation system. it was romaine yaps third deadly hospital fire in less than a year. hundreds of iraqis marched to mark two years since mass antigovernment demonstrations erupted in the iraqi capital and southern provinces. demonstration comes a week
before iraq plans to hold early elections, which had been a key demand of previous protests. japan fully lift its coronavirus state of emergency for the first time in more than six months. bars and restaurants welcomed back customers in tokyo following the easing of restrictions. japan's prime minister thanked the people for their patience and cooperation but asked them to stick to basic antivirus measures. just some of the stories beyond our borders tonight. we'll be right back. ♪
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destruction if they decided to unload in some type of cyber where ware. >> michael beckley says slowing economic growth, diminishing resources, major demographic problems and a weakened international standing china and the u.s. towards confrontation. >> seeing historically that when a rising power starts to hit these kind of head winds, they don't mellow out, they try to batter their way through them through aggressive expansion and internal oppression. >> the biden administration is working it way through a complicated relationship with china, maintaining tariffs. warning of sanctions and admonishing china on human rights. though in other areas the administration is trying to work with beijing as officials are asking china to cut oil elm ports from iran at part of negotiation to provide the 2015 nuclear agreement. >> we have been talking to all of the other countries engaged in this effort, including china about this. >> climate envoy john kerry is also pushing the chinese
government to address carbon emissions and axios reports the administration is letting a prominent chinese tech company avoid punishment for it alleged involvement in the repression of uyghurs in gin on monday trade strategy toward china and whether it will keep tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars of chinese imports. the trump administration implemented those tariffs and president biden has kept them in place. mike? >> mike: rich edson at the state department. thanks a lot. under arrest tonight taken into custody after returning to the country ahead of national elections he calls crucial for georgia. he was convicted in absentia in 2019 on abuse of power charges. he has lived in ukraine in recent years. now to the southern border crisis. in a new emphasis from the biden administration on who it choses to detain and deport. apparently just being an illegal immigrant is no longer enough for arrest and removal.
correspondent jeff paul reports tonight from del rio, texas,. >> when the waters of the rio grande are low, the sun is shining bright, that's when they make their move. troopers clock them as they take their first steps into the river as huge splashes and a helping hand later, these migrants are in the land of the free. >> free, freedom. freedom. that's the word. >> kathy and her group made the journey from cuba leaving everything behind. >> yes. my family, my father, mother, grandpa and my brother. i'm just coming with this. >> just a bag and a few personal items to start a new life in a new country. >> depending on their situation, many of these migrants are handed over to border patrol. loaded up and then processed, often given a notice to appear for a later date in court. then released into the u.s. during the trump administration, agents were able to detain anyone who entered the u.s.
illegally. and while a judge just ruled the biden administration can still expel families due to covid using title 42, under a new directive, the act of migrating itself won't be a focus to arrest or deport. the emphasis will be on those who pose a threat to national security or public safety. but after the last massive migrant surge, border towns like del rio are bracing for what could be up the road. >> del rio is a success story for them. del rio already looks like the point of entrance again. >> however for migrants like tatyana is concerned for who they left behind. >> my heart has pain because they don't have anything like this, food, freedom. nothing. nothing, nothing, nothing. >> mayor here in del rio, texas, says they have information that right now 20 to 50,000 migrants are in mexico looking for a place to cross. some authorities estimate that
number could be as high as 60,000 people and they could arrive anywhere here along the u.s.-mexico border within weeks. mike? >> mike: jeff paul in del rio, texas, thank you very much. several special operations personnel were forced to hide in a california airport hacker last month when a sword wielding man dressed as a ninja attacked them. stars and stripes reports the incident took place at an airfield in the mohave dessert september 18th. police records indicate two military personnel received stitches before returning to duty. a document shared on social media says the attacker fled and was arrested elsewhere. up next, analysis of the current state of the pandemic from a former trump administration expert. bret sit down with former fda chief dr. scott gottlieb. ♪ ♪ living with bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression
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to block mandate. denied teachers and teachings assistants who sought to halt the rule while the litigation continues in lower courts. workers were ordered to be vaccinated by 5:00 p.m. today or face being placed on unpaid leave until september of next year. supreme court justice brett kavanaugh has tested positive for covid-19. the high court says kavanaugh has no symptoms and has been fully vaccinated since january. kavanaugh and all the other justices had a routine controversies case today. drug maker merck says its experimental covid-19 pill reduced hospitalizations and deaths by half in people recently infected with the virus. the company says it will soon ask health officials in the u.s. and around the world authorize its use right now all authorized treatments for the virus require injection or iv. gavin newsom gavin has announced the first coronavirus
vaccination mandate for school children. newsom's plan requires all elementary through high school get the shots once the vaccine gains final approval from the government for different age groups. get more insight for the pandemic bret baier talks with former food and drug commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. >> bret: tonight we talk to the former head of the fda. dr. scott gottlieb. he is the author of the new book "uncontrolled spread" why covid-19 crushed us and how we can defeat the next pandemic. dr. gottlieb, thanks for being with us. >> thanks a lot. >> bret: when is this thing going to be over? do we know? >> yeah, i think this delta wave of infection is the last major wave of infection we are going to see here in the united states. on the back end of it i think we will enter more endemic phase of this illness pervasive and okay miss present not huge surge like we have seen offer the last year and a half.
new mutation partially escape our vaccine and hopefully keep up with it and this will be the last major surge of infection we will have to deal with. >> bret: do you think, knowing what you know, and in this book it goes into a lot of details about the beginning until we are where we are now, that mandates on vaccines are effective? >> can mandates help us achieve higher levels of vaccination and will that make us more impervious to this wave of infections in the answer is yes. there is tradeoff. i think we need to decide how much we are willing to push to get higher levels of vaccination. i think the federal government is well within their right to mandate the federal workforce be vaccinated that's an issue of federal workforce readiness. i think mandating vaccination among healthcare workers makes sense. when you start requiring the mandates on businesses, with 100 or more employees, it's going to take -- it's going to turn something that has been political, this debate around vaccines into something subjectively political and tradeoff for that you will have people harden their positions around vaccination. vaccination is going to now become a political football.
and it's going to erode not just willness to accept this covid vaccine but maybe willingness to accept other vaccines. we need to ask how much we are going to achieve in terms of the incremental number of people who will get vaccinated with a mandate like that. >> bret: you mentioned the political side of it and it is in the book. here is candidate biden and president biden. >> i trust vaccines. i trust scientists. but i don't trust donald trump. the vaccines are safe, highly effective. there's nothing political about them. >> these governors won't help us beat the pandemic. i will use my power as president to get them out of the way. this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. that's why i'm moving forward with vaccination requirements wherever i can. >> >> bret: the bottom line here is that politics has seeped into all of this, right? >> yeah. and i think that's unfortunate. i think these decisions around getting vaccinated aren't just
individual choices although we talk about them as individual choices. your decision to get vaccinated or not dozen impact your community. if you work in a confined space where other people could be exposed to the virus, if you are a healthcare worker, so i think that there is some element of a collective choice made by a community to require vaccination but to the extent that there is a collective element to these decisions they should be made at the lowest -- the local as possible level. by a local community, a local school board, a county. so just as i don't believe governors should step in and say private businesses can't mandate vaccines, if you are a private business and you feel the only way you can protect your workforce or your customers is by requiring vaccination, you should have the ability to do it. just as governors shouldn't say you can't do that i don't think the federal government ought to step in and say you have to. otherwise, we do turn this into a political debate and a political fight. and that is ultimately going to discourage a segment of the population from seeking out vaccination not just for covid but potentially for other infectious diseases as well. you don't want to see a debate around vaccines become a
political debate. >> bret: right, speaking of which the flu vaccine. a lot of the people didn't take the flu vaccine in the past. flu season is coming up. flu cases, historically low. in part the cdc says because of the mitigation efforts and masks and washing hands. but that is a potentially a big deal, right? >> look, if we see declining levels of uptick of the flu vaccine, that's going to be detrimental. we don't know how bad of a flu season we are in for right now. there is some indication there could be another mild flu season. it's very important for people to go out and get the flu vaccine we didn't put any flu immunity in the population last year. a so if we do end up having a brad flu season this year you will have a lot of people who didn't get immunity last year who are going to be especially vulnerable to the virus this year. the vaccine becomes even more important now that we didn't have a bad glu flu season in the prior season. >> bret: all right. the book is "uncontrolled spread" why covid-19 crushed us and how we can defeat the next pandemic.
dr. scott gottlieb, thanks for being here. >> thanks a lot. >> bret: we will send it back to you. >> mike: up next, the panel returns for the friday lightning round with their winners and losers and their take on the border crisis and covid mandates. ♪ >> tired of protecting people who do not want to protect themselves. if i lose my job, then are we going to have a few rough months? probably. ♪ at pnc bank, we believe in the power of taking steps forward. whatever the pace. and whatever the size. that's why we set out to help make it easier for everyone to move forward financially. see how we can make a difference for you at pnc bank.
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♪ ♪ >> the president's vaccination requirements will apply to about 100 million workers. that's two thirds of all workers across the country. >> once the fda approves the vaccination in different cohorts starting with 12 and above grade seven to 12, we will begin to apply that requirement. >> mandates work. they make us safer. i would urge every mayor in america, do it now.
do it now or you will regret it later. we need these mandates to keep us safe. >> we know that if you are vaccinated you can get infected and still transmit. why are we segregating and dividing nations with freedom stomping mandates that makes no sense? >> mike: we are back with our panel jason riley harold ford jr. and jonah goldberg. jonah, do you want to lead us off on the vaccine mandates? >> sure, look, i think some of them are defensible policies particularly imposed at the local level. i think president biden's private employer mandate bad idea, badly constructed. what's interesting to me about all of this is how it is actually creating more problems in the places where thee things are popular. causing worker shortages and no shows in a lot of the blue states. blue cities because there are unintended consequences for because it's a complicated and controversial thing to do and not just for trump voters. >> mike: the california mandate today was gavin saying that he is going to require all students, public school and private school to receive the
vaccination once the feds approve it. it seemed to be something that may be an interesting time before the higher courts. your thoughts on that, jonah? >> look, i think a lot of these things are going to get tested in the courts and we're going to find out that the government has more authority, particularly at the state level to do a lot of these things than a lot of people on the right want them to. but, at the same time, it's going to have a lot of political blow back at the local level from a lot of people who don't like to be bossed and pushed around. >> mike: harold, your thoughts on the vaccine mandates at this point? >> you know, i'm torn a little bit like some, but i'm more in favor of people, of private sector and even at the local level, government level, particularly at the school level, these mandates happening. i have a 7-year-old and a 6-year-old who are not vaccinated yet because they are not eligible. i hope it comes soon and i am going to look at the data and likely get them vaccinated. but to send them to school i have to have 8 or 9 vaccines
already for them. and if i choose not to, they can't go to school. so we already have a regimen like this. a platform like this, i think that some of have allowed this issue to get too politicized. i think when people really step back and understand what we are trying to get accomplished here, and take the politics out. and just look at the science and the medical data behind it, i think they feel far more comfortable getting themselves vaccinated and their kids when that opportunity presents itself. >> mike: okay, gentlemen, let's move onto the crisis at the border. we have all kinds of report of more people making their way for our southern border. take a listen to this clip. >> we have people crossing this border and we have heard numbers of this group up to 20,000 and we have had thousands before this. and we don't even know some countries that they are coming from, not including all of the diseases that are coming with covid and everything else. >> we have been implementing title 42 as it relates to any migrants who have been coming
across the border, no matter what country they are coming from. there's no longer people under the bridge in del rio. >> border patrol is now in their eighth month of a crisis that they don't have any end in sight and you are coming in to contact with thousands of migrants over which we know about 20 to 25% are sick as they come across that border. >> jonah, start us off with the latest from the border. >> yeah. the thing i find most shocking is the department of homeland security under mayorkas issued this new memo yesterday that says starting in november they are not going to prioritize deporting people who are here illegay. and i understand that there is a policy and ideological and political argument about doing all of that but the reason why we have this crisis at the border right now is because of the messaging that came out of the biden campaign and biden white house that sent the false signal that the border was open and then they go before they get control of it, they implement -- they announce this new policy which would sound to me, if i
were thinking about illegally entering the united states, to say, basically, if i can make it past the border, i'm home free. >> mike: harold, your thoughts on the border? >> i think jonah is largely right. look, i think the secretary we have now mr. mayorkas is probably a nice guy. probably a smart guy. but he is not meant for a crisis. they probably need to think about, number one, getting a policy and then number two, someone who can implement that policy. we can't get a pathway to citizenship for people until we get the border straightened out. i'm a believer that democrats should negotiate and build a wall. republicans should negotiate and invest in our hemisphere. hemisphere that is ours that we have not invested in and see if going forward we can help save lives and get things better. >> mike: up against the clock. get to winners and losers. jonah? >> my winner is the acting president of the united states joe manchin who had a terrific week as the most powerful person in washington. my loser is carlos watson and the people at oze media.
a website poised to get $40 million from goldman sachs instead closed down this afternoon because it closed out the digital equivalent of a ponzi scheme. >> mike: all right. harold your thoughts. >> two winners one jimmy carter happy birthday. is he a winner. those who love hip hop we have a great super bowl snoop mike show and dr. dre. my loser is anyone who can't watch sunday night football and watch tom brady go back to england go bucs and go blue. sorry we had technical difficulty with jason. we will get him next time. when we come back, "notable quotables." ♪
i will just keep saying that. that's the theme of the day. >> it's a great day for britney spears. and it's a great day for justice. >> you know me, i'm a bausch optimist. >> grab your wallet. what he is really talking about is raising your taxes. >> the dollar amount as the president has said is zero. >> nancy pelosi could get up there and say 2 plus 2 is. [coughing] >> there is always a chance here on capitol hill. [inaudible] on capitol hill. >> i believe parents should be in charge of the kids' education. >> i don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach. >> i recommended that we maintain 2500 troops in afghanistan. >> why haven't you resigned. >> i'm not going to resign. there's no way. >> the idea that we can just have open borders is something that i think is unsustainable. >> how many have been released into the u.s. >> 10,000 or so, 12,000. >> we don't have open borders. >> all day long, lots and lots of people crossing. there's little sign anything is being done to stop them. >> fox news washington bureau reopens after a major
renovation. >> problem solved, done, easy peasy. finished. let's go have a cocktail. >> all in one week in american politics. monday on "special report," bret will have an exclusive interview with former border patrol chief rodney scott. thanks for watching "special report." i'm mike emanuel. i'm back sunday and monday at 1:00 p.m. eastern. "fox news primetime" hosted by brian kilmeade starts right now. >> brian: all right, mike. enjoy your one day off this week that will be saturday. so get out the tank top and enjoy the sun. >> mike: from a great show. >> brian: thanks so much. good evening, everyone, and welcome to "fox news primetime" i'm brian kilmeade. let me tell you what we have right now on our lineup. mick mulvaney is going to be here and you are about to see them. there he is used to run the white house under trump and checkbook of the country as omv director. then talk to the parents of lieutenant colonel scheller who is in jail and what is going to happen on tuesday when he goes to pre-trial. brian kelly one of the successful duo in the history of country music. brianel